Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
It would be glorious if the cast all jumped them though, I won't even lie.
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
I think we all agree her comments were appauling and that her hitting production should result in a permanent ban from the show.
I definitely understand what KVM is saying.Consider this though: supposedly Nia was somewhat still in the clear if she just stopped at poking Jordan. It wasn't until she called him a "******" (with there being a LOT of gay men in high positions at MTV) that they really put the "banhammer" down so to speak. Now for them knowing that Trashmila repeatedly called Leroy a ****** & even said racist stuff to Nelson & Amanda supposedly, if they really punished Nia for that & not the whole poking thing then there's a serious problem.This is an ongoing thing in society itself though: racist stuff gets kind of tossed to the side as an "oh, they'll get over it" type of thing but the moment you say something about gay people your entire world comes crashing down nowadays. Not to start no insane conversation (because I don't have time for that shit today) but this happens a lot nowadays. That's one of the issues I had with Ammo on GBOGH; you didn't hear a peep out of him about Jenna until she said "gay *** is disgusting". It's understandable because he's pan***ual but where was that same energy when she was saying stupid shit about CeeJai/Dean at the beginning?
"The world comes crashing down" line is infuriating. If someone said that about black people, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way. Don't try to prove a point by diminishing others struggle, especially since you know what it's like to be judged based on one quality
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
I honestly think it's funny at this point. I'm sitting her watching the Steelers-Brown with my boys and responding to comments while my wife enjoys a nice Sunday break from the kids. I'm awful. LOL
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
They're not the same thing.
Exactly--not even close.
Production didn't bring Emilee back for a while after cutthroat, they called for availability and that was it. She eventually came back but it took 4 years. Thats called not bringing someone back. Being banned means they wont call for your availability, they wont wait a few years, it means you're banned. Two totally different things.
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
He called me an awful human being for liking a cast member and he sounds like a maniac half the time he posts. He isn't some poor innocent victim
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This post is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Jesus people, all this rage because of opinions on a stupid reality show? Some people have absolutely no life.
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
He called me an awful human being for liking a cast member and he sounds like a maniac half the time he posts. He isn't some poor innocent victim
I know gaining my approval is high on your list of life goals.
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
He called me an awful human being for liking a cast member and he sounds like a maniac half the time he posts. He isn't some poor innocent victim
I know gaining my approval is high on your list of life goals.
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
This is what I was getting at with MYpost on the whole thing **** I don't know where I was "diminishing anybody's struggle" at but that is simply the truth.....this is what I'm seeing (and other melanin-rich people are seeing as well) in 2017. The actor Isaiah Washington is just now getting his career somewhat back on track after that whole thing with his Grey's Anatomy co-star. Then there's Azealia Banks which we'll be here allllllll day discussing her ****ooooo but she talks about the same things.
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
He called me an awful human being for liking a cast member and he sounds like a maniac half the time he posts. He isn't some poor innocent victim
I didnt victimize him ****, i just find it hilarious that you guys (youre not the first one to make this argument against him) cant understand that a sitemember is in a functional marriage.
This seems to get to you a bit, dont take peoples words to you here personally. You know who you are, dont worry about what anyone here thinks of you, its a fansite for a 20 year old reality show, not something that should hold any currency in your life.
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
Jenna's homophobia is likely internal tbh. Chris even said she'd probably be ******** if her family wasn't terrible
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
How do you know she hasnt learned ? I dont follow her on anything so i dont know her views anymore but by the end of the season she seemed to understand she was wrong.
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
They're not the same thing.
I'm still going to hold my ground and say they're pretty similar. There's a slight difference, but don't think it was worth having this long argument for because I used the word "ban."
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
From what I hear, Jenna T has learned. Zach, on the other hand, is a different story. He seemed a changed man on Seasons, but then we were witness to Exes 2 Zach, and his misogyny was appauling. I don't believe he jad learned anything, it was just a nice storyline.
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
This is what I was getting at with my post on the whole thing **** I don't know where I was "diminishing anybody's struggle" at but that is simply the truth in 2017. The actor Isaiah Washington is just now getting his career somewhat back on track after that whole thing with his Grey's Anatomy co-star. Then there's Azealia Banks which we'll be here allllllll day discussing her ****ooooo
I might've went overboard with that. But the way it was worded with " say anything about gay people and the world comes crashing down" left a bad taste in my mouth.
InternationalFan wrote:I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
From what I hear, Jenna T has learned. Zach, on the other hand, is a different story. He seemed a changed man on Seasons, but then we were witness to Exes 2 Zach, and his misogyny was appauling. I don't believe he jad learned anything, it was just a nice storyline.
Dude was treating Jonna terribly, total homophobe move
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
This is what I was getting at with MYpost on the whole thing **** I don't know where I was "diminishing anybody's struggle" at but that is simply the truth.....this is what I'm seeing (and other melanin-rich people are seeing as well) in 2017. The actor Isaiah Washington is just now getting his career somewhat back on track after that whole thing with his Grey's Anatomy co-star. Then there's Azealia Banks which we'll be here allllllll day discussing her ****ooooo but she talks about the same things.
Nit to diminish anyone's struggle, but melanin-rich people are not the only ones who are suffering racism right now.
InternationalFan wrote:I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
How do you know she hasnt learned ? I dont follow her on anything so i dont know her views anymore but by the end of the season she seemed to understand she was wrong.
You could be right, I'm basing my opinion off of her laughing at her friends awful comment towards Ceejai. But its been a few years maybe she has further educated herself.
InternationalFan wrote:I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
This is what I was getting at with my post on the whole thing **** I don't know where I was "diminishing anybody's struggle" at but that is simply the truth in 2017. The actor Isaiah Washington is just now getting his career somewhat back on track after that whole thing with his Grey's Anatomy co-star. Then there's Azealia Banks which we'll be here allllllll day discussing her ****ooooo
I might've went overboard with that. But the way it was worded with " say anything about gay people and the world comes crashing down" left a bad taste in my mouth.
That's my fault then but that wasn't my intention.
InternationalFan wrote:I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
This is what I was getting at with MYpost on the whole thing **** I don't know where I was "diminishing anybody's struggle" at but that is simply the truth.....this is what I'm seeing (and other melanin-rich people are seeing as well) in 2017. The actor Isaiah Washington is just now getting his career somewhat back on track after that whole thing with his Grey's Anatomy co-star. Then there's Azealia Banks which we'll be here allllllll day discussing her ****ooooo but she talks about the same things.
Nit to diminish anyone's struggle, but melanin-rich people are not the only ones who are suffering racism right now.
Not at all but melanin-rich folk (which does NOT mean "only so-called black people", all darker-hued people in general) suffer from it on a MUCH bigger scale.
It would be glorious if the cast all jumped them though, I won't even lie.
They're not the same thing.
We owe all the production member that got hit a gift
This dig at kvm is really common, he makes atleast 90% valid points imo, but ever once in a while some nancyboy like you get your feelings hurt here and go full nerd attack mode. How hard is it to comprehend a dude that likes the challenge who is close to 40 is married? Getting married isnt that hard unless ur an awkward ****.
Exactly--not even close.
Hit the nail right on the head.
***********.
I honestly think it's funny at this point. I'm sitting her watching the Steelers-Brown with my boys and responding to comments while my wife enjoys a nice Sunday break from the kids. I'm awful. LOL
Production didn't bring Emilee back for a while after cutthroat, they called for availability and that was it. She eventually came back but it took 4 years. Thats called not bringing someone back. Being banned means they wont call for your availability, they wont wait a few years, it means you're banned. Two totally different things.
He called me an awful human being for liking a cast member and he sounds like a maniac half the time he posts. He isn't some poor innocent victim
This post is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Jesus people, all this rage because of opinions on a stupid reality show? Some people have absolutely no life.
I dont see the problem with casting people who are racist/homophobic tbh. Jenna T was completely stupid and ignorant with what she said but it showcased that racism very much still exists, something most people dismiss. The Real world imo does a good job of casting people of different views and educating them and hopefully the viewers too.
I know gaining my approval is high on your list of life goals.
Haha, you're high
I get what you're saying but it is very hit or miss. Zach was a homophobe when San Diego was airing, and he educated himself by being in a new enviorment and found a gay bestfriend in Frank. That was fine. However you have people such as Jenna T. who don't learn.
This is what I was getting at with MY post on the whole thing **** I don't know where I was "diminishing anybody's struggle" at but that is simply the truth.....this is what I'm seeing (and other melanin-rich people are seeing as well) in 2017. The actor Isaiah Washington is just now getting his career somewhat back on track after that whole thing with his Grey's Anatomy co-star. Then there's Azealia Banks which we'll be here allllllll day discussing her ****ooooo but she talks about the same things.
I didnt victimize him ****, i just find it hilarious that you guys (youre not the first one to make this argument against him) cant understand that a sitemember is in a functional marriage.
This seems to get to you a bit, dont take peoples words to you here personally. You know who you are, dont worry about what anyone here thinks of you, its a fansite for a 20 year old reality show, not something that should hold any currency in your life.
Jenna's homophobia is likely internal tbh. Chris even said she'd probably be ******** if her family wasn't terrible
How do you know she hasnt learned ? I dont follow her on anything so i dont know her views anymore but by the end of the season she seemed to understand she was wrong.
I'm still going to hold my ground and say they're pretty similar. There's a slight difference, but don't think it was worth having this long argument for because I used the word "ban."
From what I hear, Jenna T has learned. Zach, on the other hand, is a different story. He seemed a changed man on Seasons, but then we were witness to Exes 2 Zach, and his misogyny was appauling. I don't believe he jad learned anything, it was just a nice storyline.
I might've went overboard with that. But the way it was worded with " say anything about gay people and the world comes crashing down" left a bad taste in my mouth.
Dude was treating Jonna terribly, total homophobe move
Nit to diminish anyone's struggle, but melanin-rich people are not the only ones who are suffering racism right now.
You could be right, I'm basing my opinion off of her laughing at her friends awful comment towards Ceejai. But its been a few years maybe she has further educated herself.
That's my fault then but that wasn't my intention.
Not at all but melanin-rich folk (which does NOT mean "only so-called black people", all darker-hued people in general) suffer from it on a MUCH bigger scale.
Can we all agree that racism is bad?
Racism = Bad
Assaulting a crew member = Bad
Camila Banned = Good
People who attacked kvm personal life/age like Gombo and Danish are really vile people. Like jfc
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