I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
Its basically ****** if you do, ****** if you don't. Cory probably did jump the gun but its like **** it. I have more respect for him than I ever will somebody like Dario or Leroy.
People can save that friend BS b/c as we saw on Exes 2, John has no problem throwing said "friend" under the bus when it suits him. Why y'all think The Queen went off like she did?
I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
I wouldn't say that's 100% true Darrell said he would've saved Cory during the Purge and I believe Darrell would've worked with the young bucks had Cory saved him...
Graphik wrote:I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
Its basically ****** if you do, ****** if you don't. Cory probably did jump the gun but its like **** it. I have more respect for him than I ever will somebody like Dario or Leroy.People can save that friend BS b/c as we saw on Exes 2, John has no problem throwing said "friend" under the bus when it suits him. Why y'all think The Queen went off like she did?
Not saying they will be sussessful either way... but what annoys me the most is that there is no balance. You have 6 on Bananas side and about 3 on the others. Let's get a balance, cast some athletic young guys (and you can still keep Cory in there too, you don't have to get rid of him), split them in teams, have them go head to head. Simple.
Graphik wrote:I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
Its basically ****** if you do, ****** if you don't. Cory probably did jump the gun but its like **** it. I have more respect for him than I ever will somebody like Dario or Leroy.People can save that friend BS b/c as we saw on Exes 2, John has no problem throwing said "friend" under the bus when it suits him. Why y'all think The Queen went off like she did?
Exactly. Like What are the young bucks supposed to do at this point? I'll admit Cory made a bad move by announcing that he was going after Backpack and his alliance but let's be real....he, Nelson, and Hunter was gonna get targeted regardless. That's why I don't get why people were against Cory taking Darrell out the game....What exactly would that have done for him? Darrell ain't gonna align with him and he if it came down to the vets or Cory who you think he gonna pick?
And you right too...Backpack threw Leroy under the bus so what makes you think Backpack(or anyone else in his crew) wouldn't do the same to them? Like you said..****** if you ****** if you don't
Graphik wrote:I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
I wouldn't say that's 100% true Darrell said he would've saved Cory during the Purge and I believe Darrell would've worked with the young bucks had Cory saved him...
Graphik wrote:I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
I wouldn't say that's 100% true Darrell said he would've saved Cory during the Purge and I believe Darrell would've worked with the young bucks had Cory saved him...
Oh word? When he say that?
Right before they did the final round when they got the cannon balls.
I do give Cory credit for at least attempting to try and get Bananas and his crew out. If they cast the Young Bucks PLUS ppl like John H, Mike C (AYTO5), etc. they they'd actually have a chance but we know how that goes.
Graphik wrote:I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
I wouldn't say that's 100% true Darrell said he would've saved Cory during the Purge and I believe Darrell would've worked with the young bucks had Cory saved him...
Oh word? When he say that?
Right before they did the final round when they got the cannon balls.
Oh well then maybe he should've saved Darrell then. But I do understand why he got rid of him though.
I do give Cory credit for at least attempting to try and get Bananas and his crew out. If they cast the Young Bucks PLUS ppl like John H, Mike C (AYTO5), etc. they they'd actually have a chance but we know how that goes.
I do give Cory credit for at least attempting to try and get Bananas and his crew out. If they cast the Young Bucks PLUS ppl like John H, Mike C (AYTO5), etc. they they'd actually have a chance but we know how that goes.
I understand Cory getting rid of Darrell because he's a threat but Darrell, unlike Tony, sure as hell wouldn't have played John's game. He would have worked with John but Darrell would have made moves. Basically Cory just kept a weak player around that couldn't help him in any way. Not the worst decision but he burnt a bridge with Darrell and showed his cards very early in the game.
Graphik wrote:I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.
I forgot about that too lol.But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?
Its basically ****** if you do, ****** if you don't. Cory probably did jump the gun but its like **** it. I have more respect for him than I ever will somebody like Dario or Leroy.People can save that friend BS b/c as we saw on Exes 2, John has no problem throwing said "friend" under the bus when it suits him. Why y'all think The Queen went off like she did?
Difference is Johnny did it without getting his hands dirty. He purposely lost that mission knowing that Jordan & Sarah would vote in Leroy & Nia and that way dodged bullet by not having to vote someone in.
Now look Young Bucks:
Cory - why use brain when you can tell everyone your game plan
Nelson - didn't vote stronge players in just to keep target on Cory, in other words no brain
Hunter - his anger makes him vote people in and not his brain, plus he didn't have problem talking shit about Cory when he went to argue with Kailah
The Young Bucks just don't have the across-the-board skill to stand up to the Bananas crew. Bananas is quite the villain during his seasons but he's evidently charming enough off screen to get people to work with him, at least on an ancillary basis. There's no real good politican in the Young Bucks alliance and while Hunter and Nelson are solid physical competitors, they aren't a CT/Landon/Alton elite type guys. Cory is neither a great physical competitor or a politician. You either have to have a lot of political savvy or be physically dominant and the Young Bucks are neither. The fact that Bananas can convince the Tonys and the Darios of the world to join up as the bottom rung of their crew rather than join the Young Bucks crew is absolutely an incrimination on the Young Bucks crew. Yes, Tony and Dario aren't smart, but if you can't sell those two on being part of your group, that doesn't reflect well on your political skills. And, as has been said in the last few pages, the lack of outreach to the female competitors also doesn't reflect well on the Young Bucks. Girls have votes, too.
Cory isn't the first one out either. PR said when she updated the spoiler page that he was the most recent one out and she has reasons to believe at least two more males went out before him. Making Cory at least 3rd out.
I heard Joss is taking Hunter's place as the third member of the young bucks this season. Also heard that Victor & Brad are also wiping John's *** with Leroy, Zach, and Tony.
I trust Shane/Veronica to have full game-awarness of the right time to go after Bananas and when you shouldn't go after him.Cory went for him to early on xxx and while it secured him a spot in pretty much every challenge season now as the guy who isn't afraid to go against the big dogs, he made to many enemies too soon as it has been shown that this storyline is and probably will go on for about three season straight now. He should take a break next season.
^^^^ I feel like THAT is what hurts them moreso than them not siding with John. They gotta start talking to the women & making them feel assured enough to to go against the grain. You can't get anymore dumb than Kailah & Nicole Z. though so they're kind of stuck in that regard lmaooooo. They have Britni but what tf is she going to do?
They need to convince Aneesa to fully ride with them lol
daddy joss
That's Joss? He looks good.
Its basically ****** if you do, ****** if you don't. Cory probably did jump the gun but its like **** it. I have more respect for him than I ever will somebody like Dario or Leroy.
People can save that friend BS b/c as we saw on Exes 2, John has no problem throwing said "friend" under the bus when it suits him. Why y'all think The Queen went off like she did?
so its her or kam? tragic.
I wouldn't say that's 100% true Darrell said he would've saved Cory during the Purge and I believe Darrell would've worked with the young bucks had Cory saved him...
Not saying they will be sussessful either way... but what annoys me the most is that there is no balance. You have 6 on Bananas side and about 3 on the others. Let's get a balance, cast some athletic young guys (and you can still keep Cory in there too, you don't have to get rid of him), split them in teams, have them go head to head. Simple.
Exactly. Like What are the young bucks supposed to do at this point? I'll admit Cory made a bad move by announcing that he was going after Backpack and his alliance but let's be real....he, Nelson, and Hunter was gonna get targeted regardless. That's why I don't get why people were against Cory taking Darrell out the game....What exactly would that have done for him? Darrell ain't gonna align with him and he if it came down to the vets or Cory who you think he gonna pick?
And you right too...Backpack threw Leroy under the bus so what makes you think Backpack(or anyone else in his crew) wouldn't do the same to them? Like you said..****** if you ****** if you don't
Oh word? When he say that?
The Kang knows how to play a lowkey game without looking like a simp in the process. Leroy/Dario/Tony could learn from him.
Plus hes just so respected that neither side would gun for him.
Right before they did the final round when they got the cannon balls.
I do give Cory credit for at least attempting to try and get Bananas and his crew out. If they cast the Young Bucks PLUS ppl like John H, Mike C (AYTO5), etc. they they'd actually have a chance but we know how that goes.
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Oh well then maybe he should've saved Darrell then. But I do understand why he got rid of him though.
I think it means Cory is the third guy out.
intelligent new players would realize that you cant just jump the gun and go after the big dogs.
Coryy didn't go second...did he go first? lol
I understand Cory getting rid of Darrell because he's a threat but Darrell, unlike Tony, sure as hell wouldn't have played John's game. He would have worked with John but Darrell would have made moves. Basically Cory just kept a weak player around that couldn't help him in any way. Not the worst decision but he burnt a bridge with Darrell and showed his cards very early in the game.
How does Brian replacing Cory make you feeeeep Hardbitten?
Difference is Johnny did it without getting his hands dirty. He purposely lost that mission knowing that Jordan & Sarah would vote in Leroy & Nia and that way dodged bullet by not having to vote someone in.
Now look Young Bucks:
Cory - why use brain when you can tell everyone your game plan
Nelson - didn't vote stronge players in just to keep target on Cory, in other words no brain
Hunter - his anger makes him vote people in and not his brain, plus he didn't have problem talking shit about Cory when he went to argue with Kailah
It's not happening, so I'm feelin good.
The Young Bucks just don't have the across-the-board skill to stand up to the Bananas crew. Bananas is quite the villain during his seasons but he's evidently charming enough off screen to get people to work with him, at least on an ancillary basis. There's no real good politican in the Young Bucks alliance and while Hunter and Nelson are solid physical competitors, they aren't a CT/Landon/Alton elite type guys. Cory is neither a great physical competitor or a politician. You either have to have a lot of political savvy or be physically dominant and the Young Bucks are neither. The fact that Bananas can convince the Tonys and the Darios of the world to join up as the bottom rung of their crew rather than join the Young Bucks crew is absolutely an incrimination on the Young Bucks crew. Yes, Tony and Dario aren't smart, but if you can't sell those two on being part of your group, that doesn't reflect well on your political skills. And, as has been said in the last few pages, the lack of outreach to the female competitors also doesn't reflect well on the Young Bucks. Girls have votes, too.
Cory isn't the first one out either. PR said when she updated the spoiler page that he was the most recent one out and she has reasons to believe at least two more males went out before him. Making Cory at least 3rd out.
Speaking of Brian..He does need to come on.
I heard Joss is taking Hunter's place as the third member of the young bucks this season. Also heard that Victor & Brad are also wiping John's *** with Leroy, Zach, and Tony.
I trust Shane/Veronica to have full game-awarness of the right time to go after Bananas and when you shouldn't go after him.Cory went for him to early on xxx and while it secured him a spot in pretty much every challenge season now as the guy who isn't afraid to go against the big dogs, he made to many enemies too soon as it has been shown that this storyline is and probably will go on for about three season straight now. He should take a break next season.
^^^^ I feel like THAT is what hurts them moreso than them not siding with John. They gotta start talking to the women & making them feel assured enough to to go against the grain. You can't get anymore dumb than Kailah & Nicole Z. though so they're kind of stuck in that regard lmaooooo. They have Britni but what tf is she going to do?
They need to convince Aneesa to fully ride with them lol
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