The Challenge: Battle of the Bloodlines Discussion Deux (SPOILERS)

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http://youtu.be/UPHoXl3nJOgClip from the aftershow......

I like Abram but that was a bit extra.

Thomas deserves  any asswhooping or berating he gets.  He not only hooked up wtg a girl who has a boyfriend but he has a girl at home he's cheating on as well.  Plus let's not forget what a **** he was to Hailey.

Thomas cheated but it was Cara who cheated on Abe not Thomas. Thomas didn't put a gun to her head she chose to do this so he needs to be mad at her or not mad at all. The thing is if he is mad with her he should end it instead of beind mad but wanting to stay around her which is unhealthy.

Thomas didn't have any commitment to Abe, Cara did. Why should Abe be mad at him tho?

They supposedly still hooked up even when Abe was there

Still can't understand why Cara didn't tell Abram about this whole thing yet. idk, maybe she told him later, but still.

Thomas deserves  any asswhooping or berating he gets.  He not only hooked up wtg a girl who has a boyfriend but he has a girl at home he's cheating on as well.  Plus let's not forget what a **** he was to Hailey.

how he made such a big deal out of hailey cheating 

The thing is thomas did hold a gun to hailey's head he literally told her on their season that he wanted her dead. Then he goes and does the same thing she did and now it's okay ?. 

Thomas didn't have any commitment to Abe, Cara did. Why should Abe be mad at him tho?

because he banged his girlfriend.....

The thing is thomas did hold a gun to hailey's head he literally told her on their season that he wanted her dead. Then he goes and does the same thing she did and now it's okay ?. 

Well I don't really count that situation because Hailey ***** slapped Thomas around that house the same night. Smile

callmeLuk wrote:

**** that's scary. Hope he doesn't beat on Thomas or anything.

I lowkey believe Thomas would win that fight. Abe isn't in shape like he was on Road Rules and Thomas ain't Donnell.

hahahaha riiiiiiiiggghhhhtt... thanks for the laughs

The thing is thomas did hold a gun to hailey's head he literally told her on their season that he wanted her dead. Then he goes and does the same thing she did and now it's okay ?. 

Right! This season made me see why people hate Thomas so much.

Stegall wrote:

Did I miss this miss moment happening with Nicole? Cause it was all over pre-season ads and I definitely don't recall it on the show https://twitter.com/ChallengeMTV/status/671056083255869440

Episode one. When she's whining about Nany being labeled as a *****. Which has since been proven undeniably true after #BananaGate.

 

What's #bananagate? I need to be filled in I can't keep up on here!!! Lol

gamer73 wrote:

Thomas didn't have any commitment to Abe, Cara did. Why should Abe be mad at him tho?

because he banged his girlfriend.....

But they weren't friends and didn't even know each other ****. Idk I don't see anything wrong with it, but then again I ****** someone's girlfriend last month sooo I'm #TeamThomas

Challenge 17 wrote:

gamer73 wrote:Thomas didn't have any commitment to Abe, Cara did. Why should Abe be mad at him tho?

because he banged his girlfriend.....

But they weren't friends and didn't even know each other ****. Idk I don't see anything wrong with it, but then again I ****** someone's girlfriend last month sooo I'm #TeamThomas

home wreakers stick together lol I'm just playing, but lets not forget Abram and Cara have been dating for years and living together. The thing is Thomas isn't just some stranger who Abram will never see, he has to see him everyday in the house. That is a lot harder to ignore than some one night stand he'd never see. 

This whole thing must be staged, I'm pretty sure Abram is acting for the cameras. If he is being himself, how the **** did he pass the psych test?

This whole thing must be staged, I'm pretty sure Abram is acting for the cameras. If he is being himself, how the **** did he pass the psych test?

I don't think it's an act, Abram is crazy, he flings his own shit. 

After this aftershow I know Abram moved out of the house and they were in worse terms. I guess after seeing some footage, it made he goes crazy

Yes!! I hated it when Jenn said it. I remember watching freshmeating going please you haven't even won a final. It is my least favorite line.  I liked Nany till this season too. I'm sure in real life she's great and it's just the role she's going with, but hypocrisy much!?!  How many eliminations have you won? Like one. Johnny Banannas is growing on me the past few seasons, but I rewatched key west a few years ago and like him there. 

JamieFire wrote:

********* dying at the fact that people supposedly HATE ayto. If Nia, CT, Wes or any other fan favorite told dario to "know his role" they would be PRAISED. But because NANY is the one who said it, she gets shit on. XD But no one likes ayto tho????? Lying *****. #ZzzzBiasedNanyHaters

Please.I don't even dislike Nany but she sounded ******* stupid. Just because you've done so many challenges doesn't mean you get a free pass to the final, which she obviously expects. She got mad because someone called her out and was looked at as a threat, but wanted to use her loud mouth and veteran status as a weapon like it meant something."Know your role" is such a stupid thing to say to anybody, and it's a cop out when ere isn't a real argument to be had. CT, Wes, and Nia wouldn't say something as stupid as that because they aren't afraid of eliminations and aren't afraid to actually use logic and actual sentences in an argument. Nany couldn't come up with anything to say because she was being stupid and wrong.Has nothing to do with being biased, being biased is defending someone even when they're wrong. I've never disliked Nany but this episode made her lose points in my book.

After this aftershow I know Abram moved out of the house and they were in worse terms. I guess after seeing some footage, it made he goes crazy

so this confirms he wasn't acting for the cameras. 

Mine would be about the same. I'd swap Larissa for Vince or maybe Candice.  The second Raphy and Dario started to speak I wanted them off my screen. I was glad they went home that episode because featuring them for one episode was far too much. 

After this aftershow I know Abram moved out of the house and they were in worse terms. I guess after seeing some footage, it made he goes crazy

this is why we need a reunion!

This whole thing must be staged, I'm pretty sure Abram is acting for the cameras. If he is being himself, how the **** did he pass the psych test?

its not that hard to pass a psych test, especially,if you've done them before, you just give them the answers they are looking for.     This relationship is toxic at best......

I dont want to see Candice ever again, Larissa I wouldnt mind.

PinkRose wrote:

After this aftershow I know Abram moved out of the house and they were in worse terms. I guess after seeing some footage, it made he goes crazy

this is why we need a reunion!

I think its happening, based on nany/jenna tweet andcara friend tweet to them.

Nicole also wrote to Rianna that she cant wait to see her soon in ny

I dont want to see Candice ever again, Larissa I wouldnt mind.

I'd rather see neither tbh. Nicole & Jill are the only ones that matter to me. 

Doesn't Abram own that house?  Cara said in the Rad Reality podcast that she moved out and bought her own place. Why would Abram move out, too, if it's his own place? 

audreyhorne wrote:

This whole thing must be staged, I'm pretty sure Abram is acting for the cameras. If he is being himself, how the **** did he pass the psych test?

its not that hard to pass a psych test, especially,if you've done them before, you just give them the answers they are looking for.     This relationship is toxic at best......

I mean Adam couldn't pass it. Abe's character is crazy and insane MTV won't she him normal. Cara moved to Montana to be with him and they have been together for 5 years, she recently mentioned she hopes they end up together so I doubt he was abusive to her. If you look at her YouTube page she has some everyday videos of her and Abe and he is 100% normal 

Doesn't Abram own that house?  Cara said in the Rad Reality podcast that she moved out and bought her own place. Why would Abram move out, too, if it's his own place? 

His family owns a house they rent out I believe he stayed there. Cara works at a gym if she needed to commute it wouldn't pay I believe Abe does freelance stuff 

Doesn't Abram own that house?  Cara said in the Rad Reality podcast that she moved out and bought her own place. Why would Abram move out, too, if it's his own place? 

I know from a reliable source that he moved out and was living by himself on November around departure for Rivals 3. He was living at his vacation rental in Paradise Valley. While Cara was staying in his house.

No idea if it was until she gound a place. But I know that what I wrote is a fact.

 

Re: toxic relationships. I'm certain that their relationship is toxic. It doesn't mean it's violent all the time, of course there are good and normal moments. In a toxic relationship you go from amazing to awful with little middle ground, you go from one extreme to another, you tend to expect either extreme love or extreme hate. I don't know if Abram is abusive towards her and I certainly hope he isn't. What we know is that he is a very jelous and a very violent man, and that's a recipe for disaster. He is a man who got arrested,  took a **** in the cell, took it in his hand and started throwing it at the cops like a monkey. It all happened in Cara's home town and her name was mentioned. When after the incident Cara decided she needed a break to think about their relationship, he ****** a bunch of random girls in order to make her jelous. 

We live in a culture that glorifies codependency, toxic relationships and, to a degree, domestic violence. A relationship that's full of mutual respect, understanding and support is considered boring and lacking a spark. Fights that lead to angry ***, emotional violence, tears, jelousy are seen as signs of passion. We teach our children that true love needs to be dark and full of suffering.

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