wildcat777 wrote:confused on the winners situation... why did they film 2 different sets of people as winners? just so fans who were at the reunion didn't know who won or so they could just pick who they want to win later on... like does the cast even know yet? ...this is weird.
Production being extra lol
How stupid would it be if production decides to reveal Derrick and CM as winners because of the backlash that it should get with Camilla/Leroy situation.
Actually, it would be smart. I don't care if Camila finished 12 hours before Cara. Edit the **** out of this shit and make Cara/Derrick the winners. The show is fake anyway and they already tamper with the outcome whenever they feel like it. Having Camila as the winner after the horrible things she's said and done and after BANNING HER from attending the reunion is just wrong. They would be smart to do some creative editing.
So basically you allow Camilla to completely destroy the show and get awarded with money probably more than the actual prize money if she decides to sue the company/MTV.
I'm pretty sure MTV is smart enough to protect themselves through the contract the castmembers sign. It basically says the show is entertainment, so they're allowed to edit it creatively. I remember somebody posted it online a few years ago and it literally said they weren't liable for injury or death. I'm pretty sure they're not liable for changing the rules last minute and switching the winners because it's not a game show.
Pretty sure there are gameshow laws for preventing situations like this, if not wonderboy CT would have won rivals 1 and Diem would most deffinitly have won exes atleast.
That's why The Challenge isn't categorized as a game show. They changed it to "entertainment show" a while ago so they could tamper with the results.
Graphik wrote:When Get Out's origins were based on Leroy & Candice........like who raised them & told them they weren't shit? I could never live the life they lead ****oooooo
I can't speak for Candice, but Leroy was a foster child, bounced around Detroit from home to home till about the 7th grade he's said. Biological mother was/is a alcoholic, father was a drug addict that wasn't involved at all, but lived in the area. I thinks that's why I'm not as hard on him as I could be, he's had it pretty rough. I know the childhood has a large bearing on one's adulthood....
Now I did NOT know this.....wowwwww.This actually puts things in perspective for me b/c I truly didn't know.....I've definitely been very hard on him **** so to hear this makes me change my stance on him a bit. I still think he should be more assertive & play his own game but it makes sense now.That being said, where the **** was Candice's family at during all of this?
I have no idea, I just found about Candice when bloodlines started lol. He told his story on his Real World season, but went more in depth during interviews around the time it was airing. His mother would leave them for weeks at a time, and him and his sisters were like little children. That's why I think he's so go with the flow now, everything was so hectic and chaotic when he was younger...
I tuned in & out of their season ****ooo but ****. I still feel like he has a lot of......Uncle Tom-ish ways so to speak but it puts it in perspective as to why, so when he does whatever he does it can just be brushed off from now on.
He certainly can come off a little Uncle Tomish, and that's my main issue with him on the show. I do appreciate he's closer to Darrell than a Nelson, Derrick H, or Cory. They can really get on my nerves lol
wildcat777 wrote:confused on the winners situation... why did they film 2 different sets of people as winners? just so fans who were at the reunion didn't know who won or so they could just pick who they want to win later on... like does the cast even know yet? ...this is weird.
Production being extra lol
How stupid would it be if production decides to reveal Derrick and CM as winners because of the backlash that it should get with Camilla/Leroy situation.
Actually, it would be smart. I don't care if Camila finished 12 hours before Cara. Edit the **** out of this shit and make Cara/Derrick the winners. The show is fake anyway and they already tamper with the outcome whenever they feel like it. Having Camila as the winner after the horrible things she's said and done and after BANNING HER from attending the reunion is just wrong. They would be smart to do some creative editing.
So basically you allow Camilla to completely destroy the show and get awarded with money probably more than the actual prize money if she decides to sue the company/MTV.
I'm pretty sure MTV is smart enough to protect themselves through the contract the castmembers sign. It basically says the show is entertainment, so they're allowed to edit it creatively. I remember somebody posted it online a few years ago and it literally said they weren't liable for injury or death. I'm pretty sure they're not liable for changing the rules last minute and switching the winners because it's not a game show.
Pretty sure there are gameshow laws for preventing situations like this, if not wonderboy CT would have won rivals 1 and Diem would most deffinitly have won exes atleast.
That's why The Challenge isn't categorized as a game show. They changed it to "entertainment show" a while ago so they could tamper with the results.
No need to reiterate, if this is true. Make Kailah and Jenna the winners then, **** the gender categories. We all know what basket they are putting their eggs in now
"When Tori and CT got third Cara said she was surpised because she thought she got 3rd because Tori and Cara's time was seconds apart. So That would mean Camila won by a good bit."
How would she know this, though? If the final is based on time like the past few ones have been rather than the first to cross the finish line, you can't really determine who won/lost (unless they pull a Devyn).
"When Tori and CT got third Cara said she was surpised because she thought she got 3rd because Tori and Cara's time was seconds apart. So That would mean Camila won by a good bit."
Makes even less sense why they did two versions...
They should have went with the jury vote adding time to the final time of each competitor. The way they made this does NOT make any sense especially since/if production didn't allow Camilla to attend.
They should have went with the jury vote adding time to the final time of each competitor. The way they made this does NOT make any sense especially since/if production didn't allow Camilla to attend.
making jury vote wouldn't be fair, half the cast will vote for the most liked person not the person who deserves it the most.
^^^ I think was said by V1Man (as awful as he was/is, he did have a lot of knowledge on how all that shit works) a while back I think that this show was changed from being categorized from a game show to simply entertainment or something like that.
That is some filthy legal ninja shit by bmp or mtv, jesus ******* christ lol. If this is true then im jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon of all this shit is rigged. I knew they were shady, like having more swim missions on seasons with Wes or Sarah and the likes of that but holy shit.
Yeah I really don't know why we expect anything different with production at this point **** the moment they make people the "faces" of the show then they're going to cast based on those faces getting as far as possible.
That Reddit comment does seem to have some truth to it. The Camila part seems true about her being a liability. My question is that why did MTV wait until she hit production and threatened suicide to make her a liability? She should've been one a long time ago prob since Exes 1 when she threatened Johnny and never apologized for the Nutella incident (even Emily who was raised in a cult apologized ASAP). Glad to hear that other people besides Ammo said that they should show the clips. Besides if they don't, I remember Nicole said on her 15 min of blame that she will expose Camila regardless of MTV showing stuff
I really hope that the part about Cara most likely winning is true since that means Derrick will also win. Even if Jordan gets the same placement as Camila, I'm sure they'll still give him his money. Not like they were pairs the whole season and she DQed during the show like Vinny/Trashelle/Sarah/Nia.
They should have went with the jury vote adding time to the final time of each competitor. The way they made this does NOT make any sense especially since/if production didn't allow Camilla to attend.
making jury vote wouldn't be fair, half the cast will vote for the most liked person not the person who deserves it the most.
I don't see the issue with that. People can vote for whomever for whatever reason they want to.
Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
I'd love for them to go back to that honestly.
same makes it much more competitive, look how close Brad and Wes were and even Svet wasnt that far behind Jodi
Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
challenge13 wrote:Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
I'd love for them to go back to that honestly.
same makes it much more competitive, look how close Brad and Wes were and even Svet wasnt that far behind Jodi
IMO Brad vs Wes was one of the most competitive finals ever, if not the most.
Also if Derrick did win this, he'd be the next person to join the 4 time winner's club. I LOVE Derrick and Darrell but still that circle of winners will never be complete since it will always be missing one person: Landon
They should have went with the jury vote adding time to the final time of each competitor. The way they made this does NOT make any sense especially since/if production didn't allow Camilla to attend.
making jury vote wouldn't be fair, half the cast will vote for the most liked person not the person who deserves it the most.
While I think most of the people would have voted for the one that deserves the most regardless, but doing only two alternative winners and then not allowing one of them to attend is just plain stupid idea. The reunion is suppose to be where things are talked about and the season should end while the cast is there too discuss it. Now you are just dragging it.This production team clearly has no issue in keeping a major part of this season's game a secret until the very end (1 million) so why not just go ahead and make it an interesting twist with the final (Jury votes additing time). The finalist themselves thought that the final was very flat and basically not finished. They kept the times a secret for what now?
challenge13 wrote:Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
I'd love for them to go back to that honestly.
same makes it much more competitive, look how close Brad and Wes were and even Svet wasnt that far behind Jodi
IMO Brad vs Wes was one of the most competitive finals ever, if not the most. This final seems cool but not close zzzz
agreed. Brad vs Wes really had me on the edge of my seat. Well Brad is good at finals. He did very well on both Duels, Gauntlet 3 (even with Easy dead), and if Tori lost an elimination, Brad, Tyler, and Dunbar would've really won like light years ahead of half of gray. But the partner stuff is really frustrating. It can make or break a competitor. Laurel would've beaten Nany by wayyyy more than 9 min had Zach not thrown a tantrum. Plus anyone who had Cory on invasion automatically had their times dragged
How did Marie and Cara's rivalry even start? I love Cara but she better be careful she gonna get slammed into a potted plant one of these days!
I truly truly truly believe that Cara Maria is self conscious about BOTS2 when Cara Maria got slammed by Marie. That's why she likes things that shades Marie and when someone brought up the wrestling match she brought up A) B ) and C) excuses
Omg I bet this is true, and it also reminds me of why I think Laurel hated Cara on Cutthroat. Because on FM2 Cara was chosen first (on camera at least) from the girls plus she did more pull-ups than Laurel. Laurel would always talk about how Cara cheated on the pull-ups and wasn't doing them right lol. These girls needs to simmer down, but then I guess the reunion would've been even bigger of a flop w/o the petty drama!
That's why The Challenge isn't categorized as a game show. They changed it to "entertainment show" a while ago so they could tamper with the results.
If Dirty 30 gets Camila banned it is by automatically a great season
So by logic.....
Ashley M > Camila > Emily S > CaraMaria
He certainly can come off a little Uncle Tomish, and that's my main issue with him on the show. I do appreciate he's closer to Darrell than a Nelson, Derrick H, or Cory. They can really get on my nerves lol
No need to reiterate, if this is true. Make Kailah and Jenna the winners then, **** the gender categories. We all know what basket they are putting their eggs in now
so this season probb last time camila on the challenge....i truly hope she finds peace and a new life lile nany did.
I've never been impressed by Cara during finals, not even when she won. It doesn't surprise me that the devil could have possibly beat her.
lmaooooo
How would she know this, though? If the final is based on time like the past few ones have been rather than the first to cross the finish line, you can't really determine who won/lost (unless they pull a Devyn).
Makes even less sense why they did two versions...
Wow Gamer is really poppin out here
derrick will only be 60K behind Bananas for most prize money if he wins this
They should have went with the jury vote adding time to the final time of each competitor. The way they made this does NOT make any sense especially since/if production didn't allow Camilla to attend.
making jury vote wouldn't be fair, half the cast will vote for the most liked person not the person who deserves it the most.
Yeah I really don't know why we expect anything different with production at this point **** the moment they make people the "faces" of the show then they're going to cast based on those faces getting as far as possible.
"Everything else was in pairs for the most part."
WHY can we never have a true individual final?! we don't want pairs anymore in the final!!
"Everything else was in pairs for the most part."
WHY can we never have a true individual final?! we don't want pairs anymore in the final!!
That Reddit comment does seem to have some truth to it. The Camila part seems true about her being a liability. My question is that why did MTV wait until she hit production and threatened suicide to make her a liability? She should've been one a long time ago prob since Exes 1 when she threatened Johnny and never apologized for the Nutella incident (even Emily who was raised in a cult apologized ASAP). Glad to hear that other people besides Ammo said that they should show the clips. Besides if they don't, I remember Nicole said on her 15 min of blame that she will expose Camila regardless of MTV showing stuff
I really hope that the part about Cara most likely winning is true since that means Derrick will also win. Even if Jordan gets the same placement as Camila, I'm sure they'll still give him his money. Not like they were pairs the whole season and she DQed during the show like Vinny/Trashelle/Sarah/Nia.
I don't see the issue with that. People can vote for whomever for whatever reason they want to.
Just a theory - They are in pairs due to production consumption. MTV isn't going to send out 6 camera men to film each indidual player for X amount of days. 2-3, yes but 6...its just crazy. They should think about changing it to 4 people in finals like they did with the Duel 1.
The final was 6 days?
No i dont think so. I said 6 individual camera men referring to them filming 6 individual players
I'd love for them to go back to that honestly.
same makes it much more competitive, look how close Brad and Wes were and even Svet wasnt that far behind Jodi
same
IMO Brad vs Wes was one of the most competitive finals ever, if not the most.
This final seems cool but not close zzzz
Also if Derrick did win this, he'd be the next person to join the 4 time winner's club. I LOVE Derrick and Darrell but still that circle of winners will never be complete since it will always be missing one person: Landon
While I think most of the people would have voted for the one that deserves the most regardless, but doing only two alternative winners and then not allowing one of them to attend is just plain stupid idea. The reunion is suppose to be where things are talked about and the season should end while the cast is there too discuss it. Now you are just dragging it.This production team clearly has no issue in keeping a major part of this season's game a secret until the very end (1 million) so why not just go ahead and make it an interesting twist with the final (Jury votes additing time). The finalist themselves thought that the final was very flat and basically not finished. They kept the times a secret for what now?
agreed. Brad vs Wes really had me on the edge of my seat. Well Brad is good at finals. He did very well on both Duels, Gauntlet 3 (even with Easy dead), and if Tori lost an elimination, Brad, Tyler, and Dunbar would've really won like light years ahead of half of gray. But the partner stuff is really frustrating. It can make or break a competitor. Laurel would've beaten Nany by wayyyy more than 9 min had Zach not thrown a tantrum. Plus anyone who had Cory on invasion automatically had their times dragged
Omg I bet this is true, and it also reminds me of why I think Laurel hated Cara on Cutthroat. Because on FM2 Cara was chosen first (on camera at least) from the girls plus she did more pull-ups than Laurel. Laurel would always talk about how Cara cheated on the pull-ups and wasn't doing them right lol. These girls needs to simmer down, but then I guess the reunion would've been even bigger of a flop w/o the petty drama!
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