brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
I wonder who Cara considers her biggest threats. I mean, she definitely won't be upset Melissa and especially Kailah are gone. I only see Natalie, Kailah, Jenna and maybe MAYBE Kam or Tori as real threats to her and now one of them is gone
Cara barely beat Tori in the Dirty XXX final. And her and Kam have performed pretty evenly from what I've seen on Vendetas. Jenna always has the pure size advantage. The biggest gain from Kailah leaving, is that Kailah was a problem for Cara politically.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
kam and tori are big strong girls, they outweigh Cara and tori was right behind Cara in that Dirty 30 final, she even passed her on the final sprint. And kam didn’t even work out and passed Cara up the rock of Gibraltar. How are they not threats lol
Exactly. Sylvia has proven herself too. Jenna we already know is above average although her ankle might change that.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
I hope you're right about Day but you're setting yourself up for disappointment IMO
I have a lot of faith in her. She hasnt done much on BB but i really think she's capable of a lot on The Challenge.
Socially/strategically I agree assuming she can keep her mouth shut at times (she'll tell you she has to do that as well)
I just don't see it competitively but this season doesn't have many great or even good competitors IMO so it's possible I'm just not counting on it. I'm just going to enjoy her for as long as she's there...just like Veronica.
natalie is only compeition to cara if she makes a final which she wontkam and tori only shot is in a elimination, which they would choose a weaker girl instead of cara bc of fear to go home.its a wrap, i dont know why these girls even waste their time showing up... im telling you all the strong female compeitiors been retired. cara is gonna sweep from here on out like johnny did pre rivals 3
flashforward to Cara losing to Jemmye in a turn on the lights comp. Cara's the clear favorite, but it is FAR from a wrap. There's so much randomness and chance in any given season. That's why you have to play out the season.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
I wonder who Cara considers her biggest threats. I mean, she definitely won't be upset Melissa and especially Kailah are gone. I only see Natalie, Kailah, Jenna and maybe MAYBE Kam or Tori as real threats to her and now one of them is gone
Cara barely beat Tori in the Dirty XXX final. And her and Kam have performed pretty evenly from what I've seen on Vendetas. Jenna always has the pure size advantage. The biggest gain from Kailah leaving, is that Kailah was a problem for Cara politically.
Yeah Kailah being out changes stuff. I see a potential Cara-Tori-Jenna alliance with Kam possibly working with them.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
kam and tori are big strong girls, they outweigh Cara and tori was right behind Cara in that Dirty 30 final, she even passed her on the final sprint. And kam didn’t even work out and passed Cara up the rock of Gibraltar. How are they not threats lol
Exactly. Sylvia has proven herself too. Jenna we already know is above average although her ankle might change that.
Sylvia is someone that I think I could eventually like but I don't know how she's proven herself. I don't hold much into beating LaToya. She has nice wins against Kailah & Melissa but nothing stellar. I hope she plays a better strategic game and stays healthy finally.
why yall saying kailah hit melissa first, i dont see her laying the paws first, if anything messy melissa pounce on that *** bc kailah was talking shit, hopefully no other******* jumped in and it was 1 on 1, but i can already see that gremlin smellye trying to sneak a hit on the queen melegend
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
I hope you're right about Day but you're setting yourself up for disappointment IMO
I have a lot of faith in her. She hasnt done much on BB but i really think she's capable of a lot on The Challenge.
Socially/strategically I agree assuming she can keep her mouth shut at times (she'll tell you she has to do that as well) I just don't see it competitively but this season doesn't have many great or even good competitors IMO so it's possible I'm just not counting on it. I'm just going to enjoy her for as long as she's there...just like Veronica.
I see your point, but at the same time her only real competition is Cara, Kam, and Tori. Physically she could beat most of the girls like Marie,Natalie, Kayleigh, Melissa, Jemmye, Angela, etc.
I just think saying anyone other than Cara is the favorite is biased against her. Only two of these girls are champions (I think, right?) and Veronica hasn't won in over a decade. Until someone proves otherwise this is Cara vs the field and smart money goes on Cara
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
I hope you're right about Day but you're setting yourself up for disappointment IMO
I have a lot of faith in her. She hasnt done much on BB but i really think she's capable of a lot on The Challenge.
Socially/strategically I agree assuming she can keep her mouth shut at times (she'll tell you she has to do that as well) I just don't see it competitively but this season doesn't have many great or even good competitors IMO so it's possible I'm just not counting on it. I'm just going to enjoy her for as long as she's there...just like Veronica.
Tbf BB is a lot more strategic and social. Alliances are constantly shifting and it comes down to a vote. With the challenge its more straightforward. As long as she can hold her own physically, i think she'll reach far.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
I hope you're right about Day but you're setting yourself up for disappointment IMO
I have a lot of faith in her. She hasnt done much on BB but i really think she's capable of a lot on The Challenge.
Socially/strategically I agree assuming she can keep her mouth shut at times (she'll tell you she has to do that as well) I just don't see it competitively but this season doesn't have many great or even good competitors IMO so it's possible I'm just not counting on it. I'm just going to enjoy her for as long as she's there...just like Veronica.
I see your point, but at the same time her only real competition is Cara, Kam, and Tori. Physically she could beat most of the girls like Marie,Natalie, Kayleigh, Melissa, Jemmye, Angela, etc.
I just think saying anyone other than Cara is the favorite is biased against her. Only two of these girls are champions (I think, right?) and Veronica hasn't won in over a decade. Until someone proves otherwise this is Cara vs the field and smart money goes on Cara
I don't think anyone is arguing that Cara isn't the favorite. I'd bet on her vs. anyone else for sure. I just think its an exaggeration to be on her vs. the field. I'd say she has like 35% of the win equity, so I'd gladly bet on the field.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
I hope you're right about Day but you're setting yourself up for disappointment IMO
I have a lot of faith in her. She hasnt done much on BB but i really think she's capable of a lot on The Challenge.
Socially/strategically I agree assuming she can keep her mouth shut at times (she'll tell you she has to do that as well) I just don't see it competitively but this season doesn't have many great or even good competitors IMO so it's possible I'm just not counting on it. I'm just going to enjoy her for as long as she's there...just like Veronica.
I see your point, but at the same time her only real competition is Cara, Kam, and Tori. Physically she could beat most of the girls like Marie,Natalie, Kayleigh, Melissa, Jemmye, Angela, etc.
I'm not convinced that's true...
I don’t see why not. She’s tall, relatively fit, and has great endurance.
brett wrote:cara laughing herself to the bank of how easy this is for her.
Not really. All the major threats are still there in Kam/Tori/Sylvia/Jenna/Natalie/Da'vonne. Also Queen Ashley if she's the replacement.
LOL AT THIS BEING COMPETITION, double LOL at jenna, natalie, davonne natalie, and sylvia
If they arent competition, then neither was Kailah.Also Momma Day is the next elite. You'll see.
kam and tori are big strong girls, they outweigh Cara and tori was right behind Cara in that Dirty 30 final, she even passed her on the final sprint. And kam didn’t even work out and passed Cara up the rock of Gibraltar. How are they not threats lol
Exactly. Sylvia has proven herself too. Jenna we already know is above average although her ankle might change that.
Sylvia is someone that I think I could eventually like but I don't know how she's proven herself. I don't hold much into beating LaToya. She has nice wins against Kailah & Melissa but nothing stellar. I hope she plays a better strategic game and stays healthy finally.
I think her win against Melissa was amazing. Melissa was bigger and was playing really dirty. Not only did Sylvia win, but she did it while being really sick. And supposedly had to score an extra ball because production didnt count it. I definitely think Cara is better than her but i think Sylvia has the potential to win a few daily missions which she could use against Cara.
I just think saying anyone other than Cara is the favorite is biased against her. Only two of these girls are champions (I think, right?) and Veronica hasn't won in over a decade. Until someone proves otherwise this is Cara vs the field and smart money goes on Cara
I don't think anyone is arguing that Cara isn't the favorite. I'd bet on her vs. anyone else for sure. I just think its an exaggeration to be on her vs. the field. I'd say she has like 35% of the win equity, so I'd gladly bet on the field.
Same. I love my elite Queen Cara but Laurel losing to Camila proves anything can happen. And this game seems to have a lot of twists already. She almost got screwed over with the voting twist but somehow managed to pull out that puzzle win on Dirty 30. If theres anything similar, she can be taken out pretty easily.
I go to brunch and a show and come back to all **** breaking lose. Getting DQ'd sucks for anyone regardless of the conditions. I wonder how things will play out for Kayleigh most of the season, banana is her only ally now? I can't keep up with who is friends with her or not
I go to brunch and a show and come back to all **** breaking lose. Getting DQ'd sucks for anyone regardless of the conditions. I wonder how things will play out for Kayleigh most of the season, banana is her only ally now? I can't keep up with who is friends with her or not
If Morgan is on this season I wonder what his interactions with Tori and Amanda will be like bc of old man mike c. For that matter does anyone know if tori and Amanda get along?
I have a lot of faith in her. She hasnt done much on BB but i really think she's capable of a lot on The Challenge.
Cara barely beat Tori in the Dirty XXX final. And her and Kam have performed pretty evenly from what I've seen on Vendetas. Jenna always has the pure size advantage. The biggest gain from Kailah leaving, is that Kailah was a problem for Cara politically.
kailah probably swung first..come for another *****. Melissa ain't the one
Exactly. Sylvia has proven herself too. Jenna we already know is above average although her ankle might change that.
Socially/strategically I agree assuming she can keep her mouth shut at times (she'll tell you she has to do that as well)
I just don't see it competitively but this season doesn't have many great or even good competitors IMO so it's possible I'm just not counting on it. I'm just going to enjoy her for as long as she's there...just like Veronica.
omg so sad for Devin : ( that is ******* terrible. prayers for him and his family<3
flashforward to Cara losing to Jemmye in a turn on the lights comp. Cara's the clear favorite, but it is FAR from a wrap. There's so much randomness and chance in any given season. That's why you have to play out the season.
Yeah Kailah being out changes stuff. I see a potential Cara-Tori-Jenna alliance with Kam possibly working with them.
Sylvia is someone that I think I could eventually like but I don't know how she's proven herself. I don't hold much into beating LaToya. She has nice wins against Kailah & Melissa but nothing stellar. I hope she plays a better strategic game and stays healthy finally.
why yall saying kailah hit melissa first, i dont see her laying the paws first, if anything messy melissa pounce on that *** bc kailah was talking shit, hopefully no other******* jumped in and it was 1 on 1, but i can already see that gremlin smellye trying to sneak a hit on the queen melegend
I see your point, but at the same time her only real competition is Cara, Kam, and Tori. Physically she could beat most of the girls like Marie,Natalie, Kayleigh, Melissa, Jemmye, Angela, etc.
I just think saying anyone other than Cara is the favorite is biased against her. Only two of these girls are champions (I think, right?) and Veronica hasn't won in over a decade. Until someone proves otherwise this is Cara vs the field and smart money goes on Cara
Tbf BB is a lot more strategic and social. Alliances are constantly shifting and it comes down to a vote. With the challenge its more straightforward. As long as she can hold her own physically, i think she'll reach far.
I'm not convinced that's true...
DaVonne may beat Cara
at what
I don't think anyone is arguing that Cara isn't the favorite. I'd bet on her vs. anyone else for sure. I just think its an exaggeration to be on her vs. the field. I'd say she has like 35% of the win equity, so I'd gladly bet on the field.
the final reckoning
I don’t see why not. She’s tall, relatively fit, and has great endurance.
I think her win against Melissa was amazing. Melissa was bigger and was playing really dirty. Not only did Sylvia win, but she did it while being really sick. And supposedly had to score an extra ball because production didnt count it. I definitely think Cara is better than her but i think Sylvia has the potential to win a few daily missions which she could use against Cara.
Same. I love my elite Queen Cara but Laurel losing to Camila proves anything can happen. And this game seems to have a lot of twists already. She almost got screwed over with the voting twist but somehow managed to pull out that puzzle win on Dirty 30. If theres anything similar, she can be taken out pretty easily.
I go to brunch and a show and come back to all **** breaking lose. Getting DQ'd sucks for anyone regardless of the conditions. I wonder how things will play out for Kayleigh most of the season, banana is her only ally now? I can't keep up with who is friends with her or not
Cara and Marie are friends with her too.
At being a mother.
I like Cara but I pray that we get new winners. Amanda & Nelson, Sylvia & Joss are the most ideal for me
As much as i want new winners, im still rooting for Cara and Landon lol
If Morgan is on this season I wonder what his interactions with Tori and Amanda will be like bc of old man mike c. For that matter does anyone know if tori and Amanda get along?
I'd be fine with Amanda, Joss or Slyvia winning. I can't stand Nelson so I can't root for that. Actually, I can't root for any guy other than Landon.
Perfect/realistic outcome is Landon and a new girl champion not named Jenna
like someone above said, isnt it sad that in this group of 17 girls only 2 are winners,
which are cara, and veronica who won over 10 years ago....
if only they casted more girls based who are competive and not on drama maybe we would see some unpredictability
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