For bloodlines (i may slightly be biased) i don't really think it was her fault. Almost all the challenges and eliminations were terrible. There were very few moments for anybody to shine athletically/competitively. I think it may have been due to the stupid format of coed and non-coed teams all mixed in.
I mean, Cara never really sucked in any of the daily missions on Bloodlines either besides the diving underwater one. To claim she hasn't improved is just nonsense. You're gonna honestly say the Cara that SMOKED the other girls in that Bloodlines mini final by running up a steep hill with a weighted bag is the same Cara as the one on Fresh Meat 2 that struggled in that exile with Darrell? ***************** not.
I still think Cara's only really good showing was on Free Agents, which given that the female competition on that show was pretty poor is unsurprising. I also think a lot of the praise thrown on her that season is based on her elimination record. Bloodlines Cara wasn't very good. I know she won but she went up against two below average teams and she barely won. It was largely because Jamie was the only one who could eat that food and the other teams couldn't figure out the canoe. If you remove those two sections she comes in last. She was bad in a number of challenges that season (Trivia, Airpockets), admittedly weighed down by Jamie in some (mini-final), and middle of the pack for the remainder. She had a nice win against Aneesa, but other than that nothing particularly impressive. Cara can be the frontrunner on a season where there are no top tier girls. Put a Laurel, Emily, Cooke, etc. on and she is a distant second best. She's had one top flight season and the rest were average at best.
Free Agents had Laurel, CM, Theresa, Aneesa, Camila, and Nia, that's a pretty stacked girls side of good competitors. So that point is void.
Putting Laurel, Emily, Cooke, Ev etc. on Bloodlines or Rivals 3 and honestly they all could have lost. Some of the eliminations have gotten so ridiculous that they easily could have had bad luck like KellyAnne with stacking blocks, ice bath with stacking blocks, or blind soccer.
I mean, Cara never really sucked in any of the daily missions on Bloodlines either besides the diving underwater one. To claim she hasn't improved is just nonsense. You're gonna honestly say the Cara that SMOKED the other girls in that Bloodlines mini final by running up a steep hill with a weighted bag is the same Cara as the one on Fresh Meat 2 that struggled in that exile with Darrell? ***************** not.
Cara did improve but it was on her 7th challenge when she got her shit together. Little to late IMO.
Ya'll are tripping. Cara did great most Challenges except Exes II. The only partner she really held back was Cooke, who imo, could have been the greatest of all time, so anyone really would have held her back. Besides, Cooke was happy to have her over Naomi lol
PS she made 3 finals before that. That's not exactly not having your shit together.
Cara did improve but it was on her 7th challenge when she got her shit together. Little to late IMO.
Ya'll are tripping. Cara did great most Challenges except Exes II. The only partner she really held back was Cooke, who imo, could have been the greatest of all time, so anyone really would have held her back. Besides, Cooke was happy to have her over Naomi lolPS she made 3 finals before that. That's not exactly not having your shit together.
She was pretty much dragged to the final because of a good partner she had. If she wasn't ******* Abram on cutthroat you can bet her *** would have been sent home. Laurel was the brains and brawn of them on rivals 1, and Cooke is a professional athlete and amazing competitor and dragged Cara along the entire time.
Cara did improve but it was on her 7th challenge when she got her shit together. Little to late IMO.
Ya'll are tripping. Cara did great most Challenges except Exes II. The only partner she really held back was Cooke, who imo, could have been the greatest of all time, so anyone really would have held her back. Besides, Cooke was happy to have her over Naomi lolPS she made 3 finals before that. That's not exactly not having your shit together.
you must have missed exes where she clearly held Abe back
HonestTea101 wrote:Cara did improve but it was on her 7th challenge when she got her shit together. Little to late IMO.
Ya'll are tripping. Cara did great most Challenges except Exes II. The only partner she really held back was Cooke, who imo, could have been the greatest of all time, so anyone really would have held her back. Besides, Cooke was happy to have her over Naomi lolPS she made 3 finals before that. That's not exactly not having your shit together.
you must have missed exes where she clearly held Abe back
You must have missed the part where I just said that.
I think some ppl are saying stuff based on their opinion and nothing else.. I mean, CM has had her downs but she's always been a decent competitor. And if she was put against someone like Laurel, Emily or Cooke, yes, theyd probably win but u gotta remember that theyre a lot heavier that her.
Cara did improve but it was on her 7th challenge when she got her shit together. Little to late IMO.
Ya'll are tripping. Cara did great most Challenges except Exes II. The only partner she really held back was Cooke, who imo, could have been the greatest of all time, so anyone really would have held her back. Besides, Cooke was happy to have her over Naomi lolPS she made 3 finals before that. That's not exactly not having your shit together.
Disagree. I think people here are underrating her performance on Cutthroat (I thought she was a little better than middle of the pack that challenge) but she was definitely not good on Fresh Meat (dragged *** in Exile), Exes and Rivals 2 (which you stated), and Rivals 1. Rivals 1 she and Laurel DQed in 5/8 challenges. They made the final by winning eliminations (pretty much her MO), one of which was a pushing contest with Jonna and Jaz. Free Agents she was good, Bloodlines she was pretty good (still had some bad performances), and Cutthroat she was fine. She gets a p*** on Seasons because of Easy. If that team had Kenny or Evan, or even Noor or Pete they would've been pretty good.
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
She did well in individual missions, yet ended up in the draw due to shitty teammates/partners. So by your logic, Jessica was one of the best girls on that season since she won several missions?
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
She did well in individual missions, yet ended up in the draw due to shitty teammates/partners. So by your logic, Jessica was one of the best girls on that season since she won several missions?
She didn't do all that well in idivitual missions. She got lucky in all of them.
Debut I agree with you with most things but you are too hard on FM and that's the only reason you don't like her/acknowledge her performance: she's FM and therefore "not worthy". lol No need to be so stubborn
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
She did well in individual missions, yet ended up in the draw due to shitty teammates/partners. So by your logic, Jessica was one of the best girls on that season since she won several missions?
There were only two individual missions that season: the sausage roll one, which she did well and came in second to Laurel and trivia which she came in in the middle. She also gave, in my opinion, the worst trivia answer of all time in which she did not know the name of the continent that she lives on. People point to Johnny's Dutch thing as the braindead moment of that challenge but I think that was WAY worse.
Cara won two challenges that season. Both were big team ones. Her win on the ropes challenge was VERY impressive given all of the DQs (Johnny, CT, etc...) but I think a lot of her hype on Free Agents comes from elimination wins. Not that she was bad at challenges...she just wasn't amazing.
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
She did well in individual missions, yet ended up in the draw due to shitty teammates/partners. So by your logic, Jessica was one of the best girls on that season since she won several missions?
There were only two individual missions that season: the sausage roll one, which she did well and came in second to Laurel and trivia which she came in in the middle. She also gave, in my opinion, the worst trivia answer of all time in which she did not know the name of the continent that she lives on. People point to Johnny's Dutch thing as the braindead moment of that challenge but I think that was WAY worse.Cara won two challenges that season. Both were big team ones. Her win on the ropes challenge was VERY impressive given all of the DQs (Johnny, CT, etc...) but I think a lot of her hype on Free Agents comes from elimination wins. Not that she was bad at challenges...she just wasn't amazing.
But the point I'm trying to make is that Cara went from being HORRENDOUS in daily missions to decent. That's an IMPROVEMENT and what we were arguing about. Cara has improved.
Debut Album wrote:I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
She did well in individual missions, yet ended up in the draw due to shitty teammates/partners. So by your logic, Jessica was one of the best girls on that season since she won several missions?
There were only two individual missions that season: the sausage roll one, which she did well and came in second to Laurel and trivia which she came in in the middle. She also gave, in my opinion, the worst trivia answer of all time in which she did not know the name of the continent that she lives on. People point to Johnny's Dutch thing as the braindead moment of that challenge but I think that was WAY worse.Cara won two challenges that season. Both were big team ones. Her win on the ropes challenge was VERY impressive given all of the DQs (Johnny, CT, etc...) but I think a lot of her hype on Free Agents comes from elimination wins. Not that she was bad at challenges...she just wasn't amazing.
But the point I'm trying to make is that Cara went from being HORRENDOUS in daily missions to decent. That's an IMPROVEMENT and what we were arguing about. Cara has improved.
Yes, Cara has improved. Unless it's swimming or a puzzle she's not a liabilty. But I do think there's merit to the point that she does look better by comparison since a lot of the better girls have moved on or dropped off in their performances (Camila, Aneesa). Was she easily the second best girl on Free Agents? Absolutely. By far. But the gap between her and Laurel was pretty big too. I think given that her life essentially revolves around training for the show, 1/8 isn't particularly impressive. Johnny gets shit on constantly for making the shows his life, but Cara's pretty much done the same thing, just to a substantially lesser degree of success in terms of wins.
Well I hate to bring it up and I am done talking about Bananas after this, but Bananas literally would have had to TRY to lose the Island, Ruins, and Rivals 3.
Debut I agree with you with most things but you are too hard on FM and that's the only reason you don't like her/acknowledge her performance: she's FM and therefore "not worthy". lol No need to be so stubborn
I am? Not really. If anything I'm hard on AYTO(Although they deserve it).
Well I hate to bring it up and I am done talking about Bananas after this, but Bananas literally would have had to TRY to lose the Island, Ruins, and Rivals 3.
And you know what's ****** up? He probably still wins those seasons too. Even if he tried his damndest to lose.
No. You're blind.
For bloodlines (i may slightly be biased) i don't really think it was her fault. Almost all the challenges and eliminations were terrible. There were very few moments for anybody to shine athletically/competitively. I think it may have been due to the stupid format of coed and non-coed teams all mixed in.
I mean, Cara never really sucked in any of the daily missions on Bloodlines either besides the diving underwater one. To claim she hasn't improved is just nonsense. You're gonna honestly say the Cara that SMOKED the other girls in that Bloodlines mini final by running up a steep hill with a weighted bag is the same Cara as the one on Fresh Meat 2 that struggled in that exile with Darrell? ***************** not.
Free Agents had Laurel, CM, Theresa, Aneesa, Camila, and Nia, that's a pretty stacked girls side of good competitors. So that point is void.
Putting Laurel, Emily, Cooke, Ev etc. on Bloodlines or Rivals 3 and honestly they all could have lost. Some of the eliminations have gotten so ridiculous that they easily could have had bad luck like KellyAnne with stacking blocks, ice bath with stacking blocks, or blind soccer.
Yes.
Cara did improve but it was on her 7th challenge when she got her shit together. Little to late IMO.
Ya'll are tripping. Cara did great most Challenges except Exes II. The only partner she really held back was Cooke, who imo, could have been the greatest of all time, so anyone really would have held her back. Besides, Cooke was happy to have her over Naomi lol
PS she made 3 finals before that. That's not exactly not having your shit together.
She was pretty much dragged to the final because of a good partner she had. If she wasn't ******* Abram on cutthroat you can bet her *** would have been sent home. Laurel was the brains and brawn of them on rivals 1, and Cooke is a professional athlete and amazing competitor and dragged Cara along the entire time.
you must have missed exes where she clearly held Abe back
You must have missed the part where I just said that.
I'm missing the part where Cara was on Exes 2. What alternate timeline was that in & can I go to it? lol
Whoops. Just Exes. Still, the point is there.
I think some ppl are saying stuff based on their opinion and nothing else.. I mean, CM has had her downs but she's always been a decent competitor. And if she was put against someone like Laurel, Emily or Cooke, yes, theyd probably win but u gotta remember that theyre a lot heavier that her.
Disagree. I think people here are underrating her performance on Cutthroat (I thought she was a little better than middle of the pack that challenge) but she was definitely not good on Fresh Meat (dragged *** in Exile), Exes and Rivals 2 (which you stated), and Rivals 1. Rivals 1 she and Laurel DQed in 5/8 challenges. They made the final by winning eliminations (pretty much her MO), one of which was a pushing contest with Jonna and Jaz. Free Agents she was good, Bloodlines she was pretty good (still had some bad performances), and Cutthroat she was fine. She gets a p*** on Seasons because of Easy. If that team had Kenny or Evan, or even Noor or Pete they would've been pretty good.
I'm sorry but Cara is still garbage. The only reason she's doing good is because there's no legit competition.
Then why was she much better on Free Agents compared to Rivals 2? Those two seasons’ female cast were basically the same minus a few people.
how was it little to late if she won? lol....
She wasn't better on Free Agents. She just eliminated girls that wern't all that good. And when she went up against someone who was good she lost.
She did much better in the daily missions than she used to and even outperformed girls like Camila, Theresa, Nany, etc. As for eliminations, she beat Nia in one of the hardest endurance eliminations, and losing to Laurel isn't a bad thing given 90% of the female alumni from any generation would probably lose to her. You seem to be one of the only people here to deny she improved on Free Agents. Even people who can't stand her admit she got her shit together that season.
Well if she preformed better why did she end up in the draw half the time?
She did well in individual missions, yet ended up in the draw due to shitty teammates/partners. So by your logic, Jessica was one of the best girls on that season since she won several missions?
She didn't do all that well in idivitual missions. She got lucky in all of them.
Debut I agree with you with most things but you are too hard on FM and that's the only reason you don't like her/acknowledge her performance: she's FM and therefore "not worthy". lol No need to be so stubborn
ZZZZZZ... I'm over this. It's like talking to a brick wall. NEXT.
There were only two individual missions that season: the sausage roll one, which she did well and came in second to Laurel and trivia which she came in in the middle. She also gave, in my opinion, the worst trivia answer of all time in which she did not know the name of the continent that she lives on. People point to Johnny's Dutch thing as the braindead moment of that challenge but I think that was WAY worse.
Cara won two challenges that season. Both were big team ones. Her win on the ropes challenge was VERY impressive given all of the DQs (Johnny, CT, etc...) but I think a lot of her hype on Free Agents comes from elimination wins. Not that she was bad at challenges...she just wasn't amazing.
But the point I'm trying to make is that Cara went from being HORRENDOUS in daily missions to decent. That's an IMPROVEMENT and what we were arguing about. Cara has improved.
Yes, Cara has improved. Unless it's swimming or a puzzle she's not a liabilty. But I do think there's merit to the point that she does look better by comparison since a lot of the better girls have moved on or dropped off in their performances (Camila, Aneesa). Was she easily the second best girl on Free Agents? Absolutely. By far. But the gap between her and Laurel was pretty big too. I think given that her life essentially revolves around training for the show, 1/8 isn't particularly impressive. Johnny gets shit on constantly for making the shows his life, but Cara's pretty much done the same thing, just to a substantially lesser degree of success in terms of wins.
Well I hate to bring it up and I am done talking about Bananas after this, but Bananas literally would have had to TRY to lose the Island, Ruins, and Rivals 3.
I am? Not really. If anything I'm hard on AYTO(Although they deserve it).
And you know what's ****** up? He probably still wins those seasons too. Even if he tried his damndest to lose.
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