Varner outed Zeke as a transgender at tribal council as if him keeping that a secret made him deceitful. It was a really uncomfortable moment but it made for a beautiful moment afterwards
I have a feeling that Zeke was fine with it. He revealed it online before the episode was even released so he mustve atleast gotten told what was going to be shown.
That was the most uncomfortable tribal council in survivor history. Like this was unneeded and the worst part is he might have actually got some people to switch if he didn't.
Andrea and Sarah were ****** at zeke, but probably not anymore now. That brought them closer together and now fans see zeke as a hero. Smh varner just erased people's memories of zeke's shady game play.
I really really really hate varner and really hate defending him BUT Jeff said he knew right away after seeing zeke and assumed that was the reason he was a game changer, since nobody there besides michela has ever seen zeke before. This is a logical thing to think, that CBS would be all about having the first trans contestant and how that would make him a game changer. Jeff knew nothing about zeke's previous season and saw him acting shifty so he put two and two together that he was hiding it from the tribe as way to be sneaky. Was it the right move, **** no it was stupid and horrible. But Jeff knows that, he immediately was crushed to find out zeke hasn't told anyone. The whole painting varner as evil is just not true. He ****** up big time, but he isn't a terrible person.
I just watched that tribal and I gotta say I'm pretty disgusted with what Jeff did. I don't care who you are or what you think yourself to be you do not have the right to out somthing that is very personal to someone like that. Zeke being transgendered had NOTHING to do with the game and everything to do with him as a person. Jeff could've destroyed Zeke's life right then and there because contrary to what some people beliece American Society still aren't accepting of LGBT people AS A WHOLE. Especially transgendered people. How can Jeff sit here and assume people knew? You do not assume when it comes to LGBT situations like this. And this is epsecially embarrissing for Jeff as he claims that he's an advocate for this community. I'm sure he's known or seen the hate and discrmination these people go through that can really destroy a person. People in Zeke's life could've seen this and really hurt him now. Now it seems that that may not be the case and that's awesome but still. It's not for anyone else to tell excpet the trans person themselves. And what really ****** me off is how Jeff's logic..Like first he tried to say he did it to show how Zeke was being deciteful....Hiding the fact that you're transgender is not a matter of being decietful or fake. It's a matter of protection. Why didn't he just use the fact that He and Ozzy were in an alliance and leave it at that? And then Jeff starts to say oh well he was out and proud about it...THEN WHY YOU PUT HIM ON BLAST LIKE THAT! It was really obvious he know he ****** up and tried to save face but the damage was done and he couldn't fix it.
I don't think Jeff is a bad person. But he ****** up here and for someone who may or may not be gay and is an allie for the LGBT community he should've known better no matter what he thought in his mind.
mariochristopher__ wrote:I thought about that tooo with the whole CBS didn'g have to show that but then how would they have painted Varner's departure then..?
they could of edited it da same way they edited alecias boot from bvbvb2
what happened with that?
on bvbvb2 the tribe knew for fact that they were voting out alecia so right after the immunity challenge they came to a consensus to send her home **** like they didnt even go to TC.
if zeke was to say he didnt want them to air it then they wouldve only shown jeff asking if they needed to vote & everyone saying no & then vermin gettin his torch snuffed ****
Umm i'm pretty sure they did. I remember Jeff asking them if they even need to go to TC and everyone said no except Alecia because she still wanted to fight.
Another time they didn't go to TC was with Brandon Hantz when he became explosive on FvF2.
Umm i'm pretty sure they did. I remember Jeff asking them if they even need to go to TC and everyone said no except Alecia because she still wanted to fight. Another time they didn't go to TC was with Brandon Hantz when he became explosive on FvF2.
I'm still in such shock. It never crossed my mind that Zeke was trans, but also I really couldn't believe Varner would do that. How would he have known?
Earlier on in the season another contestant went to the bathroom at the same time as Zeke or something and saw that he had a ******. This happened way before Varner was on a tribe with Zeke so obviously people had been gossiping about it, that is why no one was shocked that Zeke was trans they were just shocked that Jeff "outed" him.
I mean anyone close to Zeke has to know he went from a girl to a dude. Beings trans is not some kind of huge underwrap secret. And I completely get Varner's logic, trans is latest hot topic right now so it makes sense that CBS would have promoted Zeke as the first trans and it being a big storyline on season 33. If I was Varner I would have believed it was out to the public and that Zeke was using it in his back pocket for when he was about to be voted out or at final tribe. People are way overreacting towards Varner. Zeke supposedly has spoken with Varner many times and been completely cool with him till the day before the episode aired and then totally decided to turn on Varner and really make the guy look bad to the media. The dude has been suicidal over it no need to make it worse for him. Zeke loves the attention and being the heroic victim.
I thought about that tooo with the whole CBS didn'g have to show that but then how would they have painted Varner's departure then..?
WHAT HAPPENED! It's on the news page on twitter!
Varner outed Zeke as a transgender at tribal council as if him keeping that a secret made him deceitful. It was a really uncomfortable moment but it made for a beautiful moment afterwards
they could of edited it da same way they edited alecias boot from bvbvb2
#TeamVarner
what happened with that?
I have a feeling that Zeke was fine with it. He revealed it online before the episode was even released so he mustve atleast gotten told what was going to be shown.
That was the most uncomfortable tribal council in survivor history. Like this was unneeded and the worst part is he might have actually got some people to switch if he didn't.
Andrea and Sarah were ****** at zeke, but probably not anymore now. That brought them closer together and now fans see zeke as a hero. Smh varner just erased people's memories of zeke's shady game play.
Wow, I just watched the clip and am truly disgusted. I'm glad everyone in the tribal council came to his defense and sent Varner packing.
I don't even want to watch this episode after reading what happened. Sounds to uncomfortable to watch.
it's extremely uncomfortable. I'd skip it.
I really really really hate varner and really hate defending him BUT Jeff said he knew right away after seeing zeke and assumed that was the reason he was a game changer, since nobody there besides michela has ever seen zeke before. This is a logical thing to think, that CBS would be all about having the first trans contestant and how that would make him a game changer. Jeff knew nothing about zeke's previous season and saw him acting shifty so he put two and two together that he was hiding it from the tribe as way to be sneaky. Was it the right move, **** no it was stupid and horrible. But Jeff knows that, he immediately was crushed to find out zeke hasn't told anyone. The whole painting varner as evil is just not true. He ****** up big time, but he isn't a terrible person.
Yeah definitely dont watch if you're even a little uncomfortable it's extremely awful.
Zeke in his own words about it http://ow.ly/RNls30aOVoZ
Jeff Probst thought http://ow.ly/Iza530aOOvO
IMG_2482.PNG
I just watched that tribal and I gotta say I'm pretty disgusted with what Jeff did. I don't care who you are or what you think yourself to be you do not have the right to out somthing that is very personal to someone like that. Zeke being transgendered had NOTHING to do with the game and everything to do with him as a person. Jeff could've destroyed Zeke's life right then and there because contrary to what some people beliece American Society still aren't accepting of LGBT people AS A WHOLE. Especially transgendered people. How can Jeff sit here and assume people knew? You do not assume when it comes to LGBT situations like this. And this is epsecially embarrissing for Jeff as he claims that he's an advocate for this community. I'm sure he's known or seen the hate and discrmination these people go through that can really destroy a person. People in Zeke's life could've seen this and really hurt him now. Now it seems that that may not be the case and that's awesome but still. It's not for anyone else to tell excpet the trans person themselves. And what really ****** me off is how Jeff's logic..Like first he tried to say he did it to show how Zeke was being deciteful....Hiding the fact that you're transgender is not a matter of being decietful or fake. It's a matter of protection. Why didn't he just use the fact that He and Ozzy were in an alliance and leave it at that? And then Jeff starts to say oh well he was out and proud about it...THEN WHY YOU PUT HIM ON BLAST LIKE THAT! It was really obvious he know he ****** up and tried to save face but the damage was done and he couldn't fix it.
I don't think Jeff is a bad person. But he ****** up here and for someone who may or may not be gay and is an allie for the LGBT community he should've known better no matter what he thought in his mind.
on bvbvb2 the tribe knew for fact that they were voting out alecia so right after the immunity challenge they came to a consensus to send her home **** like they didnt even go to TC.
if zeke was to say he didnt want them to air it then they wouldve only shown jeff asking if they needed to vote & everyone saying no & then vermin gettin his torch snuffed ****
Umm i'm pretty sure they did. I remember Jeff asking them if they even need to go to TC and everyone said no except Alecia because she still wanted to fight.
Another time they didn't go to TC was with Brandon Hantz when he became explosive on FvF2.
thats what I thought too lol
Earlier on in the season another contestant went to the bathroom at the same time as Zeke or something and saw that he had a ******. This happened way before Varner was on a tribe with Zeke so obviously people had been gossiping about it, that is why no one was shocked that Zeke was trans they were just shocked that Jeff "outed" him.
I mean anyone close to Zeke has to know he went from a girl to a dude. Beings trans is not some kind of huge underwrap secret. And I completely get Varner's logic, trans is latest hot topic right now so it makes sense that CBS would have promoted Zeke as the first trans and it being a big storyline on season 33. If I was Varner I would have believed it was out to the public and that Zeke was using it in his back pocket for when he was about to be voted out or at final tribe. People are way overreacting towards Varner. Zeke supposedly has spoken with Varner many times and been completely cool with him till the day before the episode aired and then totally decided to turn on Varner and really make the guy look bad to the media. The dude has been suicidal over it no need to make it worse for him. Zeke loves the attention and being the heroic victim.
Pages