She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
kvm1977 wrote:Also, being a racist isn't a reason to be banned. I don't get that argument
Yes it is?
Why?
Because being racist isn't something that can just be "brushed off," because someone is a good competitor? You're leaving several contestants uncomfortable and sometimes alienated (from personal experience). Racism isn't an "opinion" like several people seem to think.
This is a reality based competition show. Racism is a part of the world. To ban someone because of racist comments just is illogical. Hate her for it but to be banned is primary about being a liability. Racism doesn't make it difficult to insure someone. I don't think you guys understand why people are banned.
I know WHY she's banned. And just because racism is part of this world doesn't make it acceptable/rewardable. Conversations with you are like talking to a brick wall. So, not today.
No one said acceptable. Read the words written. Hopefully you have a third grade education and can do so but apparently not. We're discussing "banning someone" that's done when someone can't be insured at a reasoable price. See the people banned.Camila is scum. We knew that long before this. Doesn't mean they can "ban" her for it. They could elect not to cast her because of it but it won't get her or anyone else banned.
I didn't say they banned her for being racist, I said they should. Once again, I know she's banned because she hit a member of production. You don't think someone should be banned for being racist, I think they should. I won't agree with you, and you won't agree with me.
Which proves my point. You don't comprehend why someone is banned. It isn't what your opiion is. Banning isn't about casting. It's about liability. Stop and think. Stop being emotional.
kvm1977 wrote:Also, being a racist isn't a reason to be banned. I don't get that argument
Yes it is?
Why?
Because being racist isn't something that can just be "brushed off," because someone is a good competitor? You're leaving several contestants uncomfortable and sometimes alienated (from personal experience). Racism isn't an "opinion" like several people seem to think.
This is a reality based competition show. Racism is a part of the world. To ban someone because of racist comments just is illogical. Hate her for it but to be banned is primary about being a liability. Racism doesn't make it difficult to insure someone. I don't think you guys understand why people are banned.
I know WHY she's banned. And just because racism is part of this world doesn't make it acceptable/rewardable. Conversations with you are like talking to a brick wall. So, not today.
No one said acceptable. Read the words written. Hopefully you have a third grade education and can do so but apparently not. We're discussing "banning someone" that's done when someone can't be insured at a reasoable price. See the people banned.Camila is scum. We knew that long before this. Doesn't mean they can "ban" her for it. They could elect not to cast her because of it but it won't get her or anyone else banned.
I didn't say they banned her for being racist, I said they should. Once again, I know she's banned because she hit a member of production. You don't think someone should be banned for being racist, I think they should. I won't agree with you, and you won't agree with me.
Which proves my point. You don't comprehend why someone is banned. It isn't what your opiion is. Banning isn't about casting. It's about liability. Stop and think. Stop being emotional.
Casuals are weird about race, I remember casuals wanting bananas banned for asking nany if she wanted a taco or quesadilla, when they were ******* Panama. But at the same time, were mad at ceejai for talking about being black too much. Yes people literally said that smh
She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Consider this though: supposedly Nia was somewhat still in the clear if she just stopped at poking Jordan. It wasn't until she called him a "******" (with there being a LOT of gay men in high positions at MTV) that they really put the "banhammer" down so to speak. Now for them knowing that Trashmila repeatedly called Leroy a ****** & even said racist stuff to Nelson & Amanda supposedly, if they really punished Nia for that & not the whole poking thing then there's a serious problem.
This is an ongoing thing in society itself though: racist stuff gets kind of tossed to the side as an "oh, they'll get over it" type of thing but the moment you say something about gay people your entire world comes crashing down nowadays. Not to start no insane conversation (because I don't have time for that shit today) but this happens a lot nowadays. That's one of the issues I had with Ammo on GBOGH; you didn't hear a peep out of him about Jenna until she said "gay *** is disgusting". It's understandable because he's pan***ual but where was that same energy when she was saying stupid shit about CeeJai/Dean at the beginning?
KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
If racism isn't a bannable offense, giving said racist a black eye & busted mouth shouldn't be either so ******* Jenna & Queen CeeJai should be in the clear.
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
Diamonds are Forever wrote:She isn't being banned for being racist shes being banned for hitting a production member...like why is this even a conversation lol
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
They aren't the same thing. Not even close. I can't stand stupidity. I really can't
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
kvm1977 wrote:Also, being a racist isn't a reason to be banned. I don't get that argument
Yes it is?
Why?
Because being racist isn't something that can just be "brushed off," because someone is a good competitor? You're leaving several contestants uncomfortable and sometimes alienated (from personal experience). Racism isn't an "opinion" like several people seem to think.
This is a reality based competition show. Racism is a part of the world. To ban someone because of racist comments just is illogical. Hate her for it but to be banned is primary about being a liability. Racism doesn't make it difficult to insure someone. I don't think you guys understand why people are banned.
Or maybe you see nothing wrong with racism because you deep down feel it's ok, especially when White do it on Coloured people, which wouldn't surprise me considering your age.Quit Internet please, you're way too old to be on here anyway.
There we go again with thhe age digs. This is so ******* stupid
Nobody is saying racism is ok. The think os people get banned when BMP's insurance company refuses to insure them because they're a liability. Racism doesn't have that effect. Do I want to see racists on tv? Absolutely not. I don't think they should be shown on a reality show that caters to teenagers. Kids look up to those people.
Like seriously, how ******* young are you people if you think 39 is old?!
It's the same people that think Veronica is too old to be on the show. They have be under 21. Next we're going to hear more nonsense about how it's awkward to watch Veronica talking to people 10 years younger than her.
Gorbo wrote:KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and your the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
I definitely understand what KVM is saying.Consider this though: supposedly Nia was somewhat still in the clear if she just stopped at poking Jordan. It wasn't until she called him a "******" (with there being a LOT of gay men in high positions at MTV) that they really put the "banhammer" down so to speak. Now for them knowing that Trashmila repeatedly called Leroy a ****** & even said racist stuff to Nelson & Amanda supposedly, if they really punished Nia for that & not the whole poking thing then there's a serious problem.This is an ongoing thing in society itself though: racist stuff gets kind of tossed to the side as an "oh, they'll get over it" type of thing but the moment you say something about gay people your entire world comes crashing down nowadays. Not to start no insane conversation (because I don't have time for that shit today) but this happens a lot nowadays. That's one of the issues I had with Ammo on GBOGH; you didn't hear a peep out of him about Jenna until she said "gay *** is disgusting". It's understandable because he's pan***ual but where was that same energy when she was saying stupid shit about CeeJai/Dean at the beginning?
"The world comes crashing down" line is infuriating. If someone said that about black people, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way. Don't try to prove a point by diminishing others struggle, especially since you know what it's like to be judged based on one quality
Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
kvm1977 wrote:Also, being a racist isn't a reason to be banned. I don't get that argument
Yes it is?
Why?
Because being racist isn't something that can just be "brushed off," because someone is a good competitor? You're leaving several contestants uncomfortable and sometimes alienated (from personal experience). Racism isn't an "opinion" like several people seem to think.
This is a reality based competition show. Racism is a part of the world. To ban someone because of racist comments just is illogical. Hate her for it but to be banned is primary about being a liability. Racism doesn't make it difficult to insure someone. I don't think you guys understand why people are banned.
I know WHY she's banned. And just because racism is part of this world doesn't make it acceptable/rewardable. Conversations with you are like talking to a brick wall. So, not today.
No one said acceptable. Read the words written. Hopefully you have a third grade education and can do so but apparently not. We're discussing "banning someone" that's done when someone can't be insured at a reasoable price. See the people banned.Camila is scum. We knew that long before this. Doesn't mean they can "ban" her for it. They could elect not to cast her because of it but it won't get her or anyone else banned.
I didn't say they banned her for being racist, I said they should. Once again, I know she's banned because she hit a member of production. You don't think someone should be banned for being racist, I think they should. I won't agree with you, and you won't agree with me.
Once again, they can't "ban" her for being racist. What they can do is decide not to cast her. And they should. But's a different thing, and that's what kvm is saying.
I definitely understand what KVM is saying.Consider this though: supposedly Nia was somewhat still in the clear if she just stopped at poking Jordan. It wasn't until she called him a "******" (with there being a LOT of gay men in high positions at MTV) that they really put the "banhammer" down so to speak. Now for them knowing that Trashmila repeatedly called Leroy a ****** & even said racist stuff to Nelson & Amanda supposedly, if they really punished Nia for that & not the whole poking thing then there's a serious problem.This is an ongoing thing in society itself though: racist stuff gets kind of tossed to the side as an "oh, they'll get over it" type of thing but the moment you say something about gay people your entire world comes crashing down nowadays. Not to start no insane conversation (because I don't have time for that shit today) but this happens a lot nowadays. That's one of the issues I had with Ammo on GBOGH; you didn't hear a peep out of him about Jenna until she said "gay *** is disgusting". It's understandable because he's pan***ual but where was that same energy when she was saying stupid shit about CeeJai/Dean at the beginning?
"The world comes crashing down" line is infuriating. If someone said that about black people, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way. Don't try to prove a point by diminishing others struggle, especially since you know what it's like to be judged based on one quality
Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
I think we all agree her comments were appauling and that her hitting production should result in a permanent ban from the show.
Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
Graphik wrote:I definitely understand what KVM is saying.Consider this though: supposedly Nia was somewhat still in the clear if she just stopped at poking Jordan. It wasn't until she called him a "******" (with there being a LOT of gay men in high positions at MTV) that they really put the "banhammer" down so to speak. Now for them knowing that Trashmila repeatedly called Leroy a ****** & even said racist stuff to Nelson & Amanda supposedly, if they really punished Nia for that & not the whole poking thing then there's a serious problem.This is an ongoing thing in society itself though: racist stuff gets kind of tossed to the side as an "oh, they'll get over it" type of thing but the moment you say something about gay people your entire world comes crashing down nowadays. Not to start no insane conversation (because I don't have time for that shit today) but this happens a lot nowadays. That's one of the issues I had with Ammo on GBOGH; you didn't hear a peep out of him about Jenna until she said "gay *** is disgusting". It's understandable because he's pan***ual but where was that same energy when she was saying stupid shit about CeeJai/Dean at the beginning?
"The world comes crashing down" line is infuriating. If someone said that about black people, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way. Don't try to prove a point by diminishing others struggle, especially since you know what it's like to be judged based on one quality
kvm1977 wrote:Also, being a racist isn't a reason to be banned. I don't get that argument
Yes it is?
Why?
Because being racist isn't something that can just be "brushed off," because someone is a good competitor? You're leaving several contestants uncomfortable and sometimes alienated (from personal experience). Racism isn't an "opinion" like several people seem to think.
This is a reality based competition show. Racism is a part of the world. To ban someone because of racist comments just is illogical. Hate her for it but to be banned is primary about being a liability. Racism doesn't make it difficult to insure someone. I don't think you guys understand why people are banned.
I know WHY she's banned. And just because racism is part of this world doesn't make it acceptable/rewardable. Conversations with you are like talking to a brick wall. So, not today.
No one said acceptable. Read the words written. Hopefully you have a third grade education and can do so but apparently not. We're discussing "banning someone" that's done when someone can't be insured at a reasoable price. See the people banned.Camila is scum. We knew that long before this. Doesn't mean they can "ban" her for it. They could elect not to cast her because of it but it won't get her or anyone else banned.
I didn't say they banned her for being racist, I said they should. Once again, I know she's banned because she hit a member of production. You don't think someone should be banned for being racist, I think they should. I won't agree with you, and you won't agree with me.
Once again, they can't "ban" her for being racist. What they can do is decide not to cast her. And they should. But's a different thing, and that's what kvm is saying.
Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
I think we all agree her comments were appauling and that her hitting production should result in a permanent ban from the show.
Right. And that's what all of this ultimatley comes down to.
Because people that lack the intelligence to comprehend simple things are saying she "should" be banned for those comments. Banning someone is about liability. If they wanted her kicked off the season (though that's irrational) or not cast in the future (more raeasonable) that would be fine but they're using the word ban which means they don't comprehend why people are banned. Ban = liability...not bad person. See Nia who's repeated actions including borderline sexual assault rule her out. Camila's just an awful human being
Which proves my point. You don't comprehend why someone is banned. It isn't what your opiion is. Banning isn't about casting. It's about liability. Stop and think. Stop being emotional.
Nope
Casuals are weird about race, I remember casuals wanting bananas banned for asking nany if she wanted a taco or quesadilla, when they were ******* Panama. But at the same time, were mad at ceejai for talking about being black too much. Yes people literally said that smh
KVM going overboard as usual with his in depth challenge analysis and 400 posts
It's true indeed. Sad but true from a "business" standpoint.
I definitely understand what KVM is saying.
Consider this though: supposedly Nia was somewhat still in the clear if she just stopped at poking Jordan. It wasn't until she called him a "******" (with there being a LOT of gay men in high positions at MTV) that they really put the "banhammer" down so to speak. Now for them knowing that Trashmila repeatedly called Leroy a ****** & even said racist stuff to Nelson & Amanda supposedly, if they really punished Nia for that & not the whole poking thing then there's a serious problem.
This is an ongoing thing in society itself though: racist stuff gets kind of tossed to the side as an "oh, they'll get over it" type of thing but the moment you say something about gay people your entire world comes crashing down nowadays. Not to start no insane conversation (because I don't have time for that shit today) but this happens a lot nowadays. That's one of the issues I had with Ammo on GBOGH; you didn't hear a peep out of him about Jenna until she said "gay *** is disgusting". It's understandable because he's pan***ual but where was that same energy when she was saying stupid shit about CeeJai/Dean at the beginning?
Says the person that likes one of the biggest ******** we've had on the show.
Fact is I don't tolerate stupidity or ignorance. You and others cause problems with that
The thing that YOU don't comprehend is that nobody here gives two shits what you tolerate. And I'm entitled to root for who I want. That's not the point
Which is the point. Say "never bring her back" due to the racist comments. I'll agree. Say "ban her from the show" then I have to point out that you are asking for something that can't happen. Thankfully she had a physical altercation and we're safe now.
And I'm allowed to acknowledge that you're an awful human being just like your hero
So you're really out here writing essays because I used the word "ban" rather than "never bring her back" like they literally aren't the same thing?
They aren't the same thing. Not even close. I can't stand stupidity. I really can't
Haha, and what basis do you have to conclude that I am an awful human being ?
Your comments and the picture you decided to use. It's okay to own who you are.
There we go again with thhe age digs. This is so ******* stupid
Nobody is saying racism is ok. The think os people get banned when BMP's insurance company refuses to insure them because they're a liability. Racism doesn't have that effect. Do I want to see racists on tv? Absolutely not. I don't think they should be shown on a reality show that caters to teenagers. Kids look up to those people.
Like seriously, how ******* young are you people if you think 39 is old?!
It's the same people that think Veronica is too old to be on the show. They have be under 21. Next we're going to hear more nonsense about how it's awkward to watch Veronica talking to people 10 years younger than her.
I actually feel bad for you. You're a loser and I find it hard to believe you're married. You probably still live in your mother's basement, eating Doritos and obsessing over contestants from the challenge and who likes them. If you are in fact married, I feel REALLY bad for your wife.
"The world comes crashing down" line is infuriating. If someone said that about black people, I'd imagine you'd feel the same way. Don't try to prove a point by diminishing others struggle, especially since you know what it's like to be judged based on one quality
Bottom Line: Camilla should not be brought back. Not just because of the racist comments but because of her assaulting production. The Production team are not there to be punching bags so keep your ******* hands off them.
Once again, they can't "ban" her for being racist. What they can do is decide not to cast her. And they should. But's a different thing, and that's what kvm is saying.
And how exactly was he doing that?
I think we all agree her comments were appauling and that her hitting production should result in a permanent ban from the show.
Right. And that's what all of this ultimatley comes down to.
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