Yes. They still are. RW getting canned won't change that(and It hasn't been officially canceled honestly) just like it didn't change when Road Rules got canceled. A show doesn't stop being connected to another show just because it gets canceled. Is Law and Order: SVU NOT a spin off of The Original Law and Order because the original one got canceled?
Maybe a long time ago. Not anymore. The 1st season didnt even have any RRers so i guess they are all non cast members too.
Yes. They still are. RW getting canned won't change that(and It hasn't been officially canceled honestly) just like it didn't change when Road Rules got canceled. A show doesn't stop being connected to another show just because it gets canceled. Is Law and Order: SVU NOT a spin off of The Original Law and Order because the original one got canceled?
Maybe a long time ago. Not anymore. The 1st season didnt even have any RRers so i guess they are all non cast members too.
But it was still called ROAD RULES All-Stars though. So it was clear that they were gonna be in the picture at some point. Plus Production got the Idea of the challenge but seeing a REAL WORLD and ROAD RULES casts face off. So They were always in the plans. Can't say that about any other group of people that got on.
But it was still called ROAD RULES All-Stars though. So it was clear that they were gonna be in the picture at some point. Plus Production got the Idea of the challenge but seeing a REAL WORLD and ROAD RULES casts face off. So They were always in the plans. Can't say that about any other group of people that got on.
It was called that because that was the format of the game. Unless MTV had ordered 2 seasons at the start, i dont think they were any plans of anything. The game went from a road rules format to RW vs RR. Which furthers my point that they never had a fixed purpose. Its always changed. It went from Road rules with only RW cast members, to RW+RR to now open to pretty much whoever they want.
Next you'll say that challenge contestants deserved to be on champs vs pros more than pros because that a spin off of The Challenge.....
But it was still called ROAD RULES All-Stars though. So it was clear that they were gonna be in the picture at some point. Plus Production got the Idea of the challenge but seeing a REAL WORLD and ROAD RULES casts face off. So They were always in the plans. Can't say that about any other group of people that got on.
It was called that because that was the format of the game. Unless MTV had ordered 2 seasons at the start, i dont think they were any plans of anything. The game went from a road rules format to RW vs RR. Which furthers my point that they never had a fixed purpose. Its always changed. It went from Road rules with only RW cast members, to RW+RR to now open to pretty much whoever they want. Next you'll say that challenge contestants deserved to be on champs vs pros more than pros because that a spin off of The Challenge.....
I just told you that the reason MTV started doing the challenges because they saw that REAL WORLD and ROAD RULES casts facing off got good ratings. This was stated BY PRODUCTION THEMSELVES. So how can you sit here and say that there wasn't a set plan? It was clear from the start that they were gonna be apart of the show. So that's not a change. Period.
The show changed yes. But just because you add a bunch of people that have nothing to do with the franchise as a whole doesn't mean The Challenge still isn't connected to the RW. Period.
And for the record why the **** would I say the champs didn't deserve to be on Champs vs Pros? The point of the show was CHALLENGE CHAMPS versus PROFESSIONA ATHLETES.
And the point of The Challenge is contestants facing off against each other. Its not about RW or RR anymore.
And it was never RW VERSUS RR at the start. It was RW in a RR format. So how did they see that it got ratings before it happened ? It was changed the same way the fresh meat change happened.
You would say that because the professional atheletes arent from the RW. And Champs vs Pros is a spin off of the challenge which is a spin off of the Real World. "They're connected".
At the end of The Day The Real World and The Challenge are connected. Always have been and always will be. No matter what changes it goes through. That's the point.
At the end of The Day The Real World and The Challenge are connected. Always have been and always will be. No matter what changes it goes through. That's the point.
At the end of the Day, they are no longer connected. Your point = invalid.
And the point of The Challenge is contestants facing off against each other. Its not about RW or RR anymore. And it was never RW VERSUS RR at the start. It was RW in a RR format. So how did they see that it got ratings before it happened ? It was changed the same way the fresh meat change happened. You would say that because the professional atheletes arent from the RW. And Champs vs Pros is a spin off of the challenge which is a spin off of the Real World. "They're connected".
When Road Rules was still aring they would have that cast of Roadies go up against Whatever Season of Real World that was happening at the time. The first face off was on Season 4 of Road Rules which was Islands and they went up agains the Boston cast. They continued to do that and every time it did well in ratings. THAT'S how they knew it would work and that's what had them start doing the challenge.
And Yes Champs vs Pros is connected to the challege and RW but only because of the champs. Not The Pros.
At the end of The Day The Real World and The Challenge are connected. Always have been and always will be. No matter what changes it goes through. That's the point.
At the end of the Day, they are no longer connected. Your point = invalid.
At the end of day they still are so your point=Dumb and Invaild.
When Road Rules was still aring they would have that cast of Roadies go up against Whatever Season of Real World that was happening at the time. The first face off was on Season 4 of Road Rules which was Islands and they went up agains the Boston cast. They continued to do that and every time it did well in ratings. THAT'S how they knew it would work and that's what had them start doing the challenge. And Yes Champs vs Pros is connected to the challege and RW but only because of the champs. Not The Pros.
Except the format is nothing like the road rules format now. If that was always the plan why not have them in the very first season ?
When Road Rules was still aring they would have that cast of Roadies go up against Whatever Season of Real World that was happening at the time. The first face off was on Season 4 of Road Rules which was Islands and they went up agains the Boston cast. They continued to do that and every time it did well in ratings. THAT'S how they knew it would work and that's what had them start doing the challenge. And Yes Champs vs Pros is connected to the challege and RW but only because of the champs. Not The Pros.
Except the format is nothing like the road rules format now. If that was always the plan why not have them in the very first season ?
It doesn't matter what the format is now though. A Spin off doesn't suddenly stop being a spin off of another show just because something changes. What part of that don't you get?
It doesn't matter what the format is now though. A Spin off doesn't suddenly stop being a spin off of another show just because something changes. What part of that don't you get?
It is still a spin off. I never said it wasnt. I said it is no longer connected to RW or RR. Back then you would only see cast members from those 2 shows. Now you see pretty much anyone. The producers can literally put anyone they like now because its 'The Challenge' not the Real World/Road Rules challenge. Im going to assume you dont 'get' any of that since you clearly lack the brain power to understand.
It doesn't matter what the format is now though. A Spin off doesn't suddenly stop being a spin off of another show just because something changes. What part of that don't you get?
It is still a spin off. I never said it wasnt. I said it is no longer connected to RW or RR. Back then you would only see cast members from those 2 shows. Now you see pretty much anyone. The producers can literally put anyone they like now because its 'The Challenge' not the Real World/Road Rules challenge. Im going to assume you dont 'get' any of that since you clearly lack the brain power to understand.
I'm gonna explain this to you once again since YOU'RE the one lacking the brain power to undersand what's being said to you.
The Challenge doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to The Real World and Road Rules just because now they bring any ******* for any show on it and the name has changed. It will forever be a spin off of The Real World and Road Rules no matter what changes it goes through. That is what I mean when I say they are connected. A spin off of another show doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to it's parent show just becase some things about said show changes. That logic makes no sense and frankly it's dumb.
I'm gonna explain this to you once again since YOU'RE the one lacking the brain power to undersand what's being said to you.The Challenge doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to The Real World and Road Rules just because now they bring any ******* for any show on it and the name has changed. It will forever be a spin off of The Real World and Road Rules no matter what changes it goes through. That is what I mean when I say they are connected. A spin off of another show doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to it's parent show just becase some things about said show changes. That logic makes no sense and frankly it's dumb.
Since when is being connected and being a spin off the same thing ? At this point its barely a spin off.
RW-ers dont deserve to be on the challenge just because they are from the real world. The producers clearly agree ...
I'm gonna explain this to you once again since YOU'RE the one lacking the brain power to undersand what's being said to you.The Challenge doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to The Real World and Road Rules just because now they bring any ******* for any show on it and the name has changed. It will forever be a spin off of The Real World and Road Rules no matter what changes it goes through. That is what I mean when I say they are connected. A spin off of another show doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to it's parent show just becase some things about said show changes. That logic makes no sense and frankly it's dumb.
Since when is being connected and being a spin off the same thing ? At this point its barely a spin off. RW-ers dont deserve to be on the challenge just because they are from the real world. The producers clearly agree ...
Since Always? Like at what point does a Spin off suddenly stop being a spin-off? How the **** does that work?
Debut Album wrote:I'm gonna explain this to you once again since YOU'RE the one lacking the brain power to undersand what's being said to you.The Challenge doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to The Real World and Road Rules just because now they bring any ******* for any show on it and the name has changed. It will forever be a spin off of The Real World and Road Rules no matter what changes it goes through. That is what I mean when I say they are connected. A spin off of another show doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to it's parent show just becase some things about said show changes. That logic makes no sense and frankly it's dumb.
Since when is being connected and being a spin off the same thing ? At this point its barely a spin off. RW-ers dont deserve to be on the challenge just because they are from the real world. The producers clearly agree ...
Since Always? Like at what point does a Spin off suddenly stop being a spin-off? How the **** does that work?
Its stop being a spin off when the show completely changes. The only thing that keeps The challenge the same is the fact that instead of starting a new series, it was a gradual change. There is no similarity between the first season of the challenge and this last season. There are no shows that i can think of that are like this.
Debut Album wrote:I'm gonna explain this to you once again since YOU'RE the one lacking the brain power to undersand what's being said to you.The Challenge doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to The Real World and Road Rules just because now they bring any ******* for any show on it and the name has changed. It will forever be a spin off of The Real World and Road Rules no matter what changes it goes through. That is what I mean when I say they are connected. A spin off of another show doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to it's parent show just becase some things about said show changes. That logic makes no sense and frankly it's dumb.
Since when is being connected and being a spin off the same thing ? At this point its barely a spin off. RW-ers dont deserve to be on the challenge just because they are from the real world. The producers clearly agree ...
Since Always? Like at what point does a Spin off suddenly stop being a spin-off? How the **** does that work?
Its stop being a spin off when the show completely changes. The only thing that keeps The challenge the same is the fact that instead of starting a new series, it was a gradual change. Theyre is no similarity between the first season of the challenge and this last season. There are no shows that i can think of that are like this.
That's not how it works. That's NEVER been how it works. A Spin off show doesn't suddenly loses the fact that it's a spin off simply because of a few bells and whistles changed. It's still a ******* spin-off regardless.
That's not how it works. That's NEVER been how it works. A Spin off show doesn't suddenly loses the fact that it's a spin off simply because of a few bells and whistles changed.
Where is this written ?
And this show has changed a lot more a "few bells and whistles changed"
That's not how it works. That's NEVER been how it works. A Spin off show doesn't suddenly loses the fact that it's a spin off simply because of a few bells and whistles changed.
Where is this written ?And this show has changed a lot more a "few bells and whistles changed"
What???? No Paris? NO Orlana? No Kayla (AYTO? Messy *****)?
Maybe a long time ago. Not anymore. The 1st season didnt even have any RRers so i guess they are all non cast members too.
But it was still called ROAD RULES All-Stars though. So it was clear that they were gonna be in the picture at some point. Plus Production got the Idea of the challenge but seeing a REAL WORLD and ROAD RULES casts face off. So They were always in the plans. Can't say that about any other group of people that got on.
It was called that because that was the format of the game. Unless MTV had ordered 2 seasons at the start, i dont think they were any plans of anything. The game went from a road rules format to RW vs RR. Which furthers my point that they never had a fixed purpose. Its always changed. It went from Road rules with only RW cast members, to RW+RR to now open to pretty much whoever they want.
Next you'll say that challenge contestants deserved to be on champs vs pros more than pros because that a spin off of The Challenge.....
I just told you that the reason MTV started doing the challenges because they saw that REAL WORLD and ROAD RULES casts facing off got good ratings. This was stated BY PRODUCTION THEMSELVES. So how can you sit here and say that there wasn't a set plan? It was clear from the start that they were gonna be apart of the show. So that's not a change. Period.
The show changed yes. But just because you add a bunch of people that have nothing to do with the franchise as a whole doesn't mean The Challenge still isn't connected to the RW. Period.
And for the record why the **** would I say the champs didn't deserve to be on Champs vs Pros? The point of the show was CHALLENGE CHAMPS versus PROFESSIONA ATHLETES.
And the point of The Challenge is contestants facing off against each other. Its not about RW or RR anymore.
And it was never RW VERSUS RR at the start. It was RW in a RR format. So how did they see that it got ratings before it happened ? It was changed the same way the fresh meat change happened.
You would say that because the professional atheletes arent from the RW. And Champs vs Pros is a spin off of the challenge which is a spin off of the Real World. "They're connected".
At the end of The Day The Real World and The Challenge are connected. Always have been and always will be. No matter what changes it goes through. That's the point.
At the end of the Day, they are no longer connected. Your point = invalid.
When Road Rules was still aring they would have that cast of Roadies go up against Whatever Season of Real World that was happening at the time. The first face off was on Season 4 of Road Rules which was Islands and they went up agains the Boston cast. They continued to do that and every time it did well in ratings. THAT'S how they knew it would work and that's what had them start doing the challenge.
And Yes Champs vs Pros is connected to the challege and RW but only because of the champs. Not The Pros.
At the end of day they still are so your point=Dumb and Invaild.
Except the format is nothing like the road rules format now. If that was always the plan why not have them in the very first season ?
No.
Doubt it. Svetlana would've rocked that *****.
Gonna make a fantasy G3 cast in a bit. That season could've been done so well but was cast horrible.
It doesn't matter what the format is now though. A Spin off doesn't suddenly stop being a spin off of another show just because something changes. What part of that don't you get?
Yes.
It is still a spin off. I never said it wasnt. I said it is no longer connected to RW or RR. Back then you would only see cast members from those 2 shows. Now you see pretty much anyone. The producers can literally put anyone they like now because its 'The Challenge' not the Real World/Road Rules challenge. Im going to assume you dont 'get' any of that since you clearly lack the brain power to understand.
Agreed.
Drunk Melanie definitely needs to come on & throw a table at Trashmila >>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm gonna explain this to you once again since YOU'RE the one lacking the brain power to undersand what's being said to you.
The Challenge doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to The Real World and Road Rules just because now they bring any ******* for any show on it and the name has changed. It will forever be a spin off of The Real World and Road Rules no matter what changes it goes through. That is what I mean when I say they are connected. A spin off of another show doesn't suddenly cease to be connected to it's parent show just becase some things about said show changes. That logic makes no sense and frankly it's dumb.
Since when is being connected and being a spin off the same thing ? At this point its barely a spin off.
RW-ers dont deserve to be on the challenge just because they are from the real world. The producers clearly agree ...
Final calls for one of the challenges they are doing are going out.
Since Always? Like at what point does a Spin off suddenly stop being a spin-off? How the **** does that work?
Really? Wow.
If it's for 31 well...We'll see how they wanna go forth with this show.
Its stop being a spin off when the show completely changes. The only thing that keeps The challenge the same is the fact that instead of starting a new series, it was a gradual change. There is no similarity between the first season of the challenge and this last season. There are no shows that i can think of that are like this.
I think it's for the champs vs pros or the variation of it lol
That's not how it works. That's NEVER been how it works. A Spin off show doesn't suddenly loses the fact that it's a spin off simply because of a few bells and whistles changed. It's still a ******* spin-off regardless.
Eh. Figures. Seemed like it didn't take that long honestly.
Where is this written ?
And this show has changed a lot more a "few bells and whistles changed"
My point still stands regardless.
really hoping we don't get repeat champions...people id like to see
Emily/Jill/Cara Z/Tori/Coral for the girls and Abram/Landon/Derrick/Frank S/Frank R for the guys
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