The Challenge: Vendettas (Season 31) - Spoilers Discussion

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The fact Cara struggled against ******* Jessica shows she's not elite 

My elite list would be Laurel, Evelyn, Emily, Sarah, Paula and Camila.

Paula is probably the best partner for a final. Laurel is probably the best for a regular mission. Sarah for a puzzle/swimming mission. Camila for something with endurance, heights or swimming. Emily would be the best choice for any physical elimination. Evelyn is probably the most well rounded so anything that doesnt include brute strength.

I may not like cara but she be ******* up thise eliminations. 

Wes is not elite at elimations...hasn't been in  a long time.   Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick and Nelson are the people that would scare me in an elimination.  Unless it's a puzzle--then only Alton could win.  Jordan would worry me as well.

The fact Cara struggled against ******* Jessica shows she's not elite 

Weight plays a huuge factor. Its why Aneesa almost beat Laurel.

I made a large breakout of the tiers in the generic thread back in may.  I don't want to continue to go off topic but I broke it out with 5 in tier 1, and around 10 in tier 2.  Looking  back, I would keep tier 1 but I know some will disagree with people like Coral and Jillian in there over Susie (had her in tier 3)

These arent in order. 

Tier 1 – Emily Bailey, Evelyn, Laurel, Emily Schrom, Rachel  - Top 5 for sure. 

Tier 2 – Cooke, Jodi,  Holly Shand, Cara Maria, Camila, Theresa, Sarah Rice , Paula, Jillian , Coral 

I wanted to put Paula in there but idk

Yeah agreed... a lot of the eliminations are crapshoots. Anyone can screw up.  I look at overall performance when basing it on elite. A loss here or there for a challenger doesnt break them from their tier in my eyes

I think that each elimination is a crap shoot, but with a large enough of a sample size, I think it paints a valid picture. I mean Cara Maria is 12-5 in eliminations, with 4 of those losses coming to Laurel (2), Emily, and Sarah. I don't know anything about eliminations in Vendettas, but since Cara made the final, she can only add to that record there.  She is good at eliminations, and I'd say that she's pretty good at finals. She may not be elite (ie top 5 of all time) but she's pretty ******* good. Only a few people (and even fewer active/regular) challengers are better than her. And there have been a large number of competitors to come through the chute. 

I remember looking at Bananas elimination record a while ago and he was like 7-9 or some shit. lol

 

My elite list would be Laurel, Evelyn, Emily, Sarah, Paula and Camila.Paula is probably the best partner for a final. Laurel is probably the best for a regular mission. Sarah for a puzzle/swimming mission. Camila for something with endurance, heights or swimming. Emily would be the best choice for any physical elimination. Evelyn is probably the most well rounded so anything that doesnt include brute strength.
 
Paula is great for a final but far from elite.  I'd take Jenn on my team over Paula any day.  Jenn has been screwed horribly with teams and partners in fianls.  Give Jenn Evelyn and Emily S and she has two wins.

My elite list would be Laurel, Evelyn, Emily, Sarah, Paula and Camila.Paula is probably the best partner for a final. Laurel is probably the best for a regular mission. Sarah for a puzzle/swimming mission. Camila for something with endurance, heights or swimming. Emily would be the best choice for any physical elimination. Evelyn is probably the most well rounded so anything that doesnt include brute strength.

I consider Paula high on my list too. Like her or not, Shes pretty much game for any type of competition. 

The list was fire until I saw Theresa. If you put her you might as well put anessa or jenn

My elite list would be Laurel, Evelyn, Emily, Sarah, Paula and Camila.Paula is probably the best partner for a final. Laurel is probably the best for a regular mission. Sarah for a puzzle/swimming mission. Camila for something with endurance, heights or swimming. Emily would be the best choice for any physical elimination. Evelyn is probably the most well rounded so anything that doesnt include brute strength.

Camila had a mini breakdown during this past final on the mountain climb, and she freaked out during one of the heights challenges before they even started, so I wouldn't involve her with heights. 

Wes is not elite at elimations...hasn't been in  a long time.   Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick and Nelson are the people that would scare me in an elimination.  Unless it's a puzzle--then only Alton could win.  Jordan would worry me as well.

Wes is 13-6, and I think that's not counting his 3-0 in Champs vs. Pros. I mean yeah, Landon and Alton are at the top, I won't argue that, but that's borderline haterade. Wes even beat Derrick in the Duel.  (and Jordan in C vs. P) Derrick is like 8-4 overall. Darrell was like 5-2 if I remember correctly. 

I made a large breakout of the tiers in the generic thread back in may.  I don't want to continue to go off topic but I broke it out with 5 in tier 1, and around 10 in tier 2.  Looking  back, I would keep tier 1 but I know some will disagree with people like Coral and Jillian in there over Susie (had her in tier 3)These arent in order. Tier 1 – Emily Bailey, Evelyn, Laurel, Emily Schrom, Rachel  - Top 5 for sure. Tier 2 – Cooke, Jodi,  Holly Shand, Cara Maria, Camila, Theresa, Sarah Rice , Paula, Jillian , Coral 

I have more levels but I agree with the names.   I still wish we caw Cooke more

1:  Evelyn, Laurel, Emily S & Holly S

2:  Emily B, Rachel, Jodi & probably Sarah (sigh)

3.  Cara Maria, Coral, Theresa & Camila

4.  Paula, Jenn, Jillian, Veronica, Susie, Cooke (who I need to see one more time) & Ellen (who I would like to see one more time as well)

Holly B/P should probably be in here somewhere as well

Paula ***** 

kvm1977 wrote:

Wes is not elite at elimations...hasn't been in  a long time.   Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick and Nelson are the people that would scare me in an elimination.  Unless it's a puzzle--then only Alton could win.  Jordan would worry me as well.

Wes is 13-6, and I think that's not counting his 3-0 in Champs vs. Pros. I mean yeah, Landon and Alton are at the top, I won't argue that, but that's borderline haterade. Wes even beat Derrick in the Duel.  (and Jordan in C vs. P) Derrick is like 8-4 overall. Darrell was like 5-2 if I remember correctly. 

You're counting partner elimination--I don't.  The exiles on Fresh Meat were a joke--Wes would have gone home first if they had to finish the puzzles.  I like Wes and would like him back but he wouldn't scare me in an elimaination.  Didn't CT beat Jordan in that elimination  Smile

Challenge 17 wrote:

The fact Cara struggled against ******* Jessica shows she's not elite 

Weight plays a huuge factor. Its why Aneesa almost beat Laurel.

It's not all about that, Cara looked pathetic in that elimination, Jessica isn't big, let's not pretend she's someone like Nia or aneesa that has a size advantage. 

 
InternationalFan wrote:

My elite list would be Laurel, Evelyn, Emily, Sarah, Paula and Camila.Paula is probably the best partner for a final. Laurel is probably the best for a regular mission. Sarah for a puzzle/swimming mission. Camila for something with endurance, heights or swimming. Emily would be the best choice for any physical elimination. Evelyn is probably the most well rounded so anything that doesnt include brute strength.

 Paula is great for a final but far from elite.  I'd take Jenn on my team over Paula any day.  Jenn has been screwed horribly with teams and partners in fianls.  Give Jenn Evelyn and Emily S and she has two wins.

There is not one female who embodies everything so technically none of them are elite. The ones i consider elite are the ones that are the top for the important stuff or are atleast well rounded enough to get far almost every time.

Jenn is another good choice for a final but imo Paula is just better. Also Jenn did have Emily S and they came  in 3rd ....

There must be another Theresa that I don’t know about. Cause the Theresa I know is not even top 20 females nonetheless 2nd tier

I do have high hopes for Ashley Mitchell and Tori (no idea what her last name is XXX season) of being highly thought of if they come back a few more times.

Wes is not elite at elimations...hasn't been in  a long time.   Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick and Nelson are the people that would scare me in an elimination.  Unless it's a puzzle--then only Alton could win.  Jordan would worry me as well.

I WANT TO SEE ****** JORDAN IN A 1 on 1 PHYSICAL ELIMINATION!!!!!! He has been extremely lucky so far the only physical elimination that was 1 on 1 so far he has ever had was against ****** ammo!!! I think he has a major weakness and it is brute strength. I want to see him against a powerful guy in balls in, pole wrestle and hall brawl. The closest we got was the 2 vs 2 hall brawl on rivals 2. Marlon did most of the work in my eyes and gets the credit for that win as does TY being a ****** *******.

kvm1977 wrote:

 

InternationalFan wrote:My elite list would be Laurel, Evelyn, Emily, Sarah, Paula and Camila.Paula is probably the best partner for a final. Laurel is probably the best for a regular mission. Sarah for a puzzle/swimming mission. Camila for something with endurance, heights or swimming. Emily would be the best choice for any physical elimination. Evelyn is probably the most well rounded so anything that doesnt include brute strength.

 Paula is great for a final but far from elite.  I'd take Jenn on my team over Paula any day.  Jenn has been screwed horribly with teams and partners in fianls.  Give Jenn Evelyn and Emily S and she has two wins.

There is not one female who embodies everything so technically none of them are elite. The ones i consider elite are the ones that are the top for the important stuff or are atleast well rounded enough to get far almost every time.Jenn is another good choice for a final but imo Paula is just better. Also Jenn did have Emily S and they came  in 3rd ....

Jenn had Emily S in a final against teams with guys and one that Emily S will fully admit she wasn't ready for.  Jenn was destroying that final.  Give Jenn Evelyn as a partner in Rivals I and she wins.

I'd take Jenn or Jillian for a final over Paula  but that's because they can help with things other than just endurance  Smile

Cara smokes Susie, get real.

kvm1977 wrote:

Wes is not elite at elimations...hasn't been in  a long time.   Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick and Nelson are the people that would scare me in an elimination.  Unless it's a puzzle--then only Alton could win.  Jordan would worry me as well.

I WANT TO SEE ****** JORDAN IN A 1 on 1 PHYSICAL ELIMINATION!!!!!! He has been extremely lucky so far the only physical elimination that was 1 on 1 so far he has ever had was against ****** ammo!!! I think he has a major weakness and it is brute strength. I want to see him against a powerful guy in balls in, pole wrestle and hall brawl. The closest we got was the 2 vs 2 hall brawl on rivals 2. Marlon did most of the work in my eyes and gets the credit for that win as does TY being a ****** *******.

yea if Leroy was in Ty's position they would have won easy

I have more levels but I agree with the names.   I still wish we caw Cooke more1:  Evelyn, Laurel, Emily S & Holly S2:  Emily B, Rachel, Jodi & probably Sarah (sigh)3.  Cara Maria, Coral, Theresa & Camila4.  Paula, Jenn, Jillian, Veronica, Susie, Cooke (who I need to see one more time) & Ellen (who I would like to see one more time as well)Holly B/P should probably be in here somewhere as well

I'd make a handful of changes, but I respect the thought process. 

Jenn has shitty luck for finals, fresh meat 2 having an exile within the day of the final, cutthroat just Emily and rivals with the weakest girl in the final plus food poisoning 

InternationalFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:The fact Cara struggled against ******* Jessica shows she's not elite 

Weight plays a huuge factor. Its why Aneesa almost beat Laurel.

It's not all about that, Cara looked pathetic in that elimination, Jessica isn't big, let's not pretend she's someone like Nia or aneesa that has a size advantage. 

Funny that you mentioned 2 people that Cara beat lol. Jessica isnt huge but she was definitely heavier. But i get what you mean. For some reason Cara always has the worst strategy in Balls in.

 

There must be another Theresa that I don't know about. Cause the Theresa I know is not even top 20 females nonetheless 2nd tier
 
Theresa is a legit athlete.   Look at her losses and her partners--she's done extremley well.  ******* Tina threw that comp to Tori.  She was stuck with Ryan and Jasmine.  She lost with Camila to Laurel.  She lost a puzzle to Laurel at the end of Free Agents.  How is she not in the disscussion?  To be honest, the only people that are better athletes are probably Evelyn and Cooke...maybe Jillian

kvm1977 wrote:

Wes is not elite at elimations...hasn't been in  a long time.   Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick and Nelson are the people that would scare me in an elimination.  Unless it's a puzzle--then only Alton could win.  Jordan would worry me as well.

I WANT TO SEE ****** JORDAN IN A 1 on 1 PHYSICAL ELIMINATION!!!!!! He has been extremely lucky so far the only physical elimination that was 1 on 1 so far he has ever had was against ****** ammo!!! I think he has a major weakness and it is brute strength. I want to see him against a powerful guy in balls in, pole wrestle and hall brawl. The closest we got was the 2 vs 2 hall brawl on rivals 2. Marlon did most of the work in my eyes and gets the credit for that win as does TY being a ****** *******.

Jordan likely CAN'T do pole wrestle lol

 

Cara smokes Susie, get real.
Physically yes
Strategically no...Susie, Emily B, Veronica & Coral are the elite strategists.

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