I agree with kvm, the new guys sucks a lot competition wise, and don't bring Nelson's wins last season. That Underdogs team was all flops let's be real.
sure not the best crop of talent he beat but it is not like he was going against Danny Jamison the elimination king or Tyrie! haha
Nelson's done...wow, this keeps getting better and better other than Darrell. 3 of the 5 finalists from Invasion are gone. Only CT & Camila remain which isn't surprising. Now if we can just get Tony, Dario and Bananas out we're in great. Yes, I'm at the point where I'm fine with Jordan making the final.
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enough
Cory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
I agree with kvm, the new guys sucks a lot competition wise, and don't bring Nelson's wins last season. That Underdogs team was all flops let's be real.
sure not the best crop of talent he beat but it is not like he was going against Danny Jamison the elimination king or Tyrie! haha
sure. I was just trying to say that this new era of competitors are very very weak compared to the old days.
kvm1977 wrote:Nelson's done...wow, this keeps getting better and better other than Darrell. 3 of the 5 finalists from Invasion are gone. Only CT & Camila remain which isn't surprising. Now if we can just get Tony, Dario and Bananas out we're in great. Yes, I'm at the point where I'm fine with Jordan making the final.
how is this better and better? the end game is the same ol crowd. It is time for some new blood. I find the boot order predictable besides Darrell Cory and Nelson honestly.
Cory & Nelosn losing wasn't surprising. At best, they're average. I'd love to see some new blood--too bad the new guys all suck. Looks like we have to rely on the girls for earning something. An out-of-shape CT beat Nelosn & Cory in a final. Imagine what CT, Evan, Landon, etc would have done to these kids in their prime. The competition has crashed. Vets still saving the show
Cory & Nelson are gone this early clearly because they have no numbers this time around. I'm sure they seen a few eliminations before they went out. The cast is filled with 90% of Bananas' minions, we all knew going into this season especially with this cast that the non-minions will be out first. I wouldn't be shocked if Hunter, Dario, Britni, and Tori are next. Honestly it's such a predictable elimination order. Also I wouldn't say the vets are saving the show, you put some of those vets on a season like "Battle of the seasons 2012" where newbies have solid numbers they'd be targeted quick but if you put them on a season like this where half the numbers are in their favor of course they'll run the show. Most of these vets would never have won a season had they not cast all their friends/minions with them constantly.
Also, you make it seem like CT won by a lot. I doubt this but I wouldn't be surprised if Nelson really did have the faster time.
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
Nelson's done...wow, this keeps getting better and better other than Darrell. 3 of the 5 finalists from Invasion are gone. Only CT & Camila remain which isn't surprising. Now if we can just get Tony, Dario and Bananas out we're in great. Yes, I'm at the point where I'm fine with Jordan making the final.
What's your ideal final 3 for guys and girls
Deam scenario...Derrick K/Jordan/Hunter & Aneesa/Veronica/Tori though I don't think I'd be happy wheJordan and Tori won
Realistic final IMO Derrick K/Leroy/CT & Cara/Tori/Brittini
kvm1977 wrote:Nelson's done...wow, this keeps getting better and better other than Darrell. 3 of the 5 finalists from Invasion are gone. Only CT & Camila remain which isn't surprising. Now if we can just get Tony, Dario and Bananas out we're in great. Yes, I'm at the point where I'm fine with Jordan making the final.
What's your ideal final 3 for guys and girls
Deam scenario...Derrick K/Jordan/Hunter & Aneesa/Veronica/Tori though I don't think I'd be happy wheJordan and Tori wonRealistic final IMO Derrick K/Leroy/CT & Cara/Tori/BrittiniI think Johnny & Camila will get screwed
We aren't too far apart. I want Jordan, Derrick and Bananas for the guys and Tori, Veronica and Kaliah for the girls.
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote.
If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have counted
I was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
kvm1977 wrote:Nelson's done...wow, this keeps getting better and better other than Darrell. 3 of the 5 finalists from Invasion are gone. Only CT & Camila remain which isn't surprising. Now if we can just get Tony, Dario and Bananas out we're in great. Yes, I'm at the point where I'm fine with Jordan making the final.
What's your ideal final 3 for guys and girls
Deam scenario...Derrick K/Jordan/Hunter & Aneesa/Veronica/Tori though I don't think I'd be happy wheJordan and Tori wonRealistic final IMO Derrick K/Leroy/CT & Cara/Tori/BrittiniI think Johnny & Camila will get screwed
We aren't too far apart. I want Jordan, Derrick and Bananas for the guys and Tori, Veronica and Kaliah for the girls.
I'd be happy if Kailah got there well. There better not be pairs again
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote. If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have countedI was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
So ok with your parameters then the elimination between shane, cory, nelson and hunter when hunter went home then the other 3 guys should get eliminations wins added to their resume with your rules since someone went home.
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote. If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have countedI was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
So that doesn't count as an elimination win for Ashley either according to you?
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote. If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have countedI was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
So ok with your parameters then the elimination between shane, cory, nelson and hunter when hunter went home then the other 3 guys should get eliminations wins added to their resume with your rules since someone went home.
No, Shane & Amanda won thsoe. Nelson & Cory merely survived
Honestly real world Portland was the last real world season with any potential... Jordan, Marlon, Johnny R, Nia and Averey are all good competitors. After that season everyone is a flop ... including AYTO kids smh
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote. If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have countedI was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
So ok with your parameters then the elimination between shane, cory, nelson and hunter when hunter went home then the other 3 guys should get eliminations wins added to their resume with your rules since someone went home.
No, Shane & Amanda won thsoe. Nelson & Cory merely survived
i agree with this I honestly think they should've went to the final for winning that
Honestly real world Portland was the last real world season with any potential... Jordan, Marlon, Johnny R, Nia and Averey are all good competitors. After that season everyone is a flop ... including AYTO kids smh
Marlon had the most potential imo. He was honorable mention all conference I think for the big 12. He is a really good athlete for college athlete which means he would be a great athlete for the challenge. lol **** a lot of ayto hate. Guess I will be the torch bearer around here as the AYTO fan. AYTO has plenty of potential. Hunter, Nelson, Devin, Dario, Adam Kuhn and Amanda have flashed it and you will see how good Tori and Britni will be in season 30. They are starting to cast better people from ayto on the challenge finally. I mean come on we all knew Nate, Christina, Brandon, John, Simone and Brianna would flop. They were never ever any real threat.
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote. If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have countedI was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
So ok with your parameters then the elimination between shane, cory, nelson and hunter when hunter went home then the other 3 guys should get eliminations wins added to their resume with your rules since someone went home.
No, Shane & Amanda won thsoe. Nelson & Cory merely survived
And Nelson won his. I am not penalizing the man just because no one went home until it was shane vs cory. Your basically saying that 3 man competition never happened and nelson did not win.
I'm pretty sure even MTV/producers will count Ashley and nelsons win in the 3-way elimination as ONE win, as well as Cory and Nicole for then beating Shane and Amanda
Honestly real world Portland was the last real world season with any potential... Jordan, Marlon, Johnny R, Nia and Averey are all good competitors. After that season everyone is a flop ... including AYTO kids smh
That's an unfair statement. Most people from these newer seasons either keep declining, keep getting dropped or they don't receive calls at all which is why we have to depend on the same 2 people from each of these newer seasons to represent. We're at a point where we get the same people from Explosion, Skeletons, GBGH, and AYTO when they realize they have so many great people to cast from those seasons but they worry about casting the same people over and over again. **** the last RW season had about 13 cast members and then none appeared this new season. Portland is different because they each appeared on a season and were able to represent properly. It's hard to say Explosion hasn't shown potential when we only seen 4-5 of them debut and most of them were the last people we wanted to see do challenges from that season. Portland was the last season to get everyone we wanted on a challenge meanwhile all the other seasons take years just to get a new face to represent and to be fair most of the people you named from Portland are average competitors besides Jordan/Marlon.
I hate hmmm...it makes me worry about Veronica and Aneesa every time
I would not worry about aneesa until/if cara and the other remaining good competitors goes to exile SHe is going to throw around the other girls like a rag doll.
kvm1977 wrote:Nelson's done...wow, this keeps getting better and better other than Darrell. 3 of the 5 finalists from Invasion are gone. Only CT & Camila remain which isn't surprising. Now if we can just get Tony, Dario and Bananas out we're in great. Yes, I'm at the point where I'm fine with Jordan making the final.
how is this better and better? the end game is the same ol crowd. It is time for some new blood. I find the boot order predictable besides Darrell Cory and Nelson honestly.
Cory & Nelosn losing wasn't surprising. At best, they're average. I'd love to see some new blood--too bad the new guys all suck. Looks like we have to rely on the girls for earning something. An out-of-shape CT beat Nelosn & Cory in a final. Imagine what CT, Evan, Landon, etc would have done to these kids in their prime. The competition has crashed. Vets still saving the show
Cory & Nelson are gone this early clearly because they have no numbers this time around. I'm sure they seen a few eliminations before they went out. The cast is filled with 90% of Bananas' minions, we all knew going into this season especially with this cast that the non-minions will be out first. I wouldn't be shocked if Hunter, Dario, Britni, and Tori are next. Honestly it's such a predictable elimination order. Also I wouldn't say the vets are saving the show, you put some of those vets on a season like "Battle of the seasons 2012" where newbies have solid numbers they'd be targeted quick but if you put them on a season like this where half the numbers are in their favor of course they'll run the show. Most of these vets would never have won a season had they not cast all their friends/minions with them constantly. Also, you make it seem like CT won by a lot. I doubt this but I wouldn't be surprised if Nelson really did have the faster time.
I think the rumor going around that they did not show because she is their golden girl and female bananas in the edit is that camilla tried to quit when she was paired with Nelson and that is where he lost this season.
kvm1977 wrote:I like new people that represent. I don't want all old-schoolers. I want a mix. It's just pathetic that Cory & Nelson are the best we have for guys in this era. Pathetic. New people used to come in and earn their spots. They'd over time. Cory has alredy done as many as Landon and still has no clue what's going on.Invasion...Amanda, Ashley, Sylvia, Kaliah, Nicole and even Anika did enough I'd like to see them back. Yet Shane was the only Underdog guy that was relevan We all know that not a single Underdog for the guys had any chance making a final if they had to face off against the Champs in elimiatnionsWhen Cory & Nelosn get better let me know. Otherwise we're going to see Bananas until he's 55
Thought you were a fan of Hunter?! what happened to that? you drop him already? haha. Cory beat shane 1 on 1 in a physical elimination. Nelson won 3 eliminations this season. How did they not do enough for you want to see them back but anika did?........ what?
1. Yeah, I like Hunter but no one else does for some weird reason but, at best, he's Derrick K2. Nelson did not win 3 eliminations3. Cory beating Shane isn't impressive. Shane's not going to win purely physical eliminations. Cory's performance in the final ruined anything decent he's ever done. He's worse than Zach...he's borderline Big Easy in a final. That's not fair but it's not far off
http://thechallenge.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Thomas 4 and 1 in eliminations to start his career off. Not bad. Your going to say the 3 man elimination does not count since no one went home. Well why knock Nelson for winning 3 man and say it does not count but cory gets to count his win against shane? I love Hunter. Him and Nelson are my 2 favorite new guys. They have shown me enough promise to give me hope for the future. I like Cory he just needs get better at endurance.He is a strong guy the potential is there. Yah he was terrible in that final. There is no way at getting around it. You will get no excuses from me. I was even excited about even Derrick H since he was a pretty good college basketball player at that level of competition. Devin has the political game down he just needs to get serious about training before I take him seriously and get excited about him again. He really let me down this season.
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enoughCory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote. If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have countedI was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
So ok with your parameters then the elimination between shane, cory, nelson and hunter when hunter went home then the other 3 guys should get eliminations wins added to their resume with your rules since someone went home.
No, Shane & Amanda won thsoe. Nelson & Cory merely survived
And Nelson won his. I am not penalizing the man just because no one went home until it was shane vs cory. Your basically saying that 3 man competition never happened and nelson did not win.
I said it wasn't an elimination round which is fact not opinion...no one as eliminated
That ain't gonna happen sorry
sure not the best crop of talent he beat but it is not like he was going against Danny Jamison the elimination king or Tyrie! haha
What's your ideal final 3 for guys and girls
If no one goes home it isn't an elimination round...end of story. I don't care what wiki thinks. I give him credit for outsmarting Cory though. Cory does get a win for sending Shane home...it is what it is. I do think Nelson > Cory but that's not good enough
Cory has been the biggest disappointment for me since...I don't even know. Danny Jamieson or maybe Leroy (who I keep forgetting is on this season)
sure. I was just trying to say that this new era of competitors are very very weak compared to the old days.
Cory & Nelson are gone this early clearly because they have no numbers this time around. I'm sure they seen a few eliminations before they went out. The cast is filled with 90% of Bananas' minions, we all knew going into this season especially with this cast that the non-minions will be out first. I wouldn't be shocked if Hunter, Dario, Britni, and Tori are next. Honestly it's such a predictable elimination order. Also I wouldn't say the vets are saving the show, you put some of those vets on a season like "Battle of the seasons 2012" where newbies have solid numbers they'd be targeted quick but if you put them on a season like this where half the numbers are in their favor of course they'll run the show. Most of these vets would never have won a season had they not cast all their friends/minions with them constantly.
Also, you make it seem like CT won by a lot. I doubt this but I wouldn't be surprised if Nelson really did have the faster time.
lol that makes no sense. So if he did not win the 3 man elimination but he won the 1 on 1 you would of counted it for him? so your penalizing him for winning the harder elimination where the odds are less? alrighty. Well what expectations did you have of cory? who did you think he would be?
Deam scenario...Derrick K/Jordan/Hunter & Aneesa/Veronica/Tori though I don't think I'd be happy wheJordan and Tori won
Realistic final IMO Derrick K/Leroy/CT & Cara/Tori/Brittini
I think Johnny & Camila will get screwed
We aren't too far apart. I want Jordan, Derrick and Bananas for the guys and Tori, Veronica and Kaliah for the girls.
For it to be an elimination round someone MUST BE ELIMINATED. Who says he doesn't get credit for winning it? I gave him credit for earning a spot in the final and screwing Cory. It just isn't an elimination win. Just like no one got "elimination wins" on the Island IMO because there was then a vote.
If the of 3 on Invasion saw the last place person go home then it would have counted
I was told Cory would be an elite competitor. Not average to subpar. He's very disappointing. I wasn't expecting Landon but I was hopefully for someone in a tier close to him. ****, I'd be happy if he was Dunbar at this point. He's sadly not.
I'd be happy if Kailah got there well. There better not be pairs again
So ok with your parameters then the elimination between shane, cory, nelson and hunter when hunter went home then the other 3 guys should get eliminations wins added to their resume with your rules since someone went home.
So that doesn't count as an elimination win for Ashley either according to you?
Hmmm
Honestly real world Portland was the last real world season with any potential... Jordan, Marlon, Johnny R, Nia and Averey are all good competitors.
After that season everyone is a flop ... including AYTO kids smh
No, Shane & Amanda won thsoe. Nelson & Cory merely survived
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i agree with this I honestly think they should've went to the final for winning that
I hate hmmm...it makes me worry about Veronica and Aneesa every time
Marlon had the most potential imo. He was honorable mention all conference I think for the big 12. He is a really good athlete for college athlete which means he would be a great athlete for the challenge. lol **** a lot of ayto hate. Guess I will be the torch bearer around here as the AYTO fan. AYTO has plenty of potential. Hunter, Nelson, Devin, Dario, Adam Kuhn and Amanda have flashed it and you will see how good Tori and Britni will be in season 30. They are starting to cast better people from ayto on the challenge finally. I mean come on we all knew Nate, Christina, Brandon, John, Simone and Brianna would flop. They were never ever any real threat.
And Nelson won his. I am not penalizing the man just because no one went home until it was shane vs cory. Your basically saying that 3 man competition never happened and nelson did not win.
I'm pretty sure even MTV/producers will count Ashley and nelsons win in the 3-way elimination as ONE win, as well as Cory and Nicole for then beating Shane and Amanda
That's an unfair statement. Most people from these newer seasons either keep declining, keep getting dropped or they don't receive calls at all which is why we have to depend on the same 2 people from each of these newer seasons to represent. We're at a point where we get the same people from Explosion, Skeletons, GBGH, and AYTO when they realize they have so many great people to cast from those seasons but they worry about casting the same people over and over again. **** the last RW season had about 13 cast members and then none appeared this new season. Portland is different because they each appeared on a season and were able to represent properly. It's hard to say Explosion hasn't shown potential when we only seen 4-5 of them debut and most of them were the last people we wanted to see do challenges from that season. Portland was the last season to get everyone we wanted on a challenge meanwhile all the other seasons take years just to get a new face to represent and to be fair most of the people you named from Portland are average competitors besides Jordan/Marlon.
I would not worry about aneesa until/if cara and the other remaining good competitors goes to exile SHe is going to throw around the other girls like a rag doll.
I think the rumor going around that they did not show because she is their golden girl and female bananas in the edit is that camilla tried to quit when she was paired with Nelson and that is where he lost this season.
I said it wasn't an elimination round which is fact not opinion...no one as eliminated
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