The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion)

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MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.

I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interesting

How so?

With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imo

or they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happens

I think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbh

I agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyone

Kam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.

Nah Kam said she would choose to face Cara in elimination to take her out. I think its safe to say they arent working together. But other than Cara, Melissa and Natalie she seems to be in a good place with everyone else.

If true then Kam won't be in the middle or in a safe spot.  Being against Cara and Natalie is hardly good for someone to be safely in the middle.  Natalie actually is probably the extra girl that will work with the vets. 

It is still a good place because all of the girls are again them 2 pretty much. Cara and Natalie are much more likely to target Marie and the rookies first though.

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InterFan wrote:
MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.

I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interesting

How so?

With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imo

or they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happens

I think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbh

I agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyone

Kam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.

Nah Kam said she would choose to face Cara in elimination to take her out. I think its safe to say they arent working together. But other than Cara, Melissa and Natalie she seems to be in a good place with everyone else.

If true then Kam won't be in the middle or in a safe spot.  Being against Cara and Natalie is hardly good for someone to be safely in the middle.  Natalie actually is probably the extra girl that will work with the vets. 

It is still a good place because all of the girls are again them 2 pretty much. Cara and Natalie are much more likely to target Marie and the rookies first though.

I would think, assuming they have power, they would be sending in Kam to take out a lot of those girls.   Which, isn't the worst spot because Kam should be able to beat them but it's still risky. 

Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of Leroy

Lmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. 

The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.

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ChallengeLover422 wrote:I hope that Angela is not a regular. That should be Katrina spot.

omg shut up 

Veronica will be a target sooner than later

kvm1977 wrote:

Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of Leroy

Lmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.

Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with them

Veronica will be a target sooner than later

That works....is she still going to take home more money than pretty much everyone else?  Smile

"They find her as an old lady who complains about everything"

Kam needs to leave V alone! Lol Lol Lol

I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

PinkRose wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of Leroy

Lmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.

Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with them

Because she had a crush on her lol But I heard Natalie wasnt happy about Veronica sharing screenshots of them to the rest cast and Like Bananas told her making a joke of nat for no reason

I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

Which also gives her Brad...she might still have Shane.  Landon probably doesn't know many people so I would expect him to work with anyone he knows at all.

I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

And she has been talking shit about 2 of them behind their back.

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PinkRose wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of Leroy

Lmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.

Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with them

Because she had a crush on her lol But I heard Natalie wasnt happy about Veronica sharing screenshots of them to the rest cast and Like Bananas told her making a joke of nat for no reason

Hey, crushes are hard to get over and we know (ask Evan) that Veronica will do what she has to do to stay safe Smile

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I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

Which also gives her Brad...she might still have Shane.  Landon probably doesn't know many people so I would expect him to work with anyone he knows at all.

I was talking about the girls lol. The guys had a lot of power on Vendettas but i see them fixing it this time.

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I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

Which also gives her Brad...she might still have Shane.  Landon probably doesn't know many people so I would expect him to work with anyone he knows at all.

Brad is not having her back over to many of this girls....Brad is vocal about not liking her

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kvm1977 wrote:Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of Leroy

Lmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.

Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with them

Because she had a crush on her lol But I heard Natalie wasnt happy about Veronica sharing screenshots of them to the rest cast and Like Bananas told her making a joke of nat for no reason

lol Poor Natalie, everyone trying to out her all the time. Veronica is screwed then, unless she wins her eliminations.

Landon working with Veronica? After she tried to out him for petty reasons? Laughable 

kvm1977 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of Leroy

Lmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.

Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with them

Because she had a crush on her lol But I heard Natalie wasnt happy about Veronica sharing screenshots of them to the rest cast and Like Bananas told her making a joke of nat for no reason

What a ******* *****. Veronica really been acting like trash.

Landon DEFINITELY won't be working with V lol

I do hope she can bring out the guns & last long despite the odds.

InterFan wrote:

I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

And she has been talking shit about 2 of them behind their back.

Lol Britni and Marie. I love Queen V but she needs to start being nicer to people if she wants to make it far.

Landon working with Veronica? After she tried to put him for petty reasons? Laughable 

Outing Landon and Natalie for jokes just makes what Veronica did about the whole Aneesa shit look foolish 

Da'vonne Sylvia Marie Amanda Natalie or Kam i need one of y'all to dethrone the witch that is named Cara. Do it for the culture please 

kvm1977 wrote:

InterFan wrote:I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

Which also gives her Brad...she might still have Shane.  Landon probably doesn't know many people so I would expect him to work with anyone he knows at all.

I was talking about the girls lol. The guys had a lot of power on Vendettas but i see them fixing it this time.

When is the last time girls had power?   Cutthroat when Jenn & Tori had power?  It's been a very long time since the girls ran anything...sadly.   The girls tend to do what the guys want

Da'vonne Sylvia Marie Amanda Natalie or Kam i need one of y'all to dethrone the witch that is named Cara. Do it for the culture please 

I see someones jumped on the Kam train the moment their fave got the boot Smile

PinkRose wrote:kvm1977 wrote:PinkRose wrote:kvm1977 wrote:Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of LeroyLmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with themBecause she had a crush on her lol But I heard Natalie wasnt happy about Veronica sharing screenshots of them to the rest cast and Like Bananas told her making a joke of nat for no reasonHey, crushes are hard to get over and we know (ask Evan) that Veronica will do what she has to do to stay safe Smile

Okay love ! Will let you live in your alternate universe for now ☕️☕️☕️

Landon working with Veronica? After she tried to out him for petty reasons? Laughable 

I don't see Landon as being that petty.   Format will also matter here

InterFan wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

InterFan wrote:I think V might be screwed this time. All she really has is Jemmye, Britni and Marie pretty much.

Which also gives her Brad...she might still have Shane.  Landon probably doesn't know many people so I would expect him to work with anyone he knows at all.

I was talking about the girls lol. The guys had a lot of power on Vendettas but i see them fixing it this time.

When is the last time girls had power?   Cutthroat when Jenn & Tori had power?  It's been a very long time since the girls ran anything...sadly.   The girls tend to do what the guys want

Dirty 30. The girls were mostly controlling what happened to the girls.

She does have Shane & he has the LavenDolphins......she needs to be more open & get to know them.

kvm1977 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:kvm1977 wrote:PinkRose wrote:kvm1977 wrote:Gucci Mane wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:JayTea wrote:InterFan wrote:kvm1977 wrote:InterFan wrote:MarianaRO wrote:This sucks lol Whether you like Kailah or not, the girls side just got way more predictable/boring.I'd say it makes the politics a lot more interestingHow so?With Kailah in the game, theres a huge alliance of Kailah, Sylvia, Marie, Kam, Tori and Jenna. With Kailah out of the equation i see it breaking the alliance up with Sylvia/Marie on one side, Tori/Jenna on the other and Kam floating in the middle. That lets all the other girls like Amanda, Cara, Natalie, Jemmye, Veronica and Britni to fit in on either side imoor they all just shuffle around being stupid while Cara/Jenna/Natalie are the only ones that play correctly like what usually happensI think Tori and Kam are in the best positions tbhI agree with Tori but why Kam?   Kam is going to be seen as aligned with Marie and being aligned with Marie is rarely good for anyoneKam seems to be cool with both John and Cara now.I guess we shall see...that would be good for her game.  I think the veteran guys (John, Landon, Brad, CT, Zach) will be working with Jenna, Cara, Veronica, Britni and Jemmye....add Joss, Kyle, Tori and one more girl (maybe Kam) to that group and that's the core.   Kam might be in that group because of LeroyLmaooooo At them working with Veronica. A lot of them find her extremely annoying. The majority of those guys, Jenna, Kam and Tori. Are really open on admitting that they find her as an old lady that complaints about everything. Even Susie think she is grumpy that tells you a lot.Natalie was all about getting Veronica to like her last year.  We'll see how it plays out.  You don't have to like someone to work with themBecause she had a crush on her lol But I heard Natalie wasnt happy about Veronica sharing screenshots of them to the rest cast and Like Bananas told her making a joke of nat for no reasonHey, crushes are hard to get over and we know (ask Evan) that Veronica will do what she has to do to stay safe Smile

Okay love ! Will let you live in your alternate universe for now ☕️☕️☕️

lol--I'm honestly fine if she goes home first.  I was fine with her not even showing up this season.  She could have used a break.   I'm sure that app check is hard for her to pass on though.   

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