They're ******* dumb *****, would've voted Cara Maria in and let Laurel destroy her *** again. They would've got rid at least 1 of the strongest girls in the house, either Cara or Kam.
Keeping Britni in the game was a better choice she ain't winning nothing, final challenge included.
pandawho wrote:Devin's teams were dumb, if I wanted cara and Leroy to go in... I would've put them on my team and sabotaged them. And made sure my other members were on the winning team and possibly in the troika. That's how to control the game.
I agree. That would have been my first thought. Make a team of Devin, Nelson, Britini, Cara and Leroy and make sure you lose and have the numbers to put them in. Only thing is I don't think Devin 100% trusted whoever else actually won would protect him and his people.
The best team for Devin would have been himself, Nelson, Leroy, Kailah and Cara. They have a great shot at winning and if they somehow lose, Cara and Leroy go in.
I think his main plan was to get Leroy and Cara in so if he put them on his team he was throwing it.
Best way to get Leroy and CM in would've been Leroy, Cara, Jemmye, Britni on one team. Leroy automatically goes in, Jemmye and Britni are tight and would vote together. Even if it tied, the troika would choose CM.
I do feel like Britni and CM are tighter but I agree witht his team formation. I would've done
That way Cara and Leroy lose, Brad/Nelson, Britni/Kam and Zach are in the troika and will probably vote in Natalie/Nicole and Kyle. The only issue is where does Tony lie? Does he want to win the final or work for it?
Laurel is psychotic, and I think the reason she hates Cara is cause she knows Nicole always preferred Cara before her.
I don’t think it’s about Nicole. Laurel has always hated Cara. Even when they were “friends” she couldn’t hide her disdain for her and acted like she was making her a favour by associating with her. The Nicole thing just gave her an excuse to stop pretending she liked her and let her finally show her true colours. She even admitted she had barely tolerated Cara up until that point and that she believed “they weren’t on the same level.”
Laurel is psychotic, and I think the reason she hates Cara is cause she knows Nicole always preferred Cara before her.
I don’t think it’s about Nicole. Laurel has always hated Cara. Even when they were “friends” she couldn’t hide her disdain for her and acted like she was making her a favour by associating with her. The Nicole thing just gave her an excuse to stop pretending she liked her and let her finally show her true colours. She even admitted she had barely tolerated Cara up until that point and that she believed “they weren’t on the same level.”
Sounds like they were never freinds in the first place.
-Never thought I would be liking both Zach and Tony. But I am this season.
-Did Leroy say Devin is his vendetta now because he sent Bananas home? Ugh.
-This episode being named after Britni was crazy. Cause she didn't even snap off for being voted in. So that was pointless
-Natalie lowkey playing a stupid game. She shows she can't be trusted at all. She needs to keep some kind of alliance but she doesn't.
-FRAAAANNNNKKKKKK. I've missed him, didnt realize how much I missed him on these shows.
-TJ lowkey snatched Britni. When he said "i'm sorry" I cracked up. TJ already knew her *** was going home.
-I'm happy Kam won. It's actually annoying that they keep voting her in, for really no reason. She's already proved herself.
-Baaabyyyy King Nelson did the damn thing. Idc if it was a draw. He held off Darrell. I thought it was a good elimination. But I have a problem, why the **** wasn't King Joss given a draw? This whole making up rules as we go along in the game is some bullshit.
why the **** wasn't King Joss given a draw? This whole making up rules as we go along in the game is some bullshit.
THIS. They really were looking for any excuse to keep Nelson around. Such BS
lololol nelson is not a fan favorite. This is not leroy who they let stay after he died in the water but sent home sylvia because she was sick even though they both spent the same amount of time in the hospital she said on twitter today. Production does not give a **** about nelson.
Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Oh and Tony said he and bananas went at it or something on the aftershow because of the move he made lol. I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
He is playing a survivor or big brother one off game though burning all these bridges. It is great in a 1 season vacuum but I worry about his chances on future seasons.
-I'm happy Kam won. It's actually annoying that they keep voting her in, for really no reason. She's already proved herself.
At that point she went in one elimination vs. Tori and has been subpar to average on missions. How was she proven? Just saying it's pretty typical to get thrown in your rookie season more than once.
-Baaabyyyy King Nelson did the damn thing. Idc if it was a draw. He held off Darrell. I thought it was a good elimination. But I have a problem, why the **** wasn't King Joss given a draw? This whole making up rules as we go along in the game is some bullshit.
Agreed. Tbh I don't think Joss would've lost any type of physical/endurance elimination, and he definitely was winning that final. Robbed King.
Why people so mad about this draw lmaooooo that was an excellent outcome.
True. Nelson stays and Darrell keeps his rep. What's the problem?
Only problem is the inconsistency. Don't make one competitor go 90 minutes and 40+ rounds, and then let the other go 60 minutes and call it a draw. Oh, and apparently Britni wasn't given the same opportunity to get the draw. Not fair to pick and choose who gets special treatment.
They probably did a tie BECAUSE of the Joss and Derrick elimination honestly.
laurel on twitter said they did a draw because it went 10 rounds and was over a hour and a half easily. They were there to 3 in the morning and none of them were moving at all closer to the bell. I guess if someone showed like they were making any headway they would of let it go on. I hate it was a draw because a elimination that grueling deserves a winner but it is what it is. They would of figured something out if it was brad vs nelly and not vs a mercenary.
Fan question: "How hard was it to backstab bananas?"Tony: "Y'all to be honest... I don't give a ****** wanna know more about their interaction I can see Bananas really left a sour taste on him after whatever altercation they had after filming.
Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final.
Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Tbone wrote:Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final. Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Exactly and they wanted Britni in to hurt Brad's game...thinking maybe if Britni loses then Brad will mentally check out.
Tbone wrote:Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final. Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Not Zach, this was about Devin, Tony and the others. Stack your team with people who would vote them in, throw the challenge and put them in, and you know Tony would say Cara's or Leroy's name if Kailah or Devin told him to. They chickened out now when they had all power to put both of them in and choose who would go against them like Brad and Kam who would have chance.
Tbone wrote:Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final. Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Not Zach, this was about Devin, Tony and the others. Stack your team with people who would vote them in, throw the challenge and put them in, and you know Tony would say Cara's or Leroy's name if Kailah or Devin told him to. They chickened out now when they had all power to put both of them in and choose who would go against them like Brad and Kam who would have chance.
Devin shouldn't have picked the teams. He should have made a deal with the Troika to set up a fall team, then used his Grenade to tie one of them up, guaranteeing they lose.
Tbone wrote:Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final. Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Not Zach, this was about Devin, Tony and the others. Stack your team with people who would vote them in, throw the challenge and put them in, and you know Tony would say Cara's or Leroy's name if Kailah or Devin told him to. They chickened out now when they had all power to put both of them in and choose who would go against them like Brad and Kam who would have chance.
Honestly don't think Devin's strategy was bad. On paper, the blue team should've lost easily: Worst girl, and one player down. They probably would have to break tie votes, and could've picked Leroy and Cara. Kyle came through more than Brad and Nelson at the end of the day.
I feel like throwing Challenges always bites you in the *** eventually. Producers don't like it, TJ calls you out for it, viewers don't like it, etc.
Tbone wrote:Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final. Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Not Zach, this was about Devin, Tony and the others. Stack your team with people who would vote them in, throw the challenge and put them in, and you know Tony would say Cara's or Leroy's name if Kailah or Devin told him to. They chickened out now when they had all power to put both of them in and choose who would go against them like Brad and Kam who would have chance.
Honestly don't think Devin's strategy was bad. On paper, the blue team should've lost easily: Worst girl, and one player down. They probably would have to break tie votes, and could've picked Leroy and Cara. Kyle came through more than Brad and Nelson at the end of the day.I feel like throwing Challenges always bites you in the *** eventually. Producers don't like it, TJ calls you out for it, viewers don't like it, etc.
Well they did it this season and last season also, you can throw mission without being obvious. Devin stacked his team with wrong people; he put Zach, Tony, Nicole and Natalie on the same team and you know Zach would say Nelson's name, Tony would follow as follower he is and then you have fake Natalie. Then they wouldn't be a tie vote fot the girls when Kyle would say Jemmye, only Cara's vote for the male side whould be 50/50 at that moment.
3rd season in a row they play messy game and can't form proper alliance beacuse they always throw one another under the bus and can't make good strategy. Look how vets picked them one by one using format as advantage.
the.trillest wrote:why the **** wasn't King Joss given a draw? This whole making up rules as we go along in the game is some bullshit.
THIS. They really were looking for any excuse to keep Nelson around. Such BS
lololol nelson is not a fan favorite. This is not leroy who they let stay after he died in the water but sent home sylvia because she was sick even though they both spent the same amount of time in the hospital she said on twitter today. Production does not give a **** about nelson.
She had pneumonia and shouldn't be around the rest of cast. I can't blame production for that...
Oh and Tony said he and bananas went at it or something on the aftershow because of the move he made lol. I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
He is playing a survivor or big brother one off game though burning all these bridges. It is great in a 1 season vacuum but I worry about his chances on future seasons.
Graphik wrote:Why people so mad about this draw lmaooooo that was an excellent outcome.
True. Nelson stays and Darrell keeps his rep. What's the problem?
Only problem is the inconsistency. Don't make one competitor go 90 minutes and 40+ rounds, and then let the other go 60 minutes and call it a draw. Oh, and apparently Britni wasn't given the same opportunity to get the draw. Not fair to pick and choose who gets special treatment.
This isn't unprecedented. Cara and Nia had a brutal tug-of-war (or whatever you call it) elimination battle on Free Agents in which Nia got hurt pretty bad. When they did that same elimination later in the season (Theresa vs. Camila and Jordan vs. Swift) they added the pole to grab to make the elimination shorter and prevent injury. Sucks for Joss, but after watching Joss vs. Derrick perhaps it was like Debut said and they decided that a draw was better than getting one of the two ****** up like Joss was at the end. It's something to consider.
They're ******* dumb *****, would've voted Cara Maria in and let Laurel destroy her *** again. They would've got rid at least 1 of the strongest girls in the house, either Cara or Kam.
Keeping Britni in the game was a better choice she ain't winning nothing, final challenge included.
I don't understand what Nelzzzon expected Natalie to do? He knew damn well Natalie wasn't going to be able to stop Tony & Zach from voting him in.
This is why no one wants to align with his *******.
I do feel like Britni and CM are tighter but I agree witht his team formation. I would've done
Devin, Leroy, Cara, Kailah, Tony. /Brad, Kam, Zach, Britni, Nelson/Jemmye, Nicole, Natalie, Kyle.
That way Cara and Leroy lose, Brad/Nelson, Britni/Kam and Zach are in the troika and will probably vote in Natalie/Nicole and Kyle. The only issue is where does Tony lie? Does he want to win the final or work for it?
I don’t think it’s about Nicole. Laurel has always hated Cara. Even when they were “friends” she couldn’t hide her disdain for her and acted like she was making her a favour by associating with her. The Nicole thing just gave her an excuse to stop pretending she liked her and let her finally show her true colours. She even admitted she had barely tolerated Cara up until that point and that she believed “they weren’t on the same level.”
Sounds like they were never freinds in the first place.
-Never thought I would be liking both Zach and Tony. But I am this season.
-Did Leroy say Devin is his vendetta now because he sent Bananas home? Ugh.
-This episode being named after Britni was crazy. Cause she didn't even snap off for being voted in. So that was pointless
-Natalie lowkey playing a stupid game. She shows she can't be trusted at all. She needs to keep some kind of alliance but she doesn't.
-FRAAAANNNNKKKKKK. I've missed him, didnt realize how much I missed him on these shows.
-TJ lowkey snatched Britni. When he said "i'm sorry" I cracked up. TJ already knew her *** was going home.
-I'm happy Kam won. It's actually annoying that they keep voting her in, for really no reason. She's already proved herself.
-Baaabyyyy King Nelson did the damn thing. Idc if it was a draw. He held off Darrell. I thought it was a good elimination. But I have a problem, why the **** wasn't King Joss given a draw? This whole making up rules as we go along in the game is some bullshit.
THIS. They really were looking for any excuse to keep Nelson around. Such BS
lololol nelson is not a fan favorite. This is not leroy who they let stay after he died in the water but sent home sylvia because she was sick even though they both spent the same amount of time in the hospital she said on twitter today. Production does not give a **** about nelson.
Oh and on the aftershow, Tony said he and bananas went at it or something after filming because of the move he made lol. "You really mad bananas?" I ******* LOVE Tony's IDGAF attitude during the aftershow towards bananas and Buckwild it was everything >>>
He is playing a survivor or big brother one off game though burning all these bridges. It is great in a 1 season vacuum but I worry about his chances on future seasons.
Why people so mad about this draw lmaooooo that was an excellent outcome.
They probably did a tie BECAUSE of the Joss and Derrick elimination honestly.
True. Nelson stays and Darrell keeps his rep. What's the problem?
At that point she went in one elimination vs. Tori and has been subpar to average on missions. How was she proven? Just saying it's pretty typical to get thrown in your rookie season more than once.
Agreed. Tbh I don't think Joss would've lost any type of physical/endurance elimination, and he definitely was winning that final. Robbed King.
Only problem is the inconsistency. Don't make one competitor go 90 minutes and 40+ rounds, and then let the other go 60 minutes and call it a draw. Oh, and apparently Britni wasn't given the same opportunity to get the draw. Not fair to pick and choose who gets special treatment.
Fan question: "How hard was it to backstab bananas?"
Tony: "Y'all to be honest... I don't give a ****!"
I wanna know more about their interaction I can see Bananas really left a sour taste on him after whatever altercation they had after filming.
laurel on twitter said they did a draw because it went 10 rounds and was over a hour and a half easily. They were there to 3 in the morning and none of them were moving at all closer to the bell. I guess if someone showed like they were making any headway they would of let it go on. I hate it was a draw because a elimination that grueling deserves a winner but it is what it is. They would of figured something out if it was brad vs nelly and not vs a mercenary.
i’m glad Nelson got to stay. I wanted him to. Just wish Joss could’ve too when he did his.
LEGEND TONY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Not you lmaooo I knew what you were saying. I was just saying in general due to seeing the usual BS on social media & other places:
"Production rigged it so Nelson could stay"
Or
"Production saw that Nelson was about to beat Darrell so they called a draw"
Yes but him and others are terrible in strategy and politics, and this episode proved it once again. Their strategy and politics is so bad and only reason they had this kind of power was troika where you could pick who was gonna be in it. They had all power to directly put Cara and Leroy in elimination and they didn't; plus they have no loyalty, most of them shift where is power, they grow pair of balls only when they are encouraged by others, etc.
Why would Tony and Zach (who were going to vote together regardless) want to get rid of Cara? Zach and Cara are working together and Tony and her are on good terms, and she'll only help them in a final.
Nelson and Leroy is a toss up. Nelson has proven to be a beast in eliminations just like Leroy is, but Nelson is a better overall competitor for a final. Leroy will drown if there's any swimming, which there almost always is, and sucks at puzzles too.
Exactly and they wanted Britni in to hurt Brad's game...thinking maybe if Britni loses then Brad will mentally check out.
Not Zach, this was about Devin, Tony and the others. Stack your team with people who would vote them in, throw the challenge and put them in, and you know Tony would say Cara's or Leroy's name if Kailah or Devin told him to. They chickened out now when they had all power to put both of them in and choose who would go against them like Brad and Kam who would have chance.
Devin shouldn't have picked the teams. He should have made a deal with the Troika to set up a fall team, then used his Grenade to tie one of them up, guaranteeing they lose.
Honestly don't think Devin's strategy was bad. On paper, the blue team should've lost easily: Worst girl, and one player down. They probably would have to break tie votes, and could've picked Leroy and Cara. Kyle came through more than Brad and Nelson at the end of the day.
I feel like throwing Challenges always bites you in the *** eventually. Producers don't like it, TJ calls you out for it, viewers don't like it, etc.
Well they did it this season and last season also, you can throw mission without being obvious. Devin stacked his team with wrong people; he put Zach, Tony, Nicole and Natalie on the same team and you know Zach would say Nelson's name, Tony would follow as follower he is and then you have fake Natalie. Then they wouldn't be a tie vote fot the girls when Kyle would say Jemmye, only Cara's vote for the male side whould be 50/50 at that moment.
3rd season in a row they play messy game and can't form proper alliance beacuse they always throw one another under the bus and can't make good strategy. Look how vets picked them one by one using format as advantage.
She had pneumonia and shouldn't be around the rest of cast. I can't blame production for that...
Indeed..
This isn't unprecedented. Cara and Nia had a brutal tug-of-war (or whatever you call it) elimination battle on Free Agents in which Nia got hurt pretty bad. When they did that same elimination later in the season (Theresa vs. Camila and Jordan vs. Swift) they added the pole to grab to make the elimination shorter and prevent injury. Sucks for Joss, but after watching Joss vs. Derrick perhaps it was like Debut said and they decided that a draw was better than getting one of the two ****** up like Joss was at the end. It's something to consider.
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