Big Brother 17: Spoilers and Live Feed Discussion

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John would put up Austin and Julia.

Julia would put up Steve and John.

Austin would put up Steve and John.

Vanessa would put up.... unknown cause we all know she's throwing that shit lmao. 

Would you say Nicole or Judd had no shot at winning either? I don't thin it's as cut and dry as you're not making it seem. I know In Big Brother Canada 1, someone who was evicted who returned was meant to win the game (one juror voted incorrectly lol topaz<3)

Yes, they had no chance at winning...especially Judd who was awful at the game.

I don't watch BB-C and never will but it is a good thing someone screwed up their vote--in the end they got it right.  An evictee should not win--you clearly didn't play the best game if you were evicted.

John would put up Austin and Julia.

Julia would put up Steve and John.

Austin would put up Steve and John.

Vanessa would put up.... unknown cause we all know she's throwing that shit lmao. 

Julia might throw up Austin with Steve

So let's say Vanessa left and came back, should she not win even though her game is, by far, the best of the season (although sloppy as hell)

Would you say Nicole or Judd had no shot at winning either? I don't thin it's as cut and dry as you're not making it seem. I know In Big Brother Canada 1, someone who was evicted who returned was meant to win the game (one juror voted incorrectly lol topaz<3)

Yes, they had no chance at winning...especially Judd who was awful at the game.

I don't watch BB-C and never will but it is a good thing someone screwed up their vote--in the end they got it right.  An evictee should not win--you clearly didn't play the best game if you were evicted.

also gary came back in f4.. SOOO unfair

Would you say Nicole or Judd had no shot at winning either? I don't thin it's as cut and dry as you're not making it seem. I know In Big Brother Canada 1, someone who was evicted who returned was meant to win the game (one juror voted incorrectly lol topaz<3)

Yes, they had no chance at winning...especially Judd who was awful at the game.

I don't watch BB-C and never will but it is a good thing someone screwed up their vote--in the end they got it right.  An evictee should not win--you clearly didn't play the best game if you were evicted.


Those two had a shot at winning, I don't see them being able to get there with the right people, but Judd definitely beats a Ginamarie and potentially a Spencer. Being evicted or not is irrelevant when people hate the person you're sitting next to or really liked you

Regardless of John being a returnee, even then he doesn't deserve to win the game. His only plausible shot at winning is sitting next to Julia, which won't happen because Vanessa and Steve would wipe the floor on them in most comps. My guess is Vanessa or Steve will find a way to make final 2 with Julia. Never each other.

What makes them think they are soooooooo entertaininguh and popuuuularuh  - probably going to get the at least the 25,000 for Americas fave - Bad

and Liz to Austin "You have the clown nose buddy boy, you crack me up 24hrs a dayuh"

A:I really wish we knew the outside perspective of them... L:Oh I knowuh

ummm NOT what you think austwits

Consistant top five Johnny, James, Jason, Meg, Jackie for last several weeks - they are clueless

purple fan ranking, black game play

Hope James wins AMF

So let's say Vanessa left and came back, should she not win even though her game is, by far, the best of the season (although sloppy as hell)

I don't think her game has been that sloppy but if she got evicted she wouldn't get my vote

Hope James wins AMF

It's going to be close between Johnny Mac and James

Hope James wins AMF

It's going to be close between Johnny Mac and James

I think James will win for sure

While her game play has definitely been sloppy, and she is probably out of the game with a more mature cast (seriously, I would've been the oldest person on this season) that is able to see the bigger picture, Vanessa has hands down done more than anyone if she were to make the finals.   The fact that she probably doesn't even need to try to win HOH this week speaks volumes (I do think Steve is smart enough to realize she needs to go soon).  It's almost as if no one wants to waste an HOH on her because they think they will get her out eventually.  She is positioned perfectly right now though.  While she has been emtional, obnoxious, and dramatic, I can't fathom the jury not awarding her the win.  I never really understood the bitter jury mentality, unless someone acted like a complete ***** in the social sense. 

While her game play has definitely been sloppy, and she is probably out of the game with a more mature cast (seriously, I would've been the oldest person on this season) that is able to see the bigger picture, Vanessa has hands down done more than anyone if she were to make the finals.   The fact that she probably doesn't even need to try to win HOH this week speaks volumes (I do think Steve is smart enough to realize she needs to go soon).  It's almost as if no one wants to waste an HOH on her because they think they will get her out eventually.  She is positioned perfectly right now though.  While she has been emtional, obnoxious, and dramatic, I can't fathom the jury not awarding her the win.  I never really understood the bitter jury mentality, unless someone acted like a complete ***** in the social sense. 

shes getting alot more sloppy... telling john that steve will go first, steve that john will go first, the austwins that steve is the target, john and steve that the austwins are out next... it will catch up to her; the question is, will it be too late?

While her game play has definitely been sloppy, and she is probably out of the game with a more mature cast (seriously, I would've been the oldest person on this season) that is able to see the bigger picture, Vanessa has hands down done more than anyone if she were to make the finals.   The fact that she probably doesn't even need to try to win HOH this week speaks volumes (I do think Steve is smart enough to realize she needs to go soon).  It's almost as if no one wants to waste an HOH on her because they think they will get her out eventually.  She is positioned perfectly right now though.  While she has been emtional, obnoxious, and dramatic, I can't fathom the jury not awarding her the win.  I never really understood the bitter jury mentality, unless someone acted like a complete ***** in the social sense. 

shes getting alot more sloppy... telling john that steve will go first, steve that john will go first, the austwins that steve is the target, john and steve that the austwins are out next... it will catch up to her; the question is, will it be too late?

Yeah. That is pretty damn sloppy. She better hope they don't compare notes and they all end up turning on her ***.

While her game play has definitely been sloppy, and she is probably out of the game with a more mature cast (seriously, I would've been the oldest person on this season) that is able to see the bigger picture, Vanessa has hands down done more than anyone if she were to make the finals.   The fact that she probably doesn't even need to try to win HOH this week speaks volumes (I do think Steve is smart enough to realize she needs to go soon).  It's almost as if no one wants to waste an HOH on her because they think they will get her out eventually.  She is positioned perfectly right now though.  While she has been emtional, obnoxious, and dramatic, I can't fathom the jury not awarding her the win.  I never really understood the bitter jury mentality, unless someone acted like a complete ***** in the social sense. 

shes getting alot more sloppy... telling john that steve will go first, steve that john will go first, the austwins that steve is the target, john and steve that the austwins are out next... it will catch up to her; the question is, will it be too late?

Yeah. That is pretty damn sloppy. She better hope they don't compare notes and they all end up turning on her ***.

 

This is going to happen. I just think it's going to be to late. 

I don't think its sloppy at all..I don't know how anyone thinks that is sloppy game play at F5

Vanessa for the win!

I don't think its sloppy at all..I don't know how anyone thinks that is sloppy game play at F5

 

It's only sloppy if she gets caught. She will either win or be out fourth( same reasoning as will on all stars) 

While her game play has definitely been sloppy, and she is probably out of the game with a more mature cast (seriously, I would've been the oldest person on this season) that is able to see the bigger picture, Vanessa has hands down done more than anyone if she were to make the finals.   The fact that she probably doesn't even need to try to win HOH this week speaks volumes (I do think Steve is smart enough to realize she needs to go soon).  It's almost as if no one wants to waste an HOH on her because they think they will get her out eventually.  She is positioned perfectly right now though.  While she has been emtional, obnoxious, and dramatic, I can't fathom the jury not awarding her the win.  I never really understood the bitter jury mentality, unless someone acted like a complete ***** in the social sense. 

shes getting alot more sloppy... telling john that steve will go first, steve that john will go first, the austwins that steve is the target, john and steve that the austwins are out next... it will catch up to her; the question is, will it be too late?

Yeah. That is pretty damn sloppy. She better hope they don't compare notes and they all end up turning on her ***.

 

This is going to happen. I just think it's going to be to late. 

agree.

but i also agree that its only sloppy if she gets caught.. which i think by that time itll be too late

The shit that Vanessa pulled today at the PoV by manipulating Julia to go against Austin has convinced me that Vanessa should and must win BB. 

ughhhh austin's stupid pony tail beard has GOT TO GO. its not attractive at all

Do we think Liz and Austin will get booed exiting the house?

Do we think Liz and Austin will get booed exiting the house?

i dont think its allowed? like they are obligated to atleast clap?

Do we think Liz and Austin will get booed exiting the house?

i dont think its allowed? like they are obligated to atleast clap?

christine got booed when she left last year 

The shit that Vanessa pulled today at the PoV by manipulating Julia to go against Austin has convinced me that Vanessa should and must win BB. 

Yeah, I didn't see that until right now...ridiculous game move

Liz and Julia are so easy to manipulate it's sickening.

They all talk shit about wanting Vanessa out but no one wants to pull the trigger *****.

I'm lowkey hoping that if John wins HOH, he puts up Vanessa and Liz.

I don't think its sloppy at all..I don't know how anyone thinks that is sloppy game play at F5

Unless you are in the final two it's considered sloppy because she still has the ability to get caught and sent home.

Liz and Julia are so easy to manipulate it's sickening.

They all talk shit about wanting Vanessa out but no one wants to pull the trigger *****.

I'm lowkey hoping that if John wins HOH, he puts up Vanessa and Liz.

I'm really hoping that Liz go to Jury tonight.If there is anytime Johnny Mac should and must win HoH, it's tonight. It's really bad and sad at this point of the game that Johnny Mac hasn't won a HoH. Vanessa will throw the HoH this week so she can play in the final 4 HoH. Worst case scenario for Vanessa is if Austin wins HoH. Julia is gun ho on getting Johnny Mac and Steve so Vanessa is somewhat safe unless one of them wins PoV. Austin is a changed man after winning PoV IMO. He might put Vanessa up.

Right now I think it's going to be Austin 5th, Steve - 4th, Julia - 3rd, Johnny Mac - Runner Up, Vanessa wins

I think Julia's going home so I'll go off of that. This is how I think shit will go down:

Austin wins HOH, puts up John and Steve, John wins POV, Vanessa and John on the block. Steve and Liz send Vanessa home.

Final 4

John wins HOH, puts up Austin and Liz, Steve wins POV, Steve sends Liz home.

Final 3: John, Austin, Steve. John wins endurance, Steve wins the other, John/Steve win the final HOH and take each othe rto the end. Steve is the winner of Big Brother.

Ideally though I want Vanessa to win but I do think she might be in trouble this week if she throws the HOH. Possibly.

 

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