It's honestly pathetic how much of her sad little life Susie wastes on hating Wes. I used to like Sarah but listening to her on these things with Susie and on the show with Bananas has just shown how much of a people-pleaser she is and how insecure she is. It totally explains why she came back, even though she is on her high horse aobut how much better her life is than all these pathetic dumb people with no lives. she NEEDS to have people think she's smart and great and wonderful, and she rolls over whenever susie bullies her into asking how she can be friends with wes when wes was like her only friend there. It's sad she's wanting to be some kind of therapist because she obviously has so many issues she hasn't worked on yet, and hanging around with trash like susie isn't going to help her.
I'm honestly loving the dragging of Sarah/Susie/V1Man in here. Please keep it up everybody! ****
Wasn't Susie one of V1Man's 3 "friends (the others being Beth & Tori)" that he used to go so hard for? She's probably never met that fool at all ****ooo
Yep, He used be booty wet for some Susie and vice versa ***** wet. Remember there was a time when the initial moderating crew would ban you for disagreeing with them. Banhammer*******.
It's honestly pathetic how much of her sad little life Susie wastes on hating Wes. I used to like Sarah but listening to her on these things with Susie and on the show with Bananas has just shown how much of a people-pleaser she is and how insecure she is. It totally explains why she came back, even though she is on her high horse aobut how much better her life is than all these pathetic dumb people with no lives. she NEEDS to have people think she's smart and great and wonderful, and she rolls over whenever susie bullies her into asking how she can be friends with wes when wes was like her only friend there. It's sad she's wanting to be some kind of therapist because she obviously has so many issues she hasn't worked on yet, and hanging around with trash like susie isn't going to help her.
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Susie shits Chet and Wes everytime time she gets knowing both of them are friends with Sarah and give Sarah a hard time that's not cool and hard to listen.
I'm just watching the recap when they get KA because I love her
Sarah and Susie are disgusting for continuing to bring this topic up especially to get fans to watch their tragic podcast. They already said it didn't happen on social media so why go on the podcast and make a whole discussion on it one again? Bye. Also something still doesn't add up because they always say Kenny didn't do anything but never mentions Evan. Also they are just now saying sexual misconduct happened after how many years? Bye hags!
On top of this Susie said that she didn't see or hear anything in that article she wrote awhile back so how is she now saying it didnt happen/Kenny didn't do anything? Somebody is clearly lying here.
I used to like Susie but not after hearing all of this.
Plus she hasn't aged well, like I almost jumped out of my seat when I saw her on that special. More frightening than anything I saw on The Conjuring 2.
Bye at V1Man...he can stay pressed over the challenge on twitter. But you ain't here that from me.
On top of this Susie said that she didn't see or hear anything in that article she wrote awhile back so how is she now saying it didnt happen/Kenny didn't do anything? Somebody is clearly lying here.
Exactly! They need to either get their story straight or just stop talking about it because it keeps changing every time they talk about it.
Chile this thread's name should be changed to Susie and Sarah's podcast because I haven't heard of any other current podcasts aside from the one Coral was doing that flopped.
On top of this Susie said that she didn't see or hear anything in that article she wrote awhile back so how is she now saying it didnt happen/Kenny didn't do anything? Somebody is clearly lying here.
Exactly! They need to either get their story straight or just stop talking about it because it keeps changing every time they talk about it.
And I didn't even hear of Sarah being in the room until recently so I think she's full of shit too.
i like susie. i love how she shits on john and has been one of the few people that has opposed him successfully in this game
Agree! I guess we're in the minority. I really like Susie, but I love smart, strong women like her. She won my respect forever for putting her foot down with the Johnny/Evan/Kenny alliance on the Ruins. She told them straight up they better not pull any shenanigans and try to get her out and I remember her saying she will not be treated that way just because she has a ******. Evan later admitted that he was scared of her because she is so smart and those guys with their frat boy mentality are threatened by smart, tough women. Johnny Bananas despises smart, strong women of course, so of course he despised Susie.
Why is Susie so **** bent over Wes every time he is brought up? And she is solely blaming him for the Tonya incident. Like this if the first I ever heard of him being the one to tell her. And agree they need to get their story straight all of a sudden the "sexual misconduct" has happened, yet they have never said it in the past
Okay, so I listened to the brain candy episode where they discuss Tonya. As mentioned above, Sarah categorizes what occurred on The Ruins as "***ual misconduct" which is a very broad term that encompasses ***ual assault, ***ual exploitation, ***ual intimidation and ***ual harrassment. They claim there was no assault i.e. no physical contact. If they're telling the truth, this means Tonya was still either exploited, intimidated and/or harrassed while she was asleep i.e. incapacitated by alcohol. As broad of a term as it is, ***ual misconduct is still without consent, which makes it innately wrong in every which way.
Is this the first time ***ual misconduct free of direct physical contact, has occcurred in the challenge house? No, not even remotely.
1. Walking in on and/or tossing grown men into bathrooms where women are undressing.
2. Watching two people engage in *** even though they are doing it in closed off quarters.
3. Laying completely naked in someone's bed after they have repeatedly told you they are not interested in sleeping with you.
ALL happened on the challenge, in some cases recently. I know I'm missing some huge ones, so feel free to add to that list, but honestly, production has been lenient with cast members for so long, it doesn't surprise me how divided people are when it comes to this incident.
If a toothbrush was used, they assaulted her. If a toothbrush wasn't used and they were just acting like idiots while she was passed out drunk, they still exploited and harrassed her, and later manipulated her into thinking they were her friends (Veronica fight).
Until now, both Sarah and Susie have used the word "innocent" when referring to this, which implies no wrongdoing, but now I'm not so sure. You guys are right. Their story does keep changing, and they keep using broader terms to dance around the subject. I understand if they can't discuss it in great detail for legal reasons, but in that case I would just leave the issue to rest altogether.
The fact that Sarah is a victim of ***ual assault and can still look past an incident like this, however muddled, is appalling to say the least. According to Bananas, Susie is also a victim of ***ual assault. I can't recall whether Susie has publicly discussed what happened to her, but I do know it was a major plot point for Sarah in her real world season. This has been the main reason I've sided with them all this time. I just can't see Sarah supporting a man who is guilty of something even broadly connected to ***ual assault. Susie, too, but mostly Sarah because she has been vocal about her experiences since the start of her reality tv career.
While I can see Evan and Kenny thinking it would be funny to mess around with Tonya while she's unconscious, I can also see Tonya buying into anything people tell her. The problem is she waited a long time to take it to court and when she finally did, she was relying on third party stories. Coincidentally, one of the people who told her what happened had fallen out with Evan and Kenny shortly before and resented them on a very personal level that season. To my recollection this person was also on steroids at the time, and acted irrationally from day one to the day of his elimination. I'm not saying Wes is lying, but you have to consider every angle.
From what I've read, they reached a settlement and the charges were dropped. On top of that, they were on a reality show where, at the time, Kenny and Evan were main players, meaning lots of camera time. I highly doubt they have zero footage of what had or had not occurred. The fact that charges were dropped leads me to believe there was solid evidence against them, but they intimidated Tonya into walking away with just a cheque.
In conclusion, I think everyone involved, apart from Tonya, is hiding something. Production is to blame here. What pieces of shit.
This is exactly what happens when you facilitate misconduct of a ***ual, violent, and/or verbally aggressive nature and call it ~drama.
the real fact is that they were there and know what happened while no one on this forum was...end of story everything else is just opinions based on the lawsuit...and opinions are not facts...I just think we all need to stop pretending like we no what happened.
the real fact is that they were there and know what happened while no one on this forum was...end of story everything else is just opinions based on the lawsuit...and opinions are not facts...I just think we all need to stop pretending like we no what happened.
But they were there and the story keeps changing..somebody is lying/covering somethig up and it's clear as day.
It's honestly pathetic how much of her sad little life Susie wastes on hating Wes. I used to like Sarah but listening to her on these things with Susie and on the show with Bananas has just shown how much of a people-pleaser she is and how insecure she is. It totally explains why she came back, even though she is on her high horse aobut how much better her life is than all these pathetic dumb people with no lives. she NEEDS to have people think she's smart and great and wonderful, and she rolls over whenever susie bullies her into asking how she can be friends with wes when wes was like her only friend there. It's sad she's wanting to be some kind of therapist because she obviously has so many issues she hasn't worked on yet, and hanging around with trash like susie isn't going to help her.
I'm honestly loving the dragging of Sarah/Susie/V1Man in here. Please keep it up everybody! ****
Wasn't Susie one of V1Man's 3 "friends (the others being Beth & Tori)" that he used to go so hard for? She's probably never met that fool at all ****ooo
Yep, He used be booty wet for some Susie and vice versa ***** wet. Remember there was a time when the initial moderating crew would ban you for disagreeing with them. Banhammer*******.
I love Susie ❤️
Wait but can someone link me the posts where Witty drags Vman off the site *****
That wasn't me I was defending him during the dragging. LOL!
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Susie shits Chet and Wes everytime time she gets knowing both of them are friends with Sarah and give Sarah a hard time that's not cool and hard to listen.
I'm just watching the recap when they get KA because I love her
On top of this Susie said that she didn't see or hear anything in that article she wrote awhile back so how is she now saying it didnt happen/Kenny didn't do anything? Somebody is clearly lying here.
Susie is the scum of the Earth.
I used to like Susie but not after hearing all of this.
Plus she hasn't aged well, like I almost jumped out of my seat when I saw her on that special. More frightening than anything I saw on The Conjuring 2.
Bye at V1Man...he can stay pressed over the challenge on twitter. But you ain't here that from me.
Exactly! They need to either get their story straight or just stop talking about it because it keeps changing every time they talk about it.
Chile this thread's name should be changed to Susie and Sarah's podcast because I haven't heard of any other current podcasts aside from the one Coral was doing that flopped.
And I didn't even hear of Sarah being in the room until recently so I think she's full of shit too.
And according to his twitter he may have been alerted to the conversation about him...but you didn't hear that from me either.
DEAD lol.
http://robhasawebsite.com/mtv-challenge-rivals-3-episode-9-recap-podcast/
This is another popular challenge podcast.
i like susie. i love how she shits on john and has been one of the few people that has opposed him successfully in this game
Inferno or Ruins what are we talking about here?
Agree! I guess we're in the minority. I really like Susie, but I love smart, strong women like her. She won my respect forever for putting her foot down with the Johnny/Evan/Kenny alliance on the Ruins. She told them straight up they better not pull any shenanigans and try to get her out and I remember her saying she will not be treated that way just because she has a ******. Evan later admitted that he was scared of her because she is so smart and those guys with their frat boy mentality are threatened by smart, tough women. Johnny Bananas despises smart, strong women of course, so of course he despised Susie.
Why is Susie so **** bent over Wes every time he is brought up? And she is solely blaming him for the Tonya incident. Like this if the first I ever heard of him being the one to tell her. And agree they need to get their story straight all of a sudden the "sexual misconduct" has happened, yet they have never said it in the past
Yeah, and he alway had excuses and justifications for Evelyn, Cara Maria, Laurel and Tori blaming Justin Booth for the stupid behavior of his proteges
Which podcast episode do they discussed the Tonya incident at length?
the latest, rivals 3 mid season
V1 blocked me on Twitter for liking a comment that disagreed with his...
Childish ***. What did you say?
Okay, so I listened to the brain candy episode where they discuss Tonya. As mentioned above, Sarah categorizes what occurred on The Ruins as "***ual misconduct" which is a very broad term that encompasses ***ual assault, ***ual exploitation, ***ual intimidation and ***ual harrassment. They claim there was no assault i.e. no physical contact. If they're telling the truth, this means Tonya was still either exploited, intimidated and/or harrassed while she was asleep i.e. incapacitated by alcohol. As broad of a term as it is, ***ual misconduct is still without consent, which makes it innately wrong in every which way.
Is this the first time ***ual misconduct free of direct physical contact, has occcurred in the challenge house? No, not even remotely.
1. Walking in on and/or tossing grown men into bathrooms where women are undressing.
2. Watching two people engage in *** even though they are doing it in closed off quarters.
3. Laying completely naked in someone's bed after they have repeatedly told you they are not interested in sleeping with you.
ALL happened on the challenge, in some cases recently. I know I'm missing some huge ones, so feel free to add to that list, but honestly, production has been lenient with cast members for so long, it doesn't surprise me how divided people are when it comes to this incident.
If a toothbrush was used, they assaulted her. If a toothbrush wasn't used and they were just acting like idiots while she was passed out drunk, they still exploited and harrassed her, and later manipulated her into thinking they were her friends (Veronica fight).
Until now, both Sarah and Susie have used the word "innocent" when referring to this, which implies no wrongdoing, but now I'm not so sure. You guys are right. Their story does keep changing, and they keep using broader terms to dance around the subject. I understand if they can't discuss it in great detail for legal reasons, but in that case I would just leave the issue to rest altogether.
The fact that Sarah is a victim of ***ual assault and can still look past an incident like this, however muddled, is appalling to say the least. According to Bananas, Susie is also a victim of ***ual assault. I can't recall whether Susie has publicly discussed what happened to her, but I do know it was a major plot point for Sarah in her real world season. This has been the main reason I've sided with them all this time. I just can't see Sarah supporting a man who is guilty of something even broadly connected to ***ual assault. Susie, too, but mostly Sarah because she has been vocal about her experiences since the start of her reality tv career.
While I can see Evan and Kenny thinking it would be funny to mess around with Tonya while she's unconscious, I can also see Tonya buying into anything people tell her. The problem is she waited a long time to take it to court and when she finally did, she was relying on third party stories. Coincidentally, one of the people who told her what happened had fallen out with Evan and Kenny shortly before and resented them on a very personal level that season. To my recollection this person was also on steroids at the time, and acted irrationally from day one to the day of his elimination. I'm not saying Wes is lying, but you have to consider every angle.
From what I've read, they reached a settlement and the charges were dropped. On top of that, they were on a reality show where, at the time, Kenny and Evan were main players, meaning lots of camera time. I highly doubt they have zero footage of what had or had not occurred. The fact that charges were dropped leads me to believe there was solid evidence against them, but they intimidated Tonya into walking away with just a cheque.
In conclusion, I think everyone involved, apart from Tonya, is hiding something. Production is to blame here. What pieces of shit.
This is exactly what happens when you facilitate misconduct of a ***ual, violent, and/or verbally aggressive nature and call it ~drama.
the real fact is that they were there and know what happened while no one on this forum was...end of story everything else is just opinions based on the lawsuit...and opinions are not facts...I just think we all need to stop pretending like we no what happened.
But they were there and the story keeps changing..somebody is lying/covering somethig up and it's clear as day.
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