A Misty got nothing to lose. Those people are dangerous.
I am shock that he was even ask and made the final cast after he literally made his friend send us the huge Jenna post about her being a racist and supporting the Kkk. I though he was going to get banned for spoiling the biggest storyline of that season.Then he made it obvious that he was leaving to film this challenge the weekend before departure. One of the main reasons I font think he is out, is that clearly he doesnt give an F and he would make it obvious.
TOTALLY!Part of me honestly think that when they saw Shane perform so well and he declined that they wanted another guy similar them him (not just sexuality), he was the only option and maybe they thought in these times that with his strong believes, he is going to clash with them instantly.
Chris was in the run super early on, someone from BMP/MTV wanted him for w.e reason lol
A Misty got nothing to lose. Those people are dangerous.
I am shock that he was even ask and made the final cast after he literally made his friend send us the huge Jenna post about her being a racist and supporting the Kkk. I though he was going to get banned for spoiling the biggest storyline of that season.Then he made it obvious that he was leaving to film this challenge the weekend before departure. One of the main reasons I font think he is out, is that clearly he doesnt give an F and he would make it obvious.
TOTALLY!Part of me honestly think that when they saw Shane perform so well and he declined that they wanted another guy similar them him (not just sexuality), he was the only option and maybe they thought in these times that with his strong believes, he is going to clash with them instantly.
Chris was in the run super early on, someone from BMP/MTV wanted him for w.e reason lol
He looks different and definitely has a big mouth. I hope he defends the girls against the bad behaviour from the guys towards them like he said many times on twitter he would do.Ohhh and if anyone pulls those Invasion pranks on him, it's game over.
How likely is the old/new/AYTO format? I think if its 3 teams its more likely to be a draft a la Cutthroat than the old/new/AYTO format
There's 10 AYTO--5 guys/5 girls...I can't imagine that was coincidental given there's countless better people
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
kvm1977 wrote:If it is new/old/ayto...I don't expect Cory or Jenna to see an elimination either unless they lose that much that there's no other option. Actually, Cory might--tough call between Cory & Jordan--not sure which one is more likely to get a free pass. I'm not convince AYTO even has a team at the end especially if the second guy out is AYTO
In the scenario of this format, I fully expect to have a twist similar to Survivor where they are going to mix up the teams since productions likes to do these twists lately.And I do hope that production let the other teams decide who goes in from the losing team. What happened on Cutthroat got boring really fast.
Completely disagree--it doesn't get boring it gets better--they shouldn't split up the teams. That works on Survivor because it is an individual game--we need a legit big team format. The winning team should pick who goes in from the last place team and the team that finishes second should pick their own people but other than that no changes are needed from the original set up
Yeah that would be fine with me. I just don't want someone do all the eliminations and most of them get a easy way to the final who barely did anything.
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
el_greco wrote:How likely is the old/new/AYTO format? I think if its 3 teams its more likely to be a draft a la Cutthroat than the old/new/AYTO format
There's 10 AYTO--5 guys/5 girls...I can't imagine that was coincidental given there's countless better people
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
Fair argument but that has nothing to do with what i said. There's 10 AYTO for a reason. I wish there would have been a real old school team (not Leroy, Jemmye, Camila & Cara) but it is what it is
kvm1977 wrote:If it is new/old/ayto...I don't expect Cory or Jenna to see an elimination either unless they lose that much that there's no other option. Actually, Cory might--tough call between Cory & Jordan--not sure which one is more likely to get a free pass. I'm not convince AYTO even has a team at the end especially if the second guy out is AYTO
In the scenario of this format, I fully expect to have a twist similar to Survivor where they are going to mix up the teams since productions likes to do these twists lately.And I do hope that production let the other teams decide who goes in from the losing team. What happened on Cutthroat got boring really fast.
Completely disagree--it doesn't get boring it gets better--they shouldn't split up the teams. That works on Survivor because it is an individual game--we need a legit big team format. The winning team should pick who goes in from the last place team and the team that finishes second should pick their own people but other than that no changes are needed from the original set up
Yeah that would be fine with me. I just don't want someone do all the eliminations and most of them get a easy way to the final who barely did anything.
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
4 people are too much especially since they were the ones with the most experience so to speak. Secret cross voting is the best.
kvm1977 wrote:If it is new/old/ayto...I don't expect Cory or Jenna to see an elimination either unless they lose that much that there's no other option. Actually, Cory might--tough call between Cory & Jordan--not sure which one is more likely to get a free pass. I'm not convince AYTO even has a team at the end especially if the second guy out is AYTO
In the scenario of this format, I fully expect to have a twist similar to Survivor where they are going to mix up the teams since productions likes to do these twists lately.And I do hope that production let the other teams decide who goes in from the losing team. What happened on Cutthroat got boring really fast.
Completely disagree--it doesn't get boring it gets better--they shouldn't split up the teams. That works on Survivor because it is an individual game--we need a legit big team format. The winning team should pick who goes in from the last place team and the team that finishes second should pick their own people but other than that no changes are needed from the original set up
Yeah that would be fine with me. I just don't want someone do all the eliminations and most of them get a easy way to the final who barely did anything.
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
4 people are too much especially since they were the ones with the most experience so to speak. Secret cross voting is the best.
4 out of 30 with only 9 elimination rounds isn't bad at all.
el_greco wrote:How likely is the old/new/AYTO format? I think if its 3 teams its more likely to be a draft a la Cutthroat than the old/new/AYTO format
There's 10 AYTO--5 guys/5 girls...I can't imagine that was coincidental given there's countless better people
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
Fair argument but that has nothing to do with what i said. There's 10 AYTO for a reason. I wish there would have been a real old school team (not Leroy, Jemmye, Camila & Cara) but it is what it is
I guess what I am trying to say is I agree that 10 AYTO and being 1/3 of the cast is really convenient but the rest of the cast makes no obvious sense for teams and that makes me doubt the format
A Misty got nothing to lose. Those people are dangerous.
I am shock that he was even ask and made the final cast after he literally made his friend send us the huge Jenna post about her being a racist and supporting the Kkk. I though he was going to get banned for spoiling the biggest storyline of that season.Then he made it obvious that he was leaving to film this challenge the weekend before departure. One of the main reasons I font think he is out, is that clearly he doesnt give an F and he would make it obvious.
TOTALLY!Part of me honestly think that when they saw Shane perform so well and he declined that they wanted another guy similar them him (not just sexuality), he was the only option and maybe they thought in these times that with his strong believes, he is going to clash with them instantly.
Chris was in the run super early on, someone from BMP/MTV wanted him for w.e reason lol
He looks different and definitely has a big mouth. I hope he defends the girls against the bad behaviour from the guys towards them like he said many times on twitter he would do.Ohhh and if anyone pulls those Invasion pranks on him, it's game over.
I doubt he is ashorrible in person like he was on twitter and on real world lol
Everyone except for Jenna T and to an extend Kailah got along with him. Dione/Ceejai/Dylan to my understanding did pranks , he never had a meltdown over them
el_greco wrote:How likely is the old/new/AYTO format? I think if its 3 teams its more likely to be a draft a la Cutthroat than the old/new/AYTO format
There's 10 AYTO--5 guys/5 girls...I can't imagine that was coincidental given there's countless better people
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
Fair argument but that has nothing to do with what i said. There's 10 AYTO for a reason. I wish there would have been a real old school team (not Leroy, Jemmye, Camila & Cara) but it is what it is
I guess what I am trying to say is I agree that 10 AYTO and being 1/3 of the cast is really convenient but the rest of the cast makes no obvious sense for teams and that makes me doubt the format
Yes they do make sense , there is a reason why we have 10 ppl from rw sthomas-go big/bloodlines.
el_greco wrote:How likely is the old/new/AYTO format? I think if its 3 teams its more likely to be a draft a la Cutthroat than the old/new/AYTO format
There's 10 AYTO--5 guys/5 girls...I can't imagine that was coincidental given there's countless better people
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
Fair argument but that has nothing to do with what i said. There's 10 AYTO for a reason. I wish there would have been a real old school team (not Leroy, Jemmye, Camila & Cara) but it is what it is
I guess what I am trying to say is I agree that 10 AYTO and being 1/3 of the cast is really convenient but the rest of the cast makes no obvious sense for teams and that makes me doubt the format
You're wrong...there's an obvious cut on debut. Do I consider Jemmye, Camila, CM or Leroy "Old School"--absolutely not but there's a line that obvious. If we couldn't make the line then you'd be on to something but just because you (and I) don't like where the line is drawn doesn't make it wrong. If there were actually Fresh Meat guys worth adding then it could have been AYTO vs. RW vs. RR/FM/Bloodlines
The objective is to reach the end without having to go into an elimination round. The Ruins was the only time we got a format that actually could have caused people to want to go in
So if the teams are Old vs New vs AYTO and it's similar to Cutthroat "Old" most likely won the first challenge since someone from New and someone from AYTO went home first. If those are the teams I just reallllly hope it's not a shutout and Old doesn't win almost everytime.
kvm1977 wrote:If it is new/old/ayto...I don't expect Cory or Jenna to see an elimination either unless they lose that much that there's no other option. Actually, Cory might--tough call between Cory & Jordan--not sure which one is more likely to get a free pass. I'm not convince AYTO even has a team at the end especially if the second guy out is AYTO
In the scenario of this format, I fully expect to have a twist similar to Survivor where they are going to mix up the teams since productions likes to do these twists lately.And I do hope that production let the other teams decide who goes in from the losing team. What happened on Cutthroat got boring really fast.
Completely disagree--it doesn't get boring it gets better--they shouldn't split up the teams. That works on Survivor because it is an individual game--we need a legit big team format. The winning team should pick who goes in from the last place team and the team that finishes second should pick their own people but other than that no changes are needed from the original set up
Yeah that would be fine with me. I just don't want someone do all the eliminations and most of them get a easy way to the final who barely did anything.
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
4 people are too much especially since they were the ones with the most experience so to speak. Secret cross voting is the best.
4 out of 30 with only 9 elimination rounds isn't bad at all.
The problem I have here is after the first episode it was clear who will go far based of this format of each team choosing who will go into the elimination round. Brad was safe, Abram was safe, Jenn was safe and even Sarah was fairly predictable. The only ones that were surprising to see an elimination round were John/Laurel. The picking order was predictable which is what I don't want to see as a viewer. It basically had nothing to do with being cutthroat for me. Only the last three episodes the last part of the show got interesting.
el_greco wrote:How likely is the old/new/AYTO format? I think if its 3 teams its more likely to be a draft a la Cutthroat than the old/new/AYTO format
There's 10 AYTO--5 guys/5 girls...I can't imagine that was coincidental given there's countless better people
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
Fair argument but that has nothing to do with what i said. There's 10 AYTO for a reason. I wish there would have been a real old school team (not Leroy, Jemmye, Camila & Cara) but it is what it is
I guess what I am trying to say is I agree that 10 AYTO and being 1/3 of the cast is really convenient but the rest of the cast makes no obvious sense for teams and that makes me doubt the format
You're wrong...there's an obvious cut on debut. Do I consider Jemmye, Camila, CM or Leroy "Old School"--absolutely not but there's a line that obvious. If we couldn't make the line then you'd be on to something but just because you (and I) don't like where the line is drawn doesn't make it wrong. If there were actually Fresh Meat guys worth adding then it could have been AYTO vs. RW vs. RR/FM/Bloodlines
I guess... but I'm gonna be stubborn and not believe it until it's confirmed
I doubt it's old vs new vs ayto if it's cutthroat 2 because Shane would have had too many people protecting him from the vote going into the first one...Tony/Cory/Shane/Kailah/Jenna and likely Jordan voting with the crew against Ashley/Latoya/Chris with Marie in the middle.
kvm1977 wrote:If it is new/old/ayto...I don't expect Cory or Jenna to see an elimination either unless they lose that much that there's no other option. Actually, Cory might--tough call between Cory & Jordan--not sure which one is more likely to get a free pass. I'm not convince AYTO even has a team at the end especially if the second guy out is AYTO
In the scenario of this format, I fully expect to have a twist similar to Survivor where they are going to mix up the teams since productions likes to do these twists lately.And I do hope that production let the other teams decide who goes in from the losing team. What happened on Cutthroat got boring really fast.
Completely disagree--it doesn't get boring it gets better--they shouldn't split up the teams. That works on Survivor because it is an individual game--we need a legit big team format. The winning team should pick who goes in from the last place team and the team that finishes second should pick their own people but other than that no changes are needed from the original set up
Yeah that would be fine with me. I just don't want someone do all the eliminations and most of them get a easy way to the final who barely did anything.
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
4 people are too much especially since they were the ones with the most experience so to speak. Secret cross voting is the best.
4 out of 30 with only 9 elimination rounds isn't bad at all.
The problem I have here is after the first episode it was clear who will go far based of this format of each team choosing who will go into the elimination round. Brad was safe, Abram was safe, Jenn was safe and even Sarah was fairly predictable. The only ones that were surprising to see an elimination round were John/Laurel. The picking order was predictable which is what I don't want to see as a viewer. It basically had nothing to do with being cutthroat for me. Only the last three episodes the last part of the show got interesting.
I thought the whole thing was interesting. I like seeing mid-tier matchups with we got a lot of. I mean, if you were on a team with Brad, Abram or Jenn (given that cast) are you sending them in? I wouldn't have.
A Misty got nothing to lose. Those people are dangerous.
I am shock that he was even ask and made the final cast after he literally made his friend send us the huge Jenna post about her being a racist and supporting the Kkk. I though he was going to get banned for spoiling the biggest storyline of that season.Then he made it obvious that he was leaving to film this challenge the weekend before departure. One of the main reasons I font think he is out, is that clearly he doesnt give an F and he would make it obvious.
TOTALLY!Part of me honestly think that when they saw Shane perform so well and he declined that they wanted another guy similar them him (not just sexuality), he was the only option and maybe they thought in these times that with his strong believes, he is going to clash with them instantly.
Chris was in the run super early on, someone from BMP/MTV wanted him for w.e reason lol
He looks different and definitely has a big mouth. I hope he defends the girls against the bad behaviour from the guys towards them like he said many times on twitter he would do.Ohhh and if anyone pulls those Invasion pranks on him, it's game over.
I doubt he is ashorrible in person like he was on twitter and on real world lolEveryone except for Jenna T and to an extend Kailah got along with him. Dione/Ceejai/Dylan to my understanding did pranks , he never had a meltdown over them
I really doubt that a professional cuddler is a horrible person lolHe never had a meltdown because he was friends with them or the same vibe, but if someone likes Bananas pulls a prank on him, Chris is going to try to top that and nothing will stop him, he doesn't like to be viewed as a joke and made fun of.
I doubt it's old vs new vs ayto if it's cutthroat 2 because Shane would have had too many people protecting him from the vote going into the first one...Tony/Cory/Shane/Kailah/Jenna and likely Jordan voting with the crew against Ashley/Latoya/Chris with Marie in the middle.
Shane absolutely goes in first iiin that set up. No guy is going to allow Shane/Tony to be half the guys. Jordan/Cory/Chris/Marie/Latoya/Ashley all send him in...probably Kailah as well. I'm not even convinced Jenna doesn't. I'm more interested to know what girl went in if that's the format.
kvm1977 wrote:If it is new/old/ayto...I don't expect Cory or Jenna to see an elimination either unless they lose that much that there's no other option. Actually, Cory might--tough call between Cory & Jordan--not sure which one is more likely to get a free pass. I'm not convince AYTO even has a team at the end especially if the second guy out is AYTO
In the scenario of this format, I fully expect to have a twist similar to Survivor where they are going to mix up the teams since productions likes to do these twists lately.And I do hope that production let the other teams decide who goes in from the losing team. What happened on Cutthroat got boring really fast.
Completely disagree--it doesn't get boring it gets better--they shouldn't split up the teams. That works on Survivor because it is an individual game--we need a legit big team format. The winning team should pick who goes in from the last place team and the team that finishes second should pick their own people but other than that no changes are needed from the original set up
Yeah that would be fine with me. I just don't want someone do all the eliminations and most of them get a easy way to the final who barely did anything.
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
4 people are too much especially since they were the ones with the most experience so to speak. Secret cross voting is the best.
4 out of 30 with only 9 elimination rounds isn't bad at all.
The problem I have here is after the first episode it was clear who will go far based of this format of each team choosing who will go into the elimination round. Brad was safe, Abram was safe, Jenn was safe and even Sarah was fairly predictable. The only ones that were surprising to see an elimination round were John/Laurel. The picking order was predictable which is what I don't want to see as a viewer. It basically had nothing to do with being cutthroat for me. Only the last three episodes the last part of the show got interesting.
I thought the whole thing was interesting. I like seeing mid-tier matchups with we got a lot of. I mean, if you were on a team with Brad, Abram or Jenn (given that cast) are you sending them in? I wouldn't have.
Totally understandable, but I like to have a season where there are interesting matchups with big names in the beginning, in the middle and at the end and where nobody is safe which is why I like the idea that the winning team votes somebody from the losing team in. Just keeps things interesting throughout the season.
controvery over which bathroom he uses?
He looks different and definitely has a big mouth. I hope he defends the girls against the bad behaviour from the guys towards them like he said many times on twitter he would do.Ohhh and if anyone pulls those Invasion pranks on him, it's game over.
But the criteria for the other two teams being about when they debuted while the criteria for the AYTO team is the show they came from. If they wanted old school vs new school why not add 2 more people? If they want AYTO v RW v Others why nor cast the other teams for that?
I mean, only Abram, Brad, Jenn & Sarah reached the final without an elimination. Jenn definitely earned that. Grey won often enough that Abram & Sarah were fine. I blame Dunbar & Paula for Brad getting a free ride. Brandon did suck at a lot of missions
Fair argument but that has nothing to do with what i said. There's 10 AYTO for a reason. I wish there would have been a real old school team (not Leroy, Jemmye, Camila & Cara) but it is what it is
4 people are too much especially since they were the ones with the most experience so to speak. Secret cross voting is the best.
4 out of 30 with only 9 elimination rounds isn't bad at all.
I guess what I am trying to say is I agree that 10 AYTO and being 1/3 of the cast is really convenient but the rest of the cast makes no obvious sense for teams and that makes me doubt the format
I doubt he is ashorrible in person like he was on twitter and on real world lol
Everyone except for Jenna T and to an extend Kailah got along with him. Dione/Ceejai/Dylan to my understanding did pranks , he never had a meltdown over them
Sorry but I know I'm not the only one who finds an even 5males/5females from AYTO as suspicious with 30 people and possible cutthtroat theme
Yes they do make sense , there is a reason why we have 10 ppl from rw sthomas-go big/bloodlines.
It's even less bad when you consider that the Grey team couldn't have everyone go in...they only saw 8 eliminations and 8 different people went in.
So it's either CT or derrick K beinging eliminated huh
I can already smell the free ride flops.
You're wrong...there's an obvious cut on debut. Do I consider Jemmye, Camila, CM or Leroy "Old School"--absolutely not but there's a line that obvious. If we couldn't make the line then you'd be on to something but just because you (and I) don't like where the line is drawn doesn't make it wrong. If there were actually Fresh Meat guys worth adding then it could have been AYTO vs. RW vs. RR/FM/Bloodlines
Based on? Pretty sure Misty & Derrick H are still possibilities
The objective is to reach the end without having to go into an elimination round. The Ruins was the only time we got a format that actually could have caused people to want to go in
So if the teams are Old vs New vs AYTO and it's similar to Cutthroat "Old" most likely won the first challenge since someone from New and someone from AYTO went home first. If those are the teams I just reallllly hope it's not a shutout and Old doesn't win almost everytime.
The problem I have here is after the first episode it was clear who will go far based of this format of each team choosing who will go into the elimination round. Brad was safe, Abram was safe, Jenn was safe and even Sarah was fairly predictable. The only ones that were surprising to see an elimination round were John/Laurel. The picking order was predictable which is what I don't want to see as a viewer. It basically had nothing to do with being cutthroat for me. Only the last three episodes the last part of the show got interesting.
I guess... but I'm gonna be stubborn and not believe it until it's confirmed
Except she's with Chuck who was a known ****** bag on AYTO lol
I doubt it's old vs new vs ayto if it's cutthroat 2 because Shane would have had too many people protecting him from the vote going into the first one...Tony/Cory/Shane/Kailah/Jenna and likely Jordan voting with the crew against Ashley/Latoya/Chris with Marie in the middle.
I think Derrick K is gone.
Please explain yourself.
I thought the whole thing was interesting. I like seeing mid-tier matchups with we got a lot of. I mean, if you were on a team with Brad, Abram or Jenn (given that cast) are you sending them in? I wouldn't have.
I really doubt that a professional cuddler is a horrible person lolHe never had a meltdown because he was friends with them or the same vibe, but if someone likes Bananas pulls a prank on him, Chris is going to try to top that and nothing will stop him, he doesn't like to be viewed as a joke and made fun of.
Shane absolutely goes in first iiin that set up. No guy is going to allow Shane/Tony to be half the guys. Jordan/Cory/Chris/Marie/Latoya/Ashley all send him in...probably Kailah as well. I'm not even convinced Jenna doesn't. I'm more interested to know what girl went in if that's the format.
I'm just reallly happy there's a high chance of this being teams. Team voting drama is the best kind of drama.
Derrick K. by Derrick H. in Fly Swatter
Totally understandable, but I like to have a season where there are interesting matchups with big names in the beginning, in the middle and at the end and where nobody is safe which is why I like the idea that the winning team votes somebody from the losing team in. Just keeps things interesting throughout the season.
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