The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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wtf is a jury ? that make's no sense.... people work hard to make it to the finals and complete the finals, just to let others decide if they win or not? tthat's so dumb.they always do these messed up shit when bananas is not involved.i just want jordan to win again and I had a feeling he did, but now theres no winner? like wtf T_T

theres no jury, idk why they keep bringing that up, no one from the spoiler team even hinted at that lmao. They literally just said "there are no winners yet" but don't lose hope. The winner will probably be announced at the reunion 

27502 wrote:

kooki wrote:

wutzrenzi wrote:
kooki wrote:camila always gets screwed by partners in the final I mean wes always gasses out in finals and now he is in even worse shape ughhh. also I 'm over season 30 winners and I like everyone in the final so I know I won't upset no matter who won , I'm just ready for season31 casting calls

 in what way did Wes hold Camila back? Stop making excuses. 

he didn't exactly hold her back but he's no darrell or CT he is the weakest male between those 3 to run a final with

You could just as easily say Camilla held Wes back because she was the weakest female of the 5 remaning girls to run a final with

okay now you're just tripping camila was not the weakest she's actually better than cara endurance wise and she's done a lot better than cara on challenges over the years cara may be more muscle strong but overall I think they're kinda of on the same level . plus wes is the only guy out of shape while all the girls are in shape so it basically came down to the boys they were paired up with 

nah.. Cara is better than camila on endurance. Cara finished a half hour before everyone on that final. They literally said that her special champ trait is her stamina. But camila is no joke. That girl has seriously became a huge threat overall 

who said they ran a final?

who said they ran a final?

PR said a week ago that the final was tough and some people had trouble with it... 

 

kooki wrote:

27502 wrote:

kooki wrote:
wutzrenzi wrote:
kooki wrote:camila always gets screwed by partners in the final I mean wes always gasses out in finals and now he is in even worse shape ughhh. also I 'm over season 30 winners and I like everyone in the final so I know I won't upset no matter who won , I'm just ready for season31 casting calls

 in what way did Wes hold Camila back? Stop making excuses. 

he didn't exactly hold her back but he's no darrell or CT he is the weakest male between those 3 to run a final with

You could just as easily say Camilla held Wes back because she was the weakest female of the 5 remaning girls to run a final with

okay now you're just tripping camila was not the weakest she's actually better than cara endurance wise and she's done a lot better than cara on challenges over the years cara may be more muscle strong but overall I think they're kinda of on the same level . plus wes is the only guy out of shape while all the girls are in shape so it basically came down to the boys they were paired up with 

nah.. Cara is better than camila on endurance. Cara finished a half hour before everyone on that final. They literally said that her special champ trait is her stamina. But camila is no joke. That girl has seriously became a huge threat overall 

that was a short final compared to the ones they have on challenges and darrell actually carried cara at one point and darrell carried the bag by himself while camila had to help wes carry it  but like I said I feel that cara and camila are somewhat on the same level that's why we're all wondering who one season 30 . also being paired with wes doesn't even come close to being paired with darrell 

ugh here goes kooki again..

tfunny wrote:

wtf is a jury ? that make's no sense.... people work hard to make it to the finals and complete the finals, just to let others decide if they win or not? tthat's so dumb.they always do these messed up shit when bananas is not involved.i just want jordan to win again and I had a feeling he did, but now theres no winner? like wtf T_T

theres no jury, idk why they keep bringing that up, no one from the spoiler team even hinted at that lmao. They literally just said "there are no winners yet" but don't lose hope. The winner will probably be announced at the reunion 

In all honesty, announcing at the reunion isn't the worst idea. I'd rather have it be that than any sort of Jury or Voting. It holds suspense on who is going to win. Maybe it's a way to get people to watch the show since they won't know the ending until the reunion happens and then at that point they hope they will be hooked. I mean I still watch every season even when I know the spoilers, but I'm sure some people only watch some episodes and not all of them since they know what is going to happen. Maybe they are hoping that this will improve ratings becaus even people won't know the ending for a longer period of time.

or we are all guessing and don't really know, but either way I'm excited to watch this season. I wish kailah was in the final, but I'm holding out for her coming back in future seasons and hopefully pulling through. I'm also excited to see Tori. I don't follow AYTO closely (I've seen episodes here and there, but don't follow along like other shows), but I might sit down and watch just so I can see what she is like before the show.

It wouldn't be bad if they revealed it at the reunion since the season is about to premiere, so the cast wouldn't have to wait long. But if it was like Free Agents, which started to film September 2013 I think and didn't air until April of next year, then I wouldn't agree with it. 

wutzrenzi wrote:

kooki wrote:camila always gets screwed by partners in the final I mean wes always gasses out in finals and now he is in even worse shape ughhh. also I 'm over season 30 winners and I like everyone in the final so I know I won't upset no matter who won , I'm just ready for season31 casting calls

 in what way did Wes hold Camila back? Stop making excuses. 

he didn't exactly hold her back but he's no darrell or CT he is the weakest male between those 3 to run a final with

she lost fair and square. you're really oening a can of worms here and you and the other camila fans are just going to cry pages later about her being talked about or dragged.

Honestly if this twist somehow got Tori the win, I'd be okay with that. She's got a lot of potential to be a really good competitor

It wouldn't be bad if they revealed it at the reunion since the season is about to premiere, so the cast wouldn't have to wait long. But if it was like Free Agents, which started to film September 2013 I think and didn't air until April of next year, then I wouldn't agree with it. 

i think free agents was filmed in mid to late October because I remember the Halloween party they had majority of the cast members there

The cliffhangers are so aggravating...long gone are the days when we get a complete episode. And not announcing the winners feels like another extension of this horrible cliffhanger bullshit they seem to be addicted to....and they spoil it 50% of the time anyway so no matter what the twist is, not announcing the winners is incredibly stupid

Maybe the "jury" is at the reunion and is just able to add time to certain peoples finals time. Either way I hate the idea of a jury so I hope thats not it. If you backstabbed and politicked your way to the end and killed a final you deserve the win. 

If there is a jury it could totally backfire on production.  Say there is a jury this season.  Now you have made the cast paranoid about there being a jury on future seasons, and a lot of them will be on their best behavior with other cast members.  They would basically be risking all the drama/fights that this show thrives on for a one-time payout.

Not to mention that a lot of people will vote out of spite against the people who eliminated them

Not to mention that a lot of people will vote out of spite against the people who eliminated them

Bitter juries are a thing. Ask Survivor. But Survivor has also had numerous incredibly deserving winners. Winners that screwed over the jury members.

AbominaSean wrote:

Not to mention that a lot of people will vote out of spite against the people who eliminated them

Bitter juries are a thing. Ask Survivor. But Survivor has also had numerous incredibly deserving winners. Winners that screwed over the jury members.

I guess it's a crapshoot. I'd rather them just compete and leave it at that. But I think the good thing is that, at least on the males side, all three are pretty well liked and generally good people (despite CT's past and Jordan's occasional narcissism). The females side is INSANE though...Cam/Car have series enemies and Tori is a newb

AbominaSean wrote:

Not to mention that a lot of people will vote out of spite against the people who eliminated them

Bitter juries are a thing. Ask Survivor. But Survivor has also had numerous incredibly deserving winners. Winners that screwed over the jury members.

I think the play dynamic in survivor allows players to get over being screwed over in the game because it's a one time game that they are playing and a lot of people don't take being blindsided personally. Some of these Challenge people have feuds lasting years and actually hold personal grudges against each other. That's the only reason I think a jury of peers in the Challenge could ruin the game because I think they are more apt to vote based out of spite. I also think that the people at the end have earned there spots there on the Challenge so it's a lot harder to base it on who is deserving, but in Survivor there is usually 1 or 2 people who coat-tail their way to the end and the jury is usually smart on voting for the person who earned it instead of the people who rode the coat tails. Idk I don't think there's a jury at all, but it's my opinion that no one asked for.

Is this jury thing confirmed? Maybe they simply want suspense since it's season 30 and all.

Is this jury thing confirmed? Maybe they simply want suspense since it's season 30 and all.

Not confirmed. All PR said was that the finalists themselves don't know who won yet. They could just be saving to announce it at the reunion.

Jesus though, production really doing the absolute most this season. Like chill.

I do hope it's not a jury. This ain't Survivor/Big Brother. I'd rather have people get by on how well they did in the final and not win by other people's feelings.

 

I feel like production is being petty bc they dont know how to deal with thhe spoilers team lmao. 

I feel like production is being petty bc they dont know how to deal with thhe spoilers team lmao. 

They need to stop with that though because there's really nothing they can do about spoilers. Shit's gonna get out one way or another.

Told y'all lmaooo. Enough with this jury mess. They would never let's the fans vote for a FINAL a FINAL guys. Jesus 

The winners being announced at the reunion will be lit because that means the reunion will most likely be live

No jury because if cast or fans vote that means CT, Cara/Camila will win without having to compete in the final.

The winners being announced at the reunion will be lit because that means the reunion will most likely be live

I hope it's not live.  Rivals 2 reunion was an absolute MESS. 

What if the twist is that daily missions and eliminations are accounted for on some kiel point system. I wouldn't hate that. It would make the actual season part count. 

I feel like production is being petty bc they dont know how to deal with thhe spoilers team lmao. 

Spoilers get out for any tv show really. They could cast a completely new cast for season 31 and we would still get the information we get. The twists don't prevent spoilers from getting out, it just makes things more confusing and may delay info a bit.

What if the twist is that daily missions and eliminations are accounted for on some kiel point system. I wouldn't hate that. It would make the actual season part count. 

Hopefully being sent to redemption results in a massive point drop. ❤️

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