The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoilers discussion)

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Jfreeze wrote:

Is lisa the person who started casting these ayto clowns?If so she's done a horrible job.

ayto saved the show

And you say I have trash opinions...

Debut Album wrote:

Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

Exactly. And CT was barley there too so...

So like I said..She hasn't done much.

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

Lord I always forget CT was on Exes 2. But yeah Exes 2 proved they don't always need those 4 for a season to be good. Exes 2 was  one of the best in recent seasons. 

Debut Album wrote:

Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

They need to retire the old washed up vets (bananas, camila, cara) and get the potential new faces of challenge (marlon, frank sweeney, nia, averey, jamie larson, jordan, etc) as regulars... and ditch the useless ayto people.

challenge regulars like jordan, marlon, frank sweeney, jamie larson, averey   >>>>>>  jenna, cory, dario, or whatever regulars they have now. 

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

So bananas wasn't on exes2?

Are there always so many brand new accounts on Vevmo during each season's filming....? 

HonestTea101 wrote:

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

Exactly. And CT was barley there too so...So like I said..She hasn't done much.

She's brought back old schoolers. Dont get those people confused with tiresome regulars such as Bananas, Cara, and Camila.

I feel like MTV's ratings aren't that great because of the demographic they are targeting. A lot of millennials (if that is who they are targeting.. I'm just guessing) work late. That 9-5 job isn't always available. Personally I watch The Challenge and a lot of other MTV shows online the day after since I work while it's on. Plus, cable is getting so expensive I mainly using streaming services now.Side note, I hope if they have after shows or show the exile eliminations online, they make it available for Canadians. I always seem to miss out on the drama there Sad

 

 

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

wasnt bananas on exes 2? & him and nany got a lot of air time

HonestTea101 wrote:

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

So bananas wasn't on exes2?

Barely. He got the boot early and let others play the game.

HonestTea101 wrote:

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

So bananas wasn't on exes2?

He was but he exited early 

Yes Exes 2 was very good but you also had Goddess Theresa, Hurricane Nia, Decent Sarah and slightly-humble-Jordan among others. If she could get a cast like that im sure she would sit a few of them out. The brand new rooks just cant by themselves.

Ratings across all of tv are down and have been steadily for years.  The challenge will be around for a long time because it is one of the very few things that draws on MTV.

I say ditch this regular shit altogether and cast different as possible each season. They can still have returning people but just don't cast them on 10 seasons straight. Give people a chance to see that the show can be good without XYZ.

Basically take Aneesa's method of doing challenges and apply it to eveyone.

HonestTea101 wrote:

tfunny wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

They need to retire the old washed up vets (bananas, camila, cara) and get the potential new faces of challenge (marlon, frank sweeney, nia, averey, jamie larson, jordan, etc) as regulars... and ditch the useless ayto people.challenge regulars like jordan, marlon, frank sweeney, jamie larson, averey   >>>>>>  jenna, cory, dario, or whatever regulars they have now. 

agree

Ratings across all of tv are down and have been steadily for years.  The challenge will be around for a long time because it is one of the very few things that draws on MTV.

truth. people have access to streaming shit online so nobody pays for cable anymore... my subscription was cancelled too... i only stream it online now.

Debut Album wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:

tfunny wrote:
Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

Exactly. And CT was barley there too so...So like I said..She hasn't done much.

She's brought back old schoolers. Dont get those people confused with tiresome regulars such as Bananas, Cara, and Camila.

I already addressed that...

Jfreeze wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:

tfunny wrote:
Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

So bananas wasn't on exes2?

Barely. He got the boot early and let others play the game.

We also saw the ratings tank the week after he and Nany got eliminated.Look at the exes2 ratings before you talk this nonsense.

Are there always so many brand new accounts on Vevmo during each season's filming....? 

Sadly yes lol Some come here claiming that they have a family member on production claiming they know spoilers (99% of the times are false spoilers) or just troll accounts 

i agree that they should casts new people instead of the same vets they do every season, but weren't the invasion ratings not that good until the champs came? & even though a lot of us don't like bananas, cara & camila.. they are loved by a lot of casuals and that's probably why they like casting them. i would want to see a season without them just to see how it would do, but i highly doubt their gonna do that anytime soon.

Ratings across all of tv are down and have been steadily for years.  The challenge will be around for a long time because it is one of the very few things that draws on MTV.

TV ratings are down across the board everywhere. Cable TV is just having a slow painful death due to streaming services and such. That being said, The Challenge these days does well for MTV and its about time they recognize it

HonestTea101 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:
tfunny wrote:
Debut Album wrote:Lisa hasn't done much honestly. All she's done is cast old-schoolers. We still have to put up with the overused vets who refused to leave the show.

can't blame her though. those vets are the ones bringing in the ratings and the viewers. they have to include them in the franchise.. what lisa is doing is combining old vets with new people who has potential to replace the vets (once the viewers get used to seeing them as well)it's called phasing out ****

Let me send Lisa a copy of Exes2 and show her ratings can be good without BAnanas, CAra, and Camila

Exactly. And CT was barley there too so...So like I said..She hasn't done much.

She's brought back old schoolers. Dont get those people confused with tiresome regulars such as Bananas, Cara, and Camila.

I already addressed that...

And I wasnt addressing you... I was talking to Tfunny ****.

Y'all just got to accept that the show has to cater to the casuals over the superfans. Its about making money. Everytime the viewers drop they lose a lot of money. Theyre not going to take huge risks for the sake of a few hundred fans.

My bish ************ might actually win this shit

i agree that they should casts new people instead of the same vets they do every season, but weren't the invasion ratings not that good until the champs came? & even though a lot of us don't like bananas, cara & camila.. they are loved by a lot of casuals and that's probably why they like casting them. i would want to see a season without them just to see how it would do, but i highly doubt their gonna do that anytime soon.

The ratings were still decent though. They weren't tragic like Cancelled with Two Dollars and the last season of RW.

Sadly yes lol Some come here claiming that they have a family member on production claiming they know spoilers (99% of the times are false spoilers) or just troll accounts 

*cough* Snotboiswag *cough*

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