Tony literally said the same things to Kass that Russell said to Parvati. ******* Verbatim.He was a good strategic player, but the way he treated people is undeserving of a win. Kass and even Woo would have been a better winner.
its here, like nobody knows for sure but lot of people thought that ****
but i kinda saw it in episodes that woo was not really liked, he seems really quiet and not socialable. In that episode where him, Kass and Spencer went to visit children, Kass said it was first time she actually noticed Woo... like **** what day it was yes, editing made him look like really nice guy who is in alliance with Tony, but I actually think Tony was just his only friend
A good winner doesn't have to rely on super idols, cockiness, and scare tactics.
your right a good winner relies on sympathy right?
Thats not what I said, but he did not have to act so cocky and bully/threaten people into doing what he wanted.
And a good winner wouldn't have to base his entire strategy around having idols. If he didn't have those idols, he would've been voted out easily. That's a flaw in his game IMO. He will be dealt with swiftly on GC. Mark my words. Russell got away with it twice because on HvV, the other castaways didn't see how he played on Samoa. Remember what happened to him on RI? Tony will be left crying, much like his twin brother Russell.
I do understand why he won over Woo, but if he had been sitting next to anyone else, he probably loses. Definitely not top tier in my book.
Klounsnax2.0 wrote:A good winner doesn't have to rely on super idols, cockiness, and scare tactics.
your right a good winner relies on sympathy right?
Thats not what I said, but he did not have to act so cocky and bully/threaten people into doing what he wanted. And a good winner wouldn't have to base his entire strategy around having idols. If he didn't have those idols, he would've been voted out easily. That's a flaw in his game IMO. He will be dealt with swiftly on GC. Mark my words. Russell got away with it twice because on HvV, the other castaways didn't see how he played on Samoa. Remember what happened to him on RI? Tony will be left crying, much like his twin brother Russell.I do understand why he won over Woo, but if he had been sitting next to anyone else, he probably loses. Definitely not top tier in my book.
I'm rewatching Micronesia and I completely forgot about Eliza and Jason talking about the idol being fake. She keeps saying "It's a ******* stick" and at the end Jason just goes "Well, sucks". Then she tries using it at TC. Survivor really does have amazing moments every season.
Klounsnax2.0 wrote:A good winner doesn't have to rely on super idols, cockiness, and scare tactics.
your right a good winner relies on sympathy right?
Thats not what I said, but he did not have to act so cocky and bully/threaten people into doing what he wanted. And a good winner wouldn't have to base his entire strategy around having idols. If he didn't have those idols, he would've been voted out easily. That's a flaw in his game IMO. He will be dealt with swiftly on GC. Mark my words. Russell got away with it twice because on HvV, the other castaways didn't see how he played on Samoa. Remember what happened to him on RI? Tony will be left crying, much like his twin brother Russell.I do understand why he won over Woo, but if he had been sitting next to anyone else, he probably loses. Definitely not top tier in my book.
"if he didn't have those idols"....
this criticism doesn't work because of... wait for it.... RUSSELL.... regardless of how much you dislike that pompous troll, he literally influenced the entire game of Survivor Post-HvV. He found idols without clues and it became a thing where you're an idiot if you don't look, it's just a facet of the game.
Tony isn't a top 5 winner though lol.... close, but not quite.
Lmaoo wait wut, someone have went on and used wrong thing for idol?
Oh yes, there's been so many fake idols. It's hard to explain how it happens. It's basically a trick. If I'm not mistaken, I think the first fake idol was made by Yau-Man in Cook Islands? I'm prolly wrong on that. But FvF is the most popular. Watch that, it's hilarious!
I get if u play mind games to trick others with fake ones but have anyone thought they had idol but it was actually wrong thing and tried to use it and they got eliminated or something?
Lmaoo wait wut, someone have went on and used wrong thing for idol?
Oh yes, there's been so many fake idols. It's hard to explain how it happens. It's basically a trick. If I'm not mistaken, I think the first fake idol was made by Yau-Man in Cook Islands? I'm prolly wrong on that. But FvF is the most popular. Watch that, it's hilarious!
Yeah definitely watch it. Hilarious. Jay's attempt from 33 is definitely a top one too. And of course, queen Kelley Wentworth made a nice fake as well, even though Keith ruined that.
I get if u play mind games to trick others with fake ones but have anyone thought they had idol but it was actually wrong thing and tried to use it and they got eliminated or something?
Thats what happened on Micronesia and also last season with Jay. On Micronesia, Ozzy found the real idol, created a fake one as bait, and Jason found it. Jason gave it to Eliza to use at TC but she knew it was fake. They still tried using it just in case, but obviously it didn't work. Eliza was voted off that night.
And on M vs. GX, Jay found a fake idol made by David, used it at TC, and Jeff threw it in the fire and he was voted off.
Also happened on China and Gabon. I think Gabon's process is hilarious because numerous people were in on it.
Tony is nothing like Russell he actually had bonds with people. Tony is so highly rated by fans because he's flashy and in your face. Without Trish, Tony would have never had power. That's why I don't put Tony as a top winner because unlike someone like Kim or Todd, Trish wasn't a sidekick who was just along for the ride, but the one who was actually making the moves. I've said it before, without Trish talking to Kass jefra goes home, Tony probably gets taken out soon after since he didn't win any immunity challenges.
Tony is so highly rated by fans because he's flashy and in your face. Without Trish, Tony would have never had power. That's why I don't put Tony as a top winner because unlike someone like Kim or Todd, Trish wasn't a sidekick who was just along for the ride, but the one who was actually making the moves. I've said it before, without Trish talking to Kass jefra goes home, Tony probably gets taken out soon after since he didn't win any immunity challenges.
Yes. This.
But, there were at least TWO occasions where I had Russell flashbacks. One was when Tony tried to tell Person A (I can't remember who was involved now. My memory is GREAT) that Person B was coming after them to try to get Person B voted out, and then got super ****** and berated Person A when Persons A&B compared notes. Situation 2: He completely lost his shit on Kass when she said she was against him and he told her if she comes after him she's going home next. Both of these situations were almost verbatim of something Russell said. The resemblance in gameplay here is uncanny and neither was a deserving winner. I believe Tony only won because it was a F2 and he was there with Weasel Woo. The jury had to pick the better of two evils here.
Cagayan was your first and that was my last
Second Chances was lit
Tony literally said the same things to Kass that Russell said to Parvati. ******* Verbatim.
He was a good strategic player, but the way he treated people is undeserving of a win. Kass and even Woo would have been a better winner.
I mean, if people felt truly attacked by him they wouldn't have voted for him to win
And Woo did some stuff behind the scenes that made the jury turned off by him. He didn't get the Weasel Woo nickname for nothing.
Kass deserves nothing
your right a good winner relies on sympathy right?
Yeah Kloun, the jury hated Woo. He was known as Woo the weasel. I forget what he did, but there's an article somewhere.
wouldnt woo talk about making a move against tony and never do it?
http://insidesurvivor.com/the-mystery-of-weasel-woo-2897
its here, like nobody knows for sure but lot of people thought that ****
but i kinda saw it in episodes that woo was not really liked, he seems really quiet and not socialable. In that episode where him, Kass and Spencer went to visit children, Kass said it was first time she actually noticed Woo... like **** what day it was
yes, editing made him look like really nice guy who is in alliance with Tony, but I actually think Tony was just his only friend
Tony and Kass both suck.
Thats not what I said, but he did not have to act so cocky and bully/threaten people into doing what he wanted.
And a good winner wouldn't have to base his entire strategy around having idols. If he didn't have those idols, he would've been voted out easily. That's a flaw in his game IMO. He will be dealt with swiftly on GC. Mark my words. Russell got away with it twice because on HvV, the other castaways didn't see how he played on Samoa. Remember what happened to him on RI? Tony will be left crying, much like his twin brother Russell.
I do understand why he won over Woo, but if he had been sitting next to anyone else, he probably loses. Definitely not top tier in my book.
Well that's my rant.
cant wait til tony makes it to the merge
No.
I'm rewatching Micronesia and I completely forgot about Eliza and Jason talking about the idol being fake. She keeps saying "It's a ******* stick" and at the end Jason just goes "Well, sucks". Then she tries using it at TC. Survivor really does have amazing moments every season.
"if he didn't have those idols"....
this criticism doesn't work because of... wait for it.... RUSSELL.... regardless of how much you dislike that pompous troll, he literally influenced the entire game of Survivor Post-HvV. He found idols without clues and it became a thing where you're an idiot if you don't look, it's just a facet of the game.
Tony isn't a top 5 winner though lol.... close, but not quite.
Lmaoo wait wut, someone have went on and used wrong thing for idol?
Oh yes, there's been so many fake idols. It's hard to explain how it happens. It's basically a trick. If I'm not mistaken, I think the first fake idol was made by Yau-Man in Cook Islands? I'm prolly wrong on that. But FvF is the most popular. Watch that, it's hilarious!
I get if u play mind games to trick others with fake ones but have anyone thought they had idol but it was actually wrong thing and tried to use it and they got eliminated or something?
Yeah definitely watch it. Hilarious. Jay's attempt from 33 is definitely a top one too. And of course, queen Kelley Wentworth made a nice fake as well, even though Keith ruined that.
Thats what happened on Micronesia and also last season with Jay. On Micronesia, Ozzy found the real idol, created a fake one as bait, and Jason found it. Jason gave it to Eliza to use at TC but she knew it was fake. They still tried using it just in case, but obviously it didn't work. Eliza was voted off that night.
And on M vs. GX, Jay found a fake idol made by David, used it at TC, and Jeff threw it in the fire and he was voted off.
Also happened on China and Gabon. I think Gabon's process is hilarious because numerous people were in on it.
The fake idol in Gabon was so cruel but so hilarious at the same time! Lol. That whole tribal was good!
Ok i watched Gabon one and it was so sad
Tony is nothing like Russell he actually had bonds with people. Tony is so highly rated by fans because he's flashy and in your face. Without Trish, Tony would have never had power. That's why I don't put Tony as a top winner because unlike someone like Kim or Todd, Trish wasn't a sidekick who was just along for the ride, but the one who was actually making the moves. I've said it before, without Trish talking to Kass jefra goes home, Tony probably gets taken out soon after since he didn't win any immunity challenges.
Yes. This.
But, there were at least TWO occasions where I had Russell flashbacks. One was when Tony tried to tell Person A (I can't remember who was involved now. My memory is GREAT) that Person B was coming after them to try to get Person B voted out, and then got super ****** and berated Person A when Persons A&B compared notes. Situation 2: He completely lost his shit on Kass when she said she was against him and he told her if she comes after him she's going home next. Both of these situations were almost verbatim of something Russell said. The resemblance in gameplay here is uncanny and neither was a deserving winner. I believe Tony only won because it was a F2 and he was there with Weasel Woo. The jury had to pick the better of two evils here.
are reuinions worth watching?
Only for the winner announcement and the sneak peek of the following season.
they used to be. But they have been terrible recently.
WHAT!? You're telling me a whole segment on Sai and her animal loving charity isn't the bestest?
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