The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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kollanekoer wrote:

fresh1721 wrote:

hardbitten wrote:
MarianaRO wrote:
tfunny wrote:jordan has one hand and still completed so... idk if hunter's one hand is an excuse lol

Are you really comparing an injury to something that Jordan was born with? Or in this case without. An injury hurts. It's not the same at all.

You don't even have to consider the pain...Jordan has lived a life time with the disability so he has learned how to adapt. It is very difficult to do that right after an injury occurs if your are not used to it. Plus the cast that he had on did not alow for the range of motion needed for the tasks he was performing

AGAIN, Jordan run finale with broken leg and got second/possibly won. I am sure he had enough pain then too....

I dont think you understand what I am saying...functionally Hunter does not know how to use the crowbar and/or shovel without the use of his other hand which is casted up. Thus explaining his struggles doesnt have much to do with pain tolerance. With that being said Jordan is very impressive with his entire skill set i just dont think it is as easy as "Jordan is so much better than Hunter because he perserved through his injury and Hunter Struggled"

ummm Jordan is not used to running with broken leg either? So i am confused. 

Hunter and Jordan both had injuries, one struggeled, one made it work. Imo broken leg is way worse than hand but what i know

fresh1721 wrote:

kollanekoer wrote:

fresh1721 wrote:
hardbitten wrote:
MarianaRO wrote:
tfunny wrote:jordan has one hand and still completed so... idk if hunter's one hand is an excuse lol

Are you really comparing an injury to something that Jordan was born with? Or in this case without. An injury hurts. It's not the same at all.

You don't even have to consider the pain...Jordan has lived a life time with the disability so he has learned how to adapt. It is very difficult to do that right after an injury occurs if your are not used to it. Plus the cast that he had on did not alow for the range of motion needed for the tasks he was performing

AGAIN, Jordan run finale with broken leg and got second/possibly won. I am sure he had enough pain then too....

I dont think you understand what I am saying...functionally Hunter does not know how to use the crowbar and/or shovel without the use of his other hand which is casted up. Thus explaining his struggles doesnt have much to do with pain tolerance. With that being said Jordan is very impressive with his entire skill set i just dont think it is as easy as "Jordan is so much better than Hunter because he perserved through his injury and Hunter Struggled"

ummm Jordan is not used to running with broken leg either? So i am confused. Hunter and Jordan both had injuries, one struggeled, one made it work. Imo broken leg is way worse than hand but what i know

We know how serious Hunters injury was. We don't know exactly what happened with Jordan. He might have broken it near the end. Or maybe it was not even that serious.

That sucks because if Jordan won a good amount of that money went to hospital bills. 

fresh1721 wrote:

kollanekoer wrote:

fresh1721 wrote:
hardbitten wrote:
MarianaRO wrote:
tfunny wrote:jordan has one hand and still completed so... idk if hunter's one hand is an excuse lol

Are you really comparing an injury to something that Jordan was born with? Or in this case without. An injury hurts. It's not the same at all.

You don't even have to consider the pain...Jordan has lived a life time with the disability so he has learned how to adapt. It is very difficult to do that right after an injury occurs if your are not used to it. Plus the cast that he had on did not alow for the range of motion needed for the tasks he was performing

AGAIN, Jordan run finale with broken leg and got second/possibly won. I am sure he had enough pain then too....

I dont think you understand what I am saying...functionally Hunter does not know how to use the crowbar and/or shovel without the use of his other hand which is casted up. Thus explaining his struggles doesnt have much to do with pain tolerance. With that being said Jordan is very impressive with his entire skill set i just dont think it is as easy as "Jordan is so much better than Hunter because he perserved through his injury and Hunter Struggled"

ummm Jordan is not used to running with broken leg either? So i am confused. Hunter and Jordan both had injuries, one struggeled, one made it work. Imo broken leg is way worse than hand but what i know

There are various types of fractures I am like 99% sure it wasn't a compound fracture...fairly certain there wasn't any displacement or dislocation involved because I doubt the medical team would have allowed him to continue if those were the case. Which means it probably was a hairline fracture or something less serious. Football players have finished out football games with those type of injuries...in the last olympics a runner finished a race with a lesser serious leg fracture so it is possible to do so...and once again jordan is impressive...and here's what I want you to do wrap one of your hands and/or cast it like hunter did then try to use a crowbar and shovel as he did...let me know how successful you are

Pretty sure Camila & Jordan won 

That's what I feared hate that camila doesn't suffer a karmic fate and hate that diesel is going to have to live with the..."got beat by a guy with a broken leg" if that is the case hopefully he got done in by a puzzle of some sort because we all know derrick ain't a puzzle master.

kollanekoer wrote:

fresh1721 wrote:

kollanekoer wrote:
fresh1721 wrote:
hardbitten wrote:
MarianaRO wrote:
tfunny wrote:jordan has one hand and still completed so... idk if hunter's one hand is an excuse lol

Are you really comparing an injury to something that Jordan was born with? Or in this case without. An injury hurts. It's not the same at all.

You don't even have to consider the pain...Jordan has lived a life time with the disability so he has learned how to adapt. It is very difficult to do that right after an injury occurs if your are not used to it. Plus the cast that he had on did not alow for the range of motion needed for the tasks he was performing

AGAIN, Jordan run finale with broken leg and got second/possibly won. I am sure he had enough pain then too....

I dont think you understand what I am saying...functionally Hunter does not know how to use the crowbar and/or shovel without the use of his other hand which is casted up. Thus explaining his struggles doesnt have much to do with pain tolerance. With that being said Jordan is very impressive with his entire skill set i just dont think it is as easy as "Jordan is so much better than Hunter because he perserved through his injury and Hunter Struggled"

ummm Jordan is not used to running with broken leg either? So i am confused. Hunter and Jordan both had injuries, one struggeled, one made it work. Imo broken leg is way worse than hand but what i know

We know how serious Hunters injury was. We don't know exactly what happened with Jordan. He might have broken it near the end. Or maybe it was not even that serious.

this arguement is ridiculous...

ever since the cast list for season 31 came out i have been pretty sure that camilla and jordan won since derrick was an alternate.  there is no way they would ever put a reigning champ on the alternate list despite how boring he was.

this arguement is ridiculous...

Pretty sure Camila & Jordan won 

I won’t have you speak that into existence.

 

gamer73 wrote:

Pretty sure Camila & Jordan won 

I won’t have you speak that into existence. 

It’s the general consensus that those two won based on things that have been said.

Would this season have been drastically different if Ashley Mitchell never went home?

Would this season have been drastically different if Ashley Mitchell never went home?

I think if she stayed and Amanda/Devin/Latoya/Darrell never set foot in redemption the game would've been 100% different.

So clearly they’re not showing the Tori/Jordan hookup... which probably means this is edited out of the reunion. They really are leaving out some of the best shit. Terribly boring editing.

So clearly they're not showing the Tori/Jordan hookup... which probably means this is edited out of the reunion. They really are leaving out some of the best shit. Terribly boring editing.

i honestly think this editing has really been ******* with this season. Like I get it, it's gonna be a long season bc they're showing each redemption but some episodes were 100% useless. It bothers me how much they are giving Camila the good edit. They didn't show her shouting death threats to Kailah and make it seem like she's quiet and the perfect partner... and the edits are def leaning toward a Jordan/Camila win  

 

Wait so the partners they chose last night are the partners they have all throughout? Since that aligns with the final placements... I hate these partner finals for individual formats. I know someone said it might have to do with camera following 6 people individually but then go do Duel 1 format and have 2 finalists each 

 

Jordan Wiseley‏ @JordanW_usa  12h12 hours ago

"Same tibial fracture that put @DezBryant out for eight games. Sometimes it just depends how bad you want it. #GoCowboys"

so im guessing it was serious but not enough to stop him from running the final lol

 Jordan Wiseley‏ @JordanW_usa  12h12 hours ago"Same tibial fracture that put @DezBryant out for eight games. Sometimes it just depends how bad you want it. #GoCowboys"so im guessing it was serious but not enough to stop him from running the final lol

i think he really just had one of those super adrenaline moments and was able to power through 

Tori the only person not to go to redemption.

This last elimination was bascially a redemption challenge since the purge was the challenge before.

So clearly they’re not showing the Tori/Jordan hookup... which probably means this is edited out of the reunion. They really are leaving out some of the best shit. Terribly boring editing.

They didn't hook up during filming.

tfunny wrote:

 Jordan Wiseley‏ @JordanW_usa  12h12 hours ago"Same tibial fracture that put @DezBryant out for eight games. Sometimes it just depends how bad you want it. #GoCowboys"so im guessing it was serious but not enough to stop him from running the final lol

i think he really just had one of those super adrenaline moments and was able to power through 

He had a hairline fracture, so adrenaline probably definitely helped him. I think if he really had a bad fracture adrenaline wouldn't have even helped. 

ever since the cast list for season 31 came out i have been pretty sure that camilla and jordan won since derrick was an alternate.  there is no way they would ever put a reigning champ on the alternate list despite how boring he was.

I think the exact opposite. Because the winners of The Island didnt come back for The Duel II because they had won the previous season.

I'm optimistic that Derrick and Cara won just because Camila wasn't even at the reunion

Tori the only person not to go to redemption.This last elimination was bascially a redemption challenge since the purge was the challenge before.

Kailah, Camila and Derrick never went to redemption

imallergic wrote:

tfunny wrote: Jordan Wiseley‏ @JordanW_usa  12h12 hours ago"Same tibial fracture that put @DezBryant out for eight games. Sometimes it just depends how bad you want it. #GoCowboys"so im guessing it was serious but not enough to stop him from running the final lol

i think he really just had one of those super adrenaline moments and was able to power through 

He had a hairline fracture, so adrenaline probably definitely helped him. I think if he really had a bad fracture adrenaline wouldn't have even helped. 

I think it's a little different in the case of Dez Bryant...first in football you are at constant risk of being hit and worsening the injury. Though final is grueling it's mostly just a run with obstacles. Plus being under contract the team can determine. If and when a player can come back, if I remember correctly Dez wanted to come back early from that injury because it was just a pain thing but the team held him out for risk of reinjuring it and Dez not living up to his contract because of injury...

Pretty sure Camila & Jordan won 

Yikes...I wonder if MTV regrets letting Camila stay around since she won given that they were initially planning on editing out her racism but got pressured into showing it and now they have to award the biggest prize to probably the most hated castmember.  Seems like it would be bad PR. Probably not though

Meelz wrote:

Would this season have been drastically different if Ashley Mitchell never went home?

I think if she stayed and Amanda/Devin/Latoya/Darrell never set foot in redemption the game would've been 100% different.

She's good but I doubt she could save all 4 of them from going to redemption. Would have been a more interesting season with her there

imallergic wrote:

tfunny wrote: Jordan Wiseley‏ @JordanW_usa  12h12 hours ago"Same tibial fracture that put @DezBryant out for eight games. Sometimes it just depends how bad you want it. #GoCowboys"so im guessing it was serious but not enough to stop him from running the final lol

i think he really just had one of those super adrenaline moments and was able to power through 

He had a hairline fracture, so adrenaline probably definitely helped him. I think if he really had a bad fracture adrenaline wouldn't have even helped. 

yea I think it wasn’t a full on fracture. Everyone heals and takes pain differently. I had a hairline fracture in my foot once and couldn’t walk for a few weeks. I can’t imagine running a final and jumping like Jordan did. 

so your telling me a guy with a bad leg and 1 hand won the final, lmaooo derrick and ct are flops and should never come back if thats true

roman wrote:

Tori the only person not to go to redemption.This last elimination was bascially a redemption challenge since the purge was the challenge before.

Kailah, Camila and Derrick never went to redemption

The last challenge was basically a redemption challenge without the house. Because the challenge before was the purge.

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