The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoilers discussion)

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So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

I thiink many people have stated why they're anti-Jenna many of times and her fans/her doing nothing on these shows are the main ones.

This convo is getting tiring though.

audreyhorne wrote:

So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

I don't think anyone hates her.People "hate" Camila. We just like a little variation with our doormats. Pink, blue, some patterns maybe. But here comes Jenna all like...

Jenna's not a bad person. Noone said she was. However, the girl is just dull and lifeless and just takes up the space that could be given to someone who could do so much more. Not to mention she's a doormat and just really has no backbone. She's just...there. And I think that's why people don't like her.

audreyhorne wrote:

So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

shboogies wrote:

Jenna's done like three things that are unlikeable...JayZachCory

Four.Vince

Shut the **** up no. Don't say blasphemy when I'm here. You tried it.

Diamonds are Forever wrote:

shboogies wrote:Jenna's done like three things that are unlikeable...JayZachCory

Four.Vince

See. Disgusting. Unacceptable. 

1. **********

lol.

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

I think Jenna always gets cheated on cause she has no personality

 

audreyhorne wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

She has a passive-aggressive, sneaky side that has showed itself from time to time (case in point: her letting Amanda get villainized for "lying" about Bruno then admitting to it at the reunion).

Someone on Twitter made a go fund me for Cory's grandma vacation trip and for a new acl for Cory 

audreyhorne wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

Here's the thing: I don't think she owed anyone an explanation regarding the Bruno situation. It happened off-camera, before filming started and if she doesn't want to discuss the matter I believe people should have respected that. She didn't have a relationship with Ashley and Amanda and just because they were curious they weren't entitled to that knowledge. If she doesn't want to talk about it, it doesn't mean she's fake, it means that you guys are not friends and she she doesn't have to talk about intimate details with you. She was also single when it happened, so if she didn't want to talk about it, it should have stayed between her and Bruno. If it didn't happen during the show, she has a right to privacy.

I think Jenna always gets cheated on cause she has no personality 

i think she continues to get cheated on because they know she won't leave the relationship. they know they can walk all over her & she won't do anything about it. it's honestly sad the way she allows guys to mistreat her

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

I think this is partly the case; I feel that she has a passive-aggressive, sneaky side that has showed itself from time to time (case in point: her letting Amanda get villainized for "lying" then admitting to it at the reunion).

All she lied about was the making out Amanda's video on Instagram said the fingering rumor came from Nelson but she got the blame. She clearly was okay with spreading it though as seen on tv. 

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

Here's the thing: I don't think she owed anyone an explanation regarding the Bruno situation. It happened off-camera, before filming started and if she doesn't want to discuss the matter I believe people should have respected that. She didn't have a relationship with Ashley and Amanda and just because they were curious they weren't entitled to that knowledge. If she doesn't want to talk about it, it doesn't mean she's fake, it means that you guys are not friends and she she doesn't have to talk about intimate details with you. She was also single when it happened, so if she didn't want to talk about it, it should have stayed between her and Bruno. If it didn't happen during the show, she has a right to privacy.

not a jenna fan, but i agree with this. she didn't have to tell them anything if she didn't want to.

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

She has a passive-aggressive, sneaky side that has showed itself from time to time (case in point: her letting Amanda get villainized for "lying" about Bruno then admitting to it at the reunion).

Thats a VERY good point I didn't even think about the passive aggressiveness. Guess you could also apply that how she let Zach talk to Jonna any kind of way but then would be up under him. 

Ceej3 wrote:

I think Jenna always gets cheated on cause she has no personality 

i think she continues to get cheated on because they know she won't leave the relationship. they know they can walk all over her & she won't do anything about it. it's honestly sad the way she allows guys to mistreat her

You just validated my point. No personality i.e. doormat 

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

Here's the thing: I don't think she owed anyone an explanation regarding the Bruno situation. It happened off-camera, before filming started and if she doesn't want to discuss the matter I believe people should have respected that. She didn't have a relationship with Ashley and Amanda and just because they were curious they weren't entitled to that knowledge. If she doesn't want to talk about it, it doesn't mean she's fake, it means that you guys are not friends and she she doesn't have to talk about intimate details with you. She was also single when it happened, so if she didn't want to talk about it, it should have stayed between her and Bruno. If it didn't happen during the show, she has a right to privacy.

Yes she has a right to keep it to herself. But like Ashley said if she does something she owns up to it. Jenna made a big deal about it crying to Zach talking about it wasn't true (like Graphik said letting Amanda be villified) only for it to be true in the end. Like you said she was SINGLE therefore she shouldn't have cared what anyone else thought anyway. 

Funny how some of you hate castmembers for certain reasons. Yet when it comes to Amanda gets a pass for making up shit and her loud mouth. I would like her if she wasn't such a *****.

challengeopinions wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:I think Jenna always gets cheated on cause she has no personality 

i think she continues to get cheated on because they know she won't leave the relationship. they know they can walk all over her & she won't do anything about it. it's honestly sad the way she allows guys to mistreat her

You just validated my point. No personality i.e. doormat 

yeah, i was agreeing with you lol. she is 100% a doormat & it's sad to watch. i wish she would've snapped at zach for the way he treats & talks to women. 

Funny how some of you hate castmembers for certain reasons. Yet when it comes to Amanda gets a pass for making up shit and her loud mouth. I would like her if she wasn't such a *****.

Ok

The LGBT women on this show have always been really good too

the reason that lesbians tend to be good is the same reason that gay guys tend to NOT be. its not a homophobic comment but simply the truth and this can be observed in a lot of athletes

Ceej3 wrote:

challengeopinions wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:I think Jenna always gets cheated on cause she has no personality 

i think she continues to get cheated on because they know she won't leave the relationship. they know they can walk all over her & she won't do anything about it. it's honestly sad the way she allows guys to mistreat her

You just validated my point. No personality i.e. doormat 

yeah, i was agreeing with you lol. she is 100% a doormat & it's sad to watch. i wish she would've snapped at zach for the way he treats & talks to women. 

Oh ok yeah. Lol she definitely deserve she better than Zach/Jay maybe one day she'll learn. 

Graphik wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

audreyhorne wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

She has a passive-aggressive, sneaky side that has showed itself from time to time (case in point: her letting Amanda get villainized for "lying" about Bruno then admitting to it at the reunion).

Thats a VERY good point I didn't even think about the passive aggressiveness. Guess you could also apply that how she let Zach talk to Jonna any kind of way but then would be up under him. 

Not only that, that was supposed to be her friend or they at least got along. You saw how your "friend" got treated but then you go & hook up with the dude? It's like rubbing it in her face.

I saw someone else brought up how she never defended her "friend" Kailah either when Kailah would always go to bat for her on Invasion/Twitter.

Funny how some of you hate castmembers for certain reasons. Yet when it comes to Amanda gets a pass for making up shit and her loud mouth. I would like her if she wasn't such a *****.

this is kind of true lol. there is a little hypocrisy when it comes to certain cast members. 

Ceej3 wrote:

The LGBT women on this show have always been really good too

the reason that lesbians tend to be good is the same reason that gay guys tend to NOT be. its not a homophobic comment but simply the truth and this can be observed in a lot of athletes

um frank, tyler & shane say hello

Funny how some of you hate castmembers for certain reasons. Yet when it comes to Amanda gets a pass for making up shit and her loud mouth. I would like her if she wasn't such a *****.

Well supposedly Nelson made it up so Amanda is not to blame with that.....

Give me Amanda anyday; somebody who will let you know how they feel, has nothing to hide or be sneaky about and tells the TRUTH.

jenna has 0 passion and stands for nothing. those people are some of the worst because they KNOW something bad is going on yet they continue to let it happen. 

Funny how some of you hate castmembers for certain reasons. Yet when it comes to Amanda gets a pass for making up shit and her loud mouth. I would like her if she wasn't such a *****.

To be fair most of the shit Amanda says ended up being true to an extent. I mean don't get me wrong she exaggerates things but when she spoke about the Jenna/Bruno thing, Jenna said nothing happened at all not even a kiss and turns out something did happen. At one point Camila spoke about how she'd never hook up with someone in a relationship and Amanda said that's not true and mentioned how Camila banged Vince  (which sounds belivable) and it doesn't help Camila is banging Tony as we speak. As I said she exaggerates for sure but let's not act like a lot of things she said didn't end up being partly true. I'm sure there's more examples.

Ceej3 wrote:

Graphik wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:
audreyhorne wrote:So she has low self-esteem and hooks up with disgusting guys. That's still not a reason to hate her. She's not mean or malicious. Having bad taste in men is not a personality trait, and I don't think she's ever done anything hurtful.

Who ever said they hated Jenna? Most on this site are just TIRED of seeing her and her same uselessness season after season 

I just keep seeing rumors of various castmembers hating her or beefing with and it baffles me, because I don't understand what anyone would beef with her about. I understand you can find her boring or dumb, but hating the girl is a bit much. She's literally harmless.

Well honestly we don't know what the cast members know. She might low key be a big ***** but she always gets a good edit for example. So who knows. I know Amanda/Ashley didn't like her cause of the divide and her pretending like she didn't do anything with Bruno when she did. 

She has a passive-aggressive, sneaky side that has showed itself from time to time (case in point: her letting Amanda get villainized for "lying" about Bruno then admitting to it at the reunion).

Thats a VERY good point I didn't even think about the passive aggressiveness. Guess you could also apply that how she let Zach talk to Jonna any kind of way but then would be up under him. 

Not only that, that was supposed to be her friend or they at least got along. You saw how your "friend" got treated but then you go & hook up with the dude? It's like rubbing it in her face.I saw someone else brought up how she never defended her "friend" Kailah either when Kailah would always go to bat for her on Invasion/Twitter.

That's so true. Whenever I watched Exes 2 I was always thinking about that, like she lucky isn't wasn't Rivals/Seasons Jonna cause that one would've said something to her. But now that I think about it Jenna never did stick up for Kailah on Twitter yet Kailah was ALWAYS arguing for Jenna. Plus Jenna was suppose to check Cory to imo when he did Kailah like that Jenna a fake friend on the low lol. 

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