The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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Ceej3 wrote:

natfan42 wrote:

Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny really, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

different time, different relationships. He's known Bananas a lot longer at this point.  Still probably dumb, but that's probably the reason. But, it must've been a tie vote right? or they were the deciding vote? How the numbers so close? I thought the Lavender's had a pretty decisive advantage at that point. 

Yeah it was said they had to break a tie. But you know how votes go there's always flip floppers and burn votes. 

natfan42 wrote:

Undisclosed Desires wrote:

SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny really, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

THIS! and I don't understand Zach, he is usually a smart player who plays for himself. I firmly believe that if brad or joss were going into that elimination on Vendettas, he would've voted in John. Plus why wouldn't you take a shot at a strong all male team every chance you get?

Well that's if John was the choice that sent them home.

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny really, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny really, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny really, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

Maybe Cara is the one who's jealous because the Lavender Ladies always win

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny re, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

They got washed the first 4 eliminations. Only two of them made the final and if I'm Zach I don't like those odds at all.

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny re, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

They got washed the first 4 eliminations. Only two of them made the final and if I'm Zach I don't like those odds at all.

I'm confused, so he had a better chance at making the final let alone winning going agaisnt Kyle/Brad & Tony/Johnny?

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny re, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

They got washed the first 4 eliminations. Only two of them made the final and if I'm Zach I don't like those odds at all.

I'm confused, so he had a better chance at making the final let alone winning going agaisnt Kyle/Brad & Tony/Johnny?

On paper this group has better odds of making the final together

At the end of the day Lavender Ladies took 1st and 2nd and that's all that matters.

At the end of the day Lavender Ladies took 1st and 2nd and that's all that matters.

At the end of the day Lavender Ladies took 1st and 2nd and that's all that matters.

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny re, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

They got washed the first 4 eliminations. Only two of them made the final and if I'm Zach I don't like those odds at all.

I'm confused, so he had a better chance at making the final let alone winning going agaisnt Kyle/Brad & Tony/Johnny?

On paper this group has better odds of making the final together

Which is true and on paper. They would more than likely beat Amanda/Zach in the final as well. So why not try to get them out?

Yeezus wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
Yeezus wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
natfan42 wrote:
Undisclosed Desires wrote:
SkinnyLegend wrote:It's funny re, when Amanda risks her game for her friends, it's "wow she's so loyal" no she's dumb because Ashley wouldn't do the same for her clearly when she even ****** over Sylvia. Amanda is legit just a prop for Ashley and of course Sylvia wouldn't get mad, she's the follower of the group. 

I'm not agree on that...Why we don't blame Zach for that? Maybe he should agree with his partner for the first time and it would be better for both of them?  I mean if she wants to vote against Bananas team or Paulie/Natalie why do not you do that? He easily voted against Bananas last season, he had arguiment with Paulie on this season..so..

he actually didn't. Tony and Kailah did. Zach voted against Nelson.  

I was about to say this. But Zach has in the past went agaisn't Johnny. He voted him into elimination on Free Agents and worked agaisnt him in Exes 2. So I don't get why he couldn't do it again. 

Look at the people he worked with on those seasons and look at his options on this season lol

It was said by this point in the game the LL/Young Bucks had the numbers and ran the game. So why not work with them? 

Different relationships, different competitors, and a different format. The Challenge has always been more complex than who has the numbers. We saw what happened on Invasion when this same group had numbers. 

Yeah one of them won. 

They got washed the first 4 eliminations. Only two of them made the final and if I'm Zach I don't like those odds at all.

I'm confused, so he had a better chance at making the final let alone winning going agaisnt Kyle/Brad & Tony/Johnny?

On paper this group has better odds of making the final together

Which is true and on paper. They would more than likely beat Amanda/Zach in the final as well. So why not try to get them out?

Because you don't make the final at all without them.

At the end of the day Lavender Ladies took 1st and 2nd and that's all that matters.

so lock thread?

KChallenge10 wrote:

At the end of the day Lavender Ladies took 1st and 2nd and that's all that matters.

so lock thread?

im down

Over Half the posts in this 699 page thread are about Cara vs. someone. Yeesh.

Amanda saved Ashley only for her to screw over Sylvia. Ashley's manipulation skills is underrated! 

Its confirmed that the premiere won't be 90 mins or 2 hours :/ why they been discontinuing doing that smh

Zach pissed me off so much in their interview..Why does every girl have to be thanking god to have you as a partner? Zach is dumb as ******* rocks he should be happy he has someone who is really smart and pick up where he is lacking. He is such a piece of shit.

I can't believe the facebook comments were all supporting Zach and not Amanda...Did people forget how Zach treated Jonna??? Like wtf. And Didn't Amanda prove she wasn't bad when she was the one right about Camila all damn long? I actually felt like I owed Amanda an apology tbh because I hated on the girl when she was spot on about Camila all along.. Do these people not watch the same show. I cant..

Zach pissed me off so much in their interview..Why does every girl have to be thanking god to have you as a partner? Zach is dumb as ******* rocks he should be happy he has someone who is really smart and pick up where he is lacking. He is such a piece of shit.I can't believe the facebook comments were all supporting Zach and not Amanda...Did people forget how Zach treated Jonna??? Like wtf. And Didn't Amanda prove she wasn't bad when she was the one right about Camila all damn long? I actually felt like I owed Amanda an apology tbh because I hated on the girl when she was spot on about Camila all along.. Do these people not watch the same show. I cant..

It's a recency thing, a lot of these ppl are new to the challenge, like Rivals 3 and on. So most of them only know Invasion/Vendettas Zach. I was reading those comments too, a lot of them have selective memory and are highly delusional. "Amanda gasses out on every challenge." "Zach is so sweet to Jenna." I turned it off after that

WESANDNANYFAN wrote:

Zach pissed me off so much in their interview..Why does every girl have to be thanking god to have you as a partner? Zach is dumb as ******* rocks he should be happy he has someone who is really smart and pick up where he is lacking. He is such a piece of shit.I can't believe the facebook comments were all supporting Zach and not Amanda...Did people forget how Zach treated Jonna??? Like wtf. And Didn't Amanda prove she wasn't bad when she was the one right about Camila all damn long? I actually felt like I owed Amanda an apology tbh because I hated on the girl when she was spot on about Camila all along.. Do these people not watch the same show. I cant..

It's a recency thing, a lot of these ppl are new to the challenge, like Rivals 3 and on. So most of them only know Invasion/Vendettas Zach. I was reading those comments too, a lot of them have selective memory and are highly delusional. "Amanda gasses out on every challenge." "Zach is so sweet to Jenna." I turned it off after that

wow I didn't see those. that annoys the **** out of me lol

Wtf Amanda literally said she's happy w Zachary as her partner. Any female or male would. "Zach is a piece of shit" well Amanda isn't exactly a sweetheart.

Wtf Amanda literally said she's happy w Zachary as her partner. Any female or male would. "Zach is a piece of shit" well Amanda isn't exactly a sweetheart.

He is a piece of shit.....after the way he's treated women I think it is fair to say that about him

leposi wrote:

Wtf Amanda literally said she's happy w Zachary as her partner. Any female or male would. "Zach is a piece of shit" well Amanda isn't exactly a sweetheart.

He is a piece of shit.....after the way he's treated women I think it is fair to say that about him

https://twitter.com/ChallengeRWRR/status/1012496397562675207

lol HT. I'm here to save your soul. 

leposi wrote:

Wtf Amanda literally said she's happy w Zachary as her partner. Any female or male would. "Zach is a piece of shit" well Amanda isn't exactly a sweetheart.

He is a piece of shit.....after the way he's treated women I think it is fair to say that about him

Wtf Amanda literally said she's happy w Zachary as her partner. Any female or male would. "Zach is a piece of shit" well Amanda isn't exactly a sweetheart.

leposi wrote:

Wtf Amanda literally said she's happy w Zachary as her partner. Any female or male would. "Zach is a piece of shit" well Amanda isn't exactly a sweetheart.

SMH you had been doing to good too...... 1 step forward and 3 steps back with you lol

What's up with everyone on here calling Joss elite?Yes the guy has potential but i'm pretty sure he never won 1 mission on vendettas and his poitical game was meh..Is he considered elite because he won the purge?It's funny how  people bring up his purge win but nobody brings up Bananas destroying everyone at the dirty 30 purge....i know he did well on this season but he didn't win. Only winners should be considered elite.

What's up with everyone on here calling Joss elite?Yes the guy has potential but i'm pretty sure he never won 1 mission on vendettas and his poitical game was meh..Is he considered elite because he won the purge?It's funny how  people bring up his purge win but nobody brings up Bananas destroying everyone at the dirty 30 purge....i know he did well on this season but he didn't win. Only winners should be considered elite.

didn't him and Tony lose to Kam/Kayleigh, Natalie/Paulie, and were in Redemption for some time?

I'm pretty sure everyone would still consider Laurel elite prior to her actually winning based off of her impressive performances on dailies and eliminations. I agree that it's early to call Joss elite but he's on his way there. 

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