The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion)

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gamer73 wrote:

Daily reminder that Shane Landrum will be the champion of Final Reckoning (btw I hate this name). 

when the final is actually a team final and Landon, Shane, and Joss are crowned winners >>>

kvm1977 wrote:

tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

tdstegall wrote:

Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she’s worried they’re punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

What are you talking about? She quit because she had just finished Champs vs Pros and was mentally stressed and drained. She was completely justified to quit

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

She also quit her Real World season after less than a month. I love Ashley but I understand why production doesn't wanna give her a full season anymore.

Also I agree she should've never agreed to do Dirty 30 in the first place.

There’s no way Amanda doesn’t get into a fight with either of Kayleigh or Melissa at least once. She’s also very attracted to Joss so that’ll be fun to watch.

What about zak from ayto3?

Speaking of Raccoon, he's gunna be PRESSED if he ain't on it and Chucky is.

Does Joss still have a girlfriend?

kvm1977 wrote:

tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she’s worried they’re punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

What are you talking about? She quit because she had just finished Champs vs Pros and was mentally stressed and drained. She was completely justified to quit

Did John quit?  Or Cara?   She should have never gotten on the plane.  Her decision.  Pathetic.  And again, I like Ashley, but it was pathetic decision and if she never makes the cast again it's completely on her

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

but not everyone realizes how mentally taxing these challenges are until they actually get there. I'm usually not a fan of quitters and she may threaten to quit but I think it was better for her to quit than to have had a Camila type freak out. The luggage was just the icing on the cake. And your argument for her wasting a spot isn't that strong when she did get replaced ASAP. Yea Briana literally left as soon as she got there but she still got a chance unlike Derrick/Corey with the Eddie situation 

Does Joss still have a girlfriend?

hes single now Wink

kvm1977 wrote:

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

She also quit her Real World season after less than a month. I love Ashley but I understand why production doesn't wanna give her a full season anymore.Also I agree she should've never agreed to do Dirty 30 in the first place.

Wow...so

She quit the Real World, threatened to walk on Invasion, threatened to walk on Champs vs. Pros, quit XXX....of course she's not being cast.  She's unreliable.

 

kvm1977 wrote:

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

but not everyone realizes how mentally taxing these challenges are until they actually get there. I'm usually not a fan of quitters and she may threaten to quit but I think it was better for her to quit than to have had a Camila type freak out. The luggage was just the icing on the came. And your argument for her wasting a spot isn't that strong when she did get replaced ASAP. Yea Briana literally left as soon as she got there but she still got a chance unlike Derrick/Corey with the Eddie situation 

You're not making sense.  If it was an isolated incident you might have a point but it wasn't.   She ****** production because I assure you Brianna wouldn't have made the original cast.  If you don't underrstand your emotional state well enough to know whether or not to get on the plane then you're helping my argument that production shouldn't cast her

thefatskinnyguy wrote:

Does Joss still have a girlfriend?

hes single now Wink

No wayyyyy yum! He better get some hookup with somebody.

I actually agree with KVM. It's not hard to see why they're being cautious with her...That is IF they actually are.

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

imallergic wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

but not everyone realizes how mentally taxing these challenges are until they actually get there. I'm usually not a fan of quitters and she may threaten to quit but I think it was better for her to quit than to have had a Camila type freak out. The luggage was just the icing on the came. And your argument for her wasting a spot isn't that strong when she did get replaced ASAP. Yea Briana literally left as soon as she got there but she still got a chance unlike Derrick/Corey with the Eddie situation 

You're not making sense.  If it was an isolated incident you might have a point but it wasn't.   She ****** production because I assure you Brianna wouldn't have made the original cast.  If you don't underrstand your emotional state well enough to know whether or not to get on the plane then you're helping my argument that production shouldn't cast her

Actually Brianna was the original replacement for Alicia. But she missed the call & that's how we ended up with Jenna first. 

They still cast Ashley on spin offs and bring her in for short things, it’s clear they like her enough some people don’t even get that. I get where production is coming from with the long seasons. It’s probably just a probation period 

I actually agree with KVM. It's not hard to see why they're being cautious with her...That is IF they actually are.

Right--we can't think of it as "fans".  Think of it as production.  That's 4 times she either quit or threatened to walk.  Why cast her?

And, yes, "if" they are actually being cautious.  

kvm1977 wrote:

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

but not everyone realizes how mentally taxing these challenges are until they actually get there. I'm usually not a fan of quitters and she may threaten to quit but I think it was better for her to quit than to have had a Camila type freak out. The luggage was just the icing on the cake. And your argument for her wasting a spot isn't that strong when she did get replaced ASAP. Yea Briana literally left as soon as she got there but she still got a chance unlike Derrick/Corey with the Eddie situation 

I deadass forgot she ever appeared on that season ****.

If Amanda & Shane didn’t lose the second Invasion bloodbath, they would’ve easily won the season. Since they won the first part, they should’ve been exempt. They better come looking for revenge now.

The Lavender Dolphins alliance >>>>> one of them will win Final Reckoning

kvm1977 wrote:

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
imallergic wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

but not everyone realizes how mentally taxing these challenges are until they actually get there. I'm usually not a fan of quitters and she may threaten to quit but I think it was better for her to quit than to have had a Camila type freak out. The luggage was just the icing on the came. And your argument for her wasting a spot isn't that strong when she did get replaced ASAP. Yea Briana literally left as soon as she got there but she still got a chance unlike Derrick/Corey with the Eddie situation 

You're not making sense.  If it was an isolated incident you might have a point but it wasn't.   She ****** production because I assure you Brianna wouldn't have made the original cast.  If you don't underrstand your emotional state well enough to know whether or not to get on the plane then you're helping my argument that production shouldn't cast her

Actually Brianna was the original replacement for Alicia. But she missed the call & that's how we ended up with Jenna first. 

****. If only Brianna only picked up.

I mean don't get me wrong the girl is useless but I'll take her over Jenna anyday ****.

Debut Album wrote:

I actually agree with KVM. It's not hard to see why they're being cautious with her...That is IF they actually are.

Right--we can't think of it as "fans".  Think of it as production.  That's 4 times she either quit or threatened to walk.  Why cast her?And, yes, "if" they are actually being cautious.  

Yea you're right that production probably is annoyed with her and I hope it's a probationary thing but I just get so mad seeing some lame *** people cast over her and Hunter who are more dynamic characters. 

kvm1977 wrote:

imallergic wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
tdstegall wrote:Ashely did a podcast the other day and said she's worried they're punishing her for quitting.

I mean, she quit for a pathetic reason and she threatened to quit other times.  I like Ashley but if they are she deserves it

pathetic reason? She was completely mentally exhausted from Invasion to filming Champs v Pros then straight to dirty 30 with little time to herself. Plus her dad was sick and her sister had to be put in rehab and then her grandpa passed away. 2017 was rough AF for Legend but her quitting bc she had REAL shit going on is not pathetic. GTFOH 

She made the decision to go knowing all of that then she quit because her luggage didn't arrive.  It was pathetic.  If you have real shit going on then stay the **** home.  Don't get on the plane and take a spot from someone else.  You're also ignoring all the threats to quit that she made.  Invasion and the MiniSeries.  You don't get any respect for returning home to things that already existed.  She made the CHOICE to go and the CHOICE to quit.  If I was casting after that she wouldn't be on the cast.

but not everyone realizes how mentally taxing these challenges are until they actually get there. I'm usually not a fan of quitters and she may threaten to quit but I think it was better for her to quit than to have had a Camila type freak out. The luggage was just the icing on the cake. And your argument for her wasting a spot isn't that strong when she did get replaced ASAP. Yea Briana literally left as soon as she got there but she still got a chance unlike Derrick/Corey with the Eddie situation 

Ashley quit RW season, threatened to quit Invasio and CvP, quit Dirty 30 and left CvS because of family issues so only season she did with no problem was Rivals 3. Her mental health is so unstable and challenge environment is not for her, mental health can't be put under control that fast, plus does she visits psychologist.

The s32 house gives me a Free Agents tease

The true tea is that producers didn’t cast Ashley bc they feared she would beat their prized pets in a finale again 

So Devin didn’t get to go to the redemption house?

You people really want Ashley to reach Tonya/Robin/Camila level. No wonder why most people in the world think mental health and illness is joke when you want to sacrifice someone's health just so you can see them on TV.

The true tea is that producers didn’t cast Ashley bc they feared she would beat their prized pets in a finale again 

Only girl that win a final against Cara. Maybe Kam &  Tori.

You people really want Ashley to reach Tonya/Robin/Camila level. No wonder why most people in the world think mental health and illness is joke when you want to sacrifice someone's health just so you can see them on TV.

You people really want Ashley to reach Tonya/Robin/Camila level. No wonder why most people in the world think mental health and illness is joke when you want to sacrifice someone's health just so you can see them on TV.

And Ashley reached "the danger zone" much faster than those 3

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