The Challenge: The Future (Hopes / Spoilers)

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still hating

If you want to call it that, sure. Or someone who actually likes to watch good tv. But we can agree to disagree. 

What did tony do?

Shit on his pants, get butt naked and sleep in Jess bed with her. While they were flirting and laughing. 

Not the same at all of what Vinny and Nia did. Those two scenarios are completely different.

bluehatchet2 wrote:

still hating

If you want to call it that, sure. Or someone who actually likes to watch good tv. But we can agree to disagree. 

You tuning into MTV for good tv? Tuh. That's what they got GOT for. 

The preview for the next episode showed up as soon as I got on Youtube & the name caught me, so I watched it......lmaooooooo when the **** did Tony get so live & where was this Tony on Skeletons? Bruno NEEDS to be on a season with this new Tony; the world needs it.

"You were on a bullshit ******* dating show, *******!! You dumb ************!!"

Even though Tony is probably one of the last people on the planet to call somebody a *******, he didn't tell any lies & said what a lot of people have been thinking. The RW v.s. AYTO (and AYTO on the show in general) debate is not just on here + social media. A lot of the cast also feels the same way for the most part so why don't they say anything to the producers about it?

Where i'm at now is that AS LONG AS the newer RW'ers get their time to shine, it's whatever with the AYTO people. Honestly, Challenge 29 needs a BIG cast.....as in BOTSexes big. That way they can have at least 5-6 each of Skeletons/GBOGH & 3-4 each of St. Thomas through Ex-Plosion. Then if they want, they can have their 6-8 AYTO people as well. I will have a problem again if the newer RW seasons still don't get proper reps.

At this point, I'm over it. The Challenge has lost its worth. Like all this getting drunk and screaming shit, hooking up with people you never talk to again is all a ploy for some of these people to get on another show, especially the AYTO kids considering they are already in the minority and everyone hates them but newsflash, that's not how you go about it. Show up and compete and make a name for yourself the way Adam K. and kinda Brittany did. This shit Amanda, Simone, and Christina (tried to do last season and failed and now she sits and does nothing) is not working and making people hate y'all even more. Like no one wants AYTO on the show because I think more and more people, specifically the real world people want to compete and compete against the best each season and these kids are not the best and not even close. So it takes the fun out of things. They just cause problems. Bananas, Leroy, Sarah, Cara Maria, Nia, Zach, even Camila and many more made names for themselves by not arguing with people while they were drunk and making fools out themselves but for competing and playing the game. Figuring out how to make it far and for that I see why they are still on the show and asked every season. These new kids don't get that. I doubt any of them are really trying to win. Just there to get camera time. The fact that "getting camera time" even came up last night is a sign that this show is going downhill. And the fact that Bananas has the only real rival after 13 seasons of this shit is tragic but he comes to compete and not show out and for that he is where he is and these people are where they are, forgettable. Rivals III is just about being shit face. No gameplay no nothing. That dinner would have been wayyyy better had the winning team picked 2 teams for dinner. So you could have seen some game drama. Alliances being formed. Something they should really start incorporating each season instead of those dinners at the house. You could see teams throwing each other under the bus upfront and it could really make for some interesting decisions. They have all these twist and continue to focus on bullshit. So what's the point of the twist? They are suppose to increase gameplay but how when you don't even focus on that. Instead we get some random ***** with freckles yelling about nothing for 5 minutes and getting no response back. I liked Free Agents and especially Exes 2 because it was all about the game and making to the end by all means. All that extra shit was cut or didn't even happen. People came to play. Bloodlines had some good gameplay drama too. It was pretty much all gameplay it just lacked that Bloodlines interaction. Had the teams been Alumni vs. Bloodlines though, that season could have been everything! 

Wait what? Cara always *****ed and cried being drunk. Nia is Nia, Camilla and her Camilantor for her drunk antics. Yes, they have all competed, but I wouldn't say they JUST made a name for themselves by competing. Their drunk debauchery helped in that too.

But I do agree, I've never cared for senseless drama, because it's senseless. And even the senseless drama isn't funny or humorous like in the older seasons, were at least you got a laugh out of the dumb shit poeple said. These fights are a drunken mess that has you just starting blankily at a tv screen trying to figure out what happened in the first place.

I don't solely blam AYTO for this issue.

badladjj wrote:

At this point, I'm over it. The Challenge has lost its worth. Like all this getting drunk and screaming shit, hooking up with people you never talk to again is all a ploy for some of these people to get on another show, especially the AYTO kids considering they are already in the minority and everyone hates them but newsflash, that's not how you go about it. Show up and compete and make a name for yourself the way Adam K. and kinda Brittany did. This shit Amanda, Simone, and Christina (tried to do last season and failed and now she sits and does nothing) is not working and making people hate y'all even more. Like no one wants AYTO on the show because I think more and more people, specifically the real world people want to compete and compete against the best each season and these kids are not the best and not even close. So it takes the fun out of things. They just cause problems. Bananas, Leroy, Sarah, Cara Maria, Nia, Zach, even Camila and many more made names for themselves by not arguing with people while they were drunk and making fools out themselves but for competing and playing the game. Figuring out how to make it far and for that I see why they are still on the show and asked every season. These new kids don't get that. I doubt any of them are really trying to win. Just there to get camera time. The fact that "getting camera time" even came up last night is a sign that this show is going downhill. And the fact that Bananas has the only real rival after 13 seasons of this shit is tragic but he comes to compete and not show out and for that he is where he is and these people are where they are, forgettable. Rivals III is just about being shit face. No gameplay no nothing. That dinner would have been wayyyy better had the winning team picked 2 teams for dinner. So you could have seen some game drama. Alliances being formed. Something they should really start incorporating each season instead of those dinners at the house. You could see teams throwing each other under the bus upfront and it could really make for some interesting decisions. They have all these twist and continue to focus on bullshit. So what's the point of the twist? They are suppose to increase gameplay but how when you don't even focus on that. Instead we get some random ***** with freckles yelling about nothing for 5 minutes and getting no response back. I liked Free Agents and especially Exes 2 because it was all about the game and making to the end by all means. All that extra shit was cut or didn't even happen. People came to play. Bloodlines had some good gameplay drama too. It was pretty much all gameplay it just lacked that Bloodlines interaction. Had the teams been Alumni vs. Bloodlines though, that season could have been everything! 

Wait what? Cara always *****ed and cried being drunk. Nia is Nia, Camilla and her Camilantor for her drunk antics. Yes, they have all competed, but I wouldn't say they JUST made a name for themselves by competing. Their drunk debauchery helped in that too.But I do agree, I've never cared for senseless drama, because it's senseless. And even the senseless drama isn't funny or humorous like in the older seasons, were at least you got a laugh out of the dumb shit poeple said. These fights are a drunken mess that has you just starting blankily at a tv screen trying to figure out what happened in the first place.I don't solely blam AYTO for this issue.

I agree with you there. If you look at the older seasons there was some sensless drama but atleast the shit was either funny or entertaining. Nowadays it's just...nothing. All it is is just people pathetically showing their ***** so they can get a call back for another season. It's nothing interesting or memorable.

richjoe92 wrote:

badladjj wrote:At this point, I'm over it. The Challenge has lost its worth. Like all this getting drunk and screaming shit, hooking up with people you never talk to again is all a ploy for some of these people to get on another show, especially the AYTO kids considering they are already in the minority and everyone hates them but newsflash, that's not how you go about it. Show up and compete and make a name for yourself the way Adam K. and kinda Brittany did. This shit Amanda, Simone, and Christina (tried to do last season and failed and now she sits and does nothing) is not working and making people hate y'all even more. Like no one wants AYTO on the show because I think more and more people, specifically the real world people want to compete and compete against the best each season and these kids are not the best and not even close. So it takes the fun out of things. They just cause problems. Bananas, Leroy, Sarah, Cara Maria, Nia, Zach, even Camila and many more made names for themselves by not arguing with people while they were drunk and making fools out themselves but for competing and playing the game. Figuring out how to make it far and for that I see why they are still on the show and asked every season. These new kids don't get that. I doubt any of them are really trying to win. Just there to get camera time. The fact that "getting camera time" even came up last night is a sign that this show is going downhill. And the fact that Bananas has the only real rival after 13 seasons of this shit is tragic but he comes to compete and not show out and for that he is where he is and these people are where they are, forgettable. Rivals III is just about being shit face. No gameplay no nothing. That dinner would have been wayyyy better had the winning team picked 2 teams for dinner. So you could have seen some game drama. Alliances being formed. Something they should really start incorporating each season instead of those dinners at the house. You could see teams throwing each other under the bus upfront and it could really make for some interesting decisions. They have all these twist and continue to focus on bullshit. So what's the point of the twist? They are suppose to increase gameplay but how when you don't even focus on that. Instead we get some random ***** with freckles yelling about nothing for 5 minutes and getting no response back. I liked Free Agents and especially Exes 2 because it was all about the game and making to the end by all means. All that extra shit was cut or didn't even happen. People came to play. Bloodlines had some good gameplay drama too. It was pretty much all gameplay it just lacked that Bloodlines interaction. Had the teams been Alumni vs. Bloodlines though, that season could have been everything! 

Wait what? Cara always *****ed and cried being drunk. Nia is Nia, Camilla and her Camilantor for her drunk antics. Yes, they have all competed, but I wouldn't say they JUST made a name for themselves by competing. Their drunk debauchery helped in that too.But I do agree, I've never cared for senseless drama, because it's senseless. And even the senseless drama isn't funny or humorous like in the older seasons, were at least you got a laugh out of the dumb shit poeple said. These fights are a drunken mess that has you just starting blankily at a tv screen trying to figure out what happened in the first place.I don't solely blam AYTO for this issue.

I agree with you there. If you look at the older seasons there was some sensless drama but atleast the shit was either funny or entertaining. Nowadays it's just...nothing. All it is is just people pathetically showing their ***** so they can get a call back for another season. It's nothing interesting or memorable.

I'd like to fault themes like Rivals and Exes for this moreso than the cast members. It enables people to act stupid(er) so they can get on these themed seasons.

Watching the last two challenge seasons, the last three real worlds and AYTO  ... I hope the producers  realise that they have a really good pool of people for the challenge that are fresh and new. They should definitely start focussing on these people. The challenge needs fresh feuds, drama, people.I would say make the next challenge season random theme... Cutthroat or Free Agents/ Redemption,  but make it like "the biggest cast we have ever had ... like 36 people on it". It's time that they leave at least another season for Exes and there is literally no reason for another Bloodlines 2, they have enough people to use....

Debut Album wrote:

richjoe92 wrote:

badladjj wrote:At this point, I'm over it. The Challenge has lost its worth. Like all this getting drunk and screaming shit, hooking up with people you never talk to again is all a ploy for some of these people to get on another show, especially the AYTO kids considering they are already in the minority and everyone hates them but newsflash, that's not how you go about it. Show up and compete and make a name for yourself the way Adam K. and kinda Brittany did. This shit Amanda, Simone, and Christina (tried to do last season and failed and now she sits and does nothing) is not working and making people hate y'all even more. Like no one wants AYTO on the show because I think more and more people, specifically the real world people want to compete and compete against the best each season and these kids are not the best and not even close. So it takes the fun out of things. They just cause problems. Bananas, Leroy, Sarah, Cara Maria, Nia, Zach, even Camila and many more made names for themselves by not arguing with people while they were drunk and making fools out themselves but for competing and playing the game. Figuring out how to make it far and for that I see why they are still on the show and asked every season. These new kids don't get that. I doubt any of them are really trying to win. Just there to get camera time. The fact that "getting camera time" even came up last night is a sign that this show is going downhill. And the fact that Bananas has the only real rival after 13 seasons of this shit is tragic but he comes to compete and not show out and for that he is where he is and these people are where they are, forgettable. Rivals III is just about being shit face. No gameplay no nothing. That dinner would have been wayyyy better had the winning team picked 2 teams for dinner. So you could have seen some game drama. Alliances being formed. Something they should really start incorporating each season instead of those dinners at the house. You could see teams throwing each other under the bus upfront and it could really make for some interesting decisions. They have all these twist and continue to focus on bullshit. So what's the point of the twist? They are suppose to increase gameplay but how when you don't even focus on that. Instead we get some random ***** with freckles yelling about nothing for 5 minutes and getting no response back. I liked Free Agents and especially Exes 2 because it was all about the game and making to the end by all means. All that extra shit was cut or didn't even happen. People came to play. Bloodlines had some good gameplay drama too. It was pretty much all gameplay it just lacked that Bloodlines interaction. Had the teams been Alumni vs. Bloodlines though, that season could have been everything! 

Wait what? Cara always *****ed and cried being drunk. Nia is Nia, Camilla and her Camilantor for her drunk antics. Yes, they have all competed, but I wouldn't say they JUST made a name for themselves by competing. Their drunk debauchery helped in that too.But I do agree, I've never cared for senseless drama, because it's senseless. And even the senseless drama isn't funny or humorous like in the older seasons, were at least you got a laugh out of the dumb shit poeple said. These fights are a drunken mess that has you just starting blankily at a tv screen trying to figure out what happened in the first place.I don't solely blam AYTO for this issue.

I agree with you there. If you look at the older seasons there was some sensless drama but atleast the shit was either funny or entertaining. Nowadays it's just...nothing. All it is is just people pathetically showing their ***** so they can get a call back for another season. It's nothing interesting or memorable.

I'd like to fault themes like Rivals and Exes for this moreso than the cast members. It enables people to act stupid(er) so they can get on these themed seasons.

Another reason why they need to cut this theme shit out...

Watching the last two challenge seasons, the last three real worlds and AYTO  ... I hope the producers  realise that they have a really good pool of people for the challenge that are fresh and new. They should definitely start focussing on these people. The challenge needs fresh feuds, drama, people.I would say make the next challenge season random theme... Cutthroat or Free Agents/ Redemption,  but make it like "the biggest cast we have ever had ... like 36 people on it". It's time that they leave at least another season for Exes and there is literally no reason for another Bloodlines 2, they have enough people to use....

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that.

But I agree with your post though.

BMP should give a try to The Real World vs Are You The Trash?. So, people can finally quit that "best show" drama.

Watching the last two challenge seasons, the last three real worlds and AYTO  ... I hope the producers  realise that they have a really good pool of people for the challenge that are fresh and new. They should definitely start focussing on these people. The challenge needs fresh feuds, drama, people.I would say make the next challenge season random theme... Cutthroat or Free Agents/ Redemption,  but make it like "the biggest cast we have ever had ... like 36 people on it". It's time that they leave at least another season for Exes and there is literally no reason for another Bloodlines 2, they have enough people to use....

It's a reality show I don't know how anyone expects these people to focus mainly on competing. First of all they were chosen to be on these shows for their dramatics not their athletic ability and second producers focus more and thrive more on the in house drama as opposed to actual competing. It's a reality show viewers watch for the drama. I like seeing people compete well but I also like seeing the drama so I'm fine with the current balance of it all. 

It's a reality show I don't know how anyone expects these people to focus mainly on competing. First of all they were chosen to be on these shows for their dramatics not their athletic ability and second producers focus more and thrive more on the in house drama as opposed to actual competing. It's a reality show viewers watch for the drama. I like seeing people compete well but I also like seeing the drama so I'm fine with the current balance of it all. 

I don't think anyone expects them to focus soley on the competition. I think people just want more of a balance and this season is leaning a bit more on the drama side of things.

KChallenge10 wrote:

It's a reality show I don't know how anyone expects these people to focus mainly on competing. First of all they were chosen to be on these shows for their dramatics not their athletic ability and second producers focus more and thrive more on the in house drama as opposed to actual competing. It's a reality show viewers watch for the drama. I like seeing people compete well but I also like seeing the drama so I'm fine with the current balance of it all. 

I don't think anyone expects them to focus soley on the competition. I think people just want more of a balance and this season is leaning a bit more on the drama side of things.

Eh I don't mind it. I think with The Leroy injury and skipping elimination it made it not seem like the regular challenge so people are freaking out but it'll prob be back to normal next week. Wasn't everyone asking for "Character development" and all this other stuff? To me the balance is fine with no elimination they needed to fill the time with more drama.

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:It's a reality show I don't know how anyone expects these people to focus mainly on competing. First of all they were chosen to be on these shows for their dramatics not their athletic ability and second producers focus more and thrive more on the in house drama as opposed to actual competing. It's a reality show viewers watch for the drama. I like seeing people compete well but I also like seeing the drama so I'm fine with the current balance of it all. 

I don't think anyone expects them to focus soley on the competition. I think people just want more of a balance and this season is leaning a bit more on the drama side of things.

Eh I don't mind it. I think with The Leroy injury and skipping elimination it made it not seem like the regular challenge so people are freaking out but it'll prob be back to normal next week. Wasn't everyone asking for "Character development" and all this other stuff? To me the balance is fine with no elimination they needed to fill the time with more drama.

I don't mind it either. I'm enjoying is a bit. My thing is is that along with RW'ers getting the focus(which is fine) AYTO is also getting some of that. Like I'd rather see people like Dustin/Latoya/Buno/Sylvia/Marlon/Jason get this screentime rather than pathetic tryhards like Simone and Amanda.

for rivals 3, i feel they shouldve cast nelson/amanda and nate/christina to bring the drama for ayto, and replaced brandon/bri and simone/thomas with two strong teams. so theres two teams to bring the drama and two strong teams who will compete and give these rw'ers a run for their money. i hate that their the automatic target every episode and if they cast teams who have potential at winning challenges, they could flip the game. 

I hope next season isn't Exes 3 because  I need CeeJai and Kailah to debut first from GBGH since they are no longer friends plus I doubt Bruno would do Exes 3 with Sylvia and we need her on as well. #RealWorldVsAYTO

I hope next season isn't Exes 3 because  I need CeeJai and Kailah to debut first from GBGH since they are no longer friends plus I doubt Bruno would do Exes 3 with Sylvia and we need her on as well. #RealWorldVsAYTO

Bruno has Ashley K. from San Diego, she's a good competitor but boring af.

Kailah has her entire castmates as possible partners #***********

If it is a 'versus AYTO' challenge, I hope they dilute the amount by making it cutthroat style and having the other team be FM/Bloodlines, cause if everyone from AYTO is like Amanda and Simone, I can see this shit being annoying.

KChallenge10 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:It's a reality show I don't know how anyone expects these people to focus mainly on competing. First of all they were chosen to be on these shows for their dramatics not their athletic ability and second producers focus more and thrive more on the in house drama as opposed to actual competing. It's a reality show viewers watch for the drama. I like seeing people compete well but I also like seeing the drama so I'm fine with the current balance of it all. 

I don't think anyone expects them to focus soley on the competition. I think people just want more of a balance and this season is leaning a bit more on the drama side of things.

Eh I don't mind it. I think with The Leroy injury and skipping elimination it made it not seem like the regular challenge so people are freaking out but it'll prob be back to normal next week. Wasn't everyone asking for "Character development" and all this other stuff? To me the balance is fine with no elimination they needed to fill the time with more drama.

I don't mind it either. I'm enjoying is a bit. My thing is is that along with RW'ers getting the focus(which is fine) AYTO is also getting some of that. Like I'd rather see people like Dustin/Latoya/Buno/Sylvia/Marlon/Jason get this screentime rather than pathetic tryhards like Simone and Amanda.

Amanda is crazy and I love it and from your names most of them declined or couldn't come on this season (Dustin). New Real World people usually get the focus too as well as AYTO people. Look at Ashley and Tony this season. 

I've kinda shifted my view on a RW v.s. AYTO....I feel like the RW team needs to be ALL rookies & some 3-Challenge vets to really work. Otherwise its just The Ruins part 2 bc they're probably not asking the actual competitors from AYTO to ever appear.

WittyWrath wrote:

I hope next season isn't Exes 3 because  I need CeeJai and Kailah to debut first from GBGH since they are no longer friends plus I doubt Bruno would do Exes 3 with Sylvia and we need her on as well. #RealWorldVsAYTO

Bruno has Ashley K. from San Diego, she's a good competitor but boring af.

Kailah has her entire castmates as possible partners #***********

Ashley K. has messed with that lunatic? 

Debut Album wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:It's a reality show I don't know how anyone expects these people to focus mainly on competing. First of all they were chosen to be on these shows for their dramatics not their athletic ability and second producers focus more and thrive more on the in house drama as opposed to actual competing. It's a reality show viewers watch for the drama. I like seeing people compete well but I also like seeing the drama so I'm fine with the current balance of it all. 

I don't think anyone expects them to focus soley on the competition. I think people just want more of a balance and this season is leaning a bit more on the drama side of things.

Eh I don't mind it. I think with The Leroy injury and skipping elimination it made it not seem like the regular challenge so people are freaking out but it'll prob be back to normal next week. Wasn't everyone asking for "Character development" and all this other stuff? To me the balance is fine with no elimination they needed to fill the time with more drama.

RIGHT, this is what all I heard last season & now that we got it, it just looks like more complaining again. smh like we'll have to getvthe competition/eliminations eventually so some of yall, like you wanted, be happy with the character development, like you wanted last season.

RobbKingo wrote:

WittyWrath wrote:I hope next season isn't Exes 3 because  I need CeeJai and Kailah to debut first from GBGH since they are no longer friends plus I doubt Bruno would do Exes 3 with Sylvia and we need her on as well. #RealWorldVsAYTO

Bruno has Ashley K. from San Diego, she's a good competitor but boring af.Kailah has her entire castmates as possible partners #***********

Ashley K. has messed with that lunatic? 

Yeah, she's a ********** magnet. They were together for like 2 months, it was during Skeletons airing time or a little bit later.

Next season would be a good time to do a Seasons II type cast, meaning majority of the cast is rookies who have done either one challenge or no challenges at all. Then the rest being vets and more so the newer vets. 

There are many cast members who need to debut from Skeletons and GBGH. Some Bloodlines need to return. Ex-Plosion has just been focused on Cory and Jenna and with Cory having a bad knee and Jenna needing a break, Brian and Jenny need a chance. Ashley needs to become a regular. Jay needs to come back as well. Jamie is also deserving of a chance. Portland cast needs to become more frequent regulars. So they need to be the focus next season. Aneesa, Bananas, CT, Cara Maria, Cohutta, and KellyAnne are pretty much the remaining old schoolers and all of them can stay gone tbh because I'm pretty sure most of them will return for an Exes 3. 

I feel like if they do RW vs ayto vs fm/bl then it would be a cast of 30, leaving only 5 guy spots and 5 girl spots on the rw team 

If RW vs AYTO does indeed happen, it'll likely be christened The Gauntlet. Gauntlet and Inferno are two titles MTV is looking to bring back among other planned revivals. Or so the rumor mill churns...

If RW vs AYTO does indeed happen, it'll likely be christened The Gauntlet. Gauntlet and Inferno are two titles MTV is looking to bring back among other planned revivals. Or so the rumor mill churns...

What's the other planned ones? I'm sure some form of BOTSexes would be a part of it.

So if they were to bring the Inferno back does that mean they cast only 20 people? 

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