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what have been worse the challenge house? was it exes 2? or rivals 2?

Rivals 2 for me because they didn't have air conditioning and you had to walk outside and shit just to get from room to room, that'd annoy me.

Yeah the Duel 2 intro sucked. Should have been Mark or Landon, not Evan leading the chant. And seasons 2 had the last good cast intro 

i like bloodlines intro tbh

rwportland2 wrote:

Yeah the Duel 2 intro sucked. Should have been Mark or Landon, not Evan leading the chant. And seasons 2 had the last good cast intro 

i like bloodlines intro tbh

That one was alright too. I miss the intros when the cast was shown. Although I did like the Invasion intro.

What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

Only including the competitors with a large sample size. 

Tier 2 would be Cara Maria, Camila (unfortunately), Sarah

Tier 3: Paula, Diem, Susie (always felt she was overrated)

What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

All of them suck and are useless.

Just Kidding.

2nd Tier I think is Ashley M, Camilla, Theresa, Sarah, Cara Maria, Kellyanne, Ashley(San Diego 2).

3rd Tier I think is Jenna, Jonna, Nany, Sylvia, Nicole(Skeletons), Nicole(Bloodlines), Susie, Jenn(Denver), Jemmye, Marie, Kaiah.

Ceej3 wrote:

What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

All of them suck and are useless.Just Kidding.2nd Tier I think is Ashley M, Camilla, Theresa, Sarah, Cara Maria, Kellyanne, Ashley(San Diego 2).3rd Tier I think is Jenna, Jonna, Nany, Sylvia, Nicole(Skeletons), Nicole(Bloodlines), Susie, Jenn(Denver), Jemmye, Marie, Kaiah.

I would've put Nany tier 2 apparently she's super strong and she's been decent on the challenges especially Seasons 2 to Free Agents. 

No offense, but Nany was a flop to me. Her best season was Free Agents but it's only because she avoided the kill card all season like Reilly. Otherwise, she was a disappointment on the challenges.

No offense, but Nany was a flop to me. Her best season was Free Agents but it's only because she avoided the kill card all season like Reilly. Otherwise, she was a disappointment on the challenges.

Lol she definitely was a flop in eliminations. Plus she played the game to honestly and got into her head easily. I would love for her to comeback and play a political game like Wes, Veronica, Bananas, etc. 

I don't think Nany was a flop, just a bit disappointing. Most seasons if guys were picking a partner, gotta think she'd be the 4th or 5th girl picked. Extremely impressive for never training and smoking all day. Lmao. 

Is it fair to put Laurel/Emily/Ev in tier 1? I'd say their tier 0, usually most girls cannot compete with them 1 on 1. League of their own.

I don't think Nany was a flop, just a bit disappointing. Most seasons if guys were picking a partner, gotta think she'd be the 4th or 5th girl picked. Extremely impressive for never training and smoking all day. Lmao. Is it fair to put Laurel/Emily/Ev in tier 1? I'd say their tier 0, usually most girls cannot compete with them 1 on 1. League of their own.

i also put Rachel in tier 1. I do agree about Nany being more disappointing than a flop. seasons 2 Nany was everything. It's sad she never bounced back from that. 

nany wasnt a flop in eliminations. she had to go against good competitors every single time and even then she held her own every time

sarah rice is definitely better than ashley M and that was shown on rivals 3. sarah, cara, theresa have all been on seasons where they were the #1 girls. nany is good but she cant keep up with the likes of sarah, theresa, cara maria and probably camila

ashley K has been a disappoitment. I would pick nany oevr ashley K anyday

Instead of coming up with all these new themes and twist they should just give us a

Cutthroat II

Ruins 2 

Inferno

Battle of the Sexes 

Island II

with a revised format for all , that way casting can be unlimited , but realistically they don't want that.

Debut Album wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

All of them suck and are useless.Just Kidding.2nd Tier I think is Ashley M, Camilla, Theresa, Sarah, Cara Maria, Kellyanne, Ashley(San Diego 2).3rd Tier I think is Jenna, Jonna, Nany, Sylvia, Nicole(Skeletons), Nicole(Bloodlines), Susie, Jenn(Denver), Jemmye, Marie, Kaiah.

I would've put Nany tier 2 apparently she's super strong and she's been decent on the challenges especially Seasons 2 to Free Agents. 

nany is strong and very decent but shes definitely not in tier 2 if tier 2 has sarah and theresa since both of those girls have shown up nany on multiple occasions. she is one notch below theresa/sarah but then again so is ashley K and probably ashley M 

ashley M is good at puzzles but physically she doesnt really touch cara, theresa, or sarah

Ceej3 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

All of them suck and are useless.Just Kidding.2nd Tier I think is Ashley M, Camilla, Theresa, Sarah, Cara Maria, Kellyanne, Ashley(San Diego 2).3rd Tier I think is Jenna, Jonna, Nany, Sylvia, Nicole(Skeletons), Nicole(Bloodlines), Susie, Jenn(Denver), Jemmye, Marie, Kaiah.

I would've put Nany tier 2 apparently she's super strong and she's been decent on the challenges especially Seasons 2 to Free Agents. 

nany is strong and very decent but shes definitely not in tier 2 if tier 2 has sarah and theresa since both of those girls have shown up nany on multiple occasions. she is one notch below theresa/sarah but then again so is ashley K and probably ashley M ashley M is good at puzzles but physically she doesnt really touch cara, theresa, or sarah

Well we can't really say Ashley M doesn't touch them cause she's never went up against them one on one. Plus she won a season way quicker than them (the format helped but the final was all her). Plus what's so good about Theresa. She's a great swimmer and great endurance runner not to mention decent at puzzles but she flops at eliminations too plus her social game sucks. The only reason she made it far on Exes 2 was cause of Wes

Nany should've let Wes been on his Exes 2 shit on Rivals 3. Trying to make him play an honest game. ***** y'all here for the money not to be all nice and have ethics 

Onehappycamper wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

All of them suck and are useless.Just Kidding.2nd Tier I think is Ashley M, Camilla, Theresa, Sarah, Cara Maria, Kellyanne, Ashley(San Diego 2).3rd Tier I think is Jenna, Jonna, Nany, Sylvia, Nicole(Skeletons), Nicole(Bloodlines), Susie, Jenn(Denver), Jemmye, Marie, Kaiah.

I would've put Nany tier 2 apparently she's super strong and she's been decent on the challenges especially Seasons 2 to Free Agents. 

nany is strong and very decent but shes definitely not in tier 2 if tier 2 has sarah and theresa since both of those girls have shown up nany on multiple occasions. she is one notch below theresa/sarah but then again so is ashley K and probably ashley M ashley M is good at puzzles but physically she doesnt really touch cara, theresa, or sarah

Well we can't really say Ashley M doesn't touch them cause she's never went up against them one on one. Plus she won a season way quicker than them (the format helped but the final was all her). Plus what's so good about Theresa. She's a great swimmer and great endurance runner not to mention decent at puzzles but she flops at eliminations too plus her social game sucks. The only reason she made it far on Exes 2 was cause of Wes

winning a season doesnt matter and you dont need a one on one to see how she stacks up because sarah outperformed the hell out of ashley on rivals 3 in practically every single mission. if you want to talk about one on one then lets bring in christina leblanc who beat ashley M. she did a good job in the final but she made up a lot of time on the puzzles which is where i said she was great at. i dont consider puzzle people with decent/good athletic abilities to be top competitors. if that were the case then emily and rachel wouldnt sniff the top and aviv from FM1 would be top tier. from what we saw on invasion, ashley M isnt quite as athletic as camila and sarah/theresa are arguably as athletic or perhaps more athletic than camila

ashley M is probably on the same level as nany

if you think theresa was only successful on exes 2 because of wes then you really need to watch that season again to tighten up your facts. theresa CARRIED their team by outperforming all the girls(including sarah) in mission after mission and she would have done so again in the last elmination against nia and leroy if wes hadnt ****** up as bad as he did by giving nia a 30 foot start advantage in hall brawl. wes was replaceable as a male partner that season and theresa would have done just as well if you gave her most of the other male partners there. johnny didnt have any political game on exes 2 because nany wasnt able to beat theresa in the daily missions

now watch rivals 3...same wes, same politics that got him NOWHERE because he couldnt win a challenge to salve his life. if you have no power(from winning challenges) then you have no political sway. nobody is going to listen to a loser that cant do anything which is why wes is a flop on every season where he(and his team) cant perform athletically

Nany should've let Wes been on his Exes 2 shit on Rivals 3. Trying to make him play an honest game. ***** y'all here for the money not to be all nice and have ethics 

wes did try to play politics on rivals 3 but nobody gave a f-ck about his opinion or views because he was a weak, impotent loser who sucked at everything. dario turned against wes because he was scared of johnny because of how many challenges they were going to win. nobody was scared of wes therefore wes had no impact

Ceej3 wrote:

Onehappycamper wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
Ceej3 wrote:What girls do you all consider Tier 2 and Tier 3 competitors? 

All of them suck and are useless.Just Kidding.2nd Tier I think is Ashley M, Camilla, Theresa, Sarah, Cara Maria, Kellyanne, Ashley(San Diego 2).3rd Tier I think is Jenna, Jonna, Nany, Sylvia, Nicole(Skeletons), Nicole(Bloodlines), Susie, Jenn(Denver), Jemmye, Marie, Kaiah.

I would've put Nany tier 2 apparently she's super strong and she's been decent on the challenges especially Seasons 2 to Free Agents. 

nany is strong and very decent but shes definitely not in tier 2 if tier 2 has sarah and theresa since both of those girls have shown up nany on multiple occasions. she is one notch below theresa/sarah but then again so is ashley K and probably ashley M ashley M is good at puzzles but physically she doesnt really touch cara, theresa, or sarah

Well we can't really say Ashley M doesn't touch them cause she's never went up against them one on one. Plus she won a season way quicker than them (the format helped but the final was all her). Plus what's so good about Theresa. She's a great swimmer and great endurance runner not to mention decent at puzzles but she flops at eliminations too plus her social game sucks. The only reason she made it far on Exes 2 was cause of Wes

winning a season doesnt matter and you dont need a one on one to see how she stacks up because sarah outperformed the hell out of ashley on rivals 3 in practically every single mission. if you want to talk about one on one then lets bring in christina leblanc who beat ashley M. she did a good job in the final but she made up a lot of time on the puzzles which is where i said she was great at. i dont consider puzzle people with decent/good athletic abilities to be top competitors. if that were the case then emily and rachel wouldnt sniff the top and aviv from FM1 would be top tier. from what we saw on invasion, ashley M isnt quite as athletic as camila and sarah/theresa are arguably as athletic or perhaps more athletic than camilaashley M is probably on the same level as nanyif you think theresa was only successful on exes 2 because of wes then you really need to watch that season again to tighten up your facts. theresa CARRIED their team by outperforming all the girls(including sarah) in mission after mission and she would have done so again in the last elmination against nia and leroy if wes hadnt ****** up as bad as he did by giving nia a 30 foot start advantage in hall brawl. wes was replaceable as a male partner that season and theresa would have done just as well if you gave her most of the other male partners there. johnny didnt have any political game on exes 2 because nany wasnt able to beat theresa in the daily missionsnow watch rivals 3...same wes, same politics that got him NOWHERE because he couldnt win a challenge to salve his life. if you have no power(from winning challenges) then you have no political sway. nobody is going to listen to a loser that cant do anything which is why wes is a flop on every season where he(and his team) cant perform athletically

Like I said Theresa was carried by Wes on Exes 2. I never said she sucked. She was one of the best girls there. But look at Free Agents she was one of the best girls there but her social game is TERRIBLE. I do agree though with them winning it definitely helped. I also agree with your Rivals 3 point as well. Him and Nany were definitely (on paper) one of the better teams there and they underperformed all season. Now had it been Fresh Meat Wes and Seasons 2 Nany they would've brought it. 

Both Wes and Nany didn't seem to care on Rivals 3 tho honestly. They were more comic relief than anything 

Someone in the Facebook group just said Sarah and Jordan dominated Exes 2. I CAN'T

theresa's social game didnt hinder her on free agents.  she got sent in against camila but it didnt matter because she beat camila. she went home at about the same point as she did on exes 2....the elimination before the final in a puzzle against laurel. the issue on free agents was that laurel was there and that theresa wasnt as physical as she was on exes 2. she upped her physical game on exes 2 and there was no laurel

the argument can be made that wes not only did not carry theresa on exes 2 but that he also sunk her ship politically. theresa's political game on exes 2 would've been fine without wes. she was aligned with johnny, zach, reilly on free agents. jordan, johnny, reilly were not team theresa because she was partners with wes. being partnered with wes FORCED her to be in the reject alliance

What competitors have great social/politcal games? 

What competitors have great social/politcal games? 

Like it or not the first name that came into my mind was Evan. The dude was basically the mastermind behind the JEK era and he was almost all the time safe because  of his politics and because he was performing like hell. i would've said Kenny as well but we only saw his political game on FM2. From the female side Evelyn has a great view in the political game. Mark is one of the best in social games (never thrown in).

What competitors have great social/politcal games? 

Theresa jk jk.

I would say Mark, the greatest of all time when it comes to politics and social game.

When will your faves?

 

Women Top tier:  Holly Shand, Emily Bailey, Laurel Stucky, Evelyn Smith, Jodi Weatherton & Rachel Robinson.  Jodi & Rachel are borderline

 

 

 Women Top tier:  Holly Shand, Emily Bailey, Laurel Stucky, Evelyn Smith, Jodi Weatherton & Rachel Robinson.  Jodi & Rachel are borderline  

You forgot Legend Brooke Mitchell

I feel like Holly Shand could still dominate the challenges 

I feel like Holly Shand could still dominate the challenges 

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