Regarding Camila's performance she is good, I would say she is under the Elite tier with Sarah and Cara for example they do good in overall challenges but they aren't and will never be elite.
This is such a ridiculous statement. Why can they never be elite? Camila & Cara are 2 of the best female competitors this show has seen. Sarah is a great social player and competitor as well. I just rolled my eyes so hard at your opinion.
They already peaked as competitors, they have no competition and they brng nothing new to the table. How are u going to prove that you can hang with other elites when there are no elites? Sure they can win a bunch of them but no way they can become elite. Cara lacks in anything that involves swimming and Camila who is closer to that has huge breakdowns during things.
You can roll your eyes as hard as you can but doesn't change the fact that they will never belong with the likes of Emily, Evelyn and Laurel. Sarah is another "big fish small pond" syndrome player like Jenna where the girl cast is so weak that above average players look awesome.
xHollyangel wrote:Regarding Camila's performance she is good, I would say she is under the Elite tier with Sarah and Cara for example they do good in overall challenges but they aren't and will never be elite.
This is such a ridiculous statement. Why can they never be elite? Camila & Cara are 2 of the best female competitors this show has seen. Sarah is a great social player and competitor as well. I just rolled my eyes so hard at your opinion.
They already peaked as competitors, they have no competition and they brng nothing new to the table. How are u going to prove that you can hang with other elites when there are no elites? Sure they can win a bunch of them but no way they can become elite. Cara lacks in anything that involves swimming and Camila who is closer to that has huge breakdowns during things. You can roll your eyes as hard as you can but doesn't change the fact that they will never belong with the likes of Emily, Evelyn and Laurel. Sarah is another "big fish small pond" syndrome player like Jenna where the girl cast is so weak that above average players look awesome.
Sarah can hang. Sarah has performed well. Sarah has excelled in areas elites like Emily couldn't. Sarah is elite. Elite is a construct with no real basis, so arguing about it is moot.
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
Imagine if Nany was on this season and Ashley M stood longer.
I dont feel bad for Jailah, I was over them when they chose orders, teams, partners. Wish people would see that the show isnt all about physical strength.
And this season barely had any swimming challenges, I think last night was the first one and it wasnt that much swimming. Wonder if Cara and Leroy ever practiced their swimming
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
I think Camila is one of if not the best "non elite" girl. Like she may be at the lower end of top ten all time females. This may be her best season and if she wins this season even moreso. That personality though...
xHollyangel wrote:Regarding Camila's performance she is good, I would say she is under the Elite tier with Sarah and Cara for example they do good in overall challenges but they aren't and will never be elite.
This is such a ridiculous statement. Why can they never be elite? Camila & Cara are 2 of the best female competitors this show has seen. Sarah is a great social player and competitor as well. I just rolled my eyes so hard at your opinion.
They already peaked as competitors, they have no competition and they brng nothing new to the table. How are u going to prove that you can hang with other elites when there are no elites? Sure they can win a bunch of them but no way they can become elite. Cara lacks in anything that involves swimming and Camila who is closer to that has huge breakdowns during things. You can roll your eyes as hard as you can but doesn't change the fact that they will never belong with the likes of Emily, Evelyn and Laurel. Sarah is another "big fish small pond" syndrome player like Jenna where the girl cast is so weak that above average players look awesome.
Sarah can hang. Sarah has performed well. Sarah has excelled in areas elites like Emily couldn't. Sarah is elite. Elite is a construct with no real basis, so arguing about it is moot.
Sarah can hang with the new girls alright but she g***ed on that mini-final on Exes 2. If you look even further she wasn't even considered a threat in Rivals 1 and got her *** whooped by Jonna and Jasmine. Yes she had Katelyn as her partner but individually she wasn't that great either.
FM2 - eliminated by super team of Laurel/Kenny
Cutthroat - performance wise it wasn't impressive (specially on Riot Act) g***ed out and leaves in strecher.
Rivals 1 - Eliminated by Jonna and Jasmine
Exes 1 - it wasn't her fault so I give her that.
Seasons - was a good showing for her but again she didnt dominate neither the dailies or eliminations like Elites do.
Rivals 2 - Not her fault, Trishelle leaves. Either way Cooke/Cara Emily/Paula were the top teams.
Exes 2 - It wasn't even about her. Wes and Theresa were pretty much robbed and she played second fiddle in John's alliance until she betrays him.
Rivals 3 - There is literally ZERO competition and she walks by with the possible best partner she could have (John) in a season where everyone is basically aiming to be Johnny's third *****.
Thats it... compare it to other natural athletes like Ev/Laurel/Emily and you will see the difference. Not to mention the amount of challenges she needed to do before she could actually start winning. (yes CT also took a lot of time but he would have won it before if he wasn't always raging and beating people up).
You know she was throwing riot act right? Laurel and her planned on throwing it to lose Cara before the final
Oh yeah my bad! Still..Cutthroat overall her performance wasn't that wow. Ruins is the only good showing but the whole challenger team was a trainwreck.
xHollyangel wrote:Regarding Camila's performance she is good, I would say she is under the Elite tier with Sarah and Cara for example they do good in overall challenges but they aren't and will never be elite.
This is such a ridiculous statement. Why can they never be elite? Camila & Cara are 2 of the best female competitors this show has seen. Sarah is a great social player and competitor as well. I just rolled my eyes so hard at your opinion.
They already peaked as competitors, they have no competition and they brng nothing new to the table. How are u going to prove that you can hang with other elites when there are no elites? Sure they can win a bunch of them but no way they can become elite. Cara lacks in anything that involves swimming and Camila who is closer to that has huge breakdowns during things. You can roll your eyes as hard as you can but doesn't change the fact that they will never belong with the likes of Emily, Evelyn and Laurel. Sarah is another "big fish small pond" syndrome player like Jenna where the girl cast is so weak that above average players look awesome.
Sarah can hang. Sarah has performed well. Sarah has excelled in areas elites like Emily couldn't. Sarah is elite. Elite is a construct with no real basis, so arguing about it is moot.
Sarah can hang with the new girls alright but she g***ed on that mini-final on Exes 2. If you look even further she wasn't even considered a threat in Rivals 1 and got her *** whooped by Jonna and Jasmine. Yes she had Katelyn as her partner but individually she wasn't that great either. FM2 - eliminated by super team of Laurel/KennyCutthroat - performance wise it wasn't impressive (specially on Riot Act) g***ed out and leaves in strecher.Rivals 1 - Eliminated by Jonna and JasmineExes 1 - it wasn't her fault so I give her that.Seasons - was a good showing for her but again she didnt dominate neither the dailies or eliminations like Elites do.Rivals 2 - Not her fault, Trishelle leaves. Either way Cooke/Cara Emily/Paula were the top teams.Exes 2 - It wasn't even about her. Wes and Theresa were pretty much robbed and she played second fiddle in John's alliance until she betrays him.Rivals 3 - There is literally ZERO competition and she walks by with the possible best partner she could have (John) in a season where everyone is basically aiming to be Johnny's third *****. Thats it... compare it to other natural athletes like Ev/Laurel/Emily and you will see the difference. Not to mention the amount of challenges she needed to do before she could actually start winning. (yes CT also took a lot of time but he would have won it before if he wasn't always raging and beating people up).
I would consider Camila and Cara more elite than Sarah or even before, when they get eliminated, its by top teir players but Camilas personality gotta go
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
But under who's standards? Emily B, the Holly's and Jodi all competed in an era were the challenges were not to this extreme extent as it is now. ( Also Jodi got frazzled far too often under pressure to be taken seriously in a real sport).
So what I'm trying to say is, there is no real basis as to who should and shouldn't elite simply due to the evolution of the dailies and eliminations in The Challenge. One can argue that those girls were indeed elite at there time, but Camila, Cara, and Sarah have grown to be elite for this generation.
And if you are going by stats alone, then you have outliers like Devyn, and others who have deceivingly good stats.
But Laurel always says how she doesn't work out or play sports so how is she a special athlete.
Sarah is top tier statistically as she rarely struggles in missions, has made 5 finals, is a great swimmer, puzzle solver, and plays a social game. Im confused to where sarah lacks..?
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
But under who's standards? Emily B, the Holly's and Jodi all competed in an era were the challenges were not to this extreme extent as it is now. ( Also Jodi got frazzled far too often under pressure to be taken seriously in a real sport).So what I'm trying to say is, there is no real basis as to who should and shouldn't elite simply due to the evolution of the dailies and eliminations in The Challenge. One can argue that those girls were indeed elite at there time, but Camila, Cara, and Sarah have grown to be elite for this generation. And if you are going by stats alone, then you have outliers like Devyn, and others who have deceivingly good stats.
Jodi smoked everyone on the duel like Rachel did on duel 2. Her only bad showing was inferno 2 where she cracked after bad guys ganked up on her but she immediately fixed that on gauntlet 2. Holly S was athletic and had size. Sarah is only good in swimming and puzzles, on the other hand no strength, endurance, pace, etc.
how isnt sarah elite?
because I can and I will continue to, but thanks for your input
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They already peaked as competitors, they have no competition and they brng nothing new to the table. How are u going to prove that you can hang with other elites when there are no elites? Sure they can win a bunch of them but no way they can become elite. Cara lacks in anything that involves swimming and Camila who is closer to that has huge breakdowns during things.
You can roll your eyes as hard as you can but doesn't change the fact that they will never belong with the likes of Emily, Evelyn and Laurel. Sarah is another "big fish small pond" syndrome player like Jenna where the girl cast is so weak that above average players look awesome.
That racist piece of Trash is out her embarrassing Jemmye, Britni, Kailah and Jenna competitively. Poor Hunter.
Sarah can hang. Sarah has performed well. Sarah has excelled in areas elites like Emily couldn't. Sarah is elite. Elite is a construct with no real basis, so arguing about it is moot.
To be elite you have to be a special athlete. Evelyn Laurel Emily S Emily B Rachel R Holly S ***** Holly and Jodi. Sarah Cara and Camila are great but aren't athletic enough to be elite
Imagine if Nany was on this season and Ashley M stood longer.
I dont feel bad for Jailah, I was over them when they chose orders, teams, partners. Wish people would see that the show isnt all about physical strength.
And this season barely had any swimming challenges, I think last night was the first one and it wasnt that much swimming. Wonder if Cara and Leroy ever practiced their swimming
Thank you. I make your words my words.
That's pretty much where I stand with it.
Camila is small too, unlike the elite girls she's someone a near elite could toss around unlike Emily or laurel
I think Camila is one of if not the best "non elite" girl. Like she may be at the lower end of top ten all time females. This may be her best season and if she wins this season even moreso. That personality though...
Sarah can hang with the new girls alright but she g***ed on that mini-final on Exes 2. If you look even further she wasn't even considered a threat in Rivals 1 and got her *** whooped by Jonna and Jasmine. Yes she had Katelyn as her partner but individually she wasn't that great either.
FM2 - eliminated by super team of Laurel/Kenny
Cutthroat - performance wise it wasn't impressive (specially on Riot Act) g***ed out and leaves in strecher.
Rivals 1 - Eliminated by Jonna and Jasmine
Exes 1 - it wasn't her fault so I give her that.
Seasons - was a good showing for her but again she didnt dominate neither the dailies or eliminations like Elites do.
Rivals 2 - Not her fault, Trishelle leaves. Either way Cooke/Cara Emily/Paula were the top teams.
Exes 2 - It wasn't even about her. Wes and Theresa were pretty much robbed and she played second fiddle in John's alliance until she betrays him.
Rivals 3 - There is literally ZERO competition and she walks by with the possible best partner she could have (John) in a season where everyone is basically aiming to be Johnny's third *****.
Thats it... compare it to other natural athletes like Ev/Laurel/Emily and you will see the difference. Not to mention the amount of challenges she needed to do before she could actually start winning. (yes CT also took a lot of time but he would have won it before if he wasn't always raging and beating people up).
You know she was throwing riot act right? Laurel and her planned on throwing it to lose Cara before the final
Ruins. Sarah killed it on ruins. Outperformed KellyAnn in the final.
Oh yeah my bad! Still..Cutthroat overall her performance wasn't that wow. Ruins is the only good showing but the whole challenger team was a trainwreck.
Sarah is better than KellyAnne. Doesn't make her elite. Again, elite isn't a large group
very true. Her performance in that final was unforgettable in a very bad way though
Sarah isn't elite but she's close, like camila put her in something physical vs a strong competitor and she is screwed
I would consider Camila and Cara more elite than Sarah or even before, when they get eliminated, its by top teir players but Camilas personality gotta go
Sarah or Laurel as a partner in a final?
But under who's standards? Emily B, the Holly's and Jodi all competed in an era were the challenges were not to this extreme extent as it is now. ( Also Jodi got frazzled far too often under pressure to be taken seriously in a real sport).
So what I'm trying to say is, there is no real basis as to who should and shouldn't elite simply due to the evolution of the dailies and eliminations in The Challenge. One can argue that those girls were indeed elite at there time, but Camila, Cara, and Sarah have grown to be elite for this generation.
And if you are going by stats alone, then you have outliers like Devyn, and others who have deceivingly good stats.
But Laurel always says how she doesn't work out or play sports so how is she a special athlete.
Sarah is top tier statistically as she rarely struggles in missions, has made 5 finals, is a great swimmer, puzzle solver, and plays a social game. Im confused to where sarah lacks..?
I love Kellyanne but ppl forget she lost that final on The Ruins ...not sarah
So who are the elite male people to y’all?
Landon. Just Landon.
Jodi smoked everyone on the duel like Rachel did on duel 2. Her only bad showing was inferno 2 where she cracked after bad guys ganked up on her but she immediately fixed that on gauntlet 2. Holly S was athletic and had size. Sarah is only good in swimming and puzzles, on the other hand no strength, endurance, pace, etc.
Landon, Darrell, CT, Johnny, Alton, Wes, Derrick, Kenny, Abe and Evan (sadly). Theo V, Miz, Brad, Dan S close by.
Take out Evan and Kenny and that's my list.
And I'd also take out Brad and Derrick as I always felt those two are Above Average. Not elite.
I would put Frank S there
also brad being ELITE? where what who
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