So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
Dont waste your time. Anybody who is going to assume they know a persons life and struggles just because they're black and have struggled is a waste of time. I guess every white or gay person lives a life of luxury.
So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely ******* right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
Dont waste your time. Anybody who is going to assume they know a persons life and struggles just because they're black and have struggled is a waste of time. I guess every white or gay person lives a life of luxury.
Did I say any of this? **** did I ever say I've personally struggled? I said you couldn't walk a day in my shoes & that's what the **** I meant.
So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely motherucking right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
This is why I barely come on this site anymore other than to lurk for updates on Kailah and left from all challenge related things. Most of you are idiots
Except I don't have a problem with Nicole, but she classifies herself as a boy, so I will do the same.
THIS! Nicole acts like a man until its convenient to cry like a little girl.
This is what she did to Jason. She was all big and bad like a man, talking like a man then got in his face like a man then when he pinned her to the wall she’s crying how you never touch a girl
This is why I barely come on this site anymore other than to lurk for updates on Kailah and left from all challenge related things. Most of you are idiots
Who asked you to come here? Who even asked you to start posting? You can always go back to lurking or even find another site.
This is what she did to Jason. She was all big and bad like a man, talking like a man then got in his face like a man then when he pinned her to the wall she’s crying how you never touch a girl
Not only Jason but she has done it to Bruno and Tony as well.
Smh not another racism vs homophobia debate. They are BOTH terrible and thinking one is worse than the other does nothing but further it. Life is shit for a lot of people, struggles aren't things to brag about or try and diminish. Calling someone homophobic but bringing up race is counter productive.
This is what she did to Jason. She was all big and bad like a man, talking like a man then got in his face like a man then when he pinned her to the wall she’s crying how you never touch a girl
Not only Jason but she has done it to Bruno and Tony as well.
Really? I always found her to be easy on Tony and Bruno (the white ones) while hard on Jason. He even says this during their big argument near the end of the season when Jason loses it after Nicole keeps making excuses for Tony trying to steal the bottle from the club and getting them kicked out and banned. She kept making excuses for him and Jason had enough of it cause she’s always babying Bruno and Tony while being hard on him.
If if I recall even Sylvia got mad at Nicole for that and backed up Jason.
TobyMartinez34 wrote:So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely motherucking right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
Exactly, so shut that shit up. You know not one thing about this experience in general to try to compare it to a got**** thing & if we want to be technical, there's a bunch of racism within the gay community itself from what I've been told by numerous people I've known over the years so what the **** would you know? Does your sexuality make you uneasy when you have to have any dealings with the police? Do you worry about making it home that night due to your specific skin tone?
This is why I barely come on this site anymore other than to lurk for updates on Kailah and left from all challenge related things. Most of you are idiots
Who asked you to come here? Who even asked you to start posting? You can always go back to lurking or even find another site.
Really? I always found her to be easy on Tony and Bruno (the white ones) while hard on Jason. He even says this during their big argument near the end of the season when Jason loses it after Nicole keeps making excuses for Tony trying to steal the bottle from the club and getting them kicked out and banned. She kept making excuses for him and Jason had enough of it cause she’s always babying Bruno and Tony while being hard on him.
If if I recall even Sylvia got mad at Nicole for that and backed up Jason.
It wasn't serious as it was with Jason but has invaded both of their personal spaces. Nicole needs to learn boundaries when it comes to actual men and maybe she'll get some respect around here.
TobyMartinez34 wrote:So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely motherucking right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
Exactly, so shut that shit up. You know not one thing about this experience in general to try to compare it to a got**** thing & if we want to be technical, there's a bunch of racism within the gay community itself from what I've been told by numerous people I've known over the years so what the **** would you know? Does your sexuality make you uneasy when you have to have any dealings with the police? Do you worry about making it home that night due to your specific skin tone?
yeah I do, I'm ******* Mexican from the slum boroughs of New York. Where shit like that has been going down since I was born but unlike you I can understand many things and issues at 1 time. You're just not intelligent enough or you don't care and if you don't care like I said in the beginning live in your truth
Really? I always found her to be easy on Tony and Bruno (the white ones) while hard on Jason. He even says this during their big argument near the end of the season when Jason loses it after Nicole keeps making excuses for Tony trying to steal the bottle from the club and getting them kicked out and banned. She kept making excuses for him and Jason had enough of it cause she’s always babying Bruno and Tony while being hard on him. If if I recall even Sylvia got mad at Nicole for that and backed up Jason.
It wasn't serious as it was with Jason but has invaded both of their personal spaces. Nicole needs to learn boundaries when it comes to actual men and maybe she'll get some respect around here.
Oh it will take boundaries with men and women. The way she flirts would get many men in trouble if they did that.
Tobey my God you couldn't have chosen a worse way to get yoir point across smh. You're mad about homophobia so you resort to racism? Why? How the actual **** does that help anyone. This is why the gay community and the black community don't get along, pointless shit like this. We need to standtogether not apart.
Tobey my God you couldn't have chosen a worse way to get yoir point across smh. You're mad about homophobia so you resort to racism? Why? How the actual **** does that help anyone. This is why the gay community and the black community don't get along, pointless shit like this. We need to standtogether not apart.
that was never my point my point was that Graphik can understand every nuance about racism but can't understand homophobia at all. My point was loud and clear I have not once been racist to him in this thread
TobyMartinez34 wrote:So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely motherucking right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
Exactly, so shut that shit up. You know not one thing about this experience in general to try to compare it to a got**** thing & if we want to be technical, there's a bunch of racism within the gay community itself from what I've been told by numerous people I've known over the years so what the **** would you know? Does your sexuality make you uneasy when you have to have any dealings with the police? Do you worry about making it home that night due to your specific skin tone?
yeah I do, I'm ******* Mexican from the slum boroughs of New York. Where shit like that has been going down since I was born but unlike you I can understand many things and issues at 1 time. You're just not intelligent enough or you don't care and if you don't care like I said in the beginning live in your truth
And that STILL don't compare; you can cut that shit out. You really think the NYPD out here "stop n' frisking" Mexicans or any number of people other than AA's and darker Dominicans/Nuyoricans? They couldn't care less about your sexuality but I bet they peeped that skin color......when you ancestors were hung from trees & fed to alligators as ******* bait, THEN you might have some leeway from me.
Very much intelligent enough to understand many different perspectives (Vevmo sees only maybe 10% of Graphik), I just don't give a ****. All this shit about calling Nicholas a man but it's crickets when myself & the other AA folks on here speak about how dirty MTV in terms of race.......
Tobey my God you couldn't have chosen a worse way to get yoir point across smh. You're mad about homophobia so you resort to racism? Why? How the actual **** does that help anyone. This is why the gay community and the black community don't get along, pointless shit like this. We need to standtogether not apart.
that was never my point my point was that Graphik can understand every nuance about racism but can't understand homophobia at all. My point was loud and clear I have not once been racist to him in this thread
But see this is some shit you've already assumed & went along with because of my viewpoint. I deal in TRUTH. I don't give a **** about you being gay, straight or whatever the **** you wanna be but what we NOT gonna do is sit here & try to compare this bullshit about ******* Nicole/Nicholas to a centuries-long issue.
TobyMartinez34 wrote:So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely motherucking right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
Exactly, so shut that shit up. You know not one thing about this experience in general to try to compare it to a got**** thing & if we want to be technical, there's a bunch of racism within the gay community itself from what I've been told by numerous people I've known over the years so what the **** would you know? Does your sexuality make you uneasy when you have to have any dealings with the police? Do you worry about making it home that night due to your specific skin tone?
yeah I do, I'm ******* Mexican from the slum boroughs of New York. Where shit like that has been going down since I was born but unlike you I can understand many things and issues at 1 time. You're just not intelligent enough or you don't care and if you don't care like I said in the beginning live in your truth
And that STILL don't compare; you can cut that shit out. You really think the NYPD out here "stop n' frisking" Mexicans or any number of people other than AA's and darker Dominicans/Nuyoricans? They couldn't care less about your sexuality but I bet they peeped that skin color......when you ancestors were hung from trees & fed to alligators as ******* bait, THEN you might have some leeway from me.Very much intelligent enough to understand many different perspectives (Vevmo sees only maybe 10% of Graphik), I just don't give a ****. All this shit about calling Nicholas a man but it's crickets when myself & the other AA folks on here speak about how dirty MTV in terms of race.......
they did stop and frisk Mexicans up and down my block and send you to Rikers with a snap, and your point I'm not debating the struggles of black people im not an idiot and I have eyes I just said you were wrong about me in that quote. And onto the last part is just you trying to be a victim like 2 people have even confronted Vevmo about Nicole. You've had more of a peanut gallery in here agreeing with you than me. You say all these "but when I say this" or all these other bullshit equivalencies just to excuse yourself from any intellectual discussion. It's fraundlent behavior
TobyMartinez34 wrote:So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
You are absolutely motherucking right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
Exactly, so shut that shit up. You know not one thing about this experience in general to try to compare it to a got**** thing & if we want to be technical, there's a bunch of racism within the gay community itself from what I've been told by numerous people I've known over the years so what the **** would you know? Does your sexuality make you uneasy when you have to have any dealings with the police? Do you worry about making it home that night due to your specific skin tone?
yeah I do, I'm ******* Mexican from the slum boroughs of New York. Where shit like that has been going down since I was born but unlike you I can understand many things and issues at 1 time. You're just not intelligent enough or you don't care and if you don't care like I said in the beginning live in your truth
And that STILL don't compare; you can cut that shit out. You really think the NYPD out here "stop n' frisking" Mexicans or any number of people other than AA's and darker Dominicans/Nuyoricans? They couldn't care less about your sexuality but I bet they peeped that skin color......when you ancestors were hung from trees & fed to alligators as ******* bait, THEN you might have some leeway from me.Very much intelligent enough to understand many different perspectives (Vevmo sees only maybe 10% of Graphik), I just don't give a ****. All this shit about calling Nicholas a man but it's crickets when myself & the other AA folks on here speak about how dirty MTV in terms of race.......
they did stop and frisk Mexicans up and down my block and send you to Rikers with a snap, and your point I'm not debating the struggles of black people im not an idiot and I have eyes I just said you were wrong about me in that quote. And onto the last part is just you trying to be a victim like 2 people have even confronted Vevmo about Nicole. You've had more of a peanut gallery in here agreeing with you than me. You say all these "but when I say this" or all these other bullshit equivalencies just to excuse yourself from any intellectual discussion. It's fraundlent behavior
***** you weren't coming from no "intellectual discussion" line of thinking in the first place, YOU started the whole "so if I call one of the AA girls a name that ends in "quisha" or whatever then that's fine since you call Nicole a man" and I told you I didn't give a ****. **** outta here with now trying to act like you were now trying to have a "civil discussion" because you're looking stupid.
Morris is always somewhere whining about Nicole and why nobody gives a **** about her or him & as you see, nobody cares. YOU brought race into it so now this is when I come out my bag.
So because we're not black suddenly we can't last in your world? You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time because your lackluster faves can't get casted and sometimes you have a point I can see that. You can't see that youre ignorant and think the only plight is your plight. Until Nicole says "I am Nicole, I am a Man, call me a man, I am a he, I'm on the guys side of the competition" because the last thing she's said about her gender was on the rock where she said "being the first GIRL up here feels good". that's it
Dont waste your time. Anybody who is going to assume they know a persons life and struggles just because they're black and have struggled is a waste of time. I guess every white or gay person lives a life of luxury.
Kailah is lucky Brooke didn't have time to put her hands on her worthless ***. But Kam not so much.
You are absolutely ******* right *****, you couldn't last a DAY in these shoes while you want to try & compare the centuries-long issue of racism to this bullshit about Nicholas. I talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about; I'm certainly not no **** zombie dancing around issues & scared to speak my mind as a melanin-rich person. This ain't Leroy over here......I always peep game & you're **** right I'm going to speak on it. **** you thought this was?
Did I say any of this? **** did I ever say I've personally struggled? I said you couldn't walk a day in my shoes & that's what the **** I meant.
again your plight is the only plight, you only want to speak. Maybe spend more time reading a book and your mind could wrap around more than 1 systemic issue at one time. This stubbornness is why gay black people don't even feel welcome in your own community. I don't have a drop of black in me but even I can see that from where I'm from
THIS! Nicole acts like a man until its convenient to cry like a little girl.
This is why I barely come on this site anymore other than to lurk for updates on Kailah and left from all challenge related things. Most of you are idiots
This is what she did to Jason. She was all big and bad like a man, talking like a man then got in his face like a man then when he pinned her to the wall she’s crying how you never touch a girl
Who asked you to come here? Who even asked you to start posting? You can always go back to lurking or even find another site.
Not only Jason but she has done it to Bruno and Tony as well.
Smh not another racism vs homophobia debate. They are BOTH terrible and thinking one is worse than the other does nothing but further it. Life is shit for a lot of people, struggles aren't things to brag about or try and diminish. Calling someone homophobic but bringing up race is counter productive.
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Really? I always found her to be easy on Tony and Bruno (the white ones) while hard on Jason. He even says this during their big argument near the end of the season when Jason loses it after Nicole keeps making excuses for Tony trying to steal the bottle from the club and getting them kicked out and banned. She kept making excuses for him and Jason had enough of it cause she’s always babying Bruno and Tony while being hard on him.
If if I recall even Sylvia got mad at Nicole for that and backed up Jason.
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Exactly, so shut that shit up. You know not one thing about this experience in general to try to compare it to a got**** thing & if we want to be technical, there's a bunch of racism within the gay community itself from what I've been told by numerous people I've known over the years so what the **** would you know? Does your sexuality make you uneasy when you have to have any dealings with the police? Do you worry about making it home that night due to your specific skin tone?
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King was scalping Mancole.
It wasn't serious as it was with Jason but has invaded both of their personal spaces. Nicole needs to learn boundaries when it comes to actual men and maybe she'll get some respect around here.
yeah I do, I'm ******* Mexican from the slum boroughs of New York. Where shit like that has been going down since I was born but unlike you I can understand many things and issues at 1 time. You're just not intelligent enough or you don't care and if you don't care like I said in the beginning live in your truth
Oh it will take boundaries with men and women. The way she flirts would get many men in trouble if they did that.
"You want to sit on this website and ***** and moan about racism all the time"
It's always "*****ing & moaning" when it comes to this specific topic but let Trash have said something nasty to Ammo instead of Leroy........
Tobey my God you couldn't have chosen a worse way to get yoir point across smh. You're mad about homophobia so you resort to racism? Why? How the actual **** does that help anyone. This is why the gay community and the black community don't get along, pointless shit like this. We need to standtogether not apart.
that was never my point my point was that Graphik can understand every nuance about racism but can't understand homophobia at all. My point was loud and clear I have not once been racist to him in this thread
And that STILL don't compare; you can cut that shit out. You really think the NYPD out here "stop n' frisking" Mexicans or any number of people other than AA's and darker Dominicans/Nuyoricans? They couldn't care less about your sexuality but I bet they peeped that skin color......when you ancestors were hung from trees & fed to alligators as ******* bait, THEN you might have some leeway from me.
Very much intelligent enough to understand many different perspectives (Vevmo sees only maybe 10% of Graphik), I just don't give a ****. All this shit about calling Nicholas a man but it's crickets when myself & the other AA folks on here speak about how dirty MTV in terms of race.......
But see this is some shit you've already assumed & went along with because of my viewpoint. I deal in TRUTH. I don't give a **** about you being gay, straight or whatever the **** you wanna be but what we NOT gonna do is sit here & try to compare this bullshit about ******* Nicole/Nicholas to a centuries-long issue.
they did stop and frisk Mexicans up and down my block and send you to Rikers with a snap, and your point I'm not debating the struggles of black people im not an idiot and I have eyes I just said you were wrong about me in that quote. And onto the last part is just you trying to be a victim like 2 people have even confronted Vevmo about Nicole. You've had more of a peanut gallery in here agreeing with you than me. You say all these "but when I say this" or all these other bullshit equivalencies just to excuse yourself from any intellectual discussion. It's fraundlent behavior
Calling people Idiots yet bringing up Racsim/Homophobia in a conversation it didn't need to be in....
You kids still going about this?
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***** you weren't coming from no "intellectual discussion" line of thinking in the first place, YOU started the whole "so if I call one of the AA girls a name that ends in "quisha" or whatever then that's fine since you call Nicole a man" and I told you I didn't give a ****. **** outta here with now trying to act like you were now trying to have a "civil discussion" because you're looking stupid.
Morris is always somewhere whining about Nicole and why nobody gives a **** about her or him & as you see, nobody cares. YOU brought race into it so now this is when I come out my bag.
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