The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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I can careless about Johnny but werent you guys crying about production using an equalizer for kam even though it came down to the puzzle that Natalie couldnt solved because she is terrible under pressure...

I am expecting the same energy when people start arguing that Natalie benefited from production "equalizers" and "Rigged" it for her team. 

Btw Its funny how after this double cross it goes by the order of who got there first.

PinkRose wrote:

I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. It will be fun to watch because we know who doesnt get pick on the double cross, but not that matchups or the team that stayed in the game via redemptions.

therealemmalyn wrote:

PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

I can careless about Johnny but werent you guys crying about production using an equalizer for kam even though it came down to the puzzle that Natalie couldnt solved because she is terrible under pressure...I am expecting the same energy when people start arguing that Natalie benefited from production "equalizers" and "Rigged" it for her team. Btw Its funny how after this double cross it goes by the order of who got there first.

I think Jemmye was tweeting that her and Jenna were pissed that the Big Brother people got to chose first back to back and she was supposedly cursing out production. 

PinkRose wrote:

therealemmalyn wrote:

PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Angelica is still mad about Kam for somehing lol

There is a reason why after the first redemption I l didnt update the lock thread because I started hearing a bunch of messy crap. 

I can careless about Johnny but werent you guys crying about production using an equalizer for kam even though it came down to the puzzle that Natalie couldnt solved because she is terrible under pressure...I am expecting the same energy when people start arguing that Natalie benefited from production "equalizers" and "Rigged" it for her team. Btw Its funny how after this double cross it goes by the order of who got there first.

I think it was Day who said after this one they changed how the double cross order was picked? Sucks for the 4 eliminated, but not sad to see them go.

PinkRose wrote:

therealemmalyn wrote:

PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Yea based on what we heard I'm pretty sure it's Kam/Kayleigh in that last 2nd redemption spot and not Day/Jozea. Lmao if Natalie/Paulie lost 3 times in a row though jesus

I can careless about Johnny but werent you guys crying about production using an equalizer for kam even though it came down to the puzzle that Natalie couldnt solved because she is terrible under pressure...I am expecting the same energy when people start arguing that Natalie benefited from production "equalizers" and "Rigged" it for her team. Btw Its funny how after this double cross it goes by the order of who got there first.

They won't have the same energy. They'll claim you're spreading fake tea to save face. Same old tired routine.

I can careless about Johnny but werent you guys crying about production using an equalizer for kam even though it came down to the puzzle that Natalie couldnt solved because she is terrible under pressure...I am expecting the same energy when people start arguing that Natalie benefited from production "equalizers" and "Rigged" it for her team. Btw Its funny how after this double cross it goes by the order of who got there first.

never claimed it was rigged against them either. a win's a win. a loss is a loss. 

Do we know that Angela/Faith were def eliminated by Ash/Hunter? On that insta live, Kam was pointing at Natalie and saying basically "she wasn't this butt hurt when I eliminated her",  implying she had ALSO eliminated Angela, which fit with the previous possible spoiler of Kam eliminating her via double cross, but would also fit with Kam eliminating her in an actual elimination. Or maybe just that Kam was one of the votes to send her in? 

Convenient that the B.B. teams benefit from the pulling order on the first two. I get it though, production wants ratings and they’re trying to garner more fans with people like the B.B. teams being added. They probably paid way too much for some of those B.B. players to even be there tbh

pandawho wrote:

PinkRose wrote:

therealemmalyn wrote:
PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Yea based on what we heard I'm pretty sure it's Kam/Kayleigh in that last 2nd redemption spot and not Day/Jozea. Lmao if Natalie/Paulie lost 3 times in a row though jesus

Day/Flopzea are shown on a trailer when Natalie gets the double cross and no the first double cross wasnt film two times.

Tbh- Flopzea/Day would be all butt hurt still if their closest ally didnt pick them for the double cross. I dont think that scene is from the third double cross.

That rule definitely gives the guy/guy teams an advantage but also stops it from being too big of a disadvantage to the girl/girl teams. Cant expect any better with this stupid random gender format.

Convenient that the B.B. teams benefit from the pulling order on the first two. I get it though, production wants ratings and they’re trying to garner more fans with people like the B.B. teams being added. They probably paid way too much for some of those B.B. players to even be there tbh

BB hasnt contribute much on ratings the numbers have stay the same after their addition.

Realistically They would want Paulie to come back over the drama he was already creating. Jem/Jenna werent going to bring much and they already got what they wanted from Chuck/Britni in redemption. I am not complaining because for a reality tv Paulie is bettwr than the ppl that went home.

deeper wrote:

pandawho wrote:

PinkRose wrote:
therealemmalyn wrote:
PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Yea based on what we heard I'm pretty sure it's Kam/Kayleigh in that last 2nd redemption spot and not Day/Jozea. Lmao if Natalie/Paulie lost 3 times in a row though jesus

Day/Flopzea are shown on a trailer when Natalie gets the double cross and no the firs double cross wasnt film two times.Tbh- Flopzea/Day would be all butt hurt still if their closest ally didnt pick them for the double cross. I dont think that scene is from the third double cross.

If more than one team does come back from the third redemption, maybe the double cross rules are different? In that case, the double cross puller probably decides the matchups for the 4 teams there. Not sure why Momma Day would be so excited though.

PinkRose wrote:

deeper wrote:

pandawho wrote:
PinkRose wrote:
therealemmalyn wrote:
PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Yea based on what we heard I'm pretty sure it's Kam/Kayleigh in that last 2nd redemption spot and not Day/Jozea. Lmao if Natalie/Paulie lost 3 times in a row though jesus

Day/Flopzea are shown on a trailer when Natalie gets the double cross and no the firs double cross wasnt film two times.Tbh- Flopzea/Day would be all butt hurt still if their closest ally didnt pick them for the double cross. I dont think that scene is from the third double cross.

If more than one team does come back from the third redemption, maybe the double cross rules are different? In that case, the double cross puller probably decides the matchups for the 4 teams there. Not sure why Momma Day would be so excited though.

I still think thats for the second double cross 

InterFan wrote:

PinkRose wrote:

deeper wrote:
pandawho wrote:
PinkRose wrote:
therealemmalyn wrote:
PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Yea based on what we heard I'm pretty sure it's Kam/Kayleigh in that last 2nd redemption spot and not Day/Jozea. Lmao if Natalie/Paulie lost 3 times in a row though jesus

Day/Flopzea are shown on a trailer when Natalie gets the double cross and no the firs double cross wasnt film two times.Tbh- Flopzea/Day would be all butt hurt still if their closest ally didnt pick them for the double cross. I dont think that scene is from the third double cross.

If more than one team does come back from the third redemption, maybe the double cross rules are different? In that case, the double cross puller probably decides the matchups for the 4 teams there. Not sure why Momma Day would be so excited though.

I still think thats for the second double cross 

But Kam also said she sent Angela home who was in the 2nd redemption. I guess she couldve meant that she voted her in to elimination but it seems less likely.

PinkRose wrote:

InterFan wrote:

PinkRose wrote:
deeper wrote:
pandawho wrote:
PinkRose wrote:
therealemmalyn wrote:
PinkRose wrote:I am assumming Day and Jozea end on the second redemption.

I honestly don't think it makes sense for Da'Vonne and Jozea to be in the second redemptionWe already know that Natalie/Paulie, Tori/Derrick, CT/V, Angela/Faith, and apparently Kam/Kayleigh are there. And we know only one team comes back. I think Natalie/Paulie pull the double cross again, picked Kam and Kayleigh, and once again lose to K/K, staying in redemption until they end up winning the 3rd one.

I am thinking that maybe k/k werent there until the 3rd or 4th redemption. 

I thought Johnny was mad at Kayleigh because of the Angela thing?

Yea based on what we heard I'm pretty sure it's Kam/Kayleigh in that last 2nd redemption spot and not Day/Jozea. Lmao if Natalie/Paulie lost 3 times in a row though jesus

Day/Flopzea are shown on a trailer when Natalie gets the double cross and no the firs double cross wasnt film two times.Tbh- Flopzea/Day would be all butt hurt still if their closest ally didnt pick them for the double cross. I dont think that scene is from the third double cross.

If more than one team does come back from the third redemption, maybe the double cross rules are different? In that case, the double cross puller probably decides the matchups for the 4 teams there. Not sure why Momma Day would be so excited though.

I still think thats for the second double cross 

But Kam also said she sent Angela home who was in the 2nd redemption. I guess she couldve meant that she voted her in to elimination but it seems less likely.

We will see

PinkRose wrote:

I can careless about Johnny but werent you guys crying about production using an equalizer for kam even though it came down to the puzzle that Natalie couldnt solved because she is terrible under pressure...I am expecting the same energy when people start arguing that Natalie benefited from production "equalizers" and "Rigged" it for her team. Btw Its funny how after this double cross it goes by the order of who got there first.

never claimed it was rigged against them either. a win's a win. a loss is a loss. 

Atleast they were not pushed like Queen Helen Kim was.

If the first and second redemptions were the same result, that could maybe explain some of the confusion. 

the possible spoiler that Kam picked Nat/Paulie (in what I guess would be the 3rd Redemption) seems weird though, cuz even though they'd been sucking at eliminations, there's still a pretty deep hatred there, and I'd think they'd rather just send Nat/Paulie home. Is it possible the 3rd Redemption was Cara/Marie vs. Nat/Paulie and Kam/Kayleigh against whoever the 4th team to survive was (Kyle/Brad?)

PlayerReady also mentioned that Bananas was in redemption multiple times, but then at some point they were in the main house when Cory headbutted Tony? very confusing. 

Yeah playerready said that Tony and Bananas were in redemption twice and Nat/Paulie were in there 3 times.

Ashley spilling tea about Cara and Day #Fake

Shit Queen Day murdered Queen Ashley. Its so hard having so many faves Sad

"Go raise your pig"

Okay I choked

Crazy how beefs like this start because someone likes a tweet lol 

Crazy how beefs like this start because someone likes a tweet lol 

Damn..I forgot how many stands/fans Day has on twitter lol.  I like Ashley but Day NOT the one.

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