It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
But nobody has ever hyped her up to being a strong *** competitor. We support her due to her being likable, having a personality, and not going along with bandwagon shit (playing her own game).
This is just funny. Okay, so you admit she's a lousy competitor and unwilling to play the game to get far--gotcha.
It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
But nobody has ever hyped her up to being a strong *** competitor. We support her due to her being likable, having a personality, and not going along with bandwagon shit (playing her own game).
This is just funny. Okay, so you admit she's a lousy competitor and unwilling to play the game to get far--gotcha.
Marie is an average competitor. & she showed last episode that she can play the game for herself. Quit twisting words kthx
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
But nobody has ever hyped her up to being a strong *** competitor. We support her due to her being likable, having a personality, and not going along with bandwagon shit (playing her own game).
This is just funny. Okay, so you admit she's a lousy competitor and unwilling to play the game to get far--gotcha.
Marie is an average competitor. & she showed last episode that she can play the game for herself. Quit twisting words kthx
Unless you're Landon you need to play the game. If she's an average competitor she needs to align with strong competitors and use them to a certain point in the game. Kailah & Jenna are supposedly her friends yet she didn't keep them around longer to advance her game? Great game play. You have to be elite to play your own game. She's not and needs numbers. Focus on the social game, make sure people like Jemmye execute your plan and lay low early. Otherwise you're going to be gone very soon. These people, like Cory, that want to make big moves early as just asking to get sent home or to redemption. Wouldn't be shocked if Veronica & Aneesa convince Kailah to target Marie now.
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I'm 25 & don't too many people have that type of influence on my mind lol
She sent home Jenna instead of Camila......like are we supposed to care that she sent one clown home instead of another one?
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age to where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I don't know lmaooooo
Because when someone is overhyped I'm going to state that. I think it's bullshit we keep hearing how great Marie is and how much we need her then she shows up and does nothing. Then people try to give her credit for a move when she failed to execute. Let's be real--give her credit for the effort and acknowledged it didn't work the way she wanted. That's all you have to say. Camila vs. Kailah was a great idea with poor execution and now Marie made herself a bigger target by going after one person that was most likely to work with her. Who's going to trust her now?
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
But nobody has ever hyped her up to being a strong *** competitor. We support her due to her being likable, having a personality, and not going along with bandwagon shit (playing her own game).
This is just funny. Okay, so you admit she's a lousy competitor and unwilling to play the game to get far--gotcha.
Marie is an average competitor. & she showed last episode that she can play the game for herself. Quit twisting words kthx
Unless you're Landon you need to play the game. If she's an average competitor she needs to align with strong competitors and use them to a certain point in the game. Kailah & Jenna are supposedly her friends yet she didn't keep them around longer to advance her game? Great game play. You have to be elite to play your own game. She's not and needs numbers. Focus on the social game, make sure people like Jemmye execute your plan and lay low early. Otherwise you're going to be gone very soon. These people, like Cory, that want to make big moves early as just asking to get sent home or to redemption. Wouldn't be shocked if Veronica & Aneesa convince Kailah to target Marie now.
She goes with the numbers shes disposed of, she doesn't shes disposed of. The problem is a lot more people have people from their season with them than Marie and Latoya, so the usually are picked off because others "don't have a close relationship" with them. I'd rather play my own game if that meant a better chance to stay.
Must be doing something right when she has you talking about her in two other threads. Especially when you brought her up both times ****
Just pointing out that there's more proof you were wrong. Jonna & Kim rated higher than her. So as Cara and Susie will be as well.
If you'd simply stop making her out to be something she's not I wouldn't post about her ever. Hopefully if she's on S31 or S32 her gameplay is better and she hits the gym hard
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
But nobody has ever hyped her up to being a strong *** competitor. We support her due to her being likable, having a personality, and not going along with bandwagon shit (playing her own game).
This is just funny. Okay, so you admit she's a lousy competitor and unwilling to play the game to get far--gotcha.
Marie is an average competitor. & she showed last episode that she can play the game for herself. Quit twisting words kthx
Unless you're Landon you need to play the game. If she's an average competitor she needs to align with strong competitors and use them to a certain point in the game. Kailah & Jenna are supposedly her friends yet she didn't keep them around longer to advance her game? Great game play. You have to be elite to play your own game. She's not and needs numbers. Focus on the social game, make sure people like Jemmye execute your plan and lay low early. Otherwise you're going to be gone very soon. These people, like Cory, that want to make big moves early as just asking to get sent home or to redemption. Wouldn't be shocked if Veronica & Aneesa convince Kailah to target Marie now.
She goes with the numbers shes disposed of, she doesn't shes disposed of. The problem is a lot more people have people from their season with them than Marie and Latoya, so the usually are picked off because others "don't have a close relationship" with them. I'd rather play my own game if that meant a better chance to stay.
How is it a better chance to stay? She showed her hand way too early--just like Cory. You really don't think Jemmye, Veronica, Aneesa & Cara aren't going to throw her in if they get a chance. Would you trust her after she just voted in "a friend" this early in the game when she had a better option in Camila? She did play the team game. She voted with the team because she incorrectly believed she knew Jemmye better than CT
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I'm 25 & don't too many people have that type of influence on my mind lolShe sent home Jenna instead of Camila......like are we supposed to care that she sent one clown home instead of another one?
Right lol. I mean when you look at it like that could you really consider what Marie did a flop?
Marie wanted to send home Kailah or Camila...neither went home. Jenna's a decent consolation prize but it wasn't the intended goal. Her plan flopped. Getting rid of Jenna isn't getting rid of someone capable of winning a final--at least not IMO
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age to where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I don't know lmaooooo
Because when someone is overhyped I'm going to state that. I think it's bullshit we keep hearing how great Marie is and how much we need her then she shows up and does nothing. Then people try to give her credit for a move when she failed to execute. Let's be real--give her credit for the effort and acknowledged it didn't work the way she wanted. That's all you have to say. Camila vs. Kailah was a great idea with poor execution and now Marie made herself a bigger target by going after one person that was most likely to work with her. Who's going to trust her now?
Without Marie, who in that house has a plot in mind to send Camila OR Kailah ORJenna home? Marie herself didn't give a shit as much as you do lmaooooo either way, those were three people she wanted to see go early; one of them went early. She's gunning fo r & sending people home who I don't like, you **** right we need Marie on this show right now.
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age to where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I don't know lmaooooo
Because when someone is overhyped I'm going to state that. I think it's bullshit we keep hearing how great Marie is and how much we need her then she shows up and does nothing. Then people try to give her credit for a move when she failed to execute. Let's be real--give her credit for the effort and acknowledged it didn't work the way she wanted. That's all you have to say. Camila vs. Kailah was a great idea with poor execution and now Marie made herself a bigger target by going after one person that was most likely to work with her. Who's going to trust her now?
Without Marie, who in that house has a plot in mind to send Camila OR Kailah ORJenna home? Marie herself didn't give a shit as much as you do lmaooooo either way, those were three people she wanted to see go early; one of them went early. She's gunning fo r & sending people home who I don't like, you **** right we need Marie on this show right now.
Let's see how that poorly executed game move pays off...
And, yes, I believe Aneesa & Veronica...and Tori...would have been more than willing to send in Camila or Kailah and would have brought it up. Aneesa will always speak her mind and hates Camila.
And, yes, I believe Aneesa & Veronica...and Tori...would have been more than willing to send in Camila or Kailah and would have brought it up. Aneesa will always speak her mind and hates Camila.
And at that point, no matter how much I like all 3 none of them were doing it. It was Marie pulling that trigger.
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age to where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I don't know lmaooooo
Because when someone is overhyped I'm going to state that. I think it's bullshit we keep hearing how great Marie is and how much we need her then she shows up and does nothing. Then people try to give her credit for a move when she failed to execute. Let's be real--give her credit for the effort and acknowledged it didn't work the way she wanted. That's all you have to say. Camila vs. Kailah was a great idea with poor execution and now Marie made herself a bigger target by going after one person that was most likely to work with her. Who's going to trust her now?
Without Marie, who in that house has a plot in mind to send Camila OR Kailah ORJenna home? Marie herself didn't give a shit as much as you do lmaooooo either way, those were three people she wanted to see go early; one of them went early. She's gunning fo r & sending people home who I don't like, you **** right we need Marie on this show right now.
Let's see how that poorly executed game move pays off...
Well she's gonna be a target if she did it or not. It's between her, britni, and nicole as the non essentials in that group. So I don't think it really matters, and she knew it.
kvm1977 wrote:It's a shame when people have to overhype someone causing me to hate them. If people were just honest about Marie I wouldn't have any issue. She has potential but continually fails to live up to it. I was fine with her coming back again and again. Now, if she does, I hope she suffers the same fate she had on Invasion.
Why are you letting people do or cause anything to your view/perception on such a non-issue ? You're almost 40 lmaoooooo
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age to where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I don't know lmaooooo
Because when someone is overhyped I'm going to state that. I think it's bullshit we keep hearing how great Marie is and how much we need her then she shows up and does nothing. Then people try to give her credit for a move when she failed to execute. Let's be real--give her credit for the effort and acknowledged it didn't work the way she wanted. That's all you have to say. Camila vs. Kailah was a great idea with poor execution and now Marie made herself a bigger target by going after one person that was most likely to work with her. Who's going to trust her now?
Without Marie, who in that house has a plot in mind to send Camila OR Kailah ORJenna home? Marie herself didn't give a shit as much as you do lmaooooo either way, those were three people she wanted to see go early; one of them went early. She's gunning fo r & sending people home who I don't like, you **** right we need Marie on this show right now.
KVM and others too I suppose have more of an issue against users who are fans of Marie , not Marie herself because of how hard we root for her. It's no different than every other season when a fan favorite gets slack from others. Invasion wasn't her best as she was sent home first and we know that. In my eyes, she's had stand out moments and has entertained me in the past enough for me to want to continue to see her appear on the shows. I'll root for her however I like, I know not everyone likes everyone. I just don't understand why it's being analyzed so seriously that she hasn't made a final or won yet. Since when are we scouting challengers and when they make or don't make a final on here? She's on her 3rd show and it's still airing. I've been a fan of so many challengers who haven't come close to a final and they've done so many more shows. I truly believe Marie does have the potential to possibly / probably make it to a final based on what we've seen her do on previous challenges. She had a 5 year break in between challenges also, it's not like shes been consecutively doing challenges. I have high hopes but wouldn't hold her or anyone for that matter to anything like people are doing here. It's just seeming like more of a vendetta against users here for some people who don't like the praise shes received. It is what is...agree to disagree I suppose.
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This is just funny. Okay, so you admit she's a lousy competitor and unwilling to play the game to get far--gotcha.
Age is irrelevant when anything is hyped and it doesn't live up the hype you're going to have that much more of a negative opinion of that person or thing. Let's just be real.
Marie is an average competitor. & she showed last episode that she can play the game for herself. Quit twisting words kthx
Unless you're Landon you need to play the game. If she's an average competitor she needs to align with strong competitors and use them to a certain point in the game. Kailah & Jenna are supposedly her friends yet she didn't keep them around longer to advance her game? Great game play. You have to be elite to play your own game. She's not and needs numbers. Focus on the social game, make sure people like Jemmye execute your plan and lay low early. Otherwise you're going to be gone very soon. These people, like Cory, that want to make big moves early as just asking to get sent home or to redemption. Wouldn't be shocked if Veronica & Aneesa convince Kailah to target Marie now.
What does age have to do with anything here? Disagreeing with someone is meant for certain age groups now???? Please.
Marie was hardly hyped though, at least not compared to Jenna who's overhyped/overrated on a GRAND scale. My thing is if your reaction to her was initially positive/neutral, why are you letting people you never met sway that when you're at an age where that shouldn't be an issue? *shrugs* I'm 25 & don't too many people have that type of influence on my mind lol
She sent home Jenna instead of Camila......like are we supposed to care that she sent one clown home instead of another one?
Who in the **** said that?
Must be doing something right when she has you talking about her in two other threads. Especially when you brought her up both times ****
Because when someone is overhyped I'm going to state that. I think it's bullshit we keep hearing how great Marie is and how much we need her then she shows up and does nothing. Then people try to give her credit for a move when she failed to execute. Let's be real--give her credit for the effort and acknowledged it didn't work the way she wanted. That's all you have to say. Camila vs. Kailah was a great idea with poor execution and now Marie made herself a bigger target by going after one person that was most likely to work with her. Who's going to trust her now?
She goes with the numbers shes disposed of, she doesn't shes disposed of. The problem is a lot more people have people from their season with them than Marie and Latoya, so the usually are picked off because others "don't have a close relationship" with them. I'd rather play my own game if that meant a better chance to stay.
Just pointing out that there's more proof you were wrong. Jonna & Kim rated higher than her. So as Cara and Susie will be as well.
If you'd simply stop making her out to be something she's not I wouldn't post about her ever. Hopefully if she's on S31 or S32 her gameplay is better and she hits the gym hard
How is it a better chance to stay? She showed her hand way too early--just like Cory. You really don't think Jemmye, Veronica, Aneesa & Cara aren't going to throw her in if they get a chance. Would you trust her after she just voted in "a friend" this early in the game when she had a better option in Camila? She did play the team game. She voted with the team because she incorrectly believed she knew Jemmye better than CT
I'm sure you'll be keeping up to see if she does.
Right lol. I mean when you look at it like that could you really consider what Marie did a flop?
Marie wanted to send home Kailah or Camila...neither went home. Jenna's a decent consolation prize but it wasn't the intended goal. Her plan flopped. Getting rid of Jenna isn't getting rid of someone capable of winning a final--at least not IMO
Without Marie, who in that house has a plot in mind to send Camila OR Kailah ORJenna home? Marie herself didn't give a shit as much as you do lmaooooo either way, those were three people she wanted to see go early; one of them went early. She's gunning fo r & sending people home who I don't like, you **** right we need Marie on this show right now.
Let's see how that poorly executed game move pays off...
And, yes, I believe Aneesa & Veronica...and Tori...would have been more than willing to send in Camila or Kailah and would have brought it up. Aneesa will always speak her mind and hates Camila.
And at that point, no matter how much I like all 3 none of them were doing it. It was Marie pulling that trigger.
Well she's gonna be a target if she did it or not. It's between her, britni, and nicole as the non essentials in that group. So I don't think it really matters, and she knew it.
Her instagram photos are everything! Such a beautiful goddess.
Queens of Dirty XXX: Marie, Jemmye & Veronica, idk the rest except Aneesa who is on another tier of her own.
When Queen has the most posts in her thread by almost 300 posts......but she irrelevant, right?
Only because of a handful of fans and those of us that hate those fans.
KVM and others too I suppose have more of an issue against users who are fans of Marie , not Marie herself because of how hard we root for her. It's no different than every other season when a fan favorite gets slack from others. Invasion wasn't her best as she was sent home first and we know that. In my eyes, she's had stand out moments and has entertained me in the past enough for me to want to continue to see her appear on the shows. I'll root for her however I like, I know not everyone likes everyone. I just don't understand why it's being analyzed so seriously that she hasn't made a final or won yet. Since when are we scouting challengers and when they make or don't make a final on here? She's on her 3rd show and it's still airing. I've been a fan of so many challengers who haven't come close to a final and they've done so many more shows. I truly believe Marie does have the potential to possibly / probably make it to a final based on what we've seen her do on previous challenges. She had a 5 year break in between challenges also, it's not like shes been consecutively doing challenges. I have high hopes but wouldn't hold her or anyone for that matter to anything like people are doing here. It's just seeming like more of a vendetta against users here for some people who don't like the praise shes received. It is what is...agree to disagree I suppose.
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