You literally agreed that not making big moves means you're not playing the game so I'm confused here. Either way, totally agree DA. Editing and Jeff just edit the show to push a big moves agenda. Cagayn is the worst of this with how they edit Tony to be Russell like and build up to his downfall and it never happens. Leading to threads like "could Russell have won with a Cagayn jury?" and the like.
I didn't mean big moves is the ONLY way to win... making ANY moves shows me that you are playing the game. Ppl that take the backseat, don't deserve the money... i'm sorry, but that's just how I feel. I hate floaters. I've played a ton of survivor ORG's and the only ones I have won, I made moves and controlled the game... I've seen it over and over again. Maybe online you might not be as personally affected by ppl backstabbing you, but I've seen it happen in the actual game too... ppl like Spencer understand the game and how the deserving player should win. Woo vs Tony was the perfect example of floater vs game players/bad guy... Spencer saw that Tony had played the game and he personally addressed the jury and made it clear. Just because Tony got you all out pretty much single-handedly, doesn't mean you shouldn't award him the money. Tony worked his *** off to win that game and deserved it. Russell on the other hand found a ton of poorly hidden idols and was an ******* in camp for no reason. Tony was better than Russell by a mile.
You literally agreed that not making big moves means you're not playing the game so I'm confused here. Either way, totally agree DA. Editing and Jeff just edit the show to push a big moves agenda. Cagayn is the worst of this with how they edit Tony to be Russell like and build up to his downfall and it never happens. Leading to threads like "could Russell have won with a Cagayn jury?" and the like.
I didn't mean big moves is the ONLY way to win... making ANY moves shows me that you are playing the game. Ppl that take the backseat, don't deserve the money... i'm sorry, but that's just how I feel. I hate floaters. I've played a ton of survivor ORG's and the only ones I have won, I made moves and controlled the game... I've seen it over and over again. Maybe online you might not be as personally affected by ppl backstabbing you, but I've seen it happen in the actual game too... ppl like Spencer understand the game and how the deserving player should win. Woo vs Tony was the perfect example of floater vs game players/bad guy... Spencer saw that Tony had played the game and he personally addressed the jury and made it clear. Just because Tony got you all out pretty much single-handedly, doesn't mean you shouldn't award him the money. Tony worked his *** off to win that game and deserved it. Russell on the other hand found a ton of poorly hidden idols and was an ******* in camp for no reason. Tony was better than Russell by a mile.
You do know Russell looked for hours for the HII's lol. I know the edit made it seem like he's Jesus and just used the force to spot these things like it was nothing, but that wasn't the case.
Russell's tragic flaw is that he had zero concept of being humble or graceful.
I hate it when eople have some straight stigma of what a winner is. Not everyone can win challenges, not everyone can be charming and social, not everyone has the ability to convince people to make big moves, not every one can lie their way through the game, not everyone is an honest Christian who brings that to the game. That is why there are so many different winners. And not ALL of the reason for that is simply based of the jury.
I hate it when eople have some straight stigma of what a winner is. Not everyone can win challenges, not everyone can be charming and social, not everyone has the ability to convince people to make big moves, not every one can lie their way through the game, not everyone is an honest Christian who brings that to the game. That is why there are so many different winners. And not ALL of the reason for that is simply based of the jury.
Agreed but that's also why not everyone has a chance to win the game. If you're someone who either can't win challenges, or not the most charming/social/convincing/can't big moves you're probably gonna be one of the 19 other people who don't win because there is usually someone who is charming/social/convincing/wins challenges/makes a move (or at least most of them) that gets them to the end.
Yeah, I mean if someone uses what they have to win than I am all for it. I can guarantee I wouldn't be the one finding idols the the one winning HOH on Big Brother.
I do think Russell was robbed on his first season but I ALSO think Natalie did what she could do with what she had and who she is.
I mean bringing up non-expected winners..Between Natalie,Fabio,Tina,Amber,Todd,Denise,Cochran I think they all looked like people that wouldn't win but brought different things to the table and deserved to win. Well, maybe not Amber Tina and Amber...but that is just my opinion based on their season.
I mean bringing up non-expected winners..Between Natalie,Fabio,Tina,Amber,Todd,Denise,Cochran I think they all looked like people that wouldn't win but brought different things to the table and deserved to win. Well, maybe not Amber Tina and Amber...but that is just my opinion based on their season.
Todd was pretty expected at least for me. He played the game hard from day one and never took a break. Getting rid of Jean Robert was brilliant.
Was I the only one who really liked Ashley from redemption island? She was the one who got rid of grant and she could have won it all.
Also i loved grant, especially since I found out him and Natalie from Micronesia are close friends.
Was I the only one who really liked Ashley from redemption island? She was the one who got rid of grant and she could have won it all. Also i loved grant, especially since I found out him and Natalie from Micronesia are close friends.
When compared to 80% of the cast, she was pretty cool. Nothing to write home about, but she was a decent player and likeable. Honestly, I would have rather even Natalie Tenerelli winning over BRob, so I would be ecstatic if Ashley won.
yeah, he did something cool in the past? I have seen only Heroes vs Villains with him and expect him being good at challenges, can't get this hype about him.
Lol now all the people on the Facebook page are rooting for Keith because he didn't vote for Joe because he "wouldn't write Joe's name down " causal fans are so dumb Keith said multiple times he's fine with getting rid of Joe
Lol now all the people on the Facebook page are rooting for Keith because he didn't vote for Joe because he "wouldn't write Joe's name down " causal fans are so dumb Keith said multiple times he's fine with getting rid of Joe
Lol now all the people on the Facebook page are rooting for Keith because he didn't vote for Joe because he "wouldn't write Joe's name down " causal fans are so dumb Keith said multiple times he's fine with getting rid of Joe
Every time I go check comments on FB for Survivor, The Challenge etc. I regret it immediately.
Like, I get you are stupid, but seeing those dumb *** comments getting huge amount of likes is sad and tragic. What those people had in their heads smh.
EDIT: come thru comments section and some of the had voice of reason. Wow
Do you guys thinj a second chance season with only premerge contestants would work?
I'm torn because I can think of a lot of girls id want to see again like Stephanie, Alexis, Lindsay(wa),mikayla, Candace
but I can't think of a lot of guys besides Brad, John ,ace and garret.
Do you guys thinj a second chance season with only premerge contestants would work? I'm torn because I can think of a lot of girls id want to see again like Stephanie, Alexis, Lindsay(wa),mikayla, Candace but I can't think of a lot of guys besides Brad, John ,ace and garret.
No. That's a bit limiting and I can't really think of alot of good premerge characters. I think that how they did it the first time is much better because they'd be able to get a better cast. But I do think that in the event that they do second chances again it should include premerge people though.
I didn't mean big moves is the ONLY way to win... making ANY moves shows me that you are playing the game. Ppl that take the backseat, don't deserve the money... i'm sorry, but that's just how I feel. I hate floaters. I've played a ton of survivor ORG's and the only ones I have won, I made moves and controlled the game... I've seen it over and over again. Maybe online you might not be as personally affected by ppl backstabbing you, but I've seen it happen in the actual game too... ppl like Spencer understand the game and how the deserving player should win. Woo vs Tony was the perfect example of floater vs game players/bad guy... Spencer saw that Tony had played the game and he personally addressed the jury and made it clear. Just because Tony got you all out pretty much single-handedly, doesn't mean you shouldn't award him the money. Tony worked his *** off to win that game and deserved it. Russell on the other hand found a ton of poorly hidden idols and was an ******* in camp for no reason. Tony was better than Russell by a mile.
I don't agree with the comparison, just pointing out one that fans made throughout the season.
You do know Russell looked for hours for the HII's lol. I know the edit made it seem like he's Jesus and just used the force to spot these things like it was nothing, but that wasn't the case.
Russell's tragic flaw is that he had zero concept of being humble or graceful.
I hate it when eople have some straight stigma of what a winner is. Not everyone can win challenges, not everyone can be charming and social, not everyone has the ability to convince people to make big moves, not every one can lie their way through the game, not everyone is an honest Christian who brings that to the game. That is why there are so many different winners. And not ALL of the reason for that is simply based of the jury.
Agreed but that's also why not everyone has a chance to win the game. If you're someone who either can't win challenges, or not the most charming/social/convincing/can't big moves you're probably gonna be one of the 19 other people who don't win because there is usually someone who is charming/social/convincing/wins challenges/makes a move (or at least most of them) that gets them to the end.
Yeah, I mean if someone uses what they have to win than I am all for it. I can guarantee I wouldn't be the one finding idols the the one winning HOH on Big Brother.
I do think Russell was robbed on his first season but I ALSO think Natalie did what she could do with what she had and who she is.
I mean bringing up non-expected winners..Between Natalie,Fabio,Tina,Amber,Todd,Denise,Cochran I think they all looked like people that wouldn't win but brought different things to the table and deserved to win. Well, maybe not Amber Tina and Amber...but that is just my opinion based on their season.
Todd was pretty expected at least for me. He played the game hard from day one and never took a break. Getting rid of Jean Robert was brilliant.
Was I the only one who really liked Ashley from redemption island? She was the one who got rid of grant and she could have won it all.
Also i loved grant, especially since I found out him and Natalie from Micronesia are close friends.
When compared to 80% of the cast, she was pretty cool. Nothing to write home about, but she was a decent player and likeable. Honestly, I would have rather even Natalie Tenerelli winning over BRob, so I would be ecstatic if Ashley won.
The only Rob that matters is Cesternino.
So you're not a fan of Boston Rob huh?
Not particularly.
I meant more at first glance. But yeah, Todd was amazing.
SMH to those fans who are sending death threats to abi and kelley for voting out joe
Same, I felt bad for her when she discussed it on periscope. Her IG is filled with rude *** comments too, reality TV fans are the worst.
i dont they realize its a game.. or they do and their infatuation for joe is clouding their judgement.
That's ******* pathetic. I don't get the appeal of Joe, he's boring as shit and looks like a woman.
Lol now all the people on the Facebook page are rooting for Keith because he didn't vote for Joe because he "wouldn't write Joe's name down " causal fans are so dumb Keith said multiple times he's fine with getting rid of Joe
ppl on facebook smh
Every time I go check comments on FB for Survivor, The Challenge etc. I regret it immediately.
Like, I get you are stupid, but seeing those dumb *** comments getting huge amount of likes is sad and tragic. What those people had in their heads smh.
EDIT: come thru comments section and some of the had voice of reason. Wow
Do you guys thinj a second chance season with only premerge contestants would work?
I'm torn because I can think of a lot of girls id want to see again like Stephanie, Alexis, Lindsay(wa),mikayla, Candace
but I can't think of a lot of guys besides Brad, John ,ace and garret.
Yve was alsp someone I loved I forget why tho i just remember being a huge fan of her. I almost forgot Tracy from Micronesia, she waa a great player
No. That's a bit limiting and I can't really think of alot of good premerge characters. I think that how they did it the first time is much better because they'd be able to get a better cast. But I do think that in the event that they do second chances again it should include premerge people though.
Tracy <3
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