The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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I think Paulie/Nat and Tony/Bananas competed in the same redemption challenge, the eating/drinking one

LoverBox wrote:

I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also assuming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.

I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

Are we gonna see another purge in probably episode 9 or 10? Which would make the final team in the second redemption house Day/Jozae? Unless they were cut after losing an elimination. If thats the case then the teams in the redemption house should be Paulie/Nat, Ct/Veronica, Tori/Derrick, Faith/Angela, & Day/Paulie...with Day/Jozae being the only team to make it back in.

To my understanding the purges where after every redemption, I can be wrong but thats what I heard when it was filming. 

deeper wrote:

LoverBox wrote:I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also assuming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

I thought Zach wasn't allowed to compete in the 3rd one because of his injury from his elimination and was sent home?

I'm guessing that this is when Cory&Devin DQ so two teams are allowed back. Wouldn't Bananas&Tony fit into this puzzle then since they were said to be in two redemptions? 

deeper wrote:

LoverBox wrote:I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also assuming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

 

Brad I'm assuming you meant.

 

So 3rd redemption (where two teams came back) probably involved Kyle/Brad vs. ??? and Kam/Kayleigh vs. Nat/Paulie

and then in 4th Redemption Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad to come back, before being purged at the end. 

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deeper wrote:

LoverBox wrote:I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also assuming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

 Brad I'm assuming you meant. So 3rd redemption (where two teams came back) probably involved Kyle/Brad vs. ??? and Kam/Kayleigh vs. Nat/Paulieand then in 4th Redemption Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad to come back, before being purged at the end. 

I think Bananas/Tony are that missing team. It would make sense if they lost an elimination and then beat Brad/Kyle in redemption. Where it gets messy and where I'm confused is how Cara/Marie being in redemption fits into these scenarios. It seems like they don't fit in anywhere lol. 

I guess maybe they had two teams come back from the 4th Redemption too... and maybe that one was "do or die"? With Cara/Marie and Kam/Kayleigh beating Brad/Kyle and Nelson/Shane and latter two getting eliminated instead of going back to redemption (girl power!). And then Kam/Kayleigh lose the last purge, and Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony.

The only thing this doesn't fit is that Bananas/Tony were said to lose to all 3 types of teams, M/M, M/F, and F/F. Maybe they meant they go against all 3 types of teams? Losing to Kam/Kayleigh, losing to Paulie/Natalie, and beating Brad/Kyle? Just a thought.

natfan42 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:

deeper wrote:
LoverBox wrote:I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also assuming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

 Brad I'm assuming you meant. So 3rd redemption (where two teams came back) probably involved Kyle/Brad vs. ??? and Kam/Kayleigh vs. Nat/Paulieand then in 4th Redemption Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad to come back, before being purged at the end. 

I think Bananas/Tony are that missing team. It would make sense if they lost an elimination and then beat Brad/Kyle in redemption. Where it gets messy and where I'm confused is how Cara/Marie being in redemption fits into these scenarios. It seems like they don't fit in anywhere lol. I guess maybe they had two teams come back from the 4th Redemption too... and maybe that one was "do or die"? With Cara/Marie and Kam/Kayleigh beating Brad/Kyle and Nelson/Shane and latter two getting eliminated instead of going back to redemption (girl power!). And then Kam/Kayleigh lose the last purge, and Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony.The only thing this doesn't fit is that Bananas/Tony were said to lose to all 3 types of teams, M/M, M/F, and F/F. Maybe they meant they go against all 3 types of teams? Losing to Kam/Kayleigh, losing to Paulie/Natalie, and beating Brad/Kyle? Just a thought.

 

ASSUMING

1. 2nd Redemption plays out as the current theory speculations, with Nat/Paulie losing to Jozea/Davone, and CT/V, Tori/Derrick, and Angela/Faith being sent straight home. 

2. Redemption always works the same way, with 1 on 1's, winning team going main house, losing team staying in Redemption, 4th redemption losing teams go home

3. Cara/Marie spent time in Redemption House

4. ppl make somewhat rational Redemption picks. (reason I have Cara in 3rd Redemption is because I don't see Kyle/Brad choosing to go against Bananas/Tony over Jozea/Davonne, but I could be wrong there.)

5.  The previous spoilers about Kam/Kayleigh were true, just with redemption timeline confused.

6. Purge spoilers previously reported are accurate. 

 

I would guess

Kyle/Brad lose 3rd purge

Cara/Marie lose at some point

Amanda/Zach and Jozea/Davone lose at some point. Previously described 3 way elimination. 

Redemption 3: Cara/Marie beat Kyle/Brad, Nat/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh.  Jozea/Davone not picked, and sent home along with Amanda/Zach who can't compete. 

Shane/Nelson lose 4th Purge

Bananas/Tony lose at some point

Redemption 4: Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad, Bananas/Tony beat Shane Nelson. Losing teams go home.

Kam/Kayleigh lose 5th Purge.

Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony. 

No wonder Ashley and Hunter win. They dont compete until the 17th elimination. Shit is dumb. Let me come in 3/4 through the season, whats the point?

No wonder Ashley and Hunter win. They dont compete until the 17th elimination. Shit is dumb. Let me come in 3/4 through the season, whats the point?

It was only 2 weeks late out of the  8 weeks of filming...Natalie/Paulie spend more than 5 weeks chilling and flopping in redemption, its not a fair game.

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Natfan42 Shane said he was never in the redemption house so they couldn’t have lost the 4th purge

Natfan42 Shane said he was never in the redemption house so they couldn’t have lost the 4th purge

then when did he get eliminated? 

Maybe Day/Jozae win the second redemption and are immediately sent back after the third purge? but then again... didn't they supposedly get sent to redemption after going against Cory/Devin ? Imagine how pissed the causal viewers will be after seeing Nat/Paulie get chance after chance, they already complained about them being sent back to the redemption house instead of going home for good.

I'm guessing if Cory/Devin send Day/Jozae to the third redemption then maybe they compete in the eliminatelimination with the water tank? (Seen in trailer)..Pink, didn't you receive tea that Paulie/Nat & Day/Jozae redemption round may have had something to do with eating ? maybe that's for the second redemption

deeper wrote:

natfan42 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:
deeper wrote:
LoverBox wrote:I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also ***uming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

 Brad I'm ***uming you meant. So 3rd redemption (where two teams came back) probably involved Kyle/Brad vs. ??? and Kam/Kayleigh vs. Nat/Paulieand then in 4th Redemption Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad to come back, before being purged at the end. 

I think Bananas/Tony are that missing team. It would make sense if they lost an elimination and then beat Brad/Kyle in redemption. Where it gets messy and where I'm confused is how Cara/Marie being in redemption fits into these scenarios. It seems like they don't fit in anywhere lol. I guess maybe they had two teams come back from the 4th Redemption too... and maybe that one was "do or die"? With Cara/Marie and Kam/Kayleigh beating Brad/Kyle and Nelson/Shane and latter two getting eliminated instead of going back to redemption (girl power!). And then Kam/Kayleigh lose the last purge, and Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony.The only thing this doesn't fit is that Bananas/Tony were said to lose to all 3 types of teams, M/M, M/F, and F/F. Maybe they meant they go against all 3 types of teams? Losing to Kam/Kayleigh, losing to Paulie/Natalie, and beating Brad/Kyle? Just a thought.

 ***UMING1. 2nd Redemption plays out as the current theory speculations, with Nat/Paulie losing to Jozea/Davone, and CT/V, Tori/Derrick, and Angela/Faith being sent straight home. 2. Redemption always works the same way, with 1 on 1's, winning team going main house, losing team staying in Redemption, 4th redemption losing teams go home3. Cara/Marie spent time in Redemption House4. ppl make somewhat rational Redemption picks. (reason I have Cara in 3rd Redemption is because I don't see Kyle/Brad choosing to go against Bananas/Tony over Jozea/Davonne, but I could be wrong there.)5.  The previous spoilers about Kam/Kayleigh were true, just with redemption timeline confused.6. Purge spoilers previously reported are accurate.  I would guessKyle/Brad lose 3rd purgeCara/Marie lose at some pointAmanda/Zach and Jozea/Davone lose at some point. Previously described 3 way elimination. Redemption 3: Cara/Marie beat Kyle/Brad, Nat/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh.  Jozea/Davone not picked, and sent home along with Amanda/Zach who can't compete. Shane/Nelson lose 4th PurgeBananas/Tony lose at some pointRedemption 4: Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad, Bananas/Tony beat Shane Nelson. Losing teams go home.Kam/Kayleigh lose 5th Purge.Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony. 

I felt like I just did trigonometry.

My dumb *** out here still trying to solve for X.

deeper wrote:

natfan42 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:
deeper wrote:
LoverBox wrote:I wonder was the last team to enter the third redemption house..

Who do we know so far? Day&Jozea and Amanda&Zach go home for sure on that one. And Natalie&Paulie win their way back in finally... and I think Kam&Kayleigh lose against them?So I'm also assuming Kam&Kayleigh pulled it and chose them, because if Natalie&Paulie pulled it they'd probably choose Day&Jozea again.

If I remember correctly Kyle and Zach 100% were in the third and fourt redemption.I am pretty sure they dont win their way back to the house and are stuck there for the fourt one. The third is where it start getting messy.

 Brad I'm assuming you meant. So 3rd redemption (where two teams came back) probably involved Kyle/Brad vs. ??? and Kam/Kayleigh vs. Nat/Paulieand then in 4th Redemption Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad to come back, before being purged at the end. 

I think Bananas/Tony are that missing team. It would make sense if they lost an elimination and then beat Brad/Kyle in redemption. Where it gets messy and where I'm confused is how Cara/Marie being in redemption fits into these scenarios. It seems like they don't fit in anywhere lol. I guess maybe they had two teams come back from the 4th Redemption too... and maybe that one was "do or die"? With Cara/Marie and Kam/Kayleigh beating Brad/Kyle and Nelson/Shane and latter two getting eliminated instead of going back to redemption (girl power!). And then Kam/Kayleigh lose the last purge, and Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony.The only thing this doesn't fit is that Bananas/Tony were said to lose to all 3 types of teams, M/M, M/F, and F/F. Maybe they meant they go against all 3 types of teams? Losing to Kam/Kayleigh, losing to Paulie/Natalie, and beating Brad/Kyle? Just a thought.

 ASSUMING1. 2nd Redemption plays out as the current theory speculations, with Nat/Paulie losing to Jozea/Davone, and CT/V, Tori/Derrick, and Angela/Faith being sent straight home. 2. Redemption always works the same way, with 1 on 1's, winning team going main house, losing team staying in Redemption, 4th redemption losing teams go home3. Cara/Marie spent time in Redemption House4. ppl make somewhat rational Redemption picks. (reason I have Cara in 3rd Redemption is because I don't see Kyle/Brad choosing to go against Bananas/Tony over Jozea/Davonne, but I could be wrong there.)5.  The previous spoilers about Kam/Kayleigh were true, just with redemption timeline confused.6. Purge spoilers previously reported are accurate.  I would guessKyle/Brad lose 3rd purgeCara/Marie lose at some pointAmanda/Zach and Jozea/Davone lose at some point. Previously described 3 way elimination. Redemption 3: Cara/Marie beat Kyle/Brad, Nat/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh.  Jozea/Davone not picked, and sent home along with Amanda/Zach who can't compete. Shane/Nelson lose 4th PurgeBananas/Tony lose at some pointRedemption 4: Kam/Kayleigh beat Kyle/Brad, Bananas/Tony beat Shane Nelson. Losing teams go home.Kam/Kayleigh lose 5th Purge.Natalie/Paulie beat Bananas/Tony. 

If Cara and Marie beat Kyle and Brad I will be beyond pleased! But I do think that Kam and Kayleigh beat Nat and Paulie again. The reason why is that Kayleigh said after the first win and people complaining about the unfair comp how will they explain it in the future. I do think Kam and Kailah beat them again which would be super funny and awesome.

Kam and Kayleigh beat other teams, which I think explains Kayleigh's comment. 

btw, not sure what rules the Green Team/Blue team follow, but I'm just going to go with whoever messages me first each time. Formation123 was the first one who messaged me this time. 

No worries! If everyone else could vote blue team tho I appreciate ya Smile

was there ever a time where Da/Jozea and Nat/Paulie were in the main house together at any point?

What's the general opinion of this season?  I think we're lacking competition but at least the newbies seem to be trying. Hate the purge and how redemption is set up

What's the general opinion of this season?  I think we're lacking competition but at least the newbies seem to be trying. Hate the purge and how redemption is set up

Too many twists and too much drama so far. I generally think redemption houses are bullshit, especially when you have Paulie&Natalie still there when they've lost twice, and going to lose 3 times. I LOVE the voting process however. Finally there's some room for strategy and I love that the team put in gets to choose their opponent. I actually have liked the challenges, but so far they're more tailored to M/M teams. Mixed gender teams should never be a thing.

In general, I think this would be the perfect season if they just had everyone come at the same time (no mercenaries), no redemption house, and M/F teams.

was there ever a time where Da/Jozea and Nat/Paulie were in the main house together at any point?

No, Day & Jozae were supposedly eliminated during the third redemption round. Paulie & Nat were still in the redemption house during that timetime, so if the timeline is correct then they didn't make it to the main house until Day/Jozae were OFFICIALLY eliminated.

kvm1977 wrote:

What's the general opinion of this season?  I think we're lacking competition but at least the newbies seem to be trying. Hate the purge and how redemption is set up

Too many twists and too much drama so far. I generally think redemption houses are bullshit, especially when you have Paulie&Natalie still there when they've lost twice, and going to lose 3 times. I LOVE the voting process however. Finally there's some room for strategy and I love that the team put in gets to choose their opponent. I actually have liked the challenges, but so far they're more tailored to M/M teams. Mixed gender teams should never be a thing.In general, I think this would be the perfect season if they just had everyone come at the same time (no mercenaries), no redemption house, and M/F teams.

This season would have A+ potential with better editing. Real drama related to the game and not Kyle/Cara on rinse and repeat. And John and Angela's fake relationship. And why should I care about ****** CT ranking the teams in the redemption house? V's reaction to that scene summed up mine to this entire trilogy. I just don't give a shit about most of these people's storylines anymore. At least the ones they choose to air.

I get why the Cara/Kyle/Faith storyline exists, it's for the casuals. However they have dragged the shit out of it and I'm worried that this season is gonna be remembered as the Cara/Kyle relationship one. They're building it up for a possible exes pair in the future which is so annoying

I get why the Cara/Kyle/Faith storyline exists, it's for the casuals. However they have dragged the shit out of it and I'm worried that this season is gonna be remembered as the Cara/Kyle relationship one. They're building it up for a possible exes pair in the future which is so annoying

im getting way too many ex’s vibes and I pray it isn’t the case, the cast list that pops in my head is disgusting 

The thing is, Kyle/Cara has been relevant to the game even though its annoying and still eating up too much screen time. 

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