Imagine ur "bro" not pulling ur *** out of a fight knowing that will kick you off the show, and instead blowing his cig and making sure he's out the way while all the girls pull you back. That ain't ur bro, Nelson.
That was an okay episode, my standards of this season have been lowered anyway while it's playing out.
TJ, ****. The quitters shtick is old and unfunny.
I like that there was no Camila confessionals this episode but I skipped the aftershow as I know it's a cheap ploy to get her on the winning side with fans again. Hopefully the casuals don't fall for that MTV bullshit.
Pretty sad to see all of Marie, Cory, and Nicole leave.
Gorbo wrote:I'm so tired of the topic of racism. I'm also tired of the portrayal that only one race experiences racism. Coming from someone who was viciously bullied in middle school for being white, I know that racism goes in every direction, not just towards African americans. This whole notion that there is systemic racism and we live in a white supremacist nation is so tiring and false.
go ahead and stop bud
Yeah of course. I'm sure people will read that and think I'm "racist" or "insensitive" when in reality I am a realist speaking the truth. What I'm saying is politically incorrect but it's the truth
So... what ... did you think... happened in Charlottesville??
Charlottesville was terrible. Horrid racist whites committing terrible acts of violence. It disgusted me. Racism is alive and well, but it applies to all races and ethnicities. I can give you tons of examples of African Americans being racist in large groups as well. I acknowledge that racism exists. My issue is that it isn't on a systemic level and African Americans aren't the only victim of it
I think u need to look up what racial prejudice and racism means
Imagine ur "bro" not pulling ur *** out of a fight knowing that will kick you off the show, and instead blowing his cig and making sure he's out the way while all the girls pull you back. That ain't ur bro, Nelson.
Dead at Queen Cara having both Queeneesa and Marie pressed af ****. Marie really did suck in that redemption.
Judging by the preview we are most likely only going to have the mission. Im all for more footage but they need to have longer episodes if they want to do that.
Gorbo wrote:I'm so tired of the topic of racism. I'm also tired of the portrayal that only one race experiences racism. Coming from someone who was viciously bullied in middle school for being white, I know that racism goes in every direction, not just towards African americans. This whole notion that there is systemic racism and we live in a white supremacist nation is so tiring and false.
go ahead and stop bud
Yeah of course. I'm sure people will read that and think I'm "racist" or "insensitive" when in reality I am a realist speaking the truth. What I'm saying is politically incorrect but it's the truth
Ok Camila
Haha you guys are a bunch of leftist, delusional 5 year olds who don't know there *** from their elbow.
are you the type of person that thinks they are above people because they spent a couple of weeks wikipedia'ing politics?
No, I'm the type of person that has a brain.
are you ***uming anybody disagreeing with your poorly worded statement are brainless?
No I'm the type of person that expects someone to have a concrete and valid argument about systemic racism, instead of saying it exists with no examples while victimizing one group.
this man literally just said there are no examples.
GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF SYSTEMIC RACISM THEN. What is the government doing to prevent African Americans from flourishing in this country?
1. Gerrymandering - The government (both parties have done this, but currently the Republicans have been most effective at it) create voting boundries based on race, political orientation and socio-economically. For true equality there needs to be proportional representation. If there are 8 congressional seats available for your state you get 8 votes that you could vote all to one candidate or to 8 different candidates. This would allow more third parties, more minorities represented, more diversity and true representation.
2. Public Housing - Public Housing creates hotbeds of crime. This is a statistical fact. While some say that it is choice, it is not completely. If all you are surrounded by is crime and violence, you suffer ptsd pretty much your whole life. This is the whole nature versus nurture argument. I am of the mind that both exist and both are equally valid.
3. Education - Again we are going back to imaginary lines created by government to determine which students go to which schools and rezoning. If you go to any public school in a low income area, there are 50 students per cl*** and tons of distractions. Go to any public school in a high income area and you have 12-20 students per cl*** and tons of funds to cover the teachers, books, etc.
4. Policing - This is government controlled and again funded by imaginary lines created by the government. After living in both high and low income areas, I can guarantee you that the police force in high income areas is much more effective and constantly vigilant and response time is in the minutes instead of in the hours.
This is just a couple of examples. Again proportional representation and proportional funding state wide instead of by government mandated districts would drastically reduce a lot of the problems listed above. Proportional funding will never happen. I believe in socialism as a theory, but it does not work in reality. Proportional funding can happen on a state level, if we the people chose to make it happen. But without proportional representation we will never get that accomplished.
-**** i giggled at CT's colombian sugar comment. The lil cake scene was funny.
-Nicole spilling the teaaaa. The girls are so scared of Anessa, as they should be.
-Johnny and these ****** wigs *eye roll* we see them every season *yawns*
-Johnny was scared as **** when Tony was spazzin. Cause Johnny know if it came down to throwin hands he would get his *** swept across the floor. At what point do you get too old for this? Why can't he just be like CT and just chill tf out.
-Anessa and Nicole spoke nothing but facts about Camila.
-I like the dynamic between Marie, Anessa, Nicole, Hunter & Cory.
-This redemption challenge is DISGUSTING as ****. I woulda had to just take that ****** L. I would've been cryin like Jay did on exes2. Issa no for me.
-Like is this shit even ok to eat. I can't deal watching this
-I HOLLERED when TJ said those eyelashes on the cows eye matched Nicole. ****o he's not shit.
-This challenge stresses me out. Cause I really couldnt imagine eating this shit. It grosses me tf out.
-I peeped they haven't shown Camila this episode. Atleast I haven't seen her.
-Tori and Cara are annoying together. I just figured out Tori is a follower, she literally sounded like Cara when she said "i dont like the way she plays her game" I'm over Tori.
Marie being sarcastic and saying "I guess I have to practice eating water rats for this show"
sis you don't even work out for this show. So you're not going to practice anything either way. She should not come back for her benefit. She's just going to embarrass herself if she ever makes a final
Gorbo wrote:I'm so tired of the topic of racism. I'm also tired of the portrayal that only one race experiences racism. Coming from someone who was viciously bullied in middle school for being white, I know that racism goes in every direction, not just towards African americans. This whole notion that there is systemic racism and we live in a white supremacist nation is so tiring and false.
go ahead and stop bud
Yeah of course. I'm sure people will read that and think I'm "racist" or "insensitive" when in reality I am a realist speaking the truth. What I'm saying is politically incorrect but it's the truth
Ok Camila
Haha you guys are a bunch of leftist, delusional 5 year olds who don't know there *** from their elbow.
are you the type of person that thinks they are above people because they spent a couple of weeks wikipedia'ing politics?
No, I'm the type of person that has a brain.
are you ***uming anybody disagreeing with your poorly worded statement are brainless?
No I'm the type of person that expects someone to have a concrete and valid argument about systemic racism, instead of saying it exists with no examples while victimizing one group.
this man literally just said there are no examples.
GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF SYSTEMIC RACISM THEN. What is the government doing to prevent African Americans from flourishing in this country?
1. Gerrymandering - The government (both parties have done this, but currently the Republicans have been most effective at it) create voting boundries based on race, political orientation and socio-economically. For true equality there needs to be proportional representation. If there are 8 congressional seats available for your state you get 8 votes that you could vote all to one candidate or to 8 different candidates. This would allow more third parties, more minorities represented, more diversity and true representation.2. Public Housing - Public Housing creates hotbeds of crime. This is a statistical fact. While some say that it is choice, it is not completely. If all you are surrounded by is crime and violence, you suffer ptsd pretty much your whole life. This is the whole nature versus nurture argument. I am of the mind that both exist and both are equally valid.3. Education - Again we are going back to imaginary lines created by government to determine which students go to which schools and rezoning. If you go to any public school in a low income area, there are 50 students per cl*** and tons of distractions. Go to any public school in a high income area and you have 12-20 students per cl*** and tons of funds to cover the teachers, books, etc.4. Policing - This is government controlled and again funded by imaginary lines created by the government. After living in both high and low income areas, I can guarantee you that the police force in high income areas is much more effective and constantly vigilant and response time is in the minutes instead of in the hours.This is just a couple of examples. Again proportional representation and proportional funding state wide instead of by government mandated districts would drastically reduce a lot of the problems listed above. Proportional funding will never happen. I believe in socialism as a theory, but it does not work in reality. Proportional funding can happen on a state level, if we the people chose to make it happen. But without proportional representation we will never get that accomplished.
Do you understand that these problems apply to whites as well? So is the government systemically racist against whites too?- 39% of public housing is occupied by whites, whites make up 40% of food stamp recipients, and whites represent half of the public school attendees. The great thing about the United States is that we all have freedom of choice. Granted, if you are raised in a low income neighborhood surrounded by crime, then your plight will be more difficult. However, there are three rules to insure that you aren't permanently poor regardless of raise. 1) Don't have babies out of wedlock 2) Graduate from high school 3) Get a job. However, both blacks and whites suffer from these issues.
- As for gerrymandering, the best/most qualified candidates for whichever governmental position they apply for should get the job. There are blacks in congress and senate. Third party struggles apply to all races. It is going to be impossible for any third party to become relevant because of the power/strength/cash of the Republicans and Democrats. For example, the green party that never even comes close to receiving a significant portion of votes. Race isn't a factor.
- Your point about policing is pure conjecture. This isn't backed by any legitimate statistic, you are just stating a theory and trying to present it as a fact. I grew up in south yonkers and the south bronx. Both extremely low income areas, and now I live in a great neighborhood in Orlando and there hasn't been any noticeable difference in response time. That's another theory that you are presenting that isn't backed by any legitimate study. IF you can present me with a study that shows the average police response time between high and low income areas, then I can respect this point more.
& why the **** were Ammo, Jemmye & Anessa there? All they did was make it about themselves. They asked Ammo how he felt about what Camilla said & he goes on his cliche played out rant about how tough it was growing up Mormon & starts crying. Ammo is ******* weird & annoying life would've been hard for him growing up Mormon or not. Also can Jemmye just **** off with her entitlement towards this issue? "I'm really into black men, if someone says something racist to them what should I do?" ***** stuck up for your man! For what's right. I just COULDNT this episode what a dumb question. I cringed the entire time. I ******* hate Camilla but her corny *** apology was the highlight of the after show.
Two cents: There were a couple of things that stood out to me, in the midst of trite platitudes and pc mutual stroking. Leroy was nearly disregarded, after he was the target (I won't demean him by calling him a victim) of words and stupidity that started this particular event I found that annoying. When they spoke to Camila, her response of I don't even know why I said it... was echoed in sentiment by the "expert" saying that p***ive racism allows for the absorption of ignorance. Whether you love or hate Camila is irrelevant - looking at it objectively... Leroy said himself to her- you are going to cry tomorrow when you realize what you said to me. They have a relationship that is years long and know each other better than a tv glimpse of their lives gives us... so was the "expert" correct in the ***ertion that it was just the angry ranting of a drunk fool who knew that would have serious emotional impact or an in vino veritas moment that allowed her deeper truth to surface? We can't know.SO many people on this forum are quick to point out the flaws in others when they should be taking a hard look at the comments they make. There is a lot of hate in this world, but also a lot of love... I believe there is more good than bad. More people who could give a fiddlers **** about race than ******** who will find any reason to hate, usually because they hate themselves first and most. I believe that what you seek, you will find. That more often than not people who tell you all about the hatred of others, often harbor the most ill will and deepest anger toward mankind in general.Try to meet people where they are, if they are broken help them to see their ****** up distorted view of people rather than reinforce the generalizations and bias that have been ingrained. Try to be a little kinder than necessary
Marie being sarcastic and saying "I guess I have to practice eating water rats for this show" sis you don't even work out for this show. So you're not going to practice anything either way. She should not come back for her benefit. She's just going to embarrass herself if she ever makes a final
I can't even figure out who is male vs. female on here lol
Imagine ur "bro" not pulling ur *** out of a fight knowing that will kick you off the show, and instead blowing his cig and making sure he's out the way while all the girls pull you back. That ain't ur bro, Nelson.
That was an okay episode, my standards of this season have been lowered anyway while it's playing out.
TJ, ****. The quitters shtick is old and unfunny.
I like that there was no Camila confessionals this episode but I skipped the aftershow as I know it's a cheap ploy to get her on the winning side with fans again. Hopefully the casuals don't fall for that MTV bullshit.
Pretty sad to see all of Marie, Cory, and Nicole leave.
I think u need to look up what racial prejudice and racism means
casuals are going after Marie lmaoooo
"ooh this girl Maria knows TJ hates quitters!!!11!! #YOUREDONE!!!!1"
Was it Hunter? Not surprised....
That's actually Reddit too ****
Dead at Queen Cara having both
Queeneesa and Marie pressed af ****. Marie really did suck in that redemption.Judging by the preview we are most likely only going to have the mission. Im all for more footage but they need to have longer episodes if they want to do that.
Girl, don't start today.
Ain't nothing fine about her at all...
Just stopping by really quick to say this is the tenth episode where I forgot Dario was even there.
Girl wdym ? You dont want the mission and elimination to be in the same episode ?
Marie WAS this episode and ***** didn't even compete #Icon #StillAskedFiveYearsLater
I'm DEAD @ her smirking while TJ attempts to call her out. Her iconic exit confessional too >>>
I already forgot what she said ****
That's why we have so many commercials, they gotta pay for all these name brand artists music they're using..
Looked like spinach that was dressed to look like pig snot....
1. Gerrymandering - The government (both parties have done this, but currently the Republicans have been most effective at it) create voting boundries based on race, political orientation and socio-economically. For true equality there needs to be proportional representation. If there are 8 congressional seats available for your state you get 8 votes that you could vote all to one candidate or to 8 different candidates. This would allow more third parties, more minorities represented, more diversity and true representation.
2. Public Housing - Public Housing creates hotbeds of crime. This is a statistical fact. While some say that it is choice, it is not completely. If all you are surrounded by is crime and violence, you suffer ptsd pretty much your whole life. This is the whole nature versus nurture argument. I am of the mind that both exist and both are equally valid.
3. Education - Again we are going back to imaginary lines created by government to determine which students go to which schools and rezoning. If you go to any public school in a low income area, there are 50 students per cl*** and tons of distractions. Go to any public school in a high income area and you have 12-20 students per cl*** and tons of funds to cover the teachers, books, etc.
4. Policing - This is government controlled and again funded by imaginary lines created by the government. After living in both high and low income areas, I can guarantee you that the police force in high income areas is much more effective and constantly vigilant and response time is in the minutes instead of in the hours.
This is just a couple of examples. Again proportional representation and proportional funding state wide instead of by government mandated districts would drastically reduce a lot of the problems listed above. Proportional funding will never happen. I believe in socialism as a theory, but it does not work in reality. Proportional funding can happen on a state level, if we the people chose to make it happen. But without proportional representation we will never get that accomplished.
-**** i giggled at CT's colombian sugar comment. The lil cake scene was funny.
-Nicole spilling the teaaaa. The girls are so scared of Anessa, as they should be.
-Johnny and these ****** wigs *eye roll* we see them every season *yawns*
-Johnny was scared as **** when Tony was spazzin. Cause Johnny know if it came down to throwin hands he would get his *** swept across the floor. At what point do you get too old for this? Why can't he just be like CT and just chill tf out.
-Anessa and Nicole spoke nothing but facts about Camila.
-I like the dynamic between Marie, Anessa, Nicole, Hunter & Cory.
-This redemption challenge is DISGUSTING as ****. I woulda had to just take that ****** L. I would've been cryin like Jay did on exes2. Issa no for me.
-Like is this shit even ok to eat. I can't deal watching this
-I HOLLERED when TJ said those eyelashes on the cows eye matched Nicole. ****o he's not shit.
-This challenge stresses me out. Cause I really couldnt imagine eating this shit. It grosses me tf out.
-I peeped they haven't shown Camila this episode. Atleast I haven't seen her.
-Tori and Cara are annoying together. I just figured out Tori is a follower, she literally sounded like Cara when she said "i dont like the way she plays her game" I'm over Tori.
Marie being sarcastic and saying "I guess I have to practice eating water rats for this show"
sis you don't even work out for this show. So you're not going to practice anything either way. She should not come back for her benefit. She's just going to embarrass herself if she ever makes a final
Yeah Tori was being a follower of Caramaria....annoying af
I actually liked the redemption challenge. I wish it was an actual challenge.
Do you understand that these problems apply to whites as well? So is the government systemically racist against whites too?- 39% of public housing is occupied by whites, whites make up 40% of food stamp recipients, and whites represent half of the public school attendees. The great thing about the United States is that we all have freedom of choice. Granted, if you are raised in a low income neighborhood surrounded by crime, then your plight will be more difficult. However, there are three rules to insure that you aren't permanently poor regardless of raise. 1) Don't have babies out of wedlock 2) Graduate from high school 3) Get a job. However, both blacks and whites suffer from these issues.
- As for gerrymandering, the best/most qualified candidates for whichever governmental position they apply for should get the job. There are blacks in congress and senate. Third party struggles apply to all races. It is going to be impossible for any third party to become relevant because of the power/strength/cash of the Republicans and Democrats. For example, the green party that never even comes close to receiving a significant portion of votes. Race isn't a factor.
- Your point about policing is pure conjecture. This isn't backed by any legitimate statistic, you are just stating a theory and trying to present it as a fact. I grew up in south yonkers and the south bronx. Both extremely low income areas, and now I live in a great neighborhood in Orlando and there hasn't been any noticeable difference in response time. That's another theory that you are presenting that isn't backed by any legitimate study. IF you can present me with a study that shows the average police response time between high and low income areas, then I can respect this point more.
Marie quit? Tragic.
Two cents: There were a couple of things that stood out to me, in the midst of trite platitudes and pc mutual stroking. Leroy was nearly disregarded, after he was the target (I won't demean him by calling him a victim) of words and stupidity that started this particular event I found that annoying. When they spoke to Camila, her response of I don't even know why I said it... was echoed in sentiment by the "expert" saying that p***ive racism allows for the absorption of ignorance. Whether you love or hate Camila is irrelevant - looking at it objectively... Leroy said himself to her- you are going to cry tomorrow when you realize what you said to me. They have a relationship that is years long and know each other better than a tv glimpse of their lives gives us... so was the "expert" correct in the ***ertion that it was just the angry ranting of a drunk fool who knew that would have serious emotional impact or an in vino veritas moment that allowed her deeper truth to surface? We can't know.SO many people on this forum are quick to point out the flaws in others when they should be taking a hard look at the comments they make. There is a lot of hate in this world, but also a lot of love... I believe there is more good than bad. More people who could give a fiddlers **** about race than ******** who will find any reason to hate, usually because they hate themselves first and most. I believe that what you seek, you will find. That more often than not people who tell you all about the hatred of others, often harbor the most ill will and deepest anger toward mankind in general.Try to meet people where they are, if they are broken help them to see their ****** up distorted view of people rather than reinforce the generalizations and bias that have been ingrained. Try to be a little kinder than necessary
Teaching people that they are victims and personal responsibility CAN'T apply to them. Exactly the opposite of what any human should hear.
You mad?
Amen. Finally.
"name brand artist" ****
seriously, i had to turn that shit off. Turning her into a victim just to save face. Hey MTV we can see right through you.
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