Big Brother 17: Spoilers and Live Feed Discussion

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Vanessa as HOH...

1. "I'm just doing what's best for my game."

2. "I feel like I'm being bullied."

3. "I'm a really good person!"

I need to get the least amount of blood on my hands

Vanessa as HOH...

1. "I'm just doing what's best for my game."

2. "I feel like I'm being bullied."

3. "I'm a really good person!"

I need to get the least amount of blood on my hands

I forgot about that one. LOL

Vanessa can put up Steve & Austin and still play the middle

I can see her putting up one from each side and saying they are a pawn or some shit like that

I see her putting up Johnny Mac and Steve up. I just don't know who she really wants to keep. Steve does her dirty work but he's on to her while Johnny Mac is a wildcard.

I think she'll put up Austin and Johnny Mac

Never mind she's clearly going after Austin at this point. Then again Vanessa changes her mind so much who knows who'll be up.

Okay my final guess is that she'll put up Johnny Mac and Austin. Liz and Steve easily allow Vanessa to manipulate them while the other two are more likely to send her home.

Agreed, and she can ultimately control who gets evicted as the tiebreaker. 

Austin won't do good in this comp his fingers r to big I thibk

Liz would know...

If the boys were smart they would try and vote Julia out this week and then team up against Vanessa. They have to know that no one is going to beat her so why bring her? I'd rather bring Austin to final three. Only final HOH part he could win is physical. Money means more than your word, boys.

thats a big if....

on the last post, vanessa hinted she might target john.. oh no

If the boys were smart they would try and vote Julia out this week and then team up against Vanessa. They have to know that no one is going to beat her so why bring her? I'd rather bring Austin to final three. Only final HOH part he could win is physical. Money means more than your word, boys.

 

im assuming you meant Liz. but yeah austin wouldn't do that

Vanessa nominated Steve and Johnny Mac

Vanessa nominated Steve and Johnny Mac

Welp if Austin/Liz win POV, Vanessa better kiss away the prize.

Vanessa nominated Steve and Johnny Mac

Welp if Austin/Liz win POV, Vanessa better kiss away the prize.

Johnny Mac won...I really don't think she's concerned about Austin/Liz--she doesn't think they can beat her in the FHOH.  Could be a horrible mistake but I believe that's her logic.

We know Johnny will vote out whatever person she puts him.  Comes down to who is the bigger threat....Steve or Austin/Liz.   Is Steve?

I think for Vanessa's game she needs to get rid of Steve. I don't see Johnny Mac and Steve taking her to the finals while Austin and Liz are dumb enough to go through with it.

I think for Vanessa's game she needs to get rid of Steve. I don't see Johnny Mac and Steve taking her to the finals while Austin and Liz are dumb enough to go through with it.

She just needs her or Johnny Mac to win the next veto

Vanessa needs to separate Austin and Liz. Period.

Vanessa needs to separate Austin and Liz. Period.

Do you really think Johnny Mac and Steve would keep her around over the other half of Austwin? The answer is no. Like Vanessa said she's kind of ****** either way unless she wins veto although I do think she has a better chance with Austwin though.

Vanessa nominated Steve and Johnny Mac

Welp if Austin/Liz win POV, Vanessa better kiss away the prize.

Johnny Mac won...I really don't think she's concerned about Austin/Liz--she doesn't think they can beat her in the FHOH.  Could be a horrible mistake but I believe that's her logic.

We know Johnny will vote out whatever person she puts him.  Comes down to who is the bigger threat....Steve or Austin/Liz.   Is Steve?

Vanessa really needs to be concerned with Liz. Austin & Liz are a bigger threat than Steve IMO. Right now, Vanessa has to pick people who will take her to the final 2 is she loses FHOH. If the final 3 is Austin/Liz/Vanessa, the only way Vanessa can make it to the final 2 is if she wins the FHOH. Austin and Liz will take each other. Liz is a threat in mental competitions. Vanessa should have stayed with Johnny Mac and Steve because she has a better chance reaching the final 2 if she lost FHOH. Steve would have brought Vanessa into the final 2. Maybe Johnny Mac too. The best thing Vanessa needs to do now is put Liz up. The votes are going to be tie already and Vanessa herself needs to get blood on her hands and evict Liz. 

Vanessa needs to separate Austin and Liz. Period.

Do you really think Johnny Mac and Steve would keep her around over the other half of Austwin? The answer is no. Like Vanessa said she's kind of ****** either way unless she wins veto although I do think she has a better chance with Austwin though.

Austin and Liz are better at most comps than John/Steve

 Vanessa needs to send Liz packing. Period. 

 Vanessa needs to send Liz packing. Period. 

If she's going to send one of Austwin home why not Austin. Liz is still gunning for Steve for sending Julia home.

The thing is she already posses off Steve. Will Steve keep her if he wins knowing he was supposed to be working with her? No plus the fact Johnny Mac went up as well but Austin and Liz have a better chance of beating her in comps imo

 Vanessa needs to send Liz packing. Period. 

If she's going to send one of Austwin home why not Austin. Liz is still gunning for Steve for sending Julia home.

That hardly matters with the final 4 HOH comp and POV comp.

Vanessa will have more difficulty beating Liz them Austin in any type of comp.

I think for Vanessa's game she needs to get rid of Steve. I don't see Johnny Mac and Steve taking her to the finals while Austin and Liz are dumb enough to go through with it.

actually i think austin/liz would take each other

Vanessa nominated Steve and Johnny Mac

Welp if Austin/Liz win POV, Vanessa better kiss away the prize.

Johnny Mac won...I really don't think she's concerned about Austin/Liz--she doesn't think they can beat her in the FHOH.  Could be a horrible mistake but I believe that's her logic.

We know Johnny will vote out whatever person she puts him.  Comes down to who is the bigger threat....Steve or Austin/Liz.   Is Steve?

Vanessa will be the swing vote... Johnny won't vote out steve and liztin wont vote out each other.

Liztin is the bigger threat just because theyre a pair.. 

Vanessa nominated Steve and Johnny Mac

Welp if Austin/Liz win POV, Vanessa better kiss away the prize.

Johnny Mac won...I really don't think she's concerned about Austin/Liz--she doesn't think they can beat her in the FHOH.  Could be a horrible mistake but I believe that's her logic.

We know Johnny will vote out whatever person she puts him.  Comes down to who is the bigger threat....Steve or Austin/Liz.   Is Steve?

Vanessa really needs to be concerned with Liz. Austin & Liz are a bigger threat than Steve IMO. Right now, Vanessa has to pick people who will take her to the final 2 is she loses FHOH. If the final 3 is Austin/Liz/Vanessa, the only way Vanessa can make it to the final 2 is if she wins the FHOH. Austin and Liz will take each other. Liz is a threat in mental competitions. Vanessa should have stayed with Johnny Mac and Steve because she has a better chance reaching the final 2 if she lost FHOH. Steve would have brought Vanessa into the final 2. Maybe Johnny Mac too. The best thing Vanessa needs to do now is put Liz up. The votes are going to be tie already and Vanessa herself needs to get blood on her hands and evict Liz. 

i agree with everything you said.

Either way if she doesn't win veto next week she is gone

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