The Challenge: Battle of the Bloodlines Discussion Deux (SPOILERS)

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FreeAgent3 wrote:

I think if they brough back old schoolers and promoted the show correctly, as well as mixing in new schoolers/regulars that the current demographic would watch and they could bring back a lot of old fans who don't watch anymore because the people they like aren't on. A new school vs. old school or rookies vs. vets, or a cutthroat with three teams of different eras would be really cool.The only way it would really work is with promotion. They'd have to promote outside of MTV becasue old school fans who don't watch the challenge anymore are deff not watching MTV so they wouldn't know about it unless it was promoted on another BIG channel which would never happen.

Mtv is to focus on promoting their script it show, I am really curious to know how that show they have been promoting everywhere do this week the chronicles of w.e. Let see if that promotion pays off

Oh I know! They're idiots. If they promoted the challenge more and made better casting choices it would really do well. Too bad they don't care. And **** I haven't seen promotion any promotion for that show because I've never even heard of it ****

From the new guys, I kinda like Cory and maybe Jamie. Seeing them on a season with CT/Wes would be quite interesting. I think the issue is that when there's too many rookies, they don't get pushed to the limit and evolve to become mainstay players without conflict and confrontation from strong vets. And ultimately, what creates entertainment is when there are strong players in the game that you want to be able to root for, or root hard against. Players like Raphy/Thomas/Stephen/Shane/etc are all just blah and forgettable to the degree you don't really care to root for or against them. If MTV can pick out the right guys from the new crop, and incorporate them with some of the good vets in new and refreshing future formats, then this show will find ways to thrive.

From the females, unfortunately I can't really say I personally like any of the new ones besides maybe Jenna. She may be boring, but she has a strong underdog quality because she finds ways to win eliminations even when people always count her out. So I wouldn't mind seeing her continue to be invited

I think this season is great. Get out of the "old age" and move on. 

Meanwhile people like Bananas, Abram, Anessa, KellyAnne, Camilla, Nany and Cara Maria are getting the main (only (?)) focus on this season...the 'old age'.

Seriously the only new people that are delivering/delievered are Tony, Cory, Dario, Christina and Thomas to an extent (because we are all waiting for Abram's reaction).

With Jamie being the best bloodline by far so far. Shane the second

Real talk: Aneesa needs to stop being invited

Real talk: Aneesa needs to stop being invited

No.

Shane was most enertaining Bloodline so far and showed he can compete which a lot of people are probally surprised by. I wish we saw more of him. 

What have Vinny & nicole done since the 1st episode when he made up that rumour about Nany/Cory & she got in Tony's face?They have been nonexistent & this coming from a Bananas/Nany fan.

Which bloodline have got an storyline that carried out through the season? None.

The alumni are having those storylines.

Nicole got in tony face , got in argument with dario during deliberationand was kind of shown on the episode when bananas backstab nany.

Vince start the rumor, got in the argument with camila thar production edit out to show on the aftershow amd is that one telling abram about cara cheating on him next episode.

Brianna got in the argument with Jenna , after that she is laying low.

Emily irrelevant.

Candice irrelevant till her injury and dq.

Shane lovable guy got in his argument with Tony.

Mitch hookup with Rianna , was kind of relevant due to his elimination last week and is part of the rookie alliance but I feel like Cory/Dario/Thomas were in charge dragging their bloodlines.

Jamie so far irrelevant, getting more screen time soon.

Anthony he is so irrelevant that his first cofessional was on episode 4 and hasnt been shown doing anything else other than talking to bananas.

Raphy argument with Nany.

Jill good girl, I guess the female version of cohutta.

Larissa argument with Tony.

Rianna hookup with mitcm episode 1.

Stephen nothing.

From the new guys, I kinda like Cory and maybe Jamie. Seeing them on a season with CT/Wes would be quite interesting. I think the issue is that when there's too many rookies, they don't get pushed to the limit and evolve to become mainstay players without conflict and confrontation from strong vets. And ultimately, what creates entertainment is when there are strong players in the game that you want to be able to root for, or root hard against. Players like Raphy/Thomas/Stephen/Shane/etc are all just blah and forgettable to the degree you don't really care to root for or against them. If MTV can pick out the right guys from the new crop, and incorporate them with some of the good vets in new and refreshing future formats, then this show will find ways to thrive.From the females, unfortunately I can't really say I personally like any of the new ones besides maybe Jenna. She may be boring, but she has a strong underdog quality because she finds ways to win eliminations even when people always count her out. So I wouldn't mind seeing her continue to be invited

im not saying jenna cant defeat any formidable competitor but calling her an "underdog" in her elimination....really? she beat two 100lb girls on their first seasons. how is this an underdogs victory in anyway?

Stephen/Rianna/Candice/Jill/Emily/Mitch/Anthony have no reason to be invited back. Ever.

But I'm like really not satisfied with rianna. I do think she can be good tv but they aren't giving her any airtime. 

But I'm like really not satisfied with rianna. I do think she can be good tv but they aren't giving her any airtime. 

Cause she's not doing anything worth airing.

Her confessionals aren't even that funny. Brianna and Nicole's have made me laugh more.

But I'm like really not satisfied with rianna. I do think she can be good tv but they aren't giving her any airtime. 

She is my biggest disappointment.

Btw she was looking kind of cute last night based on IG

I think this season is great. Get out of the "old age" and move on. 

It'd be nice if the new age consisted of RW castmembers only(with some roadies sprinked in here and there too).

Stephen/Rianna/Candice/Jill/Emily/Mitch/Anthony have no reason to be invited back. Ever.

Jill and Mitch are likable and have potential to be great competitors so I'd like to see them back. Jill got robbed by the twist and deserves a second chance. 

Jman09 wrote:

I think this season is great. Get out of the "old age" and move on. 

It'd be nice if the new age consisted of RW castmembers only(with some roadies sprinked in here and there too).

Never gonna happen

bluehatchet2 wrote:

Stephen/Rianna/Candice/Jill/Emily/Mitch/Anthony have no reason to be invited back. Ever.

Jill and Mitch are likable and have potential to be good competitors so I'd like to see them back. Jill got robbed by the twist and deserves a second chance. 

Mitch just doesn't do it for me. He's boring, creeps me out, and is kind of awkward to me. Plus I didn't like him at all when he was talking down to Camila. Not really my cup of tea but I can see why people like him.

Jill was boring to me. I don't see her adding anything to the show besides competition which shouldn't be looked at when casting for a challenge.

Mitch is the ONLY bloodline to win an elimination. He is the ONLY bloodline to hookup (besides Rianna because his hookup was with Rianna). He is like one of two Bloodlines to fight/argue with someone other than their bloodline that was shown on the show. (I don't count Vince since his argument was shown on the after show. I don't watch the after show so I didn't know it happened.) He's in a rookie alliance and has had several confessionals recently. He was the only one comforting KellyAnne.

Saying he's boring is one thing, but saying he's irrelevant/shouldn't be brought back/hasn't done anything isn't true. He has done far more than Nicole, Vince and Brianna. He also makes it to the final so he has several episodes to go too.

I'm not a fan of many of the bloodlines but I think everyone deserves at least a second chance. Jenna was brought back for a second time, why shouldn't others. Not everyone will shine on their first season. Especially when the alumni have a lot of drama and theres like 20 rookies.

 

justintime wrote:

bluehatchet2 wrote:Stephen/Rianna/Candice/Jill/Emily/Mitch/Anthony have no reason to be invited back. Ever.

Jill and Mitch are likable and have potential to be good competitors so I'd like to see them back. Jill got robbed by the twist and deserves a second chance. 

Mitch just doesn't do it for me. He's boring, creeps me out, and is kind of awkward to me. Plus I didn't like him at all when he was talking down to Camila. Not really my cup of tea but I can see why people like him.Jill was boring to me. I don't see her adding anything to the show besides competition which shouldn't be looked at when casting for a challenge.

Good for him for standing up to Camila. There was no reason for her to be bullying him. He didn't owe her anything and her screaming at him wasn't gonna make him change his vote. We need more of that on the show. I didn't like Dario/Raphy but at least they stood up to Bananas/Nany.

Jill was a good competitor and had a chill personality. I don't really see her as a reality TV type but she was a refreshing character to see rather than the trashy drunken fighting girls we see all the time. I think she could bring something but we would need to see her again to tell.

Mitch's hook up was gross and irrelevant. Was never even brought again. His "fight" was him standing there with Stephen and (?) looking at Camila like she was crazy. " His"rookie alliance? More like Cory, Thomas, and Dario's rookie alliance. 

Jenna was brought back because she's popular on social media and provided comic relief on Exes 2. Plus her relationship with her cousin also adds to why she was brought back.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vince, Jamie, Raphy, Nicole, Brianna and maybe Shane are the only bloodlines ever brought back. The rest are replaceable with either RW or AYTO?

Mitch's hook up was gross and irrelevant. Was never even brought again. His "fight" was him standing there with Stephen and (?) looking at Camila like she was crazy. " His"rookie alliance? More like Cory, Thomas, and Dario's rookie alliance. Jenna was brought back because she's popular on social media and provided comic relief on Exes 2. Plus her relationship with her cousin also adds to why she was brought back.

Whether his hookup was gross doesn't mean shit. He's the only one eligible for Exes. He also could have been on Rivals with Camila or even Anthony. Who can Brianna, Nicole or Vince be paired with for Exes, no one. lol

You just said two seconds ago you didn't like how he spoke down to Camila, now he just stood there? hmm, ZzZzZ

At least he's part of a movement. No one else is trying to make moves or politic. Nicole, Vince and Brianna are all just a part of Banana's clan. Yawn. #next

 

Nicole/Jamie already have possible exes ;) plus other rivals possibilities if they ever do that again.

I like Mitch way more than his own bloodline, but he being on a next season or not would affect me. No shade or anything but every time I see him , I think need some proactive or skin care.

So his 3 second hook up with the most irrelevant girl of the season automatically makes him better than Nicole, Vince, and Brianna?...zzz Vince and Brianna had significant others during the show. Nicole I think had a boyfriend?...and even if she didn't she made up for it with her arguments and confessionals. That's more than we can say for Mitch.

Plus Mitch didn't argue with Camila, Camila argued with him and his robotics club friends.

Nicole/Jamie already have possible exes ;) plus other rivals possibilities if they ever do that again.I like Mitch way more than his own bloodline, but he being on a next season or not would affect me. No shade or anything but he does need aome proactive or skin care.

Yes but from their second season. I'm talking about their original season...

And any of the bloodlines being on another season or not wouldn't effect me or anyone really. They haven't been that strong of a prescence. I'm just saying out of the 15, to say Mitch is irrelevant when he has hookedup, won an elimination, fought, etc. is dumb to say.

I'm still dead at the fact that Nany was the one to lose the elimination round lolol

PinkRose wrote:

Nicole/Jamie already have possible exes ;) plus other rivals possibilities if they ever do that again.I like Mitch way more than his own bloodline, but he being on a next season or not would affect me. No shade or anything but he does need aome proactive or skin care.

Yes but from their second season. I'm talking about their original season...And any of the bloodlines being on another season or not wouldn't effect me or anyone really. They haven't been that strong of a prescence. I'm just saying out of the 15, to say Mitch is irrelevant when he has hookedup, won an elimination, fought, etc. is dumb to say.

I have never say his irrelevant, just there like the other bloodlines. Nothing special about him atleast for me. He is likable to me , but for some reason doeant do it for me.

Btw I really dont count that as a fight, he stood his ground to a crazy Camila but thats it. I dont even think that was an argument, it was just camila being annoying intimidating the rookies guys.

I'm still dead at the fact that Nany was the one to lose the elimination round lolol

I was so surprised since we all thought Nicole was the one who lost lol during Jenna vs. Larissa, Nany even said something like "Camila losing without having a chance to fight shows that any of us could be sent home." I thought that was a hint at Nicole being the one to lose it for her ****

So his 3 second hook up with the most irrelevant girl of the season automatically makes him better than Nicole, Vince, and Brianna?...zzz Vince and Brianna had significant others during the show. Nicole I think had a boyfriend?...and even if she didn't she made up for it with her arguments and confessionals. That's more than we can say for Mitch.Plus Mitch didn't argue with Camila, Camila argued with him and his robotics club friends.

His hookup makes him somewhat relevant to the show. His elimination win makes him even more relevant. Nicole had one two second argument and has barely been shown since. Where was her hook up or elimination win? It wasn't a big fight but he did argue back with Camila. Nicole's argument was louder that's it lol. Not everyone needs to scream and look insane for it to be called an argument. Also, Mitch has gotten a lot of confessionals too dude.

I'm not saying he's the star of the show, he isn't at all, but he's far from irrelevant. One of the top bloodlines for sure though.

Looks like Cory and Brianna are making the final w/o seeing an elimination and possibly Jamie and Jenna are the only two competitors to win 2 eliminations (that is if Cara doesn't take out KA).

Mitch is far from irrelevant I'll admit but I prefer other bloodlines than him. But like pink said he is WAYYY more likable than Cory. And his confessionals and hearing him speak in general don't **** me off like his annoying *** bloodline. So he gets double the points.

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