kvm1977 wrote:To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
But under who's standards? Emily B, the Holly's and Jodi all competed in an era were the challenges were not to this extreme extent as it is now. ( Also Jodi got frazzled far too often under pressure to be taken seriously in a real sport).So what I'm trying to say is, there is no real basis as to who should and shouldn't elite simply due to the evolution of the dailies and eliminations in The Challenge. One can argue that those girls were indeed elite at there time, but Camila, Cara, and Sarah have grown to be elite for this generation. And if you are going by stats alone, then you have outliers like Devyn, and others who have deceivingly good stats.
Jodi smoked everyone on the duel like Rachel did on duel 2. Her only bad showing was inferno 2 where she cracked after bad guys ganked up on her but she immediately fixed that on gauntlet 2. Holly S was athletic and had size. Sarah is only good in swimming and puzzles, on the other hand no strength, endurance, pace, etc.
We've also never seen Sarah in a physical elimination. Until I see her in a dirt pit, wrestling some shit out of another *****'s hands, she's not elite. Even Susie has done that.
kvm1977 wrote:To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
But under who's standards? Emily B, the Holly's and Jodi all competed in an era were the challenges were not to this extreme extent as it is now. ( Also Jodi got frazzled far too often under pressure to be taken seriously in a real sport).So what I'm trying to say is, there is no real basis as to who should and shouldn't elite simply due to the evolution of the dailies and eliminations in The Challenge. One can argue that those girls were indeed elite at there time, but Camila, Cara, and Sarah have grown to be elite for this generation. And if you are going by stats alone, then you have outliers like Devyn, and others who have deceivingly good stats.
Jodi smoked everyone on the duel like Rachel did on duel 2. Her only bad showing was inferno 2 where she cracked after bad guys ganked up on her but she immediately fixed that on gauntlet 2. Holly S was athletic and had size. Sarah is only good in swimming and puzzles, on the other hand no strength, endurance, pace, etc.
Okay, that's great, but that wasn't my point. You can't say Holly S is elite in a season where carnival games were the daileys and Sarah is not where things were basically like fear factor.
My rank of the champ males (enough sample size)Elite: Landon, Darrell, CT, Frank S, Dan S, Theo V, Mark, Evan2nd tier: Johnny, Wes, Derrick, Alton, Abram, Kenny, Timmy, Jordan, Mike the Miz, Jamie Murray 3rd tier: Brad, Tyler, Nehemiah, Eric Nies, Zach 4th tier: Dunbar, MJ
Agreed except tier 4. Never understood why MJ and Dunbar were so "over" amongst the other cast mates lol. These two are the prime example that size isn't everything.
Elite should be a very restricted tier so I would take Mark out and put him on tier 2.
It seems like what makes the elite girls elite is their height. How come someone like Ellen isn’t considered elite when Holly S, Holly B & Cooke are for their one challenge?
Good episode. Cara didn't need to mention that jailah looked like they had given up. Felt so bad for Hunter. He tried so hard. Tony...I can't even. Cara's crying was way too much. Still can't stand Jordan or Camila, but it was smart of them to find different routes. CT does not handle altitude well coming from sea level. He needs to train in CO or something before going. Derrick and Camila killed that elimination!
Emily S is so overrated. For someone so athletic, she always had a poor showing in the Final when it came to her cardio. She’d have to come back and win another challenge to truly be considered elite.
Tbone123 wrote:So who are the elite male people to y'all?
Landon, Darrell, CT, Johnny, Alton, Wes, Derrick, Kenny, Abe and Evan (sadly). Theo V, Miz, Brad, Dan S close by.
Take out Evan and Kenny and that's my list.And I'd also take out Brad and Derrick as I always felt those two are Above Average. Not elite.
Evan Derrick and Brad are all top 10 ****, Evan had a great showing on Duel 1 which had a stacked cast, Evan also won every mission he competed on during Fresh Meat 1...only left cause of injury ****.
I dont even like evan but hes TOP 10.
Have you not seen Gauntlet 2 or Inferno 2? Derrick was great those two seasons. Even on the Duel 1 when his *** won Push me against guys way bigger than him or on Gauntlet 2 where he sent home 4 guys who were also all bigger than him Zzzz.
Brad is a wildcard, like he was great on Sexes 2, and a strong ***et on Inferno 2, but he has never dominated a season like Evan or CT or Landon. However on both Duels he did send home the toughest competition lol..
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
Jodi lost to ******* Veronica on the Inferno.
Clearly most users on this board are just biased against the new generation.
I feel like they truly be considered ELITE or be in the cinvversation, you should have multiple challenge wins under your belt. That should be a universal thing everyone can agree on.
I feel like they truly be considered ELITE or be in the cinvversation, you should have multiple challenge wins under your belt. That should be a universal thing everyone can agree on.
its a factor but not the main one. Johnny has 6 wins but he’s not even elite. Doesn’t dominate eliminations for one. For elite, I look at competitors who can do well in all areas of the game.
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
Jodi lost to ******* Veronica on the Inferno. Clearly most users on this board are just biased against the new generation.
i was going to write "maybe Jodi". I can go either way with her. Laurel and Emily S are new generation and they're included. Cara early on was average at best. Remember I have a ton of tiers so it's hard for me. I like Sarah unlike most but she's not elite. I expected Nia to be elite but that didn't happy. Ashlee for NOLA2 as well.
I feel like they truly be considered ELITE or be in the cinvversation, you should have multiple challenge wins under your belt. That should be a universal thing everyone can agree on.
its a factor but not the main one. Johnny has 6 wins but he's not even elite. Doesn't dominate eliminations for one. For elite, I look at competitors who can do well in all areas of the game.
8 Finals. 6 Wins. That's elite in any sport, elimination record be ******.
And this is coming from someone who doesn't care much about Bananas
but how? Paula carried her in the rivals 2 final, shes not a strong swimmer, shes even worse at puzzles. Shes only dominant in eliminations, Aneesa used to also be dominant in eliminations, was she ever elite?
Emily S is so ******* unproven to me ****. Even on cutthroat Jenn outperformed her all season and we can rewatch together for whoever dont believe me, Jenn was tryna kill that final but blackface was moving too slow /:
Tbone123 wrote:So who are the elite male people to y'all?
Landon, Darrell, CT, Johnny, Alton, Wes, Derrick, Kenny, Abe and Evan (sadly). Theo V, Miz, Brad, Dan S close by.
Take out Evan and Kenny and that's my list.And I'd also take out Brad and Derrick as I always felt those two are Above Average. Not elite.
Evan Derrick and Brad are all top 10 ****, Evan had a great showing on Duel 1 which had a stacked cast, Evan also won every mission he competed on during Fresh Meat 1...only left cause of injury ****.I dont even like evan but hes TOP 10.Have you not seen Gauntlet 2 or Inferno 2? Derrick was great those two seasons. Even on the Duel 1 when his *** won Push me against guys way bigger than him or on Gauntlet 2 where he sent home 4 guys who were also all bigger than him Zzzz.Brad is a wildcard, like he was great on Sexes 2, and a strong ***et on Inferno 2, but he has never dominated a season like Evan or CT or Landon. However on both Duels he did send home the toughest competition lol..Kenny is not elite but he's a beast at finals
Yeah...I don't really Care. Evan Blows.
But the thing with Derrick is that he's only good at physical shit. He's not really good at anything else and in order to be elite in my eyes you need to be amazing at more than one category. And as far as Brad...I feel like he's solid and is an ***et on teams and does well indivitually but he's lost too many eliminations for me to even consider him elite.
Jenna just continues to lose more credibility to me with the Barbie beast name. This was probably her worst performance on the challenge. I can’t believe people actually put her in the same breath as Laurel before.
cara maria looked so pretty beginning of this episode, when she was watching that last elimination, soooooo pretty
Timmy is elite
We've also never seen Sarah in a physical elimination. Until I see her in a dirt pit, wrestling some shit out of another *****'s hands, she's not elite. Even Susie has done that.
LOL Sarah Rice is not ELITE...
This final 6 is the strongest final in a LONG time. Wish Jailah made it tho : (
My rank of the champ males (enough sample size)
Elite: Landon, Darrell, CT, Frank S, Dan S, Theo V, Mark, Evan
2nd tier: Johnny, Wes, Derrick, Alton, Abram, Kenny, Timmy, Jordan, Mike the Miz, Jamie Murray
3rd tier: Brad, Tyler, Nehemiah, Eric Nies, Zach
4th tier: Dunbar, MJ
Okay, that's great, but that wasn't my point. You can't say Holly S is elite in a season where carnival games were the daileys and Sarah is not where things were basically like fear factor.
Emily S is so overrated. For someone so athletic, she always had a poor showing in the Final when it came to her cardio.
She’d have to come back and win another challenge to truly be considered elite.
Agreed except tier 4. Never understood why MJ and Dunbar were so "over" amongst the other cast mates lol. These two are the prime example that size isn't everything.
Elite should be a very restricted tier so I would take Mark out and put him on tier 2.
It seems like what makes the elite girls elite is their height. How come someone like Ellen isn’t considered elite when Holly S, Holly B & Cooke are for their one challenge?
does laurel really not work out? I just thought she works out but doesn't train for challenges like other people do.
Good episode. Cara didn't need to mention that jailah looked like they had given up. Felt so bad for Hunter. He tried so hard. Tony...I can't even. Cara's crying was way too much. Still can't stand Jordan or Camila, but it was smart of them to find different routes. CT does not handle altitude well coming from sea level. He needs to train in CO or something before going. Derrick and Camila killed that elimination!
Evan Derrick and Brad are all top 10 ****, Evan had a great showing on Duel 1 which had a stacked cast, Evan also won every mission he competed on during Fresh Meat 1...only left cause of injury ****.
I dont even like evan but hes TOP 10.
Have you not seen Gauntlet 2 or Inferno 2? Derrick was great those two seasons. Even on the Duel 1 when his *** won Push me against guys way bigger than him or on Gauntlet 2 where he sent home 4 guys who were also all bigger than him Zzzz.
Brad is a wildcard, like he was great on Sexes 2, and a strong ***et on Inferno 2, but he has never dominated a season like Evan or CT or Landon. However on both Duels he did send home the toughest competition lol..
Kenny is not elite but he's a beast at finals
Derrick would be elite if his puzzle abilities were a lot better.
Jodi lost to ******* Veronica on the Inferno.
Clearly most users on this board are just biased against the new generation.
I feel like they truly be considered ELITE or be in the cinvversation, you should have multiple challenge wins under your belt. That should be a universal thing everyone can agree on.
Some of you guys are seriously so biased. You see tall girl with abs and you automatically call her elite.
Not only that but a lot of you don’t considering Camila & Cara elites because you don’t like them.
its a factor but not the main one. Johnny has 6 wins but he’s not even elite. Doesn’t dominate eliminations for one. For elite, I look at competitors who can do well in all areas of the game.
i was going to write "maybe Jodi". I can go either way with her. Laurel and Emily S are new generation and they're included. Cara early on was average at best. Remember I have a ton of tiers so it's hard for me. I like Sarah unlike most but she's not elite. I expected Nia to be elite but that didn't happy. Ashlee for NOLA2 as well.
8 Finals. 6 Wins. That's elite in any sport, elimination record be ******.
And this is coming from someone who doesn't care much about Bananas
Emily S is elite, that's not even a debate. Next.
but how? Paula carried her in the rivals 2 final, shes not a strong swimmer, shes even worse at puzzles. Shes only dominant in eliminations, Aneesa used to also be dominant in eliminations, was she ever elite?
Emily S is so ******* unproven to me ****. Even on cutthroat Jenn outperformed her all season and we can rewatch together for whoever dont believe me, Jenn was tryna kill that final but blackface was moving too slow /:
Wheres superboy when I need him ugh
Yeah...I don't really Care. Evan Blows.
But the thing with Derrick is that he's only good at physical shit. He's not really good at anything else and in order to be elite in my eyes you need to be amazing at more than one category. And as far as Brad...I feel like he's solid and is an ***et on teams and does well indivitually but he's lost too many eliminations for me to even consider him elite.
Yeah that's the thing. Derrick is all muscle and no brain.
why? So he can arrogantly shut down others opinions.
But to the actual episode...
Kailah and Jenna looked like they didn't even try. They just gave up and as far as Kailah that's dissapointing.
Felt so bad for Hunter. He's had the hardest road of anyone this season and he deserved that final. Oh well. Maybe another time
Derrick/Jordan and Tori better win this shit.
Jenna just continues to lose more credibility to me with the Barbie beast name. This was probably her worst performance on the challenge. I can’t believe people actually put her in the same breath as Laurel before.
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