Despite not watching Rivals 3 I have a very hard time believing Tony is as bad as CT or The Miz when drunk. Maybe that was so long ago people forget. CT punched two people...and tried to murder one of them
also remember he fought his own brother on Bloodlines.
i did watch Inferno 1 but i can't recall. what did Miz exactly do when he was drunk? (hopefully it's more potent than the time he pulled Brad's underwear)
You need to rewatch the Kendal-Leah elimination...I have no idea how anyone that watched that season wouldn't remember it clearly
If you haven't watched Seasons watch his birthday episode when he took his foot came off the block of ice
i did watch Inferno 1 but i can't recall. what did Miz exactly do when he was drunk? (hopefully it's more potent than the time he pulled Brad's underwear)
You need to rewatch the Kendal-Leah elimination...I have no idea how anyone that watched that season wouldn't remember it clearlyIf you haven't watched Seasons watch his birthday episode when he took his foot came off the block of ice
chillax. i do recall miz getting mad at Kendall, Leah and CT going at it, a guy named David (i think) jumping into a pit with underwear on. but i really don't remember the Miz doing anything that puts him above Tony. if Inferno 1 isn't readily available to watch for free then it would be a great thing if you could tell us specifically what Miz said (or did) to Kendall.
Katie's the same drunk and sober. I don't think she was even drinking when she lost her mind on VeronicaThe Tony thing with his brother wasn't anything. It was just stupid and far from memorable.
arent all drunken fights stupid?!! if you have everyone on you saying you hve an alcoholic problem than i do believe Tony is still a candidate. but i agree with you on Katie. that's also why i didn't put Camila above Tonya because Camila is the same sober as she is drunk.
From what I know, Tony argued with fellow alcoholic Camila twice; the first time wasting edible food by slamming it down on the counter & the 2nd time he got in her face, backed her into a corner & they both had to be held back/calmed down by everybody in the house. Then apparently remembered none of it (although I never buy this excuse with people).
I would also say Tony is worse; the most The Miz did was rage by himself + heckle Kendal.
Tony not drunk is a player who can be a ****** at times but relatively someone who just wants to have a good time.
Tony drunk is a person who has no control over his actions, gets in people's faces, backs them into a corner, punched inanimate objects, shouts, etc.
So I disagree with that comment that he's the same sober and drunk.
And you can actually spare us these empty claims by being specific on what Miz did on Seasons. Because even though Miz's argument with Kendall is memorable it doesn't compare to Tony.
From what I know, Tony argued with fellow alcoholic Camila twice; the first time wasting edible food by slamming it down on the counter & the 2nd time he got in her face, backed her into a corner & they both had to be held back/calmed down by everybody in the house. Then apparently remembered none of it (although I never buy this excuse with people).I would also say Tony is worse; the most The Miz did was rage by himself + heckle Kendal.
Don't forget Tony also aggressively kicked a trash can at Camila in their second argument.
Trying to discuss stuff like this with people that are obvious to the past is impossible. Apparently everyone is ignoring the CT argument because they know Tony isn't close to that. The fact anyone that claims to be a fan of this show doesn't know about The Miz's epic meltdown on Seasons proves just how out of touch people are with why this show now sucks compared to what it used to me. Tony slammed edible food down on a table--the word is going to end. That's about of par with Danny Jamieson on Fresh Meat II. Then a drunk Tony got in a fight with a drunk Camila. I wonder if that was about Camila more than it was Tony. I don't think Tony has control over his emotions drunk or sober based on his time on Bloodlines. I don't recall if he's on the new season but hopefully he is so I can see if he's truly a bad drunk or just an waste of a human. So far I'm going with just an awful human. Same reason Laurel isn't the worst drunk--because she's a disaster either way
Trying to discuss stuff like this with people that are obvious to the past is impossible. Apparently everyone is ignoring the CT argument because they know Tony isn't close to that. The fact anyone that claims to be a fan of this show doesn't know about The Miz's epic meltdown on Seasons proves just how out of touch people are with why this show now sucks compared to what it used to me. Tony slammed edible food down on a table--the word is going to end. That's about of par with Danny Jamieson on Fresh Meat II. Then a drunk Tony got in a fight with a drunk Camila. I wonder if that was about Camila more than it was Tony. I don't think Tony has control over his emotions drunk or sober based on his time on Bloodlines. I don't recall if he's on the new season but hopefully he is so I can see if he's truly a bad drunk or just an waste of a human. So far I'm going with just an awful human. Same reason Laurel isn't the worst drunk--because she's a disaster either way
And trying to discuss something like this with someone hasn't seen everything is impossible as well. Miz hitting himself and having a meltdown is not worse than what Tony has done. Mike never cornered anyone or put his hands on anyone..Tony has.
And I'd say CT is worse than Tony because CT has done far worse than him.
Trying to discuss stuff like this with people that are obvious to the past is impossible. Apparently everyone is ignoring the CT argument because they know Tony isn't close to that. The fact anyone that claims to be a fan of this show doesn't know about The Miz's epic meltdown on Seasons proves just how out of touch people are with why this show now sucks compared to what it used to me. Tony slammed edible food down on a table--the word is going to end. That's about of par with Danny Jamieson on Fresh Meat II. Then a drunk Tony got in a fight with a drunk Camila. I wonder if that was about Camila more than it was Tony. I don't think Tony has control over his emotions drunk or sober based on his time on Bloodlines. I don't recall if he's on the new season but hopefully he is so I can see if he's truly a bad drunk or just an waste of a human. So far I'm going with just an awful human. Same reason Laurel isn't the worst drunk--because she's a disaster either way
wtf. so what if im a new viewer?!! is it really that hard for you to say what the Miz did on Season's especially since there's no source for me to watch it? or are you that arrogant?? and in regards to CT yes i would agree CT is a worse drunk than Tony since he did try to murder Adam.
last thing: on the camila vs tony argument, camila was sober but she was fed up with tony so of course that led to a near fight.
Despite not watching Rivals 3 I have a very hard time believing Tony is as bad as CT or The Miz when drunk. Maybe that was so long ago people forget. CT punched two people...and tried to murder one of them
Tony's not worse than old CT but he is worse than old Miz. Neither one could hold their liquor I honestly don't think The Miz would've ever taken it to the level that Tony has.
Trying to discuss stuff like this with people that are obvious to the past is impossible. Apparently everyone is ignoring the CT argument because they know Tony isn't close to that. The fact anyone that claims to be a fan of this show doesn't know about The Miz's epic meltdown on Seasons proves just how out of touch people are with why this show now sucks compared to what it used to me. Tony slammed edible food down on a table--the word is going to end. That's about of par with Danny Jamieson on Fresh Meat II. Then a drunk Tony got in a fight with a drunk Camila. I wonder if that was about Camila more than it was Tony. I don't think Tony has control over his emotions drunk or sober based on his time on Bloodlines. I don't recall if he's on the new season but hopefully he is so I can see if he's truly a bad drunk or just an waste of a human. So far I'm going with just an awful human. Same reason Laurel isn't the worst drunk--because she's a disaster either way
You can't use that with me or Debut; we're the other few people on this site who've been watching the show since those days. The Miz went off by himself & did what he had to do; the women might've been scared but none of them were truly in any danger plus Emily/Elka/Holly were dramatic as hell anyway & made it seem worse than what it was.....you saw Coral wasn't phased at all by it. Tony acts a fool with people crowding around him & despite me not liking Camila & her being just as much of a ******* as he was, him getting in her face & cornering her took it to another level. I also forgot about his whole thing with Amanda & how he raged at her with their RW v.s. AYTO argument.
As far as the Inferno, while Miz/Kendal's whole thing was epic & was the catalyst for all the craziness around them, The Miz himself during that whole thing wasn't that bad compared to the drunk shit Tony has done on his two stints.
Debut Album wrote:I too would say that Tony is a worse drunk that Mike. Nothing Mike really did was that bad. Tony has assaulted one person and cornered another person.
Assaulted who? His brother? Come on now...
It's assault. He put his hands on him while he was drunk. It counts. Just because its is brother doesnt negate it.
brothers fight, it's not a big deal. If he fought someone else than it would be more serious.
For me a bad drunk is someone that does a bunch of crazy shit and then don't remember about it at all when he wakes up, basically what Tony did on Rivals 3
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also remember he fought his own brother on Bloodlines.
never forget derrick being ran over by a golf cart
You need to rewatch the Kendal-Leah elimination...I have no idea how anyone that watched that season wouldn't remember it clearly
If you haven't watched Seasons watch his birthday episode when he took his foot came off the block of ice
Katie's the same drunk and sober. I don't think she was even drinking when she lost her mind on Veronica
The Tony thing with his brother wasn't anything. It was just stupid and far from memorable.
chillax. i do recall miz getting mad at Kendall, Leah and CT going at it, a guy named David (i think) jumping into a pit with underwear on. but i really don't remember the Miz doing anything that puts him above Tony. if Inferno 1 isn't readily available to watch for free then it would be a great thing if you could tell us specifically what Miz said (or did) to Kendall.
arent all drunken fights stupid?!! if you have everyone on you saying you hve an alcoholic problem than i do believe Tony is still a candidate. but i agree with you on Katie. that's also why i didn't put Camila above Tonya because Camila is the same sober as she is drunk.
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yeah Tony is WAAAYY worse than Miz.
well so far i can't watch Seasons cuz Viacom blocked it. ********
Unless Tony did something memorable on Rivals 3 he isn't close to that nor is he close to the Seasons meltdown which was worse.
He didn't do anything on Bloodlines, Nor do i think his personality is different drunk vs. sober.
I was able to get most episodes--just not 11--of course
From what I know, Tony argued with fellow alcoholic Camila twice; the first time wasting edible food by slamming it down on the counter & the 2nd time he got in her face, backed her into a corner & they both had to be held back/calmed down by everybody in the house. Then apparently remembered none of it (although I never buy this excuse with people).
I would also say Tony is worse; the most The Miz did was rage by himself + heckle Kendal.
Tony not drunk is a player who can be a ****** at times but relatively someone who just wants to have a good time.
Tony drunk is a person who has no control over his actions, gets in people's faces, backs them into a corner, punched inanimate objects, shouts, etc.
So I disagree with that comment that he's the same sober and drunk.
And you can actually spare us these empty claims by being specific on what Miz did on Seasons. Because even though Miz's argument with Kendall is memorable it doesn't compare to Tony.
Don't forget Tony also aggressively kicked a trash can at Camila in their second argument.
I too would say that Tony is a worse drunk that Mike. Nothing Mike really did was that bad. Tony has assaulted one person and cornered another person.
Trying to discuss stuff like this with people that are obvious to the past is impossible. Apparently everyone is ignoring the CT argument because they know Tony isn't close to that. The fact anyone that claims to be a fan of this show doesn't know about The Miz's epic meltdown on Seasons proves just how out of touch people are with why this show now sucks compared to what it used to me. Tony slammed edible food down on a table--the word is going to end. That's about of par with Danny Jamieson on Fresh Meat II. Then a drunk Tony got in a fight with a drunk Camila. I wonder if that was about Camila more than it was Tony. I don't think Tony has control over his emotions drunk or sober based on his time on Bloodlines. I don't recall if he's on the new season but hopefully he is so I can see if he's truly a bad drunk or just an waste of a human. So far I'm going with just an awful human. Same reason Laurel isn't the worst drunk--because she's a disaster either way
Assaulted who? His brother? Come on now...
It's assault. He put his hands on him while he was drunk. It counts. Just because its is brother doesnt negate it.
Tonya definately, Derrick used to be pretty bad, and CT.
And trying to discuss something like this with someone hasn't seen everything is impossible as well. Miz hitting himself and having a meltdown is not worse than what Tony has done. Mike never cornered anyone or put his hands on anyone..Tony has.
And I'd say CT is worse than Tony because CT has done far worse than him.
I love your name. Okami <3.
so dustin assaulted frank on BOTS2? not the first time dustin assaulted someone then...YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
wtf. so what if im a new viewer?!! is it really that hard for you to say what the Miz did on Season's especially since there's no source for me to watch it? or are you that arrogant?? and in regards to CT yes i would agree CT is a worse drunk than Tony since he did try to murder Adam.
last thing: on the camila vs tony argument, camila was sober but she was fed up with tony so of course that led to a near fight.
so miz was hitting himself on seasons?
In the words of Kina "The Freaking Transvestite" Dean "This is a really stupid argument." <3333
Tony's not worse than old CT but he is worse than old Miz. Neither one could hold their liquor I honestly don't think The Miz would've ever taken it to the level that Tony has.
You can't use that with me or Debut; we're the other few people on this site who've been watching the show since those days. The Miz went off by himself & did what he had to do; the women might've been scared but none of them were truly in any danger plus Emily/Elka/Holly were dramatic as hell anyway & made it seem worse than what it was.....you saw Coral wasn't phased at all by it. Tony acts a fool with people crowding around him & despite me not liking Camila & her being just as much of a ******* as he was, him getting in her face & cornering her took it to another level. I also forgot about his whole thing with Amanda & how he raged at her with their RW v.s. AYTO argument.
As far as the Inferno, while Miz/Kendal's whole thing was epic & was the catalyst for all the craziness around them, The Miz himself during that whole thing wasn't that bad compared to the drunk shit Tony has done on his two stints.
Tony fighting his brother really isn't bad. That's probably the reason he wasn't sent home right away.
brothers fight, it's not a big deal. If he fought someone else than it would be more serious.
For me a bad drunk is someone that does a bunch of crazy shit and then don't remember about it at all when he wakes up, basically what Tony did on Rivals 3
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