It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
Seven games and that strategy hasn't worked. It's time for him to switch it up.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
which is why I said, it'd be better if they included stronger cast members. But they are great for now since they add a fresher mentality instead of just blindly following Johnny's possie. If this was FM style voiting, MAYBE, just MAYBE, AYTO could have more chances to throw in RW.
But..they don't even DO anything. They're all just there. Don't see how that's a fresh mentality.
They do. They don't want RW to win. But they can't since they suck. Which is why AYTO needs people that are a physical pressence to be able to do something other than just want to take RW out.
I don't get them not wanting as a whole to win...Well maybe Amanda and Simone but the rest of them? No.
It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
...And how has that strategy worked out for him?
He's made finals, the past 2 seasons he was eliminated early. But in all honesty since Leroy's started challenges only like 8 guys have a won. Everyone plays the game differently. Him not winning isn't because of his alliances with Bananas... It's because someone else beat him on final missions.
It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
Seven games and that strategy hasn't worked. It's time for him to switch it up.
I don't think he's always had that strategy, in fact it wasn't until Exes 2(Or free agents) that he even mentioned it. Leroy is clearly feared as a competitor, he just isn't conditioned enough for the finals.
TheKorean wrote:It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
...And how has that strategy worked out for him?
He's made finals, the past 2 seasons he was eliminated early. But in all honesty since Leroy's started challenges only like 8 guys have a won. Everyone plays the game differently. Him not winning isn't because of his alliances with Bananas... It's because someone else beat him on final missions.
So don't you think that maybe he should start eliminating the guys that can beat him?
And I honestly don't see the problem with voting in friends. It's a game for money...you gotta do what you have to do to get to the end and win. If you're really good friends then this shouldn't even be an issue.
That's problem with these people...they're all so chmmy with each other that noone really plays the game and does what they need to do because of that. This problem wouldn't exist(or be lessened) if they'd stop casting the same people every show.
TheKorean wrote:It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
Seven games and that strategy hasn't worked. It's time for him to switch it up.
I don't think he's always had that strategy, in fact it wasn't until Exes 2(Or free agents) that he even mentioned it. Leroy is clearly feared as a competitor, he just isn't conditioned enough for the finals.
He's as good as he's gonna get for the finals. He needs to cut the people who are better than him. That's it.
When are we going to get a big team challenge again. Tired of the pair team every single challenge and the restrictions for the cast who can be chosen plus we get just 2 winners... usally its the same winners too.
give us old school vs new school... I know most of the old schoolers are too old or moved on so we can classify old school from key west to like fresh meat 2
give us an all star season with 2 teams of all winners
When are we going to get a big team challenge again. Tired of the pair team every single challenge and the restrictions for the cast who can be chosen plus we get just 2 winners... usally its the same winners too.give us old school vs new school... I know most of the old schoolers are too old or moved on so we can classify old school from key west to like fresh meat 2give us an all star season with 2 teams of all winners just give the pair seasons a 1 or 2 break please.
When are we going to get a big team challenge again. Tired of the pair team every single challenge and the restrictions for the cast who can be chosen plus we get just 2 winners... usally its the same winners too.give us old school vs new school... I know most of the old schoolers are too old or moved on so we can classify old school from key west to like fresh meat 2give us an all star season with 2 teams of all winners just give the pair seasons a 1 or 2 break please.
It seems like yalls definition of Leroy playing the game is him backstabbing Johnny. Which wouldn't make any sense considering they're friends/allies. Leroy's idea of playing the game is staying under the radar, which is a strategy used to PLAY THE GAME!
Seven games and that strategy hasn't worked. It's time for him to switch it up.
And I honestly don't see the problem with voting in friends. It's a game for money...you gotta do what you have to do to get to the end and win. If you're really good friends then this shouldn't even be an issue.That's problem with these people...they're all so chmmy with each other that noone really plays the game and does what they need to do because of that. This problem wouldn't exist(or be lessened) if they'd stop casting the same people every show.
i agree. thats why i didnt see the issue with cory voting in thomas. like yall there to win money! you both cant come in first place
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
why would they grow in bananas/Sarah against Johnny/Jess? That'd be a big stupid move instead of big move.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
which is why I said, it'd be better if they included stronger cast members. But they are great for now since they add a fresher mentality instead of just blindly following Johnny's possie. If this was FM style voiting, MAYBE, just MAYBE, AYTO could have more chances to throw in RW.
But..they don't even DO anything. They're all just there. Don't see how that's a fresh mentality.
They do. They don't want RW to win. But they can't since they suck. Which is why AYTO needs people that are a physical pressence to be able to do something other than just want to take RW out.
I don't get them not wanting as a whole to win...Well maybe Amanda and Simone but the rest of them? No.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
why would they grow in bananas/Sarah against Johnny/Jess? That'd be a big stupid move instead of big move.
So just wait until a good team gets last is the best option?? Anything can happen in eliminations. At least you're making them work for their spot instead of just cruising until the 2nd half of the show.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
It would've been dumb as shit for them to throw in Backpack. Not only would they beat Johnny/Jessica easily but you **** them off and there's a high chance they win a challenge so they can easily return the favor. It. Wasn't a matter of being scared...it's a matter of being smart.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
which is why I said, it'd be better if they included stronger cast members. But they are great for now since they add a fresher mentality instead of just blindly following Johnny's possie. If this was FM style voiting, MAYBE, just MAYBE, AYTO could have more chances to throw in RW.
But..they don't even DO anything. They're all just there. Don't see how that's a fresh mentality.
They do. They don't want RW to win. But they can't since they suck. Which is why AYTO needs people that are a physical pressence to be able to do something other than just want to take RW out.
I don't get them not wanting as a whole to win...Well maybe Amanda and Simone but the rest of them? No.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
It would've been dumb as shit for them to throw in Backpack. Not only would they beat Johnny/Jessica easily but you **** them off and there's a high chance they win a challenge so they can easily return the favor. It. Wasn't a matter of being scared...it's a matter of being smart.
It's dumb just leaving him and Wes there untouched. You have to take a stab at them sooner or later. They're not gonna be losing challenges forever. And on top of that, they have solid 100% allies in their family members(Vince and Nicole) but you throw your best friend and another rookie team in?? If that's not playing scared then I don't know what is.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
It would've been dumb as shit for them to throw in Backpack. Not only would they beat Johnny/Jessica easily but you **** them off and there's a high chance they win a challenge so they can easily return the favor. It. Wasn't a matter of being scared...it's a matter of being smart.
It's dumb just leaving him and Wes there untouched. You have to take a stab at them sooner or later. They're not gonna be losing challenges forever. And on top of that, they have solid 100% allies in their family members(Vince and Nicole) but you throw your best friend and another rookie team in?? If that's not playing scared then I don't know what is.
So you think they should've just pointlessly put a target on their back? Really? When it comes to taking out Backpack you have got to be Smart about it. You don't just throw anyone up against him with the hope of "anything happening" that's dumb. Look at Jordan on Free Agents..he went about taking him out stupidly and look what happened. But Sarah did it right on Exes 2..She threw him in when a strong team got last and it was someone who can legit take him and won't throw it. THAT'S how you do it. Sending in Backpack against a dysfunctional team who aren't that strong is stupid.
And I wouldn't say Cory sending in Thomas was scared. It was stupid if anything. He should have put his foot down with her and sent in a non-castmember team.
brett wrote:Voting has just gotten too predictable. Everyone is too scared to make a big move early on. Once they finally do is always too late.Forget about leroy being bananas *****.... the biggest ***** is vince. I know they are cousins but his *** should know with johnny there, he is going to always get 2nd place.Bunim and murray you dont even have to stop casting the same people, just let bananas take a 2/3 season break. Even wes and ct take breaks. Just so we can let other people win. I swear if johhny comes back next season after he supposedly wins Im done.
This! I'm so tired of this. I wish people would just have the balls and vote in Bananas early. I would rather try and get rid of some of the big players early. But people are too scared of having "targets" on their back. When in reality they already have one on their back.
Which is why the inclusion of AYTO is great, but better served if they have cast members that can actually compete.
How is it great? They can't even compete and even if they could they'd be just as scared to throw in Backpack.
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
It would've been dumb as shit for them to throw in Backpack. Not only would they beat Johnny/Jessica easily but you **** them off and there's a high chance they win a challenge so they can easily return the favor. It. Wasn't a matter of being scared...it's a matter of being smart.
It's dumb just leaving him and Wes there untouched. You have to take a stab at them sooner or later. They're not gonna be losing challenges forever. And on top of that, they have solid 100% allies in their family members(Vince and Nicole) but you throw your best friend and another rookie team in?? If that's not playing scared then I don't know what is.
So you think they should've just pointlessly put a target on their back? Really? When it comes to taking out Backpack you have got to be Smart about it. You don't just throw anyone up against him with the hope of "anything happening" that's dumb. Look at Jordan on Free Agents..he went about taking him out stupidly and look what happened. But Sarah did it right on Exes 2..She threw him in when a strong team got last and it was someone who can legit take him and won't throw it. THAT'S how you do it. Sending in Backpack against a dysfunctional team who aren't that strong is stupid. And I wouldn't say Cory sending in Thomas was scared. It was stupid if anything. He should have put his foot down with her and sent in a non-castmember team.
Jordan threw himself into the elimination. That was stupid. That's not what I'm talking about. Bananas and Sarah are a great team. I don't think any team there can take them out, however, by sending them in as much as possible you're increasing their chances of losing. By not sending them in, they are 100% safe. By waiting for Vince and Jenna to get last, and for one of those other teams to actually beat out B/S and win the power couple to send them in against each other is a far risky strategy imo.
Seven games and that strategy hasn't worked. It's time for him to switch it up.
I don't get them not wanting as a whole to win...Well maybe Amanda and Simone but the rest of them? No.
...And how has that strategy worked out for him?
He's made finals, the past 2 seasons he was eliminated early. But in all honesty since Leroy's started challenges only like 8 guys have a won. Everyone plays the game differently. Him not winning isn't because of his alliances with Bananas... It's because someone else beat him on final missions.
I don't think he's always had that strategy, in fact it wasn't until Exes 2(Or free agents) that he even mentioned it. Leroy is clearly feared as a competitor, he just isn't conditioned enough for the finals.
All I'm saying is Bananas isn't the reason why Leroy hasn't won. If anything Bananas helps Leroy more than hurts him.
So don't you think that maybe he should start eliminating the guys that can beat him?
Noone said that in the first place though.
And I honestly don't see the problem with voting in friends. It's a game for money...you gotta do what you have to do to get to the end and win. If you're really good friends then this shouldn't even be an issue.
That's problem with these people...they're all so chmmy with each other that noone really plays the game and does what they need to do because of that. This problem wouldn't exist(or be lessened) if they'd stop casting the same people every show.
He's as good as he's gonna get for the finals. He needs to cut the people who are better than him. That's it.
Leroy sucks at swimming all new school finals have swimming when swimming is involved he gets so far behind it is hard for him to catch up
When are we going to get a big team challenge again. Tired of the pair team every single challenge and the restrictions for the cast who can be chosen plus we get just 2 winners... usally its the same winners too.
give us old school vs new school... I know most of the old schoolers are too old or moved on so we can classify old school from key west to like fresh meat 2
give us an all star season with 2 teams of all winners
just give the pair seasons a 1 or 2 break please.
soon they will do AYTO vs RW
God I hope not.
i agree. thats why i didnt see the issue with cory voting in thomas. like yall there to win money! you both cant come in first place
those pictures are tweaked in some way. her body looks OK but her face is very very manly
Well a RW team won last episode and they were too scared to throw Backpack in... so does it really matter what show these people come from? All across the board, we need better people. AYTO and RW.
why would they grow in bananas/Sarah against Johnny/Jess? That'd be a big stupid move instead of big move.
What do you mean by 'as a whole'? As in RW?
So just wait until a good team gets last is the best option?? Anything can happen in eliminations. At least you're making them work for their spot instead of just cruising until the 2nd half of the show.
When AYTO people do enough Challenges to be considered Vets I wonder will they still be thrown in eliminations first or not...
It would've been dumb as shit for them to throw in Backpack. Not only would they beat Johnny/Jessica easily but you **** them off and there's a high chance they win a challenge so they can easily return the favor. It. Wasn't a matter of being scared...it's a matter of being smart.
I meant as them wanting one of their own to win.
It's dumb just leaving him and Wes there untouched. You have to take a stab at them sooner or later. They're not gonna be losing challenges forever. And on top of that, they have solid 100% allies in their family members(Vince and Nicole) but you throw your best friend and another rookie team in?? If that's not playing scared then I don't know what is.
Most likely. People just don't like them lol
I don't think so. I think new AYTO and RW will be getting thrown in before the older AYTO.
So you think they should've just pointlessly put a target on their back? Really? When it comes to taking out Backpack you have got to be Smart about it. You don't just throw anyone up against him with the hope of "anything happening" that's dumb. Look at Jordan on Free Agents..he went about taking him out stupidly and look what happened. But Sarah did it right on Exes 2..She threw him in when a strong team got last and it was someone who can legit take him and won't throw it. THAT'S how you do it. Sending in Backpack against a dysfunctional team who aren't that strong is stupid.
And I wouldn't say Cory sending in Thomas was scared. It was stupid if anything. He should have put his foot down with her and sent in a non-castmember team.
Jordan threw himself into the elimination. That was stupid. That's not what I'm talking about. Bananas and Sarah are a great team. I don't think any team there can take them out, however, by sending them in as much as possible you're increasing their chances of losing. By not sending them in, they are 100% safe. By waiting for Vince and Jenna to get last, and for one of those other teams to actually beat out B/S and win the power couple to send them in against each other is a far risky strategy imo.
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