audreyhorne wrote:This whole thing must be staged, I'm pretty sure Abram is acting for the cameras. If he is being himself, how the **** did he pass the psych test?
its not that hard to pass a psych test, especially,if you've done them before, you just give them the answers they are looking for. This relationship is toxic at best......
I mean Adam couldn't pass it. Abe's character is crazy and insane MTV won't she him normal. Cara moved to Montana to be with him and they have been together for 5 years, she recently mentioned she hopes they end up together so I doubt he was abusive to her. If you look at her YouTube page she has some everyday videos of her and Abe and he is 100% normal
Abusers have two faces, the public face-that everyone sees, the image you want people to see and then the other, darker side.....
Exactly. An abuser does not look like an abuser on a daily basis. Also, the abuse doesn't need to be physical. Emotional abuse (jelousy, belittling your significant other, threats, fear) is just as bad.
v123 hates Cara, I like her a lot, but recognize her flaws. Big difference. I believe she needs to love herself more. Even her friends say the same thing.
People say that Cara wants to be back with Abram, so it means he's not abusive. I'm saying most women in abusive relationships go back to their abuser because they have loe self esteem and they believe they don't deserve better.
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
Its obvious that their relationship is far from healthy.
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
They signed up for a reality show so we have the right to judge based on what we see. If they don't like it they can always stop returning.
Wait.... Abram abused Cara?Damn.... Crazy white boys... :/
no one said he abused her, what people are saying is has all the classic signs of an abusive relationship. And that their relationship is far from healthy
audreyhorne wrote:This whole thing must be staged, I'm pretty sure Abram is acting for the cameras. If he is being himself, how the **** did he pass the psych test?
its not that hard to pass a psych test, especially,if you've done them before, you just give them the answers they are looking for. This relationship is toxic at best......
I mean Adam couldn't pass it. Abe's character is crazy and insane MTV won't she him normal. Cara moved to Montana to be with him and they have been together for 5 years, she recently mentioned she hopes they end up together so I doubt he was abusive to her. If you look at her YouTube page she has some everyday videos of her and Abe and he is 100% normal
100% normal? The guy who throws his owm shit at people?
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
They signed up for a reality show so we have the right to judge based on what we see. If they don't like it they can always stop returning.
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
I don't have a good feeling about how this Abe/Cara stuff is gonna end. When it ends. Whatever way.
Oh and if Abe and John are on the reunion together (I don't think MTV will be dumb to invite Abram to it though) I don't even wanna know what will come out of it. One wrong look and there'll be another Bananas backpack.
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
She didn't call her fat. She said have you ever seen her workout and something about does it look like she works out. That's not saying she's fat, just out of shape. She also said it what she considered privately to her cousin. She's still new to the cameras at this point. Jenna isn't fat, but on this show doesn't look like she works out...now she does. Same could be said of the short Jessica on rivals 2. No matter how sweet a girl is, they call someone fat at some point. It's what we do. The way Vince talked to Camilla, that's calling someone fat rudely.
I'm going to respond to two at once since I'm having trouble finding this post after I signed in. The girls Jenna took out probably weren't even 100 pounds, giving Jenna too much credit there lol! Larissa's 4'10", she's gotta be under 100! Christina is super short and tiny too...I doubt shes 100 pounds.
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Challenge 17 wrote:Brianna sucks. Let's be real you only like her because she's Jenna's cousin. Jenna is way better than her.
I don't have a good feeling about how this Abe/Cara stuff is gonna end. When it ends. Whatever way.Oh and if Abe and John are on the reunion together (I don't think MTV will be dumb to invite Abram to it though) I don't even wanna know what will come out of it. One wrong look and there'll be another Bananas backpack.
abe will be there he almost made the end and people want to know what the status is with his and Cara and stuff. The only reason he dislikes bananas is because how he treats Cara. He even said it last week.
I like them together too, but it seems like it is really bad for them to be together. I do not think it is going to work out in a long run. I believe Abe will do better with someone very normal and down to earth. Cara can go ahead and sleep around, it seems like she did not have enough of that yet.
I don't have a good feeling about how this Abe/Cara stuff is gonna end. When it ends. Whatever way.Oh and if Abe and John are on the reunion together (I don't think MTV will be dumb to invite Abram to it though) I don't even wanna know what will come out of it. One wrong look and there'll be another Bananas backpack.
Won't happen Ct was on steroids and coke and Abe is crazy, but let's be real in bad physical condition.
People think because the way Abe acts sometimes that hes dangerous when in reality the most he has done is fought Donnell and Adam from RR. Sure he smeared feces on a wall but does that really make him dangerous? Also last time I checked Donnell was the one arrested for beating his teenage gf. Abe has always been intense. As for an abusive relationship? I've never seen Abe act abusively and talked to Cara in an abusive manner. And to the people saying "well abusers can hide that abusive side really well". Look at abe. Do you really think he's going to be able to hide that seeing the way he acts sometimes? He has always appeared to me that he wears his emotion on his sleaves making him an easy read. And if theres been one obvious thing about him its that he reacts very negatively to disrespect. With that said I fully expect him to flip his shit when he finds out about Cara. That doesn't neccessarily means hes going to hurt someone though. I always thought his and cara's problems stem from her insecurity and him being too intense and knowing exactly what he wants and her not so much. Of course this is all speculation.
v123 hates Cara, I like her a lot, but recognize her flaws. Big difference. I believe she needs to love herself more. Even her friends say the same thing.People say that Cara wants to be back with Abram, so it means he's not abusive. I'm saying most women in abusive relationships go back to their abuser because they have loe self esteem and they believe they don't deserve better.
there is no indication that abe is abusive towards cara maria in anyway. he can be aggressive to those outside of the relationship but sweet and sensitive towards cara herself. if anything cara is the one that is abusive; cheating on your partner can already be emotionally traumatizing to many people but on NATIONAL TV? REALLY? cheating on someone is shameful and humiliating enough to the victim on a communal and domestic level but cheating on TV brings it to a macrospheric NATIONAL and global scale. the abuser isnt the guy thats freaking out over this, it is instead the wicked witch of the west that shitted on his dignity and trust and manhood all the way to the east from the US to the netherlands to estonia or wherever else people are watching. cara maria is disgusting and if abe has any sort of honor he would kick her *** to the curb
From what I heard, Abram has done his share of sleeping around and cheating. Cara, not so much, not until Bloodlines. Again, this is what I heard, I don't know the full story about their relationship, but the word is Cara had not slept with anyone else since they've been together (5 years) until Bloodlines. Abram has slept with plenty of women duribg this time.
I do think Cara did this on purpose. If it's true that she kept messing aroung with Thomas when Abram was already there, I believe she wanted him to find out and see it. I suspect she was hurt herself about something else and wanted him to be hurt, too.
Also the house had go pros in random places. There was one in the bathroom so Shane Would make random videos and take selfies while going to the bathroom.
From what I heard, Abram has done his share of sleeping around and cheating. Cara, not so much, not until Bloodlines. Again, this is what I heard, I don't know the full story about their relationship, but the word is Cara had not slept with anyone else since they've been together (5 years) until Bloodlines. Abram has slept with plenty of women duribg this time.I do think Cara did this on purpose. If it's true that she kept messing aroung with Thomas when Abram was already there, I believe she wanted him to find out and see it. I suspect she was hurt herself about something else and wanted him to be hurt, too.That relationship is anything byt healthy.
Cara has yet to bring up " Abram cheating " in interviews or the show. If he had done that I think she would of used it by now to try to justify her actions. What you heard was probably started by some lame challenge Cara Maria fan.
From what I heard, Abram has done his share of sleeping around and cheating. Cara, not so much, not until Bloodlines. Again, this is what I heard, I don't know the full story about their relationship, but the word is Cara had not slept with anyone else since they've been together (5 years) until Bloodlines. Abram has slept with plenty of women duribg this time.I do think Cara did this on purpose. If it's true that she kept messing aroung with Thomas when Abram was already there, I believe she wanted him to find out and see it. I suspect she was hurt herself about something else and wanted him to be hurt, too.That relationship is anything byt healthy.
Cara has yet to bring up " Abram cheating " in interviews or the show. If he had done that I think she would of used it by now to try to justify her actions. What you heard was probably started by some lame challenge Cara Maria fan.
What she is referring to is when they were broken up and Cara Maria was having tizzy fits on twitter. Saying **** like " All you ****** who slept with Abram, you can have him" .. Coral actually got in on this during this time. Her and Abram would jokingly tweet back and forth, kinda flirt etc... Cara would tweet shade towards coral... Coral would promote Abrams art..etc.. then when he got back with Cara him and Coral stopped tweeting @ each other lol
You can't really say oh Abe slept with people when they broke up to make Cara jealous because let's be honest I am sure most people here slept around after a break up after a long term relationship mainly to make the other person jealous
Also since its been bugging me why is everyone so concerned over Abe calling bananas John?!?! He wasn't even bananas from a production standpoint till Reilly came on because they then had 2 johnnys. However if you guys remember back when ( real world season & duel) bananas was John and known as John so it isn't like nobody heard him called John before. It's like ct being called Chris
Abusers have two faces, the public face-that everyone sees, the image you want people to see and then the other, darker side.....
Exactly. An abuser does not look like an abuser on a daily basis. Also, the abuse doesn't need to be physical. Emotional abuse (jelousy, belittling your significant other, threats, fear) is just as bad.
And of course Cara says she hopes they end up together. She has very low self esteem, she's codependent, she thinks this is the love she deserves.
oh give me a break... she dug the hole. She was the wishy washy one from the start. Most relationships are toxic. FACT!
Are you v123?
v123 hates Cara, I like her a lot, but recognize her flaws. Big difference. I believe she needs to love herself more. Even her friends say the same thing.
People say that Cara wants to be back with Abram, so it means he's not abusive. I'm saying most women in abusive relationships go back to their abuser because they have loe self esteem and they believe they don't deserve better.
My thing is i don't think it's right for us to be judging their relationship when people here don't know what it is like off camera if someone like Cara friend, pink, or a reliable source would say it is toxic and abusive it's different but they aren't here and nobody know what there relationship is/was like.
Its obvious that their relationship is far from healthy.
Wait.... Abram abused Cara?
****.... Crazy white boys... :/
They signed up for a reality show so we have the right to judge based on what we see. If they don't like it they can always stop returning.
no one said he abused her, what people are saying is has all the classic signs of an abusive relationship. And that their relationship is far from healthy
100% normal? The guy who throws his owm shit at people?
aneesa said it was an a toxic relationship.
I don't have a good feeling about how this Abe/Cara stuff is gonna end. When it ends. Whatever way.
Oh and if Abe and John are on the reunion together (I don't think MTV will be dumb to invite Abram to it though) I don't even wanna know what will come out of it. One wrong look and there'll be another Bananas backpack.
Well...if aneesa said it..****
She didn't call her fat. She said have you ever seen her workout and something about does it look like she works out. That's not saying she's fat, just out of shape. She also said it what she considered privately to her cousin. She's still new to the cameras at this point. Jenna isn't fat, but on this show doesn't look like she works out...now she does. Same could be said of the short Jessica on rivals 2. No matter how sweet a girl is, they call someone fat at some point. It's what we do. The way Vince talked to Camilla, that's calling someone fat rudely.
I'm going to respond to two at once since I'm having trouble finding this post after I signed in. The girls Jenna took out probably weren't even 100 pounds, giving Jenna too much credit there lol! Larissa's 4'10", she's gotta be under 100! Christina is super short and tiny too...I doubt shes 100 pounds.
abe will be there he almost made the end and people want to know what the status is with his and Cara and stuff. The only reason he dislikes bananas is because how he treats Cara. He even said it last week.
I hope Cara Maria and Abram work things out. I like them together.
I like them together too, but it seems like it is really bad for them to be together. I do not think it is going to work out in a long run. I believe Abe will do better with someone very normal and down to earth. Cara can go ahead and sleep around, it seems like she did not have enough of that yet.
Won't happen Ct was on steroids and coke and Abe is crazy, but let's be real in bad physical condition.
People think because the way Abe acts sometimes that hes dangerous when in reality the most he has done is fought Donnell and Adam from RR. Sure he smeared feces on a wall but does that really make him dangerous? Also last time I checked Donnell was the one arrested for beating his teenage gf. Abe has always been intense. As for an abusive relationship? I've never seen Abe act abusively and talked to Cara in an abusive manner. And to the people saying "well abusers can hide that abusive side really well". Look at abe. Do you really think he's going to be able to hide that seeing the way he acts sometimes? He has always appeared to me that he wears his emotion on his sleaves making him an easy read. And if theres been one obvious thing about him its that he reacts very negatively to disrespect. With that said I fully expect him to flip his shit when he finds out about Cara. That doesn't neccessarily means hes going to hurt someone though. I always thought his and cara's problems stem from her insecurity and him being too intense and knowing exactly what he wants and her not so much. Of course this is all speculation.
Thomas looking a little fat too. Like he was cute back then but now..... nah.
there is no indication that abe is abusive towards cara maria in anyway. he can be aggressive to those outside of the relationship but sweet and sensitive towards cara herself. if anything cara is the one that is abusive; cheating on your partner can already be emotionally traumatizing to many people but on NATIONAL TV? REALLY? cheating on someone is shameful and humiliating enough to the victim on a communal and domestic level but cheating on TV brings it to a macrospheric NATIONAL and global scale. the abuser isnt the guy thats freaking out over this, it is instead the wicked witch of the west that shitted on his dignity and trust and manhood all the way to the east from the US to the netherlands to estonia or wherever else people are watching. cara maria is disgusting and if abe has any sort of honor he would kick her *** to the curb
From what I heard, Abram has done his share of sleeping around and cheating. Cara, not so much, not until Bloodlines. Again, this is what I heard, I don't know the full story about their relationship, but the word is Cara had not slept with anyone else since they've been together (5 years) until Bloodlines. Abram has slept with plenty of women duribg this time.
I do think Cara did this on purpose. If it's true that she kept messing aroung with Thomas when Abram was already there, I believe she wanted him to find out and see it. I suspect she was hurt herself about something else and wanted him to be hurt, too.
That relationship is anything byt healthy.
Also the house had go pros in random places. There was one in the bathroom so Shane Would make random videos and take selfies while going to the bathroom.
Cara has yet to bring up " Abram cheating " in interviews or the show. If he had done that I think she would of used it by now to try to justify her actions. What you heard was probably started by some lame challenge Cara Maria fan.
What she is referring to is when they were broken up and Cara Maria was having tizzy fits on twitter. Saying **** like " All you ****** who slept with Abram, you can have him" .. Coral actually got in on this during this time. Her and Abram would jokingly tweet back and forth, kinda flirt etc... Cara would tweet shade towards coral... Coral would promote Abrams art..etc.. then when he got back with Cara him and Coral stopped tweeting @ each other lol
You can't really say oh Abe slept with people when they broke up to make Cara jealous because let's be honest I am sure most people here slept around after a break up after a long term relationship mainly to make the other person jealous
Also since its been bugging me why is everyone so concerned over Abe calling bananas John?!?! He wasn't even bananas from a production standpoint till Reilly came on because they then had 2 johnnys. However if you guys remember back when ( real world season & duel) bananas was John and known as John so it isn't like nobody heard him called John before. It's like ct being called Chris
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