The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Marie has never come at any of these girls  for them trying to create a brand or making a "business" even if she doesnt like them. I really respect that ❤

It wouldn't matter people don't even remember her being in a room much less what she says... well except you gamer Wink

lol at thinking anyone today is as well know as Coral and Veronica were in their day. Social media determines relevance. Hahaha

If social media were then what it is now, they would have been crossover "celebs" People who didn't know about Challenge would have still known who they were from memes and the like

PinkRose wrote:

Marie has never come at any of these girls  for them trying to create a brand or making a "business" even if she doesnt like them. I really respect that ❤

It wouldn't matter people don't even remember her being in a room much less what she says... well except you gamer Wink

You do too though.  Legend Roda showed up on Seasons without her season even airing and still ran shit. She had an entire house shook with her words, they remember & so does CM... Sorry she called Cara out after Cara came for her :/ 

MontanaGaveMeWine wrote:

There was a time Veronica was a household name, not a big one, but she was known. The challenge got WAY better ratings back in the day. I was at a house party recently and we were talking about embarassing/guilty pleasure shows and mine was the challenge. After most people got over their surpise that it was indeed still on the air, I told them Veronica was coming back and the whole group knew exactly who I was talking about. Late Gen-Xers and early Millenials have a good chance of knowing her, Mike, Coral, Tonya, CT & Beth. Also, if you notice on the wikipedia page for Dirty Thirty Veronica is the only cast member with her own page. Not even Bananas and Camila have that. That says something. I also remember hearing that some of the pros on CVP had no idea who Bananas & Camila were but knew CT, Darrell & Veronica right away. 

That makes me smile.

me too.   CM Punk said he only liked Wes and Veronica and that he remembered Veronica from back in the day. 

I also mentioned the show to some friends who don't watch still and when I said Veronica was back they knew who she was.  They don't know the Camilas and Nelsons.  

True Tea is on point with a lot of what hes saying. Several of us have heard similar things as well.   

And I don't believe Jenna buys followers. Her amount of video views and page likes shows that she does have a following.   Kenny and Paula were great examples of longevity. I have friends that follow those 2 but don't follow someone like Ashley. It's just someone they've always watched and is now on a different journey.    Jenna Camila Cara Bananas CT all have large fan bases whether we are fans of them all or not. 

So in your idiotic theory always a mess nobody who was on a show that long ago has a lot of followers? V has twitter fingers and it's still not working.  V doesn't have followers because she is mean, a bully and irrelevant to most situations. Sorry to all the v fans but it's true

Except Queen V was cast while Jenna, the one with 250k followers, was waiting at home as an alternate. 

Yup but still made it farther. Just stating facts. And doesn't have tweet hate

Yup but still made it farther. Just stating facts. And doesn't have tweet hate

We werent talking about who got further or not. You said Jenna is such a big priority because of her followers and thats all they look at but she was an alternate this season therefore you are incorrect. You claim to be a facts fan, theres a fact for you.

Never said she was a priority. Said she brings rating because she has so many followers.  Many greats have also been alternates including derrick k last season. Fact

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PinkRose wrote:
Graphik wrote:When has Veronica spoke on Kailah before this? I love how she doesn't care for either one of those******* lmaoooooo (Kailah & Trashmila).

Both still made it farer than her, have relevant storyline this season and can eliminated her with their eye close.

Veronica is a Challenge ICON. That woman has enough moments for a lifetime nor does she likely even care about their attention-seeking "storylines" lmaoooo & she STILL let both of them know the Queen stays Queen. SmileWhen Mother Coral & Tina return to REALLY let these girls know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

On twitter....

The reunion too. Smile

If she even make it there lol

 

No offense but PinkRose I am starting to think youre a new fan of the show posing as a super fan cause you get leaks. You clearly dont know who Veronica is or her legacy. You are speaking about one of the best female manipulators and politickers of the shows History. She was a ***** and had many enemies and still always made it to Finals and always held her own. She was voted out early in BOTSexes 2 and STILL was invited to reuinion. Thats how Iconic she was. 

 

Show respect. 

 

Also she is very right about how the show used to have different characters that brought different things to the plate to make the show so much fun to watch. Now everyone is the same and all that matters is the physical. It was more than physical in the past and its a shame the show has become so one dimensional cause of people with mindsets like you. 

MontanaGaveMeWine wrote:

There was a time Veronica was a household name, not a big one, but she was known. The challenge got WAY better ratings back in the day. I was at a house party recently and we were talking about embarassing/guilty pleasure shows and mine was the challenge. After most people got over their surpise that it was indeed still on the air, I told them Veronica was coming back and the whole group knew exactly who I was talking about. Late Gen-Xers and early Millenials have a good chance of knowing her, Mike, Coral, Tonya, CT & Beth. Also, if you notice on the wikipedia page for Dirty Thirty Veronica is the only cast member with her own page. Not even Bananas and Camila have that. That says something. I also remember hearing that some of the pros on CVP had no idea who Bananas & Camila were but knew CT, Darrell & Veronica right away. 

That makes me smile.

kvm1977 wrote:

lol at thinking anyone today is as well know as Coral and Veronica were in their day. Social media determines relevance. Hahaha

If social media were then what it is now, they would have been crossover "celebs" People who didn't know about Challenge would have still known who they were from mems and the like

Wow how about everybody show respect. Especially to those who have given actual spoilers not just opinions

Never said she was a priority. Said she brings rating because she has so many followers.  Many greats have also been alternates including derrick k last season. Fact

So why was she an alternate ? 

TrueTea wrote:

Never said she was a priority. Said she brings rating because she has so many followers.  Many greats have also been alternates including derrick k last season. Fact

So why was she an alternate ? 

Because she didnt fit this season theme , she was told that from the start. 

Thanks Pink! Yes she wasn't dirty enough for the theme. Which is also why she was told she needs to do something and make moves in order to be used.

Jenna wasnt even an alternate to my understanding she was told early on that she wasnt going to be used becuase she didnt fit the theme.

Then on departure day they actually decide to go with her over actual alternates like Brianna laciesta. In my opinion that says a lot.

Never said she was a priority. Said she brings rating because she has so many followers.  Many greats have also been alternates including derrick k last season. Fact

Followers aren't everything, look at Kim from bad blood. 

TrueTea imma need you to start quoting because i'm having trouble following which posts you're replying to lol

Also if you think a lot of followers raises ratings you clearly haven't seen amazing race. They had a whole season of Internet personalities with staggering amount of followers and did terrible.

Because she didnt fit this season theme , she was told that from the start. 

Does it matter whether someone fits the theme ? Most of them arent even that dirty of players. And since they eventually put her on, it shows they dont actually care about the dirty part. 

PinkRose wrote:

Because she didnt fit this season theme , she was told that from the start. 

Does it matter whether someone fits the theme ? Most of them arent even that dirty of players. And since they eventually put her on, it shows they dont actually care about the dirty part. 

I am just writing what they told her, maybe they just wanted her to take a season like they did with leroy on invasion

Also if you think a lot of followers raises ratings you clearly haven't seen amazing race. They had a whole season of Internet personalities with staggering amount of followers and did terrible.

This isn't fair.  The move to Friday Night was the reason for the awful ratings.   Plus  Amazing Race (and CBS) also skew older.  The creative decisions with the dating season and internet celebrities season really made no sense for the show and network. 

TrueTea imma need you to start quoting because i'm having trouble following which posts you're replying to lol

sorry don't usually quote cuz it's so much to read. 

V was a queen of her time for sure. Not taking anything away from her. Just saying the demographic of viewers changes as the cast does. The hAve new viewers who watched ayto n all the other spinoffs. People with more followers will tend to watch more so then people with not a lot. The younger viewers have no idea who any of the OGs are or what they have done in the past. Not everyone is as diehard like us who remember every little thing from every show for 30 seasons. 

QUEENEESA's AWARD OMG IM DECEASED 

Me when Tori takes over The Challenge IG story lol 

Aneesa forgot to mention years of stripping!!!!  Saw her live and she definitely can move!

People going off on the comment about Nicole lips:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWh60fZFywk/

Anyways, I feel like Derrick K coming back over shadowed Veronica's return. If you look at social media ppl are more excited about him than her especially those that follow the official challenge of page

People going off on the comment about Nicole lips:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWh60fZFywk/Anyways, I feel like Derrick K coming back over shadowed Veronica's return. If you look at social media ppl are more excited about him than her especially those that follow the official challenge of page

well he's a better competitor and she was just on champs vs pros so in casuals minds she already returned 

People going off on the comment about Nicole lips:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWh60fZFywk/Anyways, I feel like Derrick K coming back over shadowed Veronica's return. If you look at social media ppl are more excited about him than her especially those that follow the official challenge of page

Tbh Nicole does look like drag queen.

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