The Challenge: Unpopular Opinions

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Sarah was never nice in the first place.

I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the nice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... 

Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Sarah should've gotten rid of both Laurel and Cara and Luke on Cutthroat..

luke wasnt great on cutthroat but he was still better than cara. 

Kripsters1 wrote:

I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the nice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

She wasn't the mastermind, but almost all the challengers Girls knew and were agreeing. 

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the nice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

She wasn't the mastermind, but almost all the challengers Girls knew and were agreeing. 

let's not pretend like they had any real say in the matter.  Especially since they didn't win the mission. You're reaching now, if you have to say "the entire team was for it" and blame Sarah than that's a stretch. Sarah wasn't even nominated that day, she had zero power over the situation at all even if by some miracle the challengers won. 

Scott wins HOH.

I have a feeling a mbr of the LNJ may actually leave this week.

I love Paula and miss her. She was such a character during the JEK era. I miss you Paula.

Scott wins HOH.I have a feeling a mbr of the LNJ may actually leave this week.

WTF?

***** if I could get 15k by drinking fish guts you better believe im down that shit. Besides you're allowed to throw it up so drink it and puke it up pretty simple

Kripsters1 wrote:

I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the nice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

I'd exclude Exes 2, since that was a result of her not wanting to be a "nice" girl anymore. But, totally true. can't forget her berating Shavaun.

I would have berated Shavoun too. Shavoun was even worse than Cara Maria. 

Kripsters1 wrote:

I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

ummm no. Camila was the second best female that season. Laurel, Camila, Jenn, Emily, and then Sarah. I actually don't remember Sarah's specific acts of feat but i do know she was better than Cara. 

InternationalFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

ummm no. Camila was the second best female that season. Laurel, Camila, Jenn, Emily, and then Sarah. I actually don't remember Sarah's specific acts of feat but i do know she was better than Cara. 

Yeah, Emily was definitely at best, average that season. Jenn even outperformed Em in the final.

InternationalFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

ummm no. Camila was the second best female that season. Laurel, Camila, Jenn, Emily, and then Sarah. I actually don't remember Sarah's specific acts of feat but i do know she was better than Cara. 

Camilla was definitely the best in the red team but the red team girls sucked. And iirc in the challenges Jenn and Emily did better than Camilla. Sarah did overall better than Cara in the challenges but she gassed out in the final. That makes her worse in my opinion. Maybe not in yours. 

Yeah, Emily was definitely at best, average that season. Jenn even outperformed Em in the final.

I disagree. I actually don't even like Emily but she was a beast that season. Jenn was pretty good that season too but imo emily was just better. In the challenges and in the final. 

even though this is an opinion thread.... i remember watching Cutthroat and if we're going to judge by performance i do recall Camila being better overall than Emily and Jenn in the missions. 

in the missions i can't exactly remember who was better Emily or Jenn. but in the final i can without a doubt say Jenn outperformed Emily. 

even though this is an opinion thread.... i remember watching Cutthroat and if we're going to judge by performance i do recall Camila being better overall than Emily and Jenn in the missions. in the missions i can't exactly remember who was better Emily or Jenn. but in the final i can without a doubt say Jenn outperformed Emily. 

I must be remembering it wrong because in my head it's the opposite. Perfect excuse for a rewatch i guess. 

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

no no no you're so wrong it's not even funny. Sarah constantly out performed Cara in pretty much every mission. 

InternationalFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

no no no you're so wrong it's not even funny. Sarah constantly out performed Cara in pretty much every mission. 

She gassed out in the end so imo she was overall less than average. 

AlwaysAMess wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:In all honesty, coming from someone who used to like Cara, she deserved the shit she got from Laurel and Sarah. If it wasnt for Laurel the team bank account would be so much less.

She deserved shit from Laurel, but not Sarah. That ***** did nothing to deserve avoiding elimination that season only to shit the bed in the final.

sarah was the top performing female on the gray team for the first portion of the season she was the fastest swimmer. 1/3 of the girls who made the jump without male assistance. Sure she cried on the upside downer mission but at least nobody described her as performing like someone "with an absence of any thought." Cara was just bad news that season and if it wasn't for laurel being undeservedly sent it, cara would not have made the final.does anyone actually think that cara would have beaten camila? People give cara way too much credit for that final anyways. All she did was keep up and carry her weight. She didn't really slow anyone down but she also didn't speed anyone up either. Laurel said that even after carrying her on the stretcher, cara still only followed in the back during the running.  Cara should've been up front leading the pack, setting the pace. Anyone who  does long distance running knows that running with someone who is slightly faster than yourself will result in you getting a better time. Cara was getting paid 30k and has sucked all season long. She needs to do more then "keep up" to earn 30,000 dollars 

CM didn't do anything bad while on the grey team, she didn't really slow them down or make them lose. Sarah attacking her and saying she was gonna ruin the final for them etc. was just hilarious because then Sarah ends up being the one who screwed over her team, not only by sucking and not being able to finish ala Big Easy, but also refusing to quit and crying on the ground and wasting time when Laurel, Luke, and CM were begging her to quit. 

You may still not like her, but the one thing you can say about CM is that over the course of all of her seasons, she's shown dramatic improvement in her performances, and she's gained a lot of confidence too. She would easily wipe the floor with Sarah in pretty much everything but swimming and puzzles.

The thing I hate about Sarah as well is that there's always a scapegoat when she underperforms. Ruins, KA slowed her down during the balance beam part (true, but KA killed and carried that final the rest of the way).  FMII, it was Vinny not her, even though she never had a chance in an endurance Challenge like FMII anyway. Cutthroat, it was CM, who actually overall had a better performance than her especially on the final. Rivals, she's grilling Katelynn about everything again, yet she lost that elimination for them. Seasons, it was Devyn, even though I think everyone can agree that even without Devyn, Sarah + whichever guy would've been the weakest team endurance-wise thanks to her. And finally Rivals III, she knew Bananas could **** her over, she was having major anxiety about it the whole final. But yet she has an excuse to not stand on the log; she's sick. She would have won if she would've stood out there, and that's on her as well.

Really should've put that entry in the Burn Book, but whatever.

Cara Maria hasn't improved at all....

Cara Maria hasn't improved at all....

Your bias is showing.

Challenge 17 wrote:

InternationalFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:
Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

no no no you're so wrong it's not even funny. Sarah constantly out performed Cara in pretty much every mission. 

She gassed out in the end so imo she was overall less than average. 

so by that logic, Luke is better than Abram since despite out performing him in every mission, Abe gassed out in the end 

Then I guess Luke is better than Abram.

Debut Album wrote:

Cara Maria hasn't improved at all....

Your bias is showing.

Not Really.

AlwaysAMess wrote:

Debut Album wrote: Cara Maria hasn't improved at all....

Your bias is showing.

Not Really.

then you're blind.

laurel, camila and jenn were the top 3 girls that season. camila actually did really well in all the missions she was present for except surfs up

also while its better late than never that cara maria has improved her abilities as a competitor, its still too late. waiting until the 7th challenge to get your shit together is pathetic. she should have shown up, ready to play, on her 3rd challenge and if she did she would have actually done well since shes been gifted with so many amazing partners. imagine coming into work and ******* up for your first 6 shifts before finally carrying your weight in your 7th. that would never fly. 

there are some people who dont shine on the challenges until later on BUT in their case its because they didnt have the opportunity to do so due to politics, partners, bad luck, etc. in cara's case she had all the opportunity in the world to showcase what she had

Everyone develops their skills at their own pace. To say it's pathetic is a bit much.

And in Cara's case was her lack of confidence that impeded her. She also wasn't as good as she now. But she was always viewed as a contender and potential threat, even in her early challenges, so there was something there.

InternationalFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:

InternationalFan wrote:
Challenge 17 wrote:
Kripsters1 wrote:I hated when Sarah on Exes constantly said she hated always playing the n ice girl and it got her  0 wins.When in fact she did these things:Ruins: helped planning Kellyanne vs EvCutthroat: threw challenge to throw in Cara mariaExes 2 : Threw in friend/ alliance member Not saying she is bad, just saying she is no landon and hated when she said it constantly 

Sarah didn't plan Kelly Anne against Evelyn...... Cara was pathetic on cutthroat, she was a..only kept around to bang Abram. 

Cara was the best girl after Laurel. (On grey team) Sarah didn't do anything that season except gas out at the end. Honestly apart from Laurel and Emily, all the females were either average or below.

no no no you're so wrong it's not even funny. Sarah constantly out performed Cara in pretty much every mission. 

She gassed out in the end so imo she was overall less than average. 

so by that logic, Luke is better than Abram since despite out performing him in every mission, Abe gassed out in the end 

So by your logic Abram and Sarah were equal on cutthroat ? Abram and Laurel pretty much carried the team with everyone else either being average or below. Also Luke didnt do anything special but he was rarely a weak link in the team. 

I still think Cara's only really good showing was on Free Agents, which given that the female competition on that show was pretty poor is unsurprising. I also think a lot of the praise thrown on her that season is based on her elimination record. 

Bloodlines Cara wasn't very good. I know she won but she went up against two below average teams and she barely won. It was largely because Jamie was the only one who could eat that food and the other teams couldn't figure out the canoe. If you remove those two sections she comes in last. She was bad in a number of challenges that season (Trivia, Airpockets), admittedly weighed down by Jamie in some (mini-final), and middle of the pack for the remainder. She had a nice win against Aneesa, but other than that nothing particularly impressive. 

Cara can be the frontrunner on a season where there are no top tier girls. Put a Laurel, Emily, Cooke, etc. on and she is a distant second best. She's had one top flight season and the rest were average at best. 

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