The Challenge: Vendettas (Season 31) - Spoilers Discussion

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Eddie1378 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Eddie1378 wrote:I think Cory is actually underrated on here and Veronica is overrated

Veronica is a three time champ that has come back after nearly a decade off and done far better socially and competitively than Cory did.  Veronica is considered an average competitor that has outperformed all expectations.Cory flopped again...predictably...he has the worst social game of all time.  You can't truly believe what you said--if you do then you're clueless.

still stand by what I said.Veronica had one good episode and now she can carry the show? Its not just you either. Everyone on here overrates her. Im not saying Cory is good but hes better than what you guys say he is. He doesnt suck he just doesnt have the ability like a Wes or Derrick K to climb from the bottom

LOL at one good episode.  You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.  Veronica's been a focus (if not the primary focuse) of 3-4 episodes so far and if you've seen the preview of the next episode you're going to be seeing her run shit yet again.  Cory, like Veronica, is an average competitor.  Cory might even be slightly better than average but when your social game is as bad as his you need to be CT to even have a chance.  Derrick & Wes couldn't win if they were as bad as he was at their worst.  Cory's social game rivals Beth's.You're very biased and clearly refusing to give Veroica credit for what she's done after all that time off.  Veronica twice has outlasted Cory.  Twice.  And she did it the first time with no one other than Aneesa.  Cory's an idiot--and a loser.  Those are facts.  If he doesn't learn from this season he shouldn't come back.  

Outlasting someone doesnt mean anything to me. Jemmye  has outlasted 8 women so far and she is the worst.  I agree that Cory needs to improve next season or he should be done

I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

Nelson's social game is as bad as Cory.  Well, almost as bad.  Nelson is a much better competitor than Cory.  Nelson & Hunter could be a legit threat on a season together if they could work with someone great.  Like if Hunter would buddy up with CT who could almost be a father figure for him.  Or if Nelson could build a friendship with Derrick or Darrell instead of referring to them as "the old *****".  Plus, it would help if Nelson had a brain.

Graphik wrote:

DollKilla wrote:When did you all first start getting tired of seeing Bananas on your screen. For me it was the Duel because I hated him on Key West, and I honestly didn't want to see him again.

Inferno 3 with him never shutting the **** up about Cara.There is absolutely nothing about this oaf of a person that screams "lets put him on television consistently for the next 11 years". Not a damn thing but the way that privilege is set up though........

I wouldn't say priviledge...moreso luck.

Carefull DA. Ur starting to have valid points

I love how people act like Cory is this useless thing. I'm not saying that he's elite. Boy is FAR from it but let's not act like he's the male Casey. He's done decent more often than not.  God forbid he isn't the 2nd coming of CT.

Veronica is absolutley 100% overrated. That ***** hasn't really been all THAT much of a factor this season but people wanna act like she's been the ******* STAR and is carrying this season? LOL. I'm not saying she's weak or that she's been useless because she's been doing decent and had a few moments here and there but in no way has she "Exceeded Expectations" and she is in no way at the forefront of this season. 

kvm1977 wrote:

Eddie1378 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
Eddie1378 wrote:I think Cory is actually underrated on here and Veronica is overrated

Veronica is a three time champ that has come back after nearly a decade off and done far better socially and competitively than Cory did.  Veronica is considered an average competitor that has outperformed all expectations.Cory flopped again...predictably...he has the worst social game of all time.  You can't truly believe what you said--if you do then you're clueless.

still stand by what I said.Veronica had one good episode and now she can carry the show? Its not just you either. Everyone on here overrates her. Im not saying Cory is good but hes better than what you guys say he is. He doesnt suck he just doesnt have the ability like a Wes or Derrick K to climb from the bottom

LOL at one good episode.  You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.  Veronica's been a focus (if not the primary focuse) of 3-4 episodes so far and if you've seen the preview of the next episode you're going to be seeing her run shit yet again.  Cory, like Veronica, is an average competitor.  Cory might even be slightly better than average but when your social game is as bad as his you need to be CT to even have a chance.  Derrick & Wes couldn't win if they were as bad as he was at their worst.  Cory's social game rivals Beth's.You're very biased and clearly refusing to give Veroica credit for what she's done after all that time off.  Veronica twice has outlasted Cory.  Twice.  And she did it the first time with no one other than Aneesa.  Cory's an idiot--and a loser.  Those are facts.  If he doesn't learn from this season he shouldn't come back.  

Outlasting someone doesnt mean anything to me. Jemmye  has outlasted 8 women so far and she is the worst.  I agree that Cory needs to improve next season or he should be done

Veronia outlasted Cory because she made better game moves when she's earned the opportunity and been a better competitor than him

Jemmye has made it this far because, as annoying as I believe she is, her social game is spot on--much like Tori.  Anyone that thinks a rookie can't go far without having to win 5-6 times needs to watch how great Tori is playing this year.  She's writing the book on it.

_tasha wrote:

I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

Nelson's social game is as bad as Cory.  Well, almost as bad.  Nelson is a much better competitor than Cory.  Nelson & Hunter could be a legit threat on a season together if they could work with someone great.  Like if Hunter would buddy up with CT who could almost be a father figure for him.  Or if Nelson could build a friendship with Derrick or Darrell instead of referring to them as "the old *****".  Plus, it would help if Nelson had a brain.

I heard that the young bucks bromigos gets a seperate short bus apart from the rest of the cast on their way to challenges and such

Graphik wrote:

DollKilla wrote:When did you all first start getting tired of seeing Bananas on your screen. For me it was the Duel because I hated him on Key West, and I honestly didn't want to see him again.

Inferno 3 with him never shutting the **** up about Cara.There is absolutely nothing about this oaf of a person that screams "lets put him on television consistently for the next 11 years". Not a damn thing but the way that privilege is set up though........

I wouldn't say priviledge...moreso luck.

You know what kind of privilege I'm talking about lol Dirol

I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

hey ma

Debut Album wrote:

Graphik wrote:

DollKilla wrote:When did you all first start getting tired of seeing Bananas on your screen. For me it was the Duel because I hated him on Key West, and I honestly didn't want to see him again.

Inferno 3 with him never shutting the **** up about Cara.There is absolutely nothing about this oaf of a person that screams "lets put him on television consistently for the next 11 years". Not a damn thing but the way that privilege is set up though........

I wouldn't say priviledge...moreso luck.

Carefull DA. Ur starting to have valid points

I've always had valid points. People just don't agree with them.

Debut Album wrote:

Graphik wrote:

DollKilla wrote:When did you all first start getting tired of seeing Bananas on your screen. For me it was the Duel because I hated him on Key West, and I honestly didn't want to see him again.

Inferno 3 with him never shutting the **** up about Cara.There is absolutely nothing about this oaf of a person that screams "lets put him on television consistently for the next 11 years". Not a damn thing but the way that privilege is set up though........

I wouldn't say priviledge...moreso luck.

You know what kind of privilege I'm talking about lol Dirol

Oooohhhh..Yeah. I Got ya.

I love how people act like Cory is this useless thing. I'm not saying that he's elite. Boy is FAR from it but let's not act like he's the male Casey. He's done decent more often than not.  God forbid he isn't the 2nd coming of CT.Veronica is absolutley 100% overrated. That ***** hasn't really been all THAT much of a factor this season but people wanna act like she's been the ******* STAR and is carrying this season? LOL. I'm not saying she's weak or that she's been useless because she's been doing decent and had a few moments here and there but in no way has she "Exceeded Expectations" and she is in no way at the forefront of this season. 

Yet again--you refusing to acknowledge when a vet, see Shane, comes back and is the center of the season.  Production wants Veronica to be the center.  They're loving this.  I would love to know who you think MTV/BMP is making the focus right now.  The fact you referred to her as "that *****" sums up everything.

Cory's a better competitor than Casey.  Casey's social game was infinitely better.  Cory's just not a good enough competitor to be this bad socially.

Have Nelson, Cory or Hunter even tried to get any of the girls to work with them?  I mean, Cory ******* half of them isn't exactly a game plan.

LOL @ Cory proving so many of us right.  The question isn't "can he win?" it's whether or not he'll ever reach the half-way point again.  Guessing Nelson & Cory played the same game--yet again--hoping for different results.

Yea I'm not sure why people wanna blame Johnny and his friends. You wanna play the game with your friends, Leroy shouldn't turn his back on Johnny. Just like Cory and Nelson wouldn't turn their back on each other. Cory and Nelson wanna dive in head first, eyes closed running their mouths every season showing everyone their cards while never backing it up on the field. They've shown themseleves to not be good allies, only to each other. And all they do is call people out for not having the same gameplan as them.. like that's gonna win them some new friends. They continue to lose, whine on the reunion/social media, get called back, show up with the same game plan and lose all over again. A part of me think they don't really care, they just show up for the appearance check and use the 'get Bananas out' story to stay relevant in the producers eyes. 

Cory went home first or second.  And no one is surprised.  What does that tell you?   Cory was supposed to be the "stud" of the recent Real World seasons.

_tasha wrote:

I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

Nelson's social game is as bad as Cory.  Well, almost as bad.  Nelson is a much better competitor than Cory.  Nelson & Hunter could be a legit threat on a season together if they could work with someone great.  Like if Hunter would buddy up with CT who could almost be a father figure for him.  Or if Nelson could build a friendship with Derrick or Darrell instead of referring to them as "the old *****".  Plus, it would help if Nelson had a brain.

Why is his social game bad? Because he doesn't conform to what you believe should be the challenge social standards? I'd prefer him to do what he wants than to kiss *** just to be at the bottom of somebody's allliance list. Besides, If he doesn't suck up to them what are they going to do? Put him in eliminations? We already know that he can win those. I'd rather watch someone not playing ***** than to watch whatever the **** Leroy is doing... what does he do? Does anybody know? Has anybody actually ever seen him compete? They may just slide the token in for the group shots.

Debut Album wrote:

I love how people act like Cory is this useless thing. I'm not saying that he's elite. Boy is FAR from it but let's not act like he's the male Casey. He's done decent more often than not.  God forbid he isn't the 2nd coming of CT.Veronica is absolutley 100% overrated. That ***** hasn't really been all THAT much of a factor this season but people wanna act like she's been the ******* STAR and is carrying this season? LOL. I'm not saying she's weak or that she's been useless because she's been doing decent and had a few moments here and there but in no way has she "Exceeded Expectations" and she is in no way at the forefront of this season. 

Yet again--you refusing to acknowledge when a vet, see Shane, comes back and is the center of the season.  Production wants Veronica to be the center.  They're loving this.  I would love to know who you think MTV/BMP is making the focus right now.  The fact you referred to her as "that *****" sums up everything.Cory's a better competitor than Casey.  Casey's social game was infinitely better.  Cory's just not a good enough competitor to be this bad socially.

I'm not refusing to acknowledge anything. You and so many others are overrating her importance to dirty 30. That's all this is. She hasn't gotten THAT much screentime and she hasn't really done THAT much. She is old school and that's why people are acting like she's this big star of the season when she's not. That's why people got soo pissed off when CT called her weak(I don't agree with that completly as she has merit as a competitor but she is nowhere near one of the top girls this season). Hell. I'd say Shane was more important to Invasion that V was to XXX.

And honestly I feel like it's been a group effort when it comes to screentime. There's no clear cut person that's getting the most screentime or confessionals. And that's how it should be IMO.

Tasha!

Is it true that the first female boot is between Alicia and Kam? Someone said on a Wikia blog that thats what they read on Vevmo and I was like oh shit.

Hold up. Wait. Did I just peep _tasha posting? Yes!

kvm1977 wrote:

_tasha wrote:I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

Nelson's social game is as bad as Cory.  Well, almost as bad.  Nelson is a much better competitor than Cory.  Nelson & Hunter could be a legit threat on a season together if they could work with someone great.  Like if Hunter would buddy up with CT who could almost be a father figure for him.  Or if Nelson could build a friendship with Derrick or Darrell instead of referring to them as "the old *****".  Plus, it would help if Nelson had a brain.

Why is his social game bad? Because he doesn't conform to what you believe should be the challenge social standards? I'd prefer him to do what he wants than to kiss *** just to be at the bottom of somebody's allliance list. Besides, If he doesn't suck up to them what are they going to do? Put him in eliminations? We already know that he can win those. I'd rather watch someone not playing ***** than to watch whatever the **** Leroy is doing... what does he do? Does anybody know? Has anybody actually ever seen him compete? They may just slide the token in for the group shots.

I laughed so hard at this for some reason lol.

And what is Nelson aligning with Derrick and Darrell going to do? Those two are still going to be up Backpack's *** no matter what so he's still going to be a target. Those two aren't ones to rock the boat as we've seen on past seasons. 

lmao! Cory you idiot. How you on every season and go out second

He didn't go second.

kvm1977 wrote:

_tasha wrote:I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

Nelson's social game is as bad as Cory.  Well, almost as bad.  Nelson is a much better competitor than Cory.  Nelson & Hunter could be a legit threat on a season together if they could work with someone great.  Like if Hunter would buddy up with CT who could almost be a father figure for him.  Or if Nelson could build a friendship with Derrick or Darrell instead of referring to them as "the old *****".  Plus, it would help if Nelson had a brain.

Why is his social game bad? Because he doesn't conform to what you believe should be the challenge social standards? I'd prefer him to do what he wants than to kiss *** just to be at the bottom of somebody's allliance list. Besides, If he doesn't suck up to them what are they going to do? Put him in eliminations? We already know that he can win those. I'd rather watch someone not playing ***** than to watch whatever the **** Leroy is doing... what does he do? Does anybody know? Has anybody actually ever seen him compete? They may just slide the token in for the group shots.

Having a good social game means not causing unnesseccary drama like that blowup with Derrick on XXX. Having a good social game could be making nice with the women, even the ones who won't sleep with him. He was interested in Sylvia, she didn't reciprocate the same feelings so he lost his cool. Why not make friends with her, or someone like Kailah. Cory and Nelson should have Kailah in their back pocket but Cory treated her like garbage when he was through with her. That's terrible social game. They don't have to kiss up to anyone, just be friendly and show themselves trustworthy to other people other than each other. 

el_greco wrote:

lmao! Cory you idiot. How you on every season and go out second

He didn't go second.

Oop!

This johnnys new crew? they are walking together apart from the other guys 

uk? victor? idk who is 3rd, johnny, zach?

This johnnys new crew? they are walking together apart from the other guys uk? victor? idk who is 3rd, johnny, zach?

And this is reaching

I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.

Knowing that Godlicia could be one of the early boot is giving me anxiey

_tasha wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

_tasha wrote:I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.

Nelson's social game is as bad as Cory.  Well, almost as bad.  Nelson is a much better competitor than Cory.  Nelson & Hunter could be a legit threat on a season together if they could work with someone great.  Like if Hunter would buddy up with CT who could almost be a father figure for him.  Or if Nelson could build a friendship with Derrick or Darrell instead of referring to them as "the old *****".  Plus, it would help if Nelson had a brain.

Why is his social game bad? Because he doesn't conform to what you believe should be the challenge social standards? I'd prefer him to do what he wants than to kiss *** just to be at the bottom of somebody's allliance list. Besides, If he doesn't suck up to them what are they going to do? Put him in eliminations? We already know that he can win those. I'd rather watch someone not playing ***** than to watch whatever the **** Leroy is doing... what does he do? Does anybody know? Has anybody actually ever seen him compete? They may just slide the token in for the group shots.

Having a good social game means not causing unnesseccary drama like that blowup with Derrick on XXX. Having a good social game could be making nice with the women, even the ones who won't sleep with him. He was interested in Sylvia, she didn't reciprocate the same feelings so he lost his cool. Why not make friends with her, or someone like Kailah. Cory and Nelson should have Kailah in their back pocket but Cory treated her like garbage when he was through with her. That's terrible social game. They don't have to kiss up to anyone, just be friendly and show themselves trustworthy to other people other than each other. 

What the **** are you talking about? Like *****, he didn't show up to expand his social circle, he came to get paid. He seems fine with most of them outside of the game, but you can leave that friendly shit at the door.

I mean, the Young Bucks DID try to get Derrick on their side & although we never got to see it, clearly that didn't work out too well.

I forgot about that too lol.

But yeah...That kinda proves my point. Derrick is not going to join them and neither will Darrell. What are they supposed to do?

Knowing that Godlicia could be one of the early boot is giving me anxiey

Who dat in your avi?

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