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I wish Samoa Joe got on Smackdown though. He'd fit there more IMO.

Hopefully SD gets Nakamura when he gets called up.

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Well that's false but even if it was true Naomi's been doing this for seven years and she's still shitty while Godmella's been doing it for three and she's a star in the making. Naomi's also bland AF. She was only midly entertaining as a heel. Now all she is is a low-budget gogo dancer. Carmella on the other hand is ten times more entertaining as a heel than Naomi ever was or will be.  Just because Naomi springboards and flips does not make her the most athletic. That title goes to the True Queen Charlotte and you also got Ember Moon in NXT (tho she's boring too).

The only thing Carmella is good on is the mic and that's only with her heel work because her debut on Smackdown when all the women came out was tragic and she was the only one the crowd didn't react to. As for wrestling let's not pretend Nikki didn't carry Carmella through all her matches because the girl is greener than the gr*** in my front yard.

Carmella had to transition from NXT to the main roster so not everybody knew her when she debuted since not everyone watches it. Also not all gimmicks that work in NXT work on the main roster. Look at the Vaudevillians and Tyler Breeze for example. So her not getting reactions as a face at first is understandable and justifiable. I've never said Carmella was amazing in ring. I know she isn't. I think she's better than Naomi but not by much but that's pretty embar***ing for a veteran like Naomi. Carmella may be green but she's improving unlike Naomi who's been a flop for forever now. Some of her moves don't even connect cause she's too fast and reckless in the ring, that kick thing she does is the absolute worst, and her shaking on the ropes when attempts to springboard is hilariously bad. Also she uses her *** for her finisher like ***** whaaaatt?? She really only looks good in tag matches for the hot tag.

I actually think Samoa Joe fits more in RAW. first we RAW is already struggling so his surprise appearance actually made sense. A lot of people expected him to debut in the Royal Rumble but he came on RAW instead in which I think that is a nice surprise. 

Now one thing they need to do is make sure Samoa Joe doesn't just become Triple H's lackey. I think a fued between Joe and Reigns and maybe Strowman would be decent. Or switch out Strowman with Rollins. 

raw actually needs samoa joe due to it being 3 hrs. besides, raw legitmately has the same matches for 3+ months going on.

how many times have we seen some sort of enzo/cass vs rusev/jinder 

Carmella had to transition from NXT to the main roster so not everybody knew her when she debuted since not everyone watches it. Also not all gimmicks that work in NXT work on the main roster. Look at the Vaudevillians and Tyler Breeze for example. So her not getting reactions as a face at first is understandable and justifiable. I've never said Carmella was amazing in ring. I know she isn't. I think she's better than Naomi but not by much but that's pretty embar***ing for a veteran like Naomi. Carmella may be green but she's improving unlike Naomi who's been a flop for forever now. Some of her moves don't even connect cause she's too fast and reckless in the ring, that kick thing she does is the absolute worst, and her shaking on the ropes when attempts to springboard is hilariously bad. Also she uses her *** for her finisher like ***** whaaaatt?? She really only looks good in tag matches for the hot tag.

The NXT excuse is a lousy one since everyone else who debut from NXT around the time that she did got reactions except her and also explain the people who made their debut after her and still got pops. People watch NXT they just wasn't checking for Carmella. Carmella is only good on the mic as a heel and I'll admit Naomi in my opinion did better on the mic as a heel too. However Naomi is a better wrestler than Naomi and I don't know many people who would actually argue with me about that statement including he women who have worked with her like Sasha Banks who said it herself that Naomi deserved to be the first Smackdown Women's Champion. NXT is not a excuse for Carmella to be green when you can watch Naomi in her FCW days who was still decent. As for moves not connecting how about talking to Carmella about actually knowing how to sell the moves. Go back and look at her many matches with Nikki where she flopped like the time Raw invaded Smackdown where Nikki did a kick from the ropes and Carmella was falling before she was even hit. 

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Carmella had to transition from NXT to the main roster so not everybody knew her when she debuted since not everyone watches it. Also not all gimmicks that work in NXT work on the main roster. Look at the Vaudevillians and Tyler Breeze for example. So her not getting reactions as a face at first is understandable and justifiable. I've never said Carmella was amazing in ring. I know she isn't. I think she's better than Naomi but not by much but that's pretty embar***ing for a veteran like Naomi. Carmella may be green but she's improving unlike Naomi who's been a flop for forever now. Some of her moves don't even connect cause she's too fast and reckless in the ring, that kick thing she does is the absolute worst, and her shaking on the ropes when attempts to springboard is hilariously bad. Also she uses her *** for her finisher like ***** whaaaatt?? She really only looks good in tag matches for the hot tag.

The NXT excuse is a lousy one since everyone else who debut from NXT around the time that she did got reactions except her and also explain the people who made their debut after her and still got pops. People watch NXT they just wasn't checking for Carmella. Carmella is only good on the mic as a heel and I'll admit Naomi in my opinion did better on the mic as a heel too. However Naomi is a better wrestler than Naomi and I don't know many people who would actually argue with me about that statement including he women who have worked with her like Sasha Banks who said it herself that Naomi deserved to be the first Smackdown Women's Champion. NXT is not a excuse for Carmella to be green when you can watch Naomi in her FCW days who was still decent. As for moves not connecting how about talking to Carmella about actually knowing how to sell the moves. Go back and look at her many matches with Nikki where she flopped like the time Raw invaded Smackdown where Nikki did a kick from the ropes and Carmella was falling before she was even hit. 

Carmella got an initial pop on her debut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtB3_05elRs (one louder than Naomi might I add) but after that is when the crowd became more silent. Her Enzo/C*** gimmick just didn't connect with the crowd. When she was a face, most of the time she was doing that awful fake NY accent so that automatically brought her promos down. When she wasn't doing it, she was just fine on the mic. Sasha may have said Naomi deserved it but that doesn't mean she's a better wrestler. If Sasha said Eva Marie, Dana Brooke, or Rosa Mendes deserve to be the first women's champion does that make any of them a better wrestler? No. I don't want to make myself suffer and watch Naomi's attempt at wrestling. I'm sure all of Carmella's matches in NXT are better than Naomi's in FCW. I'll admit it Carmella needs work but even though her wrestling isn't top notch she still is able to keep me invested in her matches with her character and mannerisms unlike no charisma Naomi.

Like only a true goddess can, Carmella thrashed that jobber with her weave falling out but still looking better than the rest. #Iconic

Does anyone know what happened to Eva Marie? Is she Injured, Contract Expired or....

Does anyone know what happened to Eva Marie? Is she Injured, Contract Expired or....

I think she's doing movie shit, modeling, or working on her business AKA not being a wrestler. They should just get rid of her. Obviously she doesn't give a shit about wrestling and she got the publicity she wanted to go out and do other shit. Mandy Rose in NXT is doing her gimmick much better and is already a better wrestler.

vince/kevin dunn love her, so she will be around. those 2 are ******* terrible i wish both of them had 0 say in creative

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Does anyone know what happened to Eva Marie? Is she Injured, Contract Expired or....

I think she's doing movie shit, modeling, or working on her business AKA not being a wrestler. They should just get rid of her. Obviously she doesn't give a shit about wrestling and she got the publicity she wanted to go out and do other shit. Mandy Rose in NXT is doing her gimmick much better and is already a better wrestler.

On top of that she's terrible in the ring so no need to have her around.

Does anyone know what happened to Eva Marie? Is she Injured, Contract Expired or....

She originally got suspended for 30 days and then she ended up doing two movies right after that. Right now she's waiting for them to let her return. My guess is that they might have her be added to the storyline with James Ellsworth and Carmella because right now I don't see the purpose in those two.

raw actually needs samoa joe due to it being 3 hrs. besides, raw legitmately has the same matches for 3+ months going on.how many times have we seen some sort of enzo/cass vs rusev/jinder 

I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

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I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

But is Dana even with her anymore? Like I haven't seen her come out with Charlotte in what feels like forever. Also Dana is horrible and I doubt the crowd would get behind her. This is Raw's problem. They booked their women in a repetitive corner all so Charlotte could be the top ***** with this PPV record and title reigns.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

But is Dana even with her anymore? Like I haven't seen her come out with Charlotte in what feels like forever. Also Dana is horrible and I doubt the crowd would get behind her. This is Raw's problem. They booked their women in a repetitive corner all so Charlotte could be the top ***** with this PPV record and title reigns.

I feel like with Dana it's on and off with that...Like one week she's with her and another she's not. They're not consistent with that. But I do agree with you. When you look at it they've booked themelves in a corner with the Raw women. They really need more people. They're apparently doing a Women's torunament later this year so that'll bring in some new people. and then they can also call up Auska from NXT too.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

But is Dana even with her anymore? Like I haven't seen her come out with Charlotte in what feels like forever. Also Dana is horrible and I doubt the crowd would get behind her. This is Raw's problem. They booked their women in a repetitive corner all so Charlotte could be the top ***** with this PPV record and title reigns.

I feel like with Dana it's on and off with that...Like one week she's with her and another she's not. They're not consistent with that. But I do agree with you. When you look at it they've booked themelves in a corner with the Raw women. They really need more people. They're apparently doing a Women's torunament later this year so that'll bring in some new people. and then they can also call up Auska from NXT too.

That's great and all but it means nothing if Vince won't lose his raging ******** for Charlotte.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

But is Dana even with her anymore? Like I haven't seen her come out with Charlotte in what feels like forever. Also Dana is horrible and I doubt the crowd would get behind her. This is Raw's problem. They booked their women in a repetitive corner all so Charlotte could be the top ***** with this PPV record and title reigns.

I feel like with Dana it's on and off with that...Like one week she's with her and another she's not. They're not consistent with that. But I do agree with you. When you look at it they've booked themelves in a corner with the Raw women. They really need more people. They're apparently doing a Women's torunament later this year so that'll bring in some new people. and then they can also call up Auska from NXT too.

That's great and all but it means nothing if Vince won't lose his raging ******** for Charlotte.

True. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another reign of terror. If that's the case then Smackdown women's divsion is looking mighty nice(even though it did before).

Are Nattie or Trinity champions? I do not watch this but I watch total divas and like them. Sorry if I do not know, I have no clue how any of this wwe stuff works other than its scripted.

Are Nattie or Trinity champions? I do not watch this but I watch total divas and like them. Sorry if I do not know, I have no clue how any of this wwe stuff works other than its scripted.

No. Neither of them are champions.

I have no Idea who trinity is lol.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

But is Dana even with her anymore? Like I haven't seen her come out with Charlotte in what feels like forever. Also Dana is horrible and I doubt the crowd would get behind her. This is Raw's problem. They booked their women in a repetitive corner all so Charlotte could be the top ***** with this PPV record and title reigns.

I feel like with Dana it's on and off with that...Like one week she's with her and another she's not. They're not consistent with that. But I do agree with you. When you look at it they've booked themelves in a corner with the Raw women. They really need more people. They're apparently doing a Women's torunament later this year so that'll bring in some new people. and then they can also call up Auska from NXT too.

That's great and all but it means nothing if Vince won't lose his raging ******** for Charlotte.

True. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another reign of terror. If that's the case then Smackdown women's divsion is looking mighty nice(even though it did before).

Tbh Smackdown has it's flaws too. Not as bad as Raw but still. The Nattie/Nikki feud is a complete copy of the Nikki/God feud and the Alexa/Becky feud lasted forever and was repetitive like the Sasha/Char feud. The Mickie/Becky feud is kinda weird since Mickie is mad that everything she done was  basically erased even though Becky never said anything about. Sasha/Charlotte did. 

Trinity is Naomi's real name 

Are Nattie or Trinity champions? I do not watch this but I watch total divas and like them. Sorry if I do not know, I have no clue how any of this wwe stuff works other than its scripted.

Nattie was champ only once and that was years ago. Naomi (Trinity) has never been champ and hopefully it stays that way. She's trash at wrestling.

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BIANCA wrote:I'm gonna be so shitty if Bayley wins next week and Charlotte gets it back at the next PPV.

That's probably what's going to happen too.

Just have Charlotte drop the title for good. Obviously they want to go the whole 16 reigns thing which is stupid as **** but they can spread it out. It doesn't have to be back to back to back every ******* time. Let the other girls shine.

Agreed. They can have Bayley win next week and then FINALLY bring in Emma to feud with her for the title. It'll get Charolette out of the title picture for a change. She could fued with Nia Jax in the meantime.

The only issue with that is Char and Nia are both heels.  Turning Nia face would be the dumbest shit ever and face Charlotte was a massive flop & she's pretty established as heel now. And who the hell wants to see a heel vs heel feud?

Oh yeah that's right..well then just have Sasha and Nia continue to fued and have Charolette do something else. Maybe have Dana get tired of her shit and she deals with her for a bit.

But is Dana even with her anymore? Like I haven't seen her come out with Charlotte in what feels like forever. Also Dana is horrible and I doubt the crowd would get behind her. This is Raw's problem. They booked their women in a repetitive corner all so Charlotte could be the top ***** with this PPV record and title reigns.

I feel like with Dana it's on and off with that...Like one week she's with her and another she's not. They're not consistent with that. But I do agree with you. When you look at it they've booked themelves in a corner with the Raw women. They really need more people. They're apparently doing a Women's torunament later this year so that'll bring in some new people. and then they can also call up Auska from NXT too.

That's great and all but it means nothing if Vince won't lose his raging ******** for Charlotte.

True. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another reign of terror. If that's the case then Smackdown women's divsion is looking mighty nice(even though it did before).

Tbh Smackdown has it's flaws too. Not as bad as Raw but still. The Nattie/Nikki feud is a complete copy of the Nikki/God feud and the Alexa/Becky feud lasted forever and was repetitive like the Sasha/Char feud. The Mickie/Becky feud is kinda weird since Mickie is mad that everything she done was  basically erased even though Becky never said anything about. Sasha/Charlotte did. 

Oh true. But compared to Raw it's much better IMO.

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Are Nattie or Trinity champions? I do not watch this but I watch total divas and like them. Sorry if I do not know, I have no clue how any of this wwe stuff works other than its scripted.

Nattie was champ only once and that was years ago. Naomi (Trinity) has never been champ and hopefully it stays that way. She's trash at wrestling.

Natalya was champion? Shit. I never knew that lol.

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