The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

Nvm I'm ******* screaming at them putting Jemmye and Jenna at 7th!!!!

They really did do Sylvia dirty. 

Okay I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. Tori and Derrick at 3rd, really?

Okay I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. Tori and Derrick at 3rd, really?

bananas and a partner they don’t even know at #2. I screamed!

Okay I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. Tori and Derrick at 3rd, really?

I can't believe how much casuals buy into her hype. Guarantee Derrick gets all the heat for them losing this season.

nevidcm wrote:

Okay I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. Tori and Derrick at 3rd, really?

bananas and a partner they don’t even know at #2. I screamed!

They really did do Sylvia dirty. 

Bad stamina and strength, yet she won 3 eliminations that had to do with stamina and strength against good competitiors lol k

Everyone please look at this list. I’m holding my sides laughing right now⚰️⚰️⚰️http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-challenge-final-reckoning-team-ranking/

It's really funny how they rate pairs so low from their judgement of the partners despite the other being good themselves yet when it comes to Bananas having a "mystery" partner, they rate him high claiming it doesn't matter who he's partnered with. Then there's Tori/Derrick H. over Joss/Syvlia

nevidcm wrote:

Okay I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. Tori and Derrick at 3rd, really?

bananas and a partner they don’t even know at #2. I screamed!

Ceej3 wrote:

They really did do Sylvia dirty. 

Bad stamina and strength, yet she won 3 eliminations that had to do with stamina and strength against good competitiors lol k

And they're saying Derrick H. is better than the likes of Nelson, Zach, and Joss to be rated higher?

Natalie and Paulie’s interview

https://twitter.com/challengemtv/status/1012017720135639041?s=21

The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

KChallenge10 wrote:

The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

Deeper with the FACTS.

Sylvia/Joss aren't too far below where they should be ranked preseason. Hard to argue having the guy/guy pairs ahead of them. Zach/Amanda seem like they were a better team competitively. I'll give them a pass on Cara. Jenna/Jem ahead of them is ridiculous though, and Tori/Derrick at 3 is that casual bias shining through. 

Honestly I think Kam/Melissa are better than Jenna/Jemmye. 

KChallenge10 wrote:

The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

I think Tori has proven herself more than Sylvia. And Derrick looks fit so one would think he would be good. I remember people were on here saying they could be a Ty/Emily kind of pair lol Yeah I would probably change some things around but it wasn't that bad. 

"It physically pains me to put CT this low" i hate this person 

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

I think Tori has proven herself more than Sylvia. And Derrick looks fit so one would think he would be good. I remember people were on here saying they could be a Ty/Emily kind of pair lol Yeah I would probably change some things around but it wasn't that bad. 

Care to explain how? She's good, don't get me wrong, but she really hasn't done much. Her reaching the final really is the result of getting lucky by riding between Cara/Camila and Jenna/Kailah and ******* Jordan lol. I think she'd lose to Sylvia one on one, straight up.

The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Ty & Emily did so well because Emily is jacked, Tori is no Emily 

Not only that, the list took in account possible alliances, and reasons why the team would potentially be targeted for. So placing Jenna and Jemmye 7th wasn't as bad as it may seem.

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

I think Tori has proven herself more than Sylvia. And Derrick looks fit so one would think he would be good. I remember people were on here saying they could be a Ty/Emily kind of pair lol Yeah I would probably change some things around but it wasn't that bad. 

Care to explain how? She's good, don't get me wrong, but she really hasn't done much. Her reaching the final really is the result of getting lucky by riding between Cara/Camila and Jenna/Kailah and ******* Jordan lol. I think she'd lose to Sylvia one on one, straight up.

I'd say on Dirty 30 she was one of the top females all season and never did poorly. She's not a beast but I think overall Tori > Sylvia. Sylvia is scrappy though so I think Tori would lose to her in a one on one wrestle type of elimination but if it has to do with endurance like a final or something athletic based I think Tori would beat her. Just my opinions though and hopefully Sylvia shines more on this one cause I like her way more. 

KChallenge10 wrote:

The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Ty & Emily did so well because Emily is jacked, Tori is no Emily 

I never made the comparison just remember others doing it and calling them a darkhorse team. 

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

I think Tori has proven herself more than Sylvia. And Derrick looks fit so one would think he would be good. I remember people were on here saying they could be a Ty/Emily kind of pair lol Yeah I would probably change some things around but it wasn't that bad. 

Care to explain how? She's good, don't get me wrong, but she really hasn't done much. Her reaching the final really is the result of getting lucky by riding between Cara/Camila and Jenna/Kailah and ******* Jordan lol. I think she'd lose to Sylvia one on one, straight up.

I'd say on Dirty 30 she was one of the top females all season and never did poorly. She's not a beast but I think overall Tori > Sylvia. Sylvia is scrappy though so I think Tori would lose to her in a one on one wrestle type of elimination but if it has to do with endurance like a final or something athletic based I think Tori would beat her. Just my opinions though and hopefully Sylvia shines more on this one cause I like her way more. 

I agree that Tori probably has endurance on Sylvia. Sylvia's begun to work out a lot more and has lost some weight, so hopefully she does do well running this season

The list is super biased, calling tori "one of the best female competitors in the franchise " is hilarious 

The list is super biased, calling tori "one of the best female competitors in the franchise " is hilarious 

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

I think Tori has proven herself more than Sylvia. And Derrick looks fit so one would think he would be good. I remember people were on here saying they could be a Ty/Emily kind of pair lol Yeah I would probably change some things around but it wasn't that bad. 

Care to explain how? She's good, don't get me wrong, but she really hasn't done much. Her reaching the final really is the result of getting lucky by riding between Cara/Camila and Jenna/Kailah and ******* Jordan lol. I think she'd lose to Sylvia one on one, straight up.

I'd say on Dirty 30 she was one of the top females all season and never did poorly. She's not a beast but I think overall Tori > Sylvia. Sylvia is scrappy though so I think Tori would lose to her in a one on one wrestle type of elimination but if it has to do with endurance like a final or something athletic based I think Tori would beat her. Just my opinions though and hopefully Sylvia shines more on this one cause I like her way more. 

I agree that Tori probably has endurance on Sylvia. Sylvia's begun to work out a lot more and has lost some weight, so hopefully she does do well running this season

Main reason why I'm excited to see her and Marie in a final. They'll either flop or surprise everyone lol 

The list is super biased, calling tori "one of the best female competitors in the franchise " is hilarious 

Everything was okay till that. He's drinking the same koolaid MTV is putting out  for Tori.

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:The list wasn't that bad lol Love Sylvia but she hasn't really proved herself IMO, Tori/Derrick seem like they'd do well and I remember people on here saying they would do decent similar to Emily/Ty. Think they are assuming Tony is Bananas partner so makes sense to have it at #2. 

Sylvia has definitely proved herself. Saying she hasn't and then saying Tori and Derrick seem like they'd do well is completely contradictory. Tori has won 1 elimination, lost to Kam as a mercenary, and got 3rd on a final. Derrick has done nothing but flop in 1 mission and 1 elimination. That's unproven.

I think Tori has proven herself more than Sylvia. And Derrick looks fit so one would think he would be good. I remember people were on here saying they could be a Ty/Emily kind of pair lol Yeah I would probably change some things around but it wasn't that bad. 

Care to explain how? She's good, don't get me wrong, but she really hasn't done much. Her reaching the final really is the result of getting lucky by riding between Cara/Camila and Jenna/Kailah and ******* Jordan lol. I think she'd lose to Sylvia one on one, straight up.

I'd say on Dirty 30 she was one of the top females all season and never did poorly. She's not a beast but I think overall Tori > Sylvia. Sylvia is scrappy though so I think Tori would lose to her in a one on one wrestle type of elimination but if it has to do with endurance like a final or something athletic based I think Tori would beat her. Just my opinions though and hopefully Sylvia shines more on this one cause I like her way more. 

I agree that Tori probably has endurance on Sylvia. Sylvia's begun to work out a lot more and has lost some weight, so hopefully she does do well running this season

Main reason why I'm excited to see her and Marie in a final. They'll either flop or surprise everyone lol 

Yeah I hope they both kill it. I don't want to see Joss or CM carry them (literally or not haha)