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Graphik you forgot FM also brought Diem. I'd say that was solid and gave us the best love story this series has seen.

 

But like DA said, different strokes for different folks.

I don't mention Diem anymore just out of respect, but I really wasn't a big fan of that love story lol. It was sad how it ended though.

Random but I thought Diem was gorgeous on Exes 2. Best she had ever looked on the show.

I didn't like their love story either....Well not so much dislike but just did not care at all about their relationship.

At Graphik: Understood.

But despite where you guys like it or not, it was a very core part of the series.

I wouldn't say core but it was a big storyline.

it was a lack of a better word. But yes. it was big. Anyways moving forward with the series, FM are now kinda non-factors.

And I can't tell you how happy I am about that! All I need is for Cara to retire and their reign of terror on this show would be finally over.

Lmao. You really really hate them.

Graphik you forgot FM also brought Diem. I'd say that was solid and gave us the best love story this series has seen.

 

But like DA said, different strokes for different folks.

I don't mention Diem anymore just out of respect, but I really wasn't a big fan of that love story lol. It was sad how it ended though.

Random but I thought Diem was gorgeous on Exes 2. Best she had ever looked on the show.

I didn't like their love story either....Well not so much dislike but just did not care at all about their relationship.

At Graphik: Understood.

But despite where you guys like it or not, it was a very core part of the series.

I wouldn't say core but it was a big storyline.

it was a lack of a better word. But yes. it was big. Anyways moving forward with the series, FM are now kinda non-factors.

And I can't tell you how happy I am about that! All I need is for Cara to retire and their reign of terror on this show would be finally over.

Lmao. You really really hate them.

Yes I do.

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Already happened when JEK got total control and they were 2 FM guys taking over.

I didnt say it was wrong or right to like someone but hatred and love are two different things but sure (even tho i think your double standards dont make sense at all) thats your opinion.When i like someone on my TV is because of what they do and because somehow i identify with whatever they are/or do on the other hand i never hate anyone, maybe its just me but hate is strong word I dislike or find someone annoying due to their TV personalities or something that happened on the TV but hating on someone who did nothing but sign up for a reality show is pointless.

But hey enough of this lets hope that some new RW people put some new life into these shows.

Crazy to think how much of a bust FM2 was compared to FM1 in terms of big personalities and storylines it brought to the show.

Crazy to think how much of a bust FM2 was compared to FM1 in terms of big personalities and storylines it brought to the show.

The difference between the two really was huge but also I feel like they had to cast really strong personalities for the first FM so they can really prove their point that these kids are here to stay. I really wonder how the game would have changed had Noor and Pete competed in subsequent challenges since Pete was hotheaded at times so he could've created more drama and Noor was just an overall great athlete

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Already happened when JEK got total control and they were 2 FM guys taking over.

I didnt say it was wrong or right to like someone but hatred and love are two different things but sure (even tho i think your double standards dont make sense at all) thats your opinion.When i like someone on my TV is because of what they do and because somehow i identify with whatever they are/or do on the other hand i never hate anyone, maybe its just me but hate is strong word I dislike or find someone annoying due to their TV personalities or something that happened on the TV but hating on someone who did nothing but sign up for a reality show is pointless.

But hey enough of this lets hope that some new RW people put some new life into these shows.

And where are they now? And you do realize that RW was still in the majority in terms of cast at that time right? And it still is now too.

It's not just that they signed up for a reality show..It's how they ACTED on the show that makes me hate them. Not a single one FM/Camilla/AYTO had any real redeming qualities and on top of that none of them were entertaining in the least. I could at least tolerate them if they  were interesting and dynamic and had proved to be good for the show but they never did..all they did was make this show worse and I will forever hate those jackasses for it.

 

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

Wow never thought of that. They've never had 7 people from a RW season on TC together (I think)

I love FM, but damn that would sound like a sucky RW season. I think Laurel would be interesting to see on RW though, with her insecurities and bravado.

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Already happened when JEK got total control and they were 2 FM guys taking over.

I didnt say it was wrong or right to like someone but hatred and love are two different things but sure (even tho i think your double standards dont make sense at all) thats your opinion.When i like someone on my TV is because of what they do and because somehow i identify with whatever they are/or do on the other hand i never hate anyone, maybe its just me but hate is strong word I dislike or find someone annoying due to their TV personalities or something that happened on the TV but hating on someone who did nothing but sign up for a reality show is pointless.

But hey enough of this lets hope that some new RW people put some new life into these shows.

And where are they now? And you do realize that RW was still in the majority in terms of cast at that time right? And it still is now too.

It's not just that they signed up for a reality show..It's how they ACTED on the show that makes me hate them. Not a single one FM/Camilla/AYTO had any real redeming qualities and on top of that none of them were entertaining in the least. I could at least tolerate them if they  were interesting and dynamic and had proved to be good for the show but they never did..all they did was make this show worse and I will forever hate those jackasses for it.

 

 

Im not talking about the majority who cares about majority when all of them were puppets to JEK and the FM cast? FM casts have controled the house several seasons, as for the question of where they are now well Kenny and Evan had that lawsuit thing and moved on but at least they made more money combined that most RW people will ever dream of, Evelyn is considered elite and was champion on her last season, Laurel is elite and last season she appeared she won, Cara Maria is a top female competitor and her win is coming soon( i hope),Theresa is also a top female competitor,Aviv and Carley both won their respective seasons and moved on.

And if you want to blame someone for ruining the show blame the production its their damn fault they choose to cast FM people for so many challenges and not FMs fault.Dont hate the player hate the game...

 

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

Wow never thought of that. They've never had 7 people from a RW season on TC together (I think)

 

And they still managed to turn against eachother instead of teaming up >.<

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Already happened when JEK got total control and they were 2 FM guys taking over.

I didnt say it was wrong or right to like someone but hatred and love are two different things but sure (even tho i think your double standards dont make sense at all) thats your opinion.When i like someone on my TV is because of what they do and because somehow i identify with whatever they are/or do on the other hand i never hate anyone, maybe its just me but hate is strong word I dislike or find someone annoying due to their TV personalities or something that happened on the TV but hating on someone who did nothing but sign up for a reality show is pointless.

But hey enough of this lets hope that some new RW people put some new life into these shows.

And where are they now? And you do realize that RW was still in the majority in terms of cast at that time right? And it still is now too.

It's not just that they signed up for a reality show..It's how they ACTED on the show that makes me hate them. Not a single one FM/Camilla/AYTO had any real redeming qualities and on top of that none of them were entertaining in the least. I could at least tolerate them if they  were interesting and dynamic and had proved to be good for the show but they never did..all they did was make this show worse and I will forever hate those jackasses for it.

 

 

Im not talking about the majority who cares about majority when all of them were puppets to JEK and the FM cast? FM casts have controled the house several seasons, as for the question of where they are now well Kenny and Evan had that lawsuit thing and moved on but at least they made more money combined that most RW people will ever dream of, Evelyn is considered elite and was champion on her last season, Laurel is elite and last season she appeared she won, Cara Maria is a top female competitor and her win is coming soon( i hope),Theresa is also a top female competitor,Aviv and Carley both won their respective seasons and moved on.

And if you want to blame someone for ruining the show blame the production its their damn fault they choose to cast FM people for so many challenges and not FMs fault.Dont hate the player hate the game...

 

I know why those Idiots aren't on the shows anymore. I wasn't actually asking. And I don't care if they controlled the house THEY WERE STILL IN THE MINORITY IN NUMBERS! You're not getting my point....Fresh Meat may have run the game but there were still more people from RW than they were of FM regardless. They were allowed to control the game and you can't deny that. And you do realize that I don't really give a **** if they're good competitors right? I care more about entertainment and personality and they all flopped when it came to that.

And who said I didn't blame production?

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Already happened when JEK got total control and they were 2 FM guys taking over.

I didnt say it was wrong or right to like someone but hatred and love are two different things but sure (even tho i think your double standards dont make sense at all) thats your opinion.When i like someone on my TV is because of what they do and because somehow i identify with whatever they are/or do on the other hand i never hate anyone, maybe its just me but hate is strong word I dislike or find someone annoying due to their TV personalities or something that happened on the TV but hating on someone who did nothing but sign up for a reality show is pointless.

But hey enough of this lets hope that some new RW people put some new life into these shows.

And where are they now? And you do realize that RW was still in the majority in terms of cast at that time right? And it still is now too.

It's not just that they signed up for a reality show..It's how they ACTED on the show that makes me hate them. Not a single one FM/Camilla/AYTO had any real redeming qualities and on top of that none of them were entertaining in the least. I could at least tolerate them if they  were interesting and dynamic and had proved to be good for the show but they never did..all they did was make this show worse and I will forever hate those jackasses for it.

 

 

Im not talking about the majority who cares about majority when all of them were puppets to JEK and the FM cast? FM casts have controled the house several seasons, as for the question of where they are now well Kenny and Evan had that lawsuit thing and moved on but at least they made more money combined that most RW people will ever dream of, Evelyn is considered elite and was champion on her last season, Laurel is elite and last season she appeared she won, Cara Maria is a top female competitor and her win is coming soon( i hope),Theresa is also a top female competitor,Aviv and Carley both won their respective seasons and moved on.

And if you want to blame someone for ruining the show blame the production its their damn fault they choose to cast FM people for so many challenges and not FMs fault.Dont hate the player hate the game...

 

I know why those Idiots aren't on the shows anymore. I wasn't actually asking. And I don't care if they controlled the house THEY WERE STILL IN THE MINORITY IN NUMBERS! You're not getting my point....Fresh Meat may have run the game but there were still more people from RW than they were of FM regardless. They were allowed to control the game and you can't deny that. And you do realize that I don't really give a **** if they're good competitors right? I care more about entertainment and personality and they all flopped when it came to that.

And who said I didn't blame production?

Well then i rest my case, you always express your hate towards them and little to the production so i assumed that but that´s cool we have different opinions on what is entertaining and what is not, i care about good competitors performance wise and you care about more about their personalities, thats fine.

Still standing on my opinion, dont hate the players hate the game.

Yeah i wont argue with DA on HIS opinion nor will i will try to change it i was just expressing MY opinion towards his opinion but thats fine either way AYTO or other outsiders  will take over this show soon and you can hate them as much as you want while they keep making that money lol.

 

P.s: My whole point is that its completely pointless to hate someone you never met but thats just me Smile

LOL. No they won't. As long as RW is on they'll be the main ones..as it should be.

Well it's pointless to like someone you've never met either but people still do it don't they? This is reality show and yes we don't know this people but we're going to form opinions on these people based on what we see of them on these shows and those opinions are going to like/dislike/indifference etc. No different than what people do with celeberties on a daily basis.

 

Already happened when JEK got total control and they were 2 FM guys taking over.

I didnt say it was wrong or right to like someone but hatred and love are two different things but sure (even tho i think your double standards dont make sense at all) thats your opinion.When i like someone on my TV is because of what they do and because somehow i identify with whatever they are/or do on the other hand i never hate anyone, maybe its just me but hate is strong word I dislike or find someone annoying due to their TV personalities or something that happened on the TV but hating on someone who did nothing but sign up for a reality show is pointless.

But hey enough of this lets hope that some new RW people put some new life into these shows.

And where are they now? And you do realize that RW was still in the majority in terms of cast at that time right? And it still is now too.

It's not just that they signed up for a reality show..It's how they ACTED on the show that makes me hate them. Not a single one FM/Camilla/AYTO had any real redeming qualities and on top of that none of them were entertaining in the least. I could at least tolerate them if they  were interesting and dynamic and had proved to be good for the show but they never did..all they did was make this show worse and I will forever hate those jackasses for it.

 

 

Im not talking about the majority who cares about majority when all of them were puppets to JEK and the FM cast? FM casts have controled the house several seasons, as for the question of where they are now well Kenny and Evan had that lawsuit thing and moved on but at least they made more money combined that most RW people will ever dream of, Evelyn is considered elite and was champion on her last season, Laurel is elite and last season she appeared she won, Cara Maria is a top female competitor and her win is coming soon( i hope),Theresa is also a top female competitor,Aviv and Carley both won their respective seasons and moved on.

And if you want to blame someone for ruining the show blame the production its their damn fault they choose to cast FM people for so many challenges and not FMs fault.Dont hate the player hate the game...

 

I know why those Idiots aren't on the shows anymore. I wasn't actually asking. And I don't care if they controlled the house THEY WERE STILL IN THE MINORITY IN NUMBERS! You're not getting my point....Fresh Meat may have run the game but there were still more people from RW than they were of FM regardless. They were allowed to control the game and you can't deny that. And you do realize that I don't really give a **** if they're good competitors right? I care more about entertainment and personality and they all flopped when it came to that.

And who said I didn't blame production?

Well then i rest my case, you always express your hate towards them and little to the production so i assumed that but that´s cool we have different opinions on what is entertaining and what is not, i care about good competitors performance wise and you care about more about their personalities, thats fine.

Still standing on my opinion, dont hate the players hate the game.

Yeah. I do give FMalot of shit and not production. I blame production too but I don't speak on it.

But yeah.I'm more about the characters and personalitites and the competition comes second(for the most part). Mainly because alot of the times the competition is predicatble and boring.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

Wow never thought of that. They've never had 7 people from a RW season on TC together (I think)


They were close on the Gauntlet 3. People missing was Lacey and Wes.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

Wow never thought of that. They've never had 7 people from a RW season on TC together (I think)

They were close on the Gauntlet 3. People missing was Lacey and Wes.

It was so weird that whenever a new season was introduced they wouldn´t team up, i mean Austin got eachother´s back but for example when Key West debuted they gunned for eachother and i dont see much union between cast members from the same seasons :/

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

Wow never thought of that. They've never had 7 people from a RW season on TC together (I think)

They were close on the Gauntlet 3. People missing was Lacey and Wes.

Close but that's still only 5 haha. Exes 2 had 5 from Portland.

I wish if they were going to continue to cast FM2 that they would have tried to utilize Noor, Pete, and maybe even Jeff over Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Believe it or not I would've been okay with those three because I thought they would actually bring something to the show and not be horrible while doing it.(well Noor and Pete at least)

Yea definitely having Noor and Pete continue would have been good presences from FM2. Jeff I could take or leave but I still feel like he would be better than Brandon, Luke and Vinny.

Just realized everyone who continued from FM2 appeared on Cutthroat (Laurel, Cara, Theresa, Mandi, Brandon, Luke and Vinny). I always forget Vinny did that season.

And that's 7 people..3 guys and 4 girls. That's a Real World season right there.

Wow never thought of that. They've never had 7 people from a RW season on TC together (I think)

They were close on the Gauntlet 3. People missing was Lacey and Wes.

They were also close on Sexes 2 with San Diego 1 and X-Treme.

I need Casey Cooper back on my tv screen..

I need Casey Cooper back on my tv screen..

OMG we haven't had a Casey freak out in FOREVER ROFL

I love when she yelled at sarah in the ruins after she wouldnt do the wall walker challenge lol.. Casey was awesome on fresh meat and the duel, but she got annoying on the gauntlet 3.. But when she returned for the ruins it was amazing

I've always wondered why Casey has never come back after the ruins. Anyone know? I loved her even though people hate her

I only enjoyed Casey when she was paired with Wes on Fresh Meat 1. That was hilarious to watch.

Also loved her reaction and what she said directly to the camera after they beat Shane/Linette, throwing some shade on Linette since Linette didn't taught Casey was going to win, lol.

I've always wondered why Casey has never come back after the ruins. Anyone know? I loved her even though people hate her

I'd like to think that she realized that she'll be nothing more than utterly useless on these shows so she decided to retire.

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