Based on what you guys are saying the general consensus is that Cara is an attention ***** while Sarah is less annoying because she's just delusional meaning her annoying moments come from her believing she's actually always right.
I don't know how anyone that watched Sarah from her first season would be dumb enough to think Sarah genuinely belives what she's saying. She's semi-intelligent and has carefully staged herself to look better in aired footage each season. She knows what she's doing. She said she put herself further into debt to be on the real world. I'm sorry, but that's pathetic. So is every contrived, pretend kindergarden teacher, overly animated word from her mouth. She's an annoying, squatty troll that only looks less obnonxious because she's next to people like Simone, Ashley, and Camilla that either are or act like such terrible excuses for humans. These newbies (and Camila) are such trainwrecks I'm starting to think Nany is halfway tolerable. I actually like Johnny now...that's what this show has become. Sarah likes to talk about how she comes up with games and is like the camp counselor. Maybe that's the problem. They're following advice from that contrived trainwreck. She should probably remember to bring some Dr. Suess so Jenna will learn to read or find a brain. Yes: Cara Maria is overly emotional, has extreme emotions, and suffers from verbal diarrhea...at least she's a genuine and honest person. She speaks her mind and gives her opinion a little too much...so what who doesn't.
I hate saying it, but Bananas said it best. Sarah plays a scared game. She always has. You have to when you're the player with the least muscle tone of every season your on. She tried to get rid of KA, because she was threatened by her on whatever seaason it was where Suzie's team only won because production literally cheated and told the vets they were going the wrong way. Then, made it look like KA was the only reason they lost..that way we'll believe Sarah is actually not just some short squatty nothing. On cutthroat, she ganged up on CM because she was afraid of her then too. Trying to act like CM needed to earn her place on the team and was skating by because of Abram. Meanwhile in the corner, the most physically unfit girl on the gray team is over there having never seen an elimination that season. Come exes, she throws in her ally and friend in right before the final. Why because she isn't good enough to have won it against him. Plus you know Nany's a mental trainwreck and sending her into an elimination round is an easy way to get rid of a good team. They're a good team this season because she's with JB and they are vets play a good political game. Not to mention, the other teams are just so God awful. KA and Jaimie have potential...I just think they're both more about the experience than the win though. Nany and Wes have potential...if Nany wasn't such a head case and Wes wasn't so obsessed with how great he is they'd be a good team.
Based on what you guys are saying the general consensus is that Cara is an attention ***** while Sarah is less annoying because she's just delusional meaning her annoying moments come from her believing she's actually always right.
I don't know how anyone that watched Sarah from her first season would be dumb enough to think Sarah genuinely belives what she's saying. She's semi-intelligent and has carefully staged herself to look better in aired footage each season. She knows what she's doing. She said she put herself further into debt to be on the real world. I'm sorry, but that's pathetic. So is every contrived, pretend kindergarden teacher, overly animated word from her mouth. She's an annoying, squatty troll that only looks less obnonxious because she's next to people like Simone, Ashley, and Camilla that either are or act like such terrible excuses for humans. These newbies (and Camila) are such trainwrecks I'm starting to think Nany is halfway tolerable. I actually like Johnny now...that's what this show has become. Sarah likes to talk about how she comes up with games and is like the camp counselor. Maybe that's the problem. They're following advice from that contrived trainwreck. She should probably remember to bring some Dr. Suess so Jenna will learn to read or find a brain. Yes: Cara Maria is overly emotional, has extreme emotions, and suffers from verbal diarrhea...at least she's a genuine and honest person. She speaks her mind and gives her opinion a little too much...so what who doesn't. I hate saying it, but Bananas said it best. Sarah plays a scared game. She always has. You have to when you're the player with the least muscle tone of every season your on. She tried to get rid of KA, because she was threatened by her on whatever seaason it was where Suzie's team only won because production literally cheated and told the vets they were going the wrong way. Then, made it look like KA was the only reason they lost..that way we'll believe Sarah is actually not just some short squatty nothing. On cutthroat, she ganged up on CM because she was afraid of her then too. Trying to act like CM needed to earn her place on the team and was skating by because of Abram. Meanwhile in the corner, the most physically unfit girl on the gray team is over there having never seen an elimination that season. Come exes, she throws in her ally and friend in right before the final. Why because she isn't good enough to have won it against him. Plus you know Nany's a mental trainwreck and sending her into an elimination round is an easy way to get rid of a good team. They're a good team this season because she's with JB and they are vets play a good political game. Not to mention, the other teams are just so God awful. KA and Jaimie have potential...I just think they're both more about the experience than the win though. Nany and Wes have potential...if Nany wasn't such a head case and Wes wasn't so obsessed with how great he is they'd be a good team.
Did you watch Bloodlines? Did you not see Cara lie to Abrams face for x weeks and then confess to her cousin that Abram was so abusive and she was trying to leave him anyway (to most likely make herself feel beter/ look better to Jamie) and then take it back in the reunion? I think what you describe as verbal diarrhea is unskilled lying, either to Jamie or on the aftershow.
I believe that the vast majority of the current crop of challengers is inauthentic, they're all playing up something for camera time. Sarah's goober, camp counselor persona, however much it may annoy you, is consistent throughout all of the media I've seen of her (podcasts, interviews, etc). Can you pinpoint what caused you to think her personality is contrived?
Also, scared game = smart game. Strategy is part of the challenge and why would you not eliminate your greastest competition?
Yes she lied in bloodlines, but part was editing and part was a sticky situation she put herself in. She made a mistake and owned up to it multiple times publically and privately. CM has congruent behavior. She's the same person on twitter, MTV, podcasts, videos, and I'd assume real life. What I mean by verbal diahrrhea is partly yes she is a bad liar. Most of the time she knows it. However, she also spews what she's thinking without knowing when not to speak a lot of the times.
I definitely think most of the current crop of challengers are just acting for the cameras, but they pretty much admit it. Unlike Sarah who tries to pretend that's who she really is. Even as annoying as Ashley is, I think a lot of it's an act...or I hope to god it is. Amanda makes me laugh because she clearly is acting like she does for the cameras, so you know not to take her seriously.
Sarah is a totally different person in podcasts on her earlier real world season,etc. Yes you should eliminte the strongest competitors, but not when they're on your team. She didn't start acting like a camp counselor until a few seasons in. Like cutthroat or after. In her podcasts she doesn't act like a camp counselor. If she were consistently like that I would actually like her. IMO she tries to mimic JB ain how he speaks in a very politically correct almost scripted way for the cameras as of the last couple of seasons. However, her voice pitch changes when she tries to do it and it just oozes of BS. In earlier seasons you saw genuine relationships between Sarah and some castmates. Once she finally won she became even more all about the game to me. Abram said it best on bloodlines. If you'll stab someone in the back there, you'll do it at home. If you have no regard for anyones feelings in the challenge even early on, you probably don't back home either. I think Abram's statement applies to CM too. The difference is Cara was genuinely sorry for her actions and Sarah is becoming more heartless with every challenge. Sarah faked an apology with JB just to win tears and all. Then trash talks him consistently. That's why I don't like her.
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WittyWrath wrote:Based on what you guys are saying the general consensus is that Cara is an attention ***** while Sarah is less annoying because she's just delusional meaning her annoying moments come from her believing she's actually always right.
I don't know how anyone that watched Sarah from her first season would be dumb enough to think Sarah genuinely belives what she's saying. She's semi-intelligent and has carefully staged herself to look better in aired footage each season. She knows what she's doing. She said she put herself further into debt to be on the real world. I'm sorry, but that's pathetic. So is every contrived, pretend kindergarden teacher, overly animated word from her mouth. She's an annoying, squatty troll that only looks less obnonxious because she's next to people like Simone, Ashley, and Camilla that either are or act like such terrible excuses for humans. These newbies (and Camila) are such trainwrecks I'm starting to think Nany is halfway tolerable. I actually like Johnny now...that's what this show has become. Sarah likes to talk about how she comes up with games and is like the camp counselor. Maybe that's the problem. They're following advice from that contrived trainwreck. She should probably remember to bring some Dr. Suess so Jenna will learn to read or find a brain. Yes: Cara Maria is overly emotional, has extreme emotions, and suffers from verbal diarrhea...at least she's a genuine and honest person. She speaks her mind and gives her opinion a little too much...so what who doesn't. I hate saying it, but Bananas said it best. Sarah plays a scared game. She always has. You have to when you're the player with the least muscle tone of every season your on. She tried to get rid of KA, because she was threatened by her on whatever seaason it was where Suzie's team only won because production literally cheated and told the vets they were going the wrong way. Then, made it look like KA was the only reason they lost..that way we'll believe Sarah is actually not just some short squatty nothing. On cutthroat, she ganged up on CM because she was afraid of her then too. Trying to act like CM needed to earn her place on the team and was skating by because of Abram. Meanwhile in the corner, the most physically unfit girl on the gray team is over there having never seen an elimination that season. Come exes, she throws in her ally and friend in right before the final. Why because she isn't good enough to have won it against him. Plus you know Nany's a mental trainwreck and sending her into an elimination round is an easy way to get rid of a good team. They're a good team this season because she's with JB and they are vets play a good political game. Not to mention, the other teams are just so God awful. KA and Jaimie have potential...I just think they're both more about the experience than the win though. Nany and Wes have potential...if Nany wasn't such a head case and Wes wasn't so obsessed with how great he is they'd be a good team.
Did you watch Bloodlines? Did you not see Cara lie to Abrams face for x weeks and then confess to her cousin that Abram was so abusive and she was trying to leave him anyway (to most likely make herself feel beter/ look better to Jamie) and then take it back in the reunion? I think what you describe as verbal diarrhea is unskilled lying, either to Jamie or on the aftershow.I believe that the vast majority of the current crop of challengers is inauthentic, they're all playing up something for camera time. Sarah's goober, camp counselor persona, however much it may annoy you, is consistent throughout all of the media I've seen of her (podcasts, interviews, etc). Can you pinpoint what caused you to think her personality is contrived? Also, scared game = smart game. Strategy is part of the challenge and why would you not eliminate your greastest competition?
They're bringing GUTS back? Why the **** did they ask Jenna of all people? Was Cara Maria or Laurel not available? Like I'm so lost when it comes to this Plank shit...
They're bringing GUTS back? Why the **** did they ask Jenna of all people? Was Cara Maria or Laurel not available? Like I'm so lost when it comes to this Plank shit...
Because Jenna is queen and in high demand #MADORNAH
Yes she lied in bloodlines, but part was editing and part was a sticky situation she put herself in. She made a mistake and owned up to it multiple times publically and privately. CM has congruent behavior. She's the same person on twitter, MTV, podcasts, videos, and I'd assume real life. What I mean by verbal diahrrhea is partly yes she is a bad liar. Most of the time she knows it. However, she also spews what she's thinking without knowing when not to speak a lot of the times. I definitely think most of the current crop of challengers are just acting for the cameras, but they pretty much admit it. Unlike Sarah who tries to pretend that's who she really is. Even as annoying as Ashley is, I think a lot of it's an act...or I hope to god it is. Amanda makes me laugh because she clearly is acting like she does for the cameras, so you know not to take her seriously. Sarah is a totally different person in podcasts on her earlier real world season,etc. Yes you should eliminte the strongest competitors, but not when they're on your team. She didn't start acting like a camp counselor until a few seasons in. Like cutthroat or after. In her podcasts she doesn't act like a camp counselor. If she were consistently like that I would actually like her. IMO she tries to mimic JB ain how he speaks in a very politically correct almost scripted way for the cameras as of the last couple of seasons. However, her voice pitch changes when she tries to do it and it just oozes of BS. In earlier seasons you saw genuine relationships between Sarah and some castmates. Once she finally won she became even more all about the game to me. Abram said it best on bloodlines. If you'll stab someone in the back there, you'll do it at home. If you have no regard for anyones feelings in the challenge even early on, you probably don't back home either. I think Abram's statement applies to CM too. The difference is Cara was genuinely sorry for her actions and Sarah is becoming more heartless with every challenge. Sarah faked an apology with JB just to win tears and all. Then trash talks him consistently. That's why I don't like her.
I've never heard of any castmember admitting to their fake confessional personas so I don't think it's fair to pinpoint Sarah for that (though I will definitely agree that it's fake). When I said her camp councelor attitude before I meant how passionate she gets about nerdy things (which is evident on brain candy) and not specifically her confessionals. Apparently she literally put Simone into the most recent elim for littering. I also don't agree with Abram that stabbing someone in the back on a challenge (especially Johnny) is indicative of real life morality.
It seems like I have to rewatch some of her earlier stuff to see the castmate interactions/personality change you're talking about; I've been wanting to see Ruins again but Brooklyn is such a chore.
Yes she lied in bloodlines, but part was editing and part was a sticky situation she put herself in. She made a mistake and owned up to it multiple times publically and privately. CM has congruent behavior. She's the same person on twitter, MTV, podcasts, videos, and I'd assume real life. What I mean by verbal diahrrhea is partly yes she is a bad liar. Most of the time she knows it. However, she also spews what she's thinking without knowing when not to speak a lot of the times. I definitely think most of the current crop of challengers are just acting for the cameras, but they pretty much admit it. Unlike Sarah who tries to pretend that's who she really is. Even as annoying as Ashley is, I think a lot of it's an act...or I hope to god it is. Amanda makes me laugh because she clearly is acting like she does for the cameras, so you know not to take her seriously. Sarah is a totally different person in podcasts on her earlier real world season,etc. Yes you should eliminte the strongest competitors, but not when they're on your team. She didn't start acting like a camp counselor until a few seasons in. Like cutthroat or after. In her podcasts she doesn't act like a camp counselor. If she were consistently like that I would actually like her. IMO she tries to mimic JB ain how he speaks in a very politically correct almost scripted way for the cameras as of the last couple of seasons. However, her voice pitch changes when she tries to do it and it just oozes of BS. In earlier seasons you saw genuine relationships between Sarah and some castmates. Once she finally won she became even more all about the game to me. Abram said it best on bloodlines. If you'll stab someone in the back there, you'll do it at home. If you have no regard for anyones feelings in the challenge even early on, you probably don't back home either. I think Abram's statement applies to CM too. The difference is Cara was genuinely sorry for her actions and Sarah is becoming more heartless with every challenge. Sarah faked an apology with JB just to win tears and all. Then trash talks him consistently. That's why I don't like her.
I've never heard of any castmember admitting to their fake confessional personas so I don't think it's fair to pinpoint Sarah for that (though I will definitely agree that it's fake). When I said her camp councelor attitude before I meant how passionate she gets about nerdy things (which is evident on brain candy) and not specifically her confessionals. Apparently she literally put Simone into the most recent elim for littering. I also don't agree with Abram that stabbing someone in the back on a challenge (especially Johnny) is indicative of real life morality.It seems like I have to rewatch some of her earlier stuff to see the castmate interactions/personality change you're talking about; I've been wanting to see Ruins again but Brooklyn is such a chore.
With the exception of the religious contestants of yore (like jon brennan) who actively tried to change it, people know that the challenge environment is rife with manipulation and back stabbing. When you sign up for a game like this and accept this as the norm, I believe that adapting to that environment and behaving in a way that raises your likelihood of winning (especially for those that arent elite competitors) is okay because everybody else has signed up for the same thing. All of the new people have done their research and watched some earlier seasons.
I realize back-stabbing is a broad term so let me specify that I wont apply this to family members or real life bffs on the same challenge (unless you've discussed that you're willing to throw each other under the bus to win the ultimate prize beforehand) because those relationships are built with real-world rules. Not sacrificing yourself to help a challenge buddy is reasonable though, imo. I hope this makes sense, I am having a gnarly caffeine crash rn.
lol. I appreciate the honesty.
YASSS
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i like that they've stayed cool after their season.
i think together because camilia and bananas I think are together because she just tweeted about it and said "we got this @mtvbananas"
Can't wait for CT & Jenna to stomp the **** out of Bananas & Camila
whats this guts thing?
DP
Poor, CT
Did nany get a new insta? Or is some crazy fan pretending to be her on there
I told you that ***** like them all liked Black *****.
Wasn't that tv show cacelled in '96?
i think nany's ig is private, so prob some crazy fan?
Nany doesn't have an ig page for now, the official page of the challenge doesn't tag anybody for pic for her.
I don't know how anyone that watched Sarah from her first season would be dumb enough to think Sarah genuinely belives what she's saying. She's semi-intelligent and has carefully staged herself to look better in aired footage each season. She knows what she's doing. She said she put herself further into debt to be on the real world. I'm sorry, but that's pathetic. So is every contrived, pretend kindergarden teacher, overly animated word from her mouth. She's an annoying, squatty troll that only looks less obnonxious because she's next to people like Simone, Ashley, and Camilla that either are or act like such terrible excuses for humans. These newbies (and Camila) are such trainwrecks I'm starting to think Nany is halfway tolerable. I actually like Johnny now...that's what this show has become. Sarah likes to talk about how she comes up with games and is like the camp counselor. Maybe that's the problem. They're following advice from that contrived trainwreck. She should probably remember to bring some Dr. Suess so Jenna will learn to read or find a brain. Yes: Cara Maria is overly emotional, has extreme emotions, and suffers from verbal diarrhea...at least she's a genuine and honest person. She speaks her mind and gives her opinion a little too much...so what who doesn't.
I hate saying it, but Bananas said it best. Sarah plays a scared game. She always has. You have to when you're the player with the least muscle tone of every season your on. She tried to get rid of KA, because she was threatened by her on whatever seaason it was where Suzie's team only won because production literally cheated and told the vets they were going the wrong way. Then, made it look like KA was the only reason they lost..that way we'll believe Sarah is actually not just some short squatty nothing. On cutthroat, she ganged up on CM because she was afraid of her then too. Trying to act like CM needed to earn her place on the team and was skating by because of Abram. Meanwhile in the corner, the most physically unfit girl on the gray team is over there having never seen an elimination that season. Come exes, she throws in her ally and friend in right before the final. Why because she isn't good enough to have won it against him. Plus you know Nany's a mental trainwreck and sending her into an elimination round is an easy way to get rid of a good team. They're a good team this season because she's with JB and they are vets play a good political game. Not to mention, the other teams are just so God awful. KA and Jaimie have potential...I just think they're both more about the experience than the win though. Nany and Wes have potential...if Nany wasn't such a head case and Wes wasn't so obsessed with how great he is they'd be a good team.
AMANDA IS REALLY LOW KEY BLUEHATCHET2 #QUEEN
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Poor Ryan isn't used to having his own drama.
yeah but ther are recreating it in nyc
**** Amanda is still bitter about Ryan.
What happens between Amanda and Ryan?
She tore into him during one of the matching ceremonies in season 3. He called her childish or something.
supposedly she also took shots at his personal life, wife, etc
Did you watch Bloodlines? Did you not see Cara lie to Abrams face for x weeks and then confess to her cousin that Abram was so abusive and she was trying to leave him anyway (to most likely make herself feel beter/ look better to Jamie) and then take it back in the reunion? I think what you describe as verbal diarrhea is unskilled lying, either to Jamie or on the aftershow.
I believe that the vast majority of the current crop of challengers is inauthentic, they're all playing up something for camera time. Sarah's goober, camp counselor persona, however much it may annoy you, is consistent throughout all of the media I've seen of her (podcasts, interviews, etc). Can you pinpoint what caused you to think her personality is contrived?
Also, scared game = smart game. Strategy is part of the challenge and why would you not eliminate your greastest competition?
Yes she lied in bloodlines, but part was editing and part was a sticky situation she put herself in. She made a mistake and owned up to it multiple times publically and privately. CM has congruent behavior. She's the same person on twitter, MTV, podcasts, videos, and I'd assume real life. What I mean by verbal diahrrhea is partly yes she is a bad liar. Most of the time she knows it. However, she also spews what she's thinking without knowing when not to speak a lot of the times.
I definitely think most of the current crop of challengers are just acting for the cameras, but they pretty much admit it. Unlike Sarah who tries to pretend that's who she really is. Even as annoying as Ashley is, I think a lot of it's an act...or I hope to god it is. Amanda makes me laugh because she clearly is acting like she does for the cameras, so you know not to take her seriously.
Sarah is a totally different person in podcasts on her earlier real world season,etc. Yes you should eliminte the strongest competitors, but not when they're on your team. She didn't start acting like a camp counselor until a few seasons in. Like cutthroat or after. In her podcasts she doesn't act like a camp counselor. If she were consistently like that I would actually like her. IMO she tries to mimic JB ain how he speaks in a very politically correct almost scripted way for the cameras as of the last couple of seasons. However, her voice pitch changes when she tries to do it and it just oozes of BS. In earlier seasons you saw genuine relationships between Sarah and some castmates. Once she finally won she became even more all about the game to me. Abram said it best on bloodlines. If you'll stab someone in the back there, you'll do it at home. If you have no regard for anyones feelings in the challenge even early on, you probably don't back home either. I think Abram's statement applies to CM too. The difference is Cara was genuinely sorry for her actions and Sarah is becoming more heartless with every challenge. Sarah faked an apology with JB just to win tears and all. Then trash talks him consistently. That's why I don't like her.
They're bringing GUTS back? Why the **** did they ask Jenna of all people? Was Cara Maria or Laurel not available? Like I'm so lost when it comes to this Plank shit...
Because Jenna is queen and in high demand #MADORNAH
I've never heard of any castmember admitting to their fake confessional personas so I don't think it's fair to pinpoint Sarah for that (though I will definitely agree that it's fake). When I said her camp councelor attitude before I meant how passionate she gets about nerdy things (which is evident on brain candy) and not specifically her confessionals. Apparently she literally put Simone into the most recent elim for littering. I also don't agree with Abram that stabbing someone in the back on a challenge (especially Johnny) is indicative of real life morality.
It seems like I have to rewatch some of her earlier stuff to see the castmate interactions/personality change you're talking about; I've been wanting to see Ruins again but Brooklyn is such a chore.
why not?
With the exception of the religious contestants of yore (like jon brennan) who actively tried to change it, people know that the challenge environment is rife with manipulation and back stabbing. When you sign up for a game like this and accept this as the norm, I believe that adapting to that environment and behaving in a way that raises your likelihood of winning (especially for those that arent elite competitors) is okay because everybody else has signed up for the same thing. All of the new people have done their research and watched some earlier seasons.
I realize back-stabbing is a broad term so let me specify that I wont apply this to family members or real life bffs on the same challenge (unless you've discussed that you're willing to throw each other under the bus to win the ultimate prize beforehand) because those relationships are built with real-world rules. Not sacrificing yourself to help a challenge buddy is reasonable though, imo. I hope this makes sense, I am having a gnarly caffeine crash rn.
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Probably not for long, but I guess she can say it for now.
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