GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
Well he lost to Darrell in balls in which isn't something to be ashamed of. Devin lucked out by not facing bananas in a physical elimination. He lost to Derrick, who's very difficult to beat in an elimination that isn't a puzzle.
Right, he just needs people like Dario&Nicole to go against and then he's the GOAT, got it.
GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
see here is the thing i get he hasnt done well but other then devin (which was just turn on lights so that was all luck and no skill) he goes against the best of the best so I dont think his elmination record is 100% true stat, I look at it ike a mlb pitchers win lose record, it doesnt tell the full story.
Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
Well he lost to Darrell in balls in which isn't something to be ashamed of. Devin lucked out by not facing bananas in a physical elimination. He lost to Derrick, who's very difficult to beat in an elimination that isn't a puzzle.
You just proved his point. When he faces someone strong he loses.
GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
Well he lost to Darrell in balls in which isn't something to be ashamed of. Devin lucked out by not facing bananas in a physical elimination. He lost to Derrick, who's very difficult to beat in an elimination that isn't a puzzle.
I'd say 6 wins taking out mark CT twice and Jordan is 100% skill don't try to discredit the challenge Messiah
And losing to Leroy twice, Cara Maria in a puzzle, CT and Jordan in a puzzle, Darrell in something physical, Derrick in an endurance comp (thought that was his specialty :/), and Devin in a memory game.
Oh but he was handed wins on Island, Ruins, Rivals 3, and had two eliminations thrown for him to even make it to his Rivals and Exes wins. Such a Messiah.
JayTea wrote: the mercenaries have to be brought in for this one, because if they win and get to play there's still a lot of game left. Bringing entire teams with fresh legs in at the last second with the chance to win the whole season would be asinine
It'd be great to see CT and Darrell in a physical elimination if that's the case
the elimination we were robbed of on Invasion. one of CT's greatest strategic moves but I'd love to see them battle it out in something physical. It's been a while for CT
yeah that would have been great to see but I cant complain about any of the male champ elminations they were all so good. I just wish it wasnt darrell everytime but then again when you ony have four people there are ony so many conmbinations
Same. It got me so mad that Darrell did so well that season just to be screwed over the fact that only one male champ could make it to the end, even tho CT deserved it. Still a legendary comeback. I was so shook seeing his name on the cast list. Can't wait for him to come this season and kick ***
GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
Well he lost to Darrell in balls in which isn't something to be ashamed of. Devin lucked out by not facing bananas in a physical elimination. He lost to Derrick, who's very difficult to beat in an elimination that isn't a puzzle.
Right, he just needs people like Dario&Nicole to go against and then he's the GOAT, got it.
if anyone else went agaisnt the compition he has you would say they were unluckly, you want to discredit the best becuase you wish your favorite was the all time champ, its not like the players think he is bad they still think he is the best of the best
Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
JayTea wrote: the mercenaries have to be brought in for this one, because if they win and get to play there’s still a lot of game left. Bringing entire teams with fresh legs in at the last second with the chance to win the whole season would be asinine
It'd be great to see CT and Darrell in a physical elimination if that's the case
the elimination we were robbed of on Invasion. one of CT’s greatest strategic moves but I’d love to see them battle it out in something physical. It’s been a while for CT
yeah that would have been great to see but I cant complain about any of the male champ elminations they were all so good. I just wish it wasnt darrell everytime but then again when you ony have four people there are ony so many conmbinations
CT vs Darrell in balls in or pole wrestle would've been the best
Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
Not in the shape Wes is in these days, Wes in his prime would definitely take out Bananas in an elimination though
Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
For everyone saying Bananas isnt that great, then you clearly have bias. Everyone still calls him the best of the best on the show every season they try to take him out because he is there biggest compition. They all say there is no way they win a final unless they get bananas out. they would feel that way if he was an average player. But some how people like amanda who no is even remotely scared to go againist is the amazing. OK... love your logic
AllHailKingNanners wrote:Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
Not in the shape Wes is in these days, Wes in his prime would definitely take out Bananas in an elimination though
Wes was literally in his worst shape when he took him out during the blindfold thing but go AWF
Let's be real, the only reason Johnny makes it far in these games is cause he's always set up well by the producers. There's never been a season he doesn't have 3-4 ***** boys (like Leroy) just following his orders.
AllHailKingNanners wrote:Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
********* coming in with them facts >>>>
1000000000% the weaest part of his game his the elmination but there are people trying to say he isnt good that the game which is just because people dont like him, Its like when people try to take down lebron james yeah he has weakness but no is perfect and doesnt make himn of the all time great
For everyone saying Bananas isnt that great, then you clearly have bias. Everyone still calls him the best of the best on the show every season they try to take him out because he is there biggest compition. They all say there is no way they win a final unless they get bananas out. they would feel that way if he was an average player. But some how people like amanda who no is even remotely scared to go againist is the amazing. OK... love your logic
And your bias is gobsmackingly obvious if you won't admit that Bananas has a weakness. That weakness is eliminations -->FACT.
Let's be real, the only reason Johnny makes it far in these games is cause he's always set up well by the producers. There's never been a season he doesn't have 3-4 ***** boys (like Leroy) just following his orders.
Also he's good. Very good. Politically and in the game. He's developed a reputation where many (outside of Devin) do not want to go against him because if they do, they're usually gone.
AllHailKingNanners wrote:Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
********* coming in with them facts >>>>
Everybody has a weakness, I'm just saying CT took how many challenges to win despite his size his political game is pretty garbage, his politics are I'm a monster so you're afraid to throw me in, that will only get you so far, Wes is not on the juice anymore so he has no physicality and his politics are a fall-on-his-face tepid version of bananas politics, I mean we can break down every male competiotr currently active in challenges and i invite you to argue what makes them better and none of that "hes better in eliminations" well eliminations are not the entire game. All OI'm saying is its tough to deny that the case can be made that hes the best overall in the entire game male or female. I mean for christ sakes he has a group of sheep following him every single challenge because they fear what he can do if they cross him
AllHailKingNanners wrote:Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
********* coming in with them facts >>>>
1000000000% the weaest part of his game his the elmination but there are people trying to say he isnt good that the game which is just because people dont like him, Its like when people try to take down lebron james yeah he has weakness but no is perfect and doesnt make himn of the all time great
Yeah I think he's been good at the game but now that he's lost a lot of that scared mentality he had over most of the cast his chances of winning are a lot lower. But that's why I see him winning with Tony because Tony brings in the other half of the cast that would normally target Johnny. Johnny is sitting reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllll pretty for 32.
GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
Well he lost to Darrell in balls in which isn't something to be ashamed of. Devin lucked out by not facing bananas in a physical elimination. He lost to Derrick, who's very difficult to beat in an elimination that isn't a puzzle.
I'd say 6 wins taking out mark CT twice and Jordan is 100% skill don't try to discredit the challenge Messiah
Well 2 of those wins were thrown to him. Adam King on Rivals and Mark on Exes. Beating CT in a puzzle is a good win. Same with Jordan in Wrecking Wall. Bananas nor Tony are people that should be feared in an elimination though
For everyone saying Bananas isnt that great, then you clearly have bias. Everyone still calls him the best of the best on the show every season they try to take him out because he is there biggest compition. They all say there is no way they win a final unless they get bananas out. they would feel that way if he was an average player. But some how people like amanda who no is even remotely scared to go againist is the amazing. OK... love your logic
He's great. But he's not as great as the best of the best. He's been very fortunate to be on seasons that were practically impossible for him to lose (Island, Ruins, Rivals 3), and there were some shady moves around his eliminations in Exes and Rivals.
The only thing Johnny was scary good at was finals, but seeing him gas out on him elimination vs Derrick and his second-to-last finish on the opening episode of Vendettas, I don't even think he has that anymore.
His "drama" as a man in his mid-thirties was getting production to write notes for him. His performances have proven he can't hang with the big dogs. He's a has-been, who was overrated and lucky in the first place.
Let's be real, the only reason Johnny makes it far in these games is cause he's always set up well by the producers. There's never been a season he doesn't have 3-4 ***** boys (like Leroy) just following his orders.
Also he's good. Very good. Politically and in the game. He's developed a reputation where many (outside of Devin) do not want to go against him because if they do, they're usually gone.
Once again that's because he's set up well with all his allies in the game. Take away his allies and he's nothing. Certainly not good at eliminations either.
For everyone saying Bananas isnt that great, then you clearly have bias. Everyone still calls him the best of the best on the show every season they try to take him out because he is there biggest compition. They all say there is no way they win a final unless they get bananas out. they would feel that way if he was an average player. But some how people like amanda who no is even remotely scared to go againist is the amazing. OK... love your logic
Even John doesn't think he's on the level of CT, Alton, Landon, etc
GDInstall wrote:BTW CT has that weird " luck" now. Its almost fatal to bet against him in anything luck related lol
Just so weird how CT and Johnny always get so "lucky".
they must have changed the definition of lucky to skill
His 1-6 elimination record since Free Agents is considered skill? :/
Well he lost to Darrell in balls in which isn't something to be ashamed of. Devin lucked out by not facing bananas in a physical elimination. He lost to Derrick, who's very difficult to beat in an elimination that isn't a puzzle.
I'd say 6 wins taking out mark CT twice and Jordan is 100% skill don't try to discredit the challenge Messiah
Well 2 of those wins were thrown to him. Adam King on Rivals and Mark on Exes. Beating CT in a puzzle is a good win. Same with Jordan in Wrecking Wall. Bananas nor Tony are people that should be feared in an elimination though
They wouldn't be on maybe a season like Invasion of the Champs or Dirty 30, but who's big competition for Bananas & Tony?
I just realized this means NATALIE and VERONICA are currently alone together (along with Paulie/CT) in redemption lmaooooo. so scandalous. I wonder if they'll confront each other. this could be an interesting dynamic.
AllHailKingNanners wrote:Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
Not in the shape Wes is in these days, Wes in his prime would definitely take out Bananas in an elimination though
Wes was literally in his worst shape when he took him out during the blindfold thing but go AWF
He didn't need to be in shape to win that though, kind of like Knight winning a similar elimination. It was a combination of technique and luck. I meant more so in an elimination that would be physical, I couldn't see Wes beating Bananas.
I just realized this means NATALIE and VERONICA are currently alone together (along with Paulie/CT) in redemption lmaooooo. so scandalous. I wonder if they'll confront each other. this could be an interesting dynamic.
I just realized this means NATALIE and VERONICA are currently alone together (along with Paulie/CT) in redemption lmaooooo. so scandalous. I wonder if they'll confront each other. this could be an interesting dynamic.
Wait someone catch me up. Ct/V & Nat/Paulie are in Redemption?! **** I need to start reading every single page. Lolol
thefatskinnyguy wrote:Let's be real, the only reason Johnny makes it far in these games is cause he's always set up well by the producers. There's never been a season he doesn't have 3-4 ***** boys (like Leroy) just following his orders.
Also he's good. Very good. Politically and in the game. He's developed a reputation where many (outside of Devin) do not want to go against him because if they do, they're usually gone.
Once again that's because he's set up well with all his allies in the game. Take away his allies and he's nothing. Certainly not good at eliminations either.
You could say that about anyone though. Bananas is smart at developing strategies and winning Challenges. He was in the Troika FOUR times before he was eliminated. That means out of 7 Challenges, he won 4.
Right, he just needs people like Dario&Nicole to go against and then he's the GOAT, got it.
see here is the thing i get he hasnt done well but other then devin (which was just turn on lights so that was all luck and no skill) he goes against the best of the best so I dont think his elmination record is 100% true stat, I look at it ike a mlb pitchers win lose record, it doesnt tell the full story.
Also the elimination against Wes blindfolded lol, everyone knows if it was anything else. I mean anything else it was bananas hands down but I'm not gonna get into it his challenge record speaks for itself challenge specials crowning him number one is about as authentic as it gets, TJ saying he's the GOAT is enough. Cmon now
You just proved his point. When he faces someone strong he loses.
And losing to Leroy twice, Cara Maria in a puzzle, CT and Jordan in a puzzle, Darrell in something physical, Derrick in an endurance comp (thought that was his specialty :/), and Devin in a memory game.
Oh but he was handed wins on Island, Ruins, Rivals 3, and had two eliminations thrown for him to even make it to his Rivals and Exes wins. Such a Messiah.
Same. It got me so mad that Darrell did so well that season just to be screwed over the fact that only one male champ could make it to the end, even tho CT deserved it. Still a legendary comeback. I was so shook seeing his name on the cast list. Can't wait for him to come this season and kick ***
if anyone else went agaisnt the compition he has you would say they were unluckly, you want to discredit the best becuase you wish your favorite was the all time champ, its not like the players think he is bad they still think he is the best of the best
LOL. Look no one is disputing Johnny being great at the overall game. He's great at daily challenges and his political/social game got him very far for a very long time. That being said, eliminations have always and will always be his weak point. Period. Wes has the best elimination record of anyone. If anyone is going to beat Johnny at an elimination it's going to be Wes.
CT vs Darrell in balls in or pole wrestle would've been the best
Not in the shape Wes is in these days, Wes in his prime would definitely take out Bananas in an elimination though
********* coming in with them facts >>>>
For everyone saying Bananas isnt that great, then you clearly have bias. Everyone still calls him the best of the best on the show every season they try to take him out because he is there biggest compition. They all say there is no way they win a final unless they get bananas out. they would feel that way if he was an average player. But some how people like amanda who no is even remotely scared to go againist is the amazing. OK... love your logic
Wes was literally in his worst shape when he took him out during the blindfold thing but go AWF
Let's be real, the only reason Johnny makes it far in these games is cause he's always set up well by the producers. There's never been a season he doesn't have 3-4 ***** boys (like Leroy) just following his orders.
The twist seems flawed. Incredibly flawed. Like egregiously flawed.
1000000000% the weaest part of his game his the elmination but there are people trying to say he isnt good that the game which is just because people dont like him, Its like when people try to take down lebron james yeah he has weakness but no is perfect and doesnt make himn of the all time great
And your bias is gobsmackingly obvious if you won't admit that Bananas has a weakness. That weakness is eliminations -->FACT.
Also he's good. Very good. Politically and in the game. He's developed a reputation where many (outside of Devin) do not want to go against him because if they do, they're usually gone.
Everybody has a weakness, I'm just saying CT took how many challenges to win despite his size his political game is pretty garbage, his politics are I'm a monster so you're afraid to throw me in, that will only get you so far, Wes is not on the juice anymore so he has no physicality and his politics are a fall-on-his-face tepid version of bananas politics, I mean we can break down every male competiotr currently active in challenges and i invite you to argue what makes them better and none of that "hes better in eliminations" well eliminations are not the entire game. All OI'm saying is its tough to deny that the case can be made that hes the best overall in the entire game male or female. I mean for christ sakes he has a group of sheep following him every single challenge because they fear what he can do if they cross him
Yeah I think he's been good at the game but now that he's lost a lot of that scared mentality he had over most of the cast his chances of winning are a lot lower. But that's why I see him winning with Tony because Tony brings in the other half of the cast that would normally target Johnny. Johnny is sitting reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllll pretty for 32.
Well 2 of those wins were thrown to him. Adam King on Rivals and Mark on Exes. Beating CT in a puzzle is a good win. Same with Jordan in Wrecking Wall. Bananas nor Tony are people that should be feared in an elimination though
He's great. But he's not as great as the best of the best. He's been very fortunate to be on seasons that were practically impossible for him to lose (Island, Ruins, Rivals 3), and there were some shady moves around his eliminations in Exes and Rivals.
The only thing Johnny was scary good at was finals, but seeing him gas out on him elimination vs Derrick and his second-to-last finish on the opening episode of Vendettas, I don't even think he has that anymore.
His "drama" as a man in his mid-thirties was getting production to write notes for him. His performances have proven he can't hang with the big dogs. He's a has-been, who was overrated and lucky in the first place.
Once again that's because he's set up well with all his allies in the game. Take away his allies and he's nothing. Certainly not good at eliminations either.
Even John doesn't think he's on the level of CT, Alton, Landon, etc
They wouldn't be on maybe a season like Invasion of the Champs or Dirty 30, but who's big competition for Bananas & Tony?
I just realized this means NATALIE and VERONICA are currently alone together (along with Paulie/CT) in redemption lmaooooo. so scandalous. I wonder if they'll confront each other. this could be an interesting dynamic.
He didn't need to be in shape to win that though, kind of like Knight winning a similar elimination. It was a combination of technique and luck. I meant more so in an elimination that would be physical, I couldn't see Wes beating Bananas.
omg... did not even realize that. dying.
Wait someone catch me up. Ct/V & Nat/Paulie are in Redemption?! **** I need to start reading every single page. Lolol
You could say that about anyone though. Bananas is smart at developing strategies and winning Challenges. He was in the Troika FOUR times before he was eliminated. That means out of 7 Challenges, he won 4.
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