wutzrenzi wrote:Bananas needs a break, so we can get diffrent storylines and diffrent power struggles. But that will never happen, so FREE POST
thats why seasons 2 was so great, it felt like such a different season with storylines, power shifts etc
My "New Generation" cast in the Fantasy thread would remedy this problem. :)Zzzzzroy needs to be put in another position where he has to play his own game.
Those that love that season conveniently pretnd it didn't almost get the show cancelledd leading to John's contact. Your cast isn't bad but it's very predictable on who makes the end. Ruling out old schoolers is idiotic as well given that Veronica has proven that she can still carry the show.
wutzrenzi wrote:Bananas needs a break, so we can get diffrent storylines and diffrent power struggles. But that will never happen, so FREE POST
thats why seasons 2 was so great, it felt like such a different season with storylines, power shifts etc
My "New Generation" cast in the Fantasy thread would remedy this problem. :)Zzzzzroy needs to be put in another position where he has to play his own game.
Those that love that season conveniently pretnd it didn't almost get the show cancelledd leading to John's contact. Your cast isn't bad but it's very predictable on who makes the end. Ruling out old schoolers is idiotic as well given that Veronica has proven that she can still carry the show.
I don't think so; there's a lot of people who could take out Leroy/Frank/Jordan depending on the elimination. Girls side can go either way too.
You know I love the Old Schoolers but with them doing these shows back-to-back-to-back now they should start switching it up casting wise (although we all know they won't). Nobody's watching MTV anyway & they've ruined any sliver of a reputation they had left with New TRL bombing terribly.
When did you all first start getting tired of seeing Bananas on your screen. For me it was the Duel because I hated him on Key West, and I honestly didn't want to see him again.
Will they finally replace Cory with Brian cause..... that's who we should of saw instead.
Brian would probably be an early boot too. You guys really think Cory is out early cause he sucks that bad? Honestly John is cast on this show with like 10 of his friends, none of these new guys can compete with a guy with all that political power let alone production's favorite. I assume Cory was sent home by someone in his alliance.
Dead @ some of you trying to blame Cory leaving early on others. How about Cory finally mans up and wins an elimination against a top player?. He’s doing nothing but embarrassing himself. This young bucs alliance thing is so funny and pathetic. You got Nelson and Hunter crying like little girls. Cory can’t win a mission or elimination like can he do anything right ?.
Production needs to stop this paranoia with the spoilers, everything get spoiled these days. Game Of Thrones episodes were leaked days before they air but they still had good ratings. They need to realise that if they want good ratings they need to produce good TV, not avoid spoilers
Will they finally replace Cory with Brian cause..... that's who we should of saw instead.
Brian would probably be an early boot too. You guys really think Cory is out early cause he sucks that bad? Honestly John is cast on this show with like 10 of his friends, none of these new guys can compete with a guy with all that political power let alone production's favorite. I assume Cory was sent home by someone in his alliance.
When is this it’s bananas and his friends fault gonna stop being the excuse ?. Players in the past have stuck around and defeated alliances before. ( wes fresh meat, ruins, duel then Derrick k on gauntlet 2)
wutzrenzi wrote:Bananas needs a break, so we can get diffrent storylines and diffrent power struggles. But that will never happen, so FREE POST
thats why seasons 2 was so great, it felt like such a different season with storylines, power shifts etc
My "New Generation" cast in the Fantasy thread would remedy this problem. :)Zzzzzroy needs to be put in another position where he has to play his own game.
Those that love that season conveniently pretnd it didn't almost get the show cancelledd leading to John's contact. Your cast isn't bad but it's very predictable on who makes the end. Ruling out old schoolers is idiotic as well given that Veronica has proven that she can still carry the show.
I don't think so; there's a lot of people who could take out Leroy/Frank/Jordan depending on the elimination. Girls side can go either way too.You know I love the Old Schoolers but with them doing these shows back-to-back-to-back now they should start switching it up casting wise (although we all know they won't). Nobody's watching MTV anyway & they've ruined any sliver of a reputation they had left with New TRL bombing terribly.
I'm not saying we need the same veterans. I'm saying limiting casting is stupid. I've been saying that forever. It has nothing to do with old schoolers--it's about themes ruining who actually shows up each year. On the guys side, the "kids" have proven time and time again they can't compete with the veterans. You and others want a season without veterans so one can finally win--although with your cast Jordan or Frank wins without any question. The girls side is better than the guys side. I don't want CT/John/Camila/Cara showing up over and over again but it isn't any worse than Cory/Nelson/Jenna showing up. Lots of people need a break. Lots of people. I don't want Veronica doing 5 in a row either but Veronica, unlike most of these people, can carry the show and, at least for now, her storyline is fresh.
Will they finally replace Cory with Brian cause..... that's who we should of saw instead.
Brian would probably be an early boot too. You guys really think Cory is out early cause he sucks that bad? Honestly John is cast on this show with like 10 of his friends, none of these new guys can compete with a guy with all that political power let alone production's favorite. I assume Cory was sent home by someone in his alliance.
Cory has a lot of room for improvement but when you have production in your back pocket then it's a uphill battle. I pretty much agree with what you're saying.
Lets be real...Cory showed he wasn't that great of a competitor when him and Ashley lost to Nate and Christina..and they were supposely one of the strongest teams there..
Cory had sooo much potential and then he just kept shitting the bed. I don't think he's really too worried about how far he gets anymore after getting 2nd and 3rd. He's fine being there for a bit, getting his check and bouncing.
Eddie1378 wrote:Tony,Nelson,Joss,Devin,and Shane need to align
Shane and Devin know better.
know better and do what? be 7th and 8th on bananas list? this would be the smart thing to do. Victor needs to link up with them as well.
Like getting eliminated one after another is better.They need to something different. Both alliances would bring those two down.
so you advocate to the dario strategy of doing absolutely nothing and bring nothing to the table and then get eliminated with barely a whisper and you are wallpaper on the edit? bananas has his boys. there is no upside whatsoever rocking with him. He will throw you to the wolves first chance he gets. I rather be at the top of a minority alliance than the bottom of a majority alliance.
Neither alliance will give them the safety they want. Nelzzzon thinks of himself and himself only, and that's not a person any smart person should trust. Lets also not act like if he had the power, he wouldn't act like John and start cutting people. This is my problem with you Nelson stans, like you choose to see what you want and ignore what's right in front of you.I'm also not saying joining up with John is smart because they would be at the bottom of that alliance too.Do something DIFFERENT. That's my point. It's the same people doing the exact same thing and it's getting BORING to watch.
lol Iets be real. You only think this way because you do not like Nelson. We all know this is where this thought process is coming from. You can use and weaponize Nelson if you are shane and devin who are smart dudes. Nelson is loyal to his crew. See invasion. Someone had to win that 3 way elimination. I am sure that is what you are referring to when you say he only thinks about himself. THis is not about nelson though. This is about ALL of those who are not on johns tit coming together.
Yawn. Again, you're just proving my point.Unlike you, I can be unbiased. I'm only making a point on what I've witnessed and that's just honestly how I see Nelson. If you don't, that's okay. I could care less lmao. Shane and Devin are smart guys and will figure it out, or so I hope.
how am I being biased? by saying you can weaponize him? you can. Shane and Devin need a guy like Nelson. Just like he needs 2 smart dudes. It is a beneficiall mutual partnership. Shane and Nelson worked well together all the way up to the 3 way elimination in invasion. You need as many strong guys on your side to go to war against the minions crew. Picking up nelson, victor, joss and kyle is just smart. Nelson is the only one they had a previous relationship with too. You said they will figure it out well all the rest are with bananas and he has a tight leash on them so not exactly like they have a lot of options lol
No, by overselling his usefulness, skill, and worth. That's just a general thing most of y'all do though.
Has Shane even forgiven him for what he did, or forgot what Nelson did, in that three-person elimination? Has he admitted that he understood it was a game move and that there were no hard feelings? If so, proof or not rl. But real talk, if he hasn't, there really is no point in Shane trusting Nelson. And for what? To get screwed over for the second time? Smh. It makes zero sense to trust someone who's done you dirty in the past, though if Shane solely weaponizes both sides, he might actually get to where he wants to be.
I think Cory is actually underrated on here and Veronica is overrated
Veronica is a three time champ that has come back after nearly a decade off and done far better socially and competitively than Cory did. Veronica is considered an average competitor that has outperformed all expectations.
Cory flopped again...predictably...he has the worst social game of all time. You can't truly believe what you said--if you do then you're clueless.
I think Cory is actually underrated on here and Veronica is overrated
Veronica is a three time champ that has come back after nearly a decade off and done far better socially and competitively than Cory did. Veronica is considered an average competitor that has outperformed all expectations.Cory flopped again...predictably...he has the worst social game of all time. You can't truly believe what you said--if you do then you're clueless.
still stand by what I said.Veronica had one good episode and now she can carry the show? Its not just you either. Everyone on here overrates her. Im not saying Cory is good but hes better than what you guys say he is. He doesnt suck he just doesnt have the ability like a Wes or Derrick K to climb from the bottom
Eddie1378 wrote:I think Cory is actually underrated on here and Veronica is overrated
Veronica is a three time champ that has come back after nearly a decade off and done far better socially and competitively than Cory did. Veronica is considered an average competitor that has outperformed all expectations.Cory flopped again...predictably...he has the worst social game of all time. You can't truly believe what you said--if you do then you're clueless.
still stand by what I said.Veronica had one good episode and now she can carry the show? Its not just you either. Everyone on here overrates her. Im not saying Cory is good but hes better than what you guys say he is. He doesnt suck he just doesnt have the ability like a Wes or Derrick K to climb from the bottom
LOL at one good episode. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Veronica's been a focus (if not the primary focuse) of 3-4 episodes so far and if you've seen the preview of the next episode you're going to be seeing her run shit yet again.
Cory, like Veronica, is an average competitor. Cory might even be slightly better than average but when your social game is as bad as his you need to be CT to even have a chance. Derrick & Wes couldn't win if they were as bad as he was at their worst. Cory's social game rivals Beth's.
You're very biased and clearly refusing to give Veroica credit for what she's done after all that time off. Veronica twice has outlasted Cory. Twice. And she did it the first time with no one other than Aneesa. Cory's an idiot--and a loser. Those are facts. If he doesn't learn from this season he shouldn't come back.
When did you all first start getting tired of seeing Bananas on your screen. For me it was the Duel because I hated him on Key West, and I honestly didn't want to see him again.
Inferno 3 with him never shutting the **** up about Cara.There is absolutely nothing about this oaf of a person that screams "lets put him on television consistently for the next 11 years". Not a damn thing but the way that privilege is set up though........
I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.
I can’t with Cory so much for the young bucs of the show #dead
Will they finally replace Cory with Brian cause..... that's who we should of saw instead.
Those that love that season conveniently pretnd it didn't almost get the show cancelledd leading to John's contact. Your cast isn't bad but it's very predictable on who makes the end. Ruling out old schoolers is idiotic as well given that Veronica has proven that she can still carry the show.
Pink already said someone else was eliminated before Cory, but she needs more confirmation on that person.
I don't think so; there's a lot of people who could take out Leroy/Frank/Jordan depending on the elimination. Girls side can go either way too.
You know I love the Old Schoolers but with them doing these shows back-to-back-to-back now they should start switching it up casting wise (although we all know they won't). Nobody's watching MTV anyway & they've ruined any sliver of a reputation they had left with New TRL bombing terribly.
the island did it for me
Brian would probably be an early boot too. You guys really think Cory is out early cause he sucks that bad? Honestly John is cast on this show with like 10 of his friends, none of these new guys can compete with a guy with all that political power let alone production's favorite. I assume Cory was sent home by someone in his alliance.
I low key hope it was bananas vs cory elimination
Dead @ some of you trying to blame Cory leaving early on others. How about Cory finally mans up and wins an elimination against a top player?. He’s doing nothing but embarrassing himself. This young bucs alliance thing is so funny and pathetic. You got Nelson and Hunter crying like little girls. Cory can’t win a mission or elimination like can he do anything right ?.
When is this it’s bananas and his friends fault gonna stop being the excuse ?. Players in the past have stuck around and defeated alliances before. ( wes fresh meat, ruins, duel then Derrick k on gauntlet 2)
i’m dead that tony knows he’s at the bottom of johns alliance but sides with him every season anyway
Melissa >>>>
I like Cory as a person..He is hott and funny..he is just dumb and not that great as a competitor.
I'm not saying we need the same veterans. I'm saying limiting casting is stupid. I've been saying that forever. It has nothing to do with old schoolers--it's about themes ruining who actually shows up each year. On the guys side, the "kids" have proven time and time again they can't compete with the veterans. You and others want a season without veterans so one can finally win--although with your cast Jordan or Frank wins without any question. The girls side is better than the guys side. I don't want CT/John/Camila/Cara showing up over and over again but it isn't any worse than Cory/Nelson/Jenna showing up. Lots of people need a break. Lots of people. I don't want Veronica doing 5 in a row either but Veronica, unlike most of these people, can carry the show and, at least for now, her storyline is fresh.
Cory has a lot of room for improvement but when you have production in your back pocket then it's a uphill battle. I pretty much agree with what you're saying.
Lets be real...Cory showed he wasn't that great of a competitor when him and Ashley lost to Nate and Christina..and they were supposely one of the strongest teams there..
Cory had sooo much potential and then he just kept shitting the bed. I don't think he's really too worried about how far he gets anymore after getting 2nd and 3rd. He's fine being there for a bit, getting his check and bouncing.
What do you want him to do? Work with Nelson/Cory...lol. At least working with John he gets extra cash by making the mid-point of the game.
I think Cory is actually underrated on here and Veronica is overrated
No, by overselling his usefulness, skill, and worth. That's just a general thing most of y'all do though.
Has Shane even forgiven him for what he did, or forgot what Nelson did, in that three-person elimination? Has he admitted that he understood it was a game move and that there were no hard feelings? If so, proof or not rl. But real talk, if he hasn't, there really is no point in Shane trusting Nelson. And for what? To get screwed over for the second time? Smh. It makes zero sense to trust someone who's done you dirty in the past, though if Shane solely weaponizes both sides, he might actually get to where he wants to be.
Brian sucks too!
Veronica is a three time champ that has come back after nearly a decade off and done far better socially and competitively than Cory did. Veronica is considered an average competitor that has outperformed all expectations.
Cory flopped again...predictably...he has the worst social game of all time. You can't truly believe what you said--if you do then you're clueless.
well Cory 2 seasons in a row has gone before Veronica so there is that
still stand by what I said.Veronica had one good episode and now she can carry the show? Its not just you either. Everyone on here overrates her. Im not saying Cory is good but hes better than what you guys say he is. He doesnt suck he just doesnt have the ability like a Wes or Derrick K to climb from the bottom
Veronica overrated on Vevmo? No way man. It’s not possible.
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LOL at one good episode. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Veronica's been a focus (if not the primary focuse) of 3-4 episodes so far and if you've seen the preview of the next episode you're going to be seeing her run shit yet again.
Cory, like Veronica, is an average competitor. Cory might even be slightly better than average but when your social game is as bad as his you need to be CT to even have a chance. Derrick & Wes couldn't win if they were as bad as he was at their worst. Cory's social game rivals Beth's.
You're very biased and clearly refusing to give Veroica credit for what she's done after all that time off. Veronica twice has outlasted Cory. Twice. And she did it the first time with no one other than Aneesa. Cory's an idiot--and a loser. Those are facts. If he doesn't learn from this season he shouldn't come back.
I wouldn't say priviledge...moreso luck.
I love everybody grouping Nelson in with Cory, acting like he's ever been beat individually.... Y'all can leave that worry shit alone, my baby daddy got this.
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