The Challenge: Battle of the Bloodlines Discussion (SPOILERS)

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DA, I think you read what he/she said wrong. She/he said "...except when she has to go against Emily or Laurel". So that's 5 seasons with 3 finals so 3/5 is consistant.

Cara's finals....carried by Laurel, carried by Cooke, carried by Abram

And Nany has never really been carried the way Cara has. Alot the stuff Nany has done she's done on her own.

BECAUSE NANY DOESN'T MAKE IT FAR ENOUGH TO BE CARRIED. Laurel and Cooke would NEVER have made the finals if Cara Maria was that bad of a partner. Why didn't Camila or Nany make it further than her than?

Shitty partners can be carried. Wes and Casey on Fresh Meat 1 is a Prime example of this.

Don't even compare Casey to Cara Maria, please. Casey is the worst girl on every season she's been on. Cara Maria is at least in the top 5 on both Rivals seasons. Wes literally carried all of Casey's bags and all she had to do was walk.

1.  Casey wasn't the worst on The Ruins--Shauvon was there

2.  At the very least 5 were better than her on Rivals...Evelyn, Laurel, Paula, Jonna & Sarah...put Jasmine or Katelynn with Cara and she goes home first

True haha but she's still right there with her. Comparing Cara to Casey is a little extreme. I'd say Jenn was better than Cara before Jonna was. Jonna did very well for her rookie season but I think Cara would have taken her in something physical.

Cara being able to beat Jonna one on one doesn't mean Jonna wasn't better on the season.  Jonna's beating very few people in anything physical.  Jenn was also better than Cara on Rivals...so at best Cara was 7th.  Robin, Aneesa, Camila & Theresa weren't around long enough to accurately place them though Aneesa and Robin did well on the first mission.

While I think Nany is overrated, Cara will never live down the fact that she had Darrell/Laurel/Abe/Cooke as partners & still has yet to get a win.

Who loses with DARRELL? She didn't even have to be a superwoman, all she had to do was keep up like Aviv did.

Same with Laurel.

Also the fact that Cooke on her rookie season had to carry the then 6-time veteran Cara Maria...unacceptable.

She has improved a lot over the years but will she finally get a win? We'll see.


Darrell said that Wes & Kenny wanted him out early so Cara had no chance

Also, it's different to compare Cara's entire body of work vs. Nany's body of work and Cara right now vs. Nany right now.  Cara's early challenges blemish her entire body of work, but what she has done recently is way more impressive and probably more relevant.

But CM now >>>>> Nany.

Nany >>>>> CM then.

Just cause you don't win doesn't make you not a good competitor.

But that's the case being made against Nany though.

See but no one is saying Nany isn't good. We're just saying Cara is better.

But people have said she is overrated when that's not the case. Therefore implying that she sucks.

Overrated doesn't mean they suck--it means people make them out to be better than they are.  Which is accurate for Nany and Cara...probably Rachel Robinson too despite the fact she's great...overrated doesn't mean you suck or even close to it.  Nany is overrated by many

Perfectly said.

And you overrate Cara--you have to own that or you can't keep bashing DA.  

If this is really about who is better between Nany and Cara this is riduclous--they're in the same tier with different strengths

I don't really overrate Cara though. I've never said she was on the same leve as Emily or Laurel. I do think Cara is one of the better girls of recent years though and she gets better with every season. I also do 100% think she is better than Nany. I think Cara Maria is second tier and Nany is third tier.

To determine if you overrate Cara Maria--who do you put in a tier with her?  There's a lot of names that will immediately prove you overrate her.  The top tier is very, very small.  Evelyn, Laurel, Emily S, Emily B, Holly S and then probably Rachel & Jodi...that's it.  After that there's a drop.  Holly-Max Velocity maybe too.  Cara Maria's not in the next group.

Just cause you don't win doesn't make you not a good competitor.

But that's the case being made against Nany though.

I don't think Nany is an awful competitor. I just think she's pretty overrated. You come off as if you are trying to prove that Cara isn't a good competitor at all. I think Cara is a lot better than Nany. Both haven't won, but that doesn't mean either is a bad competitor. Can we agree on that? Or are you going to find something else to fight me on Wink

I don't think Cara is terrible. She's never been outright bad, I just don't think she is this great competitor everyone else thinks she is. So I'll agree that nether are horrible.

I can settle on that haha. Cara is one of my favorite's but I don't think she's an amazing competitor. I do think she does well every season (for the most part) and is someone to watch out for. I think a lot of people overrate her and I think a lot of people underrate her. I hate Nany because of the way she acts. However, I think Nany is pretty solid too but I don't think she has the showing that Cara Maria has. Whether she was carried or not I just haven't seen Nany show as much as Cara has.

While I think Nany is overrated, Cara will never live down the fact that she had Darrell/Laurel/Abe/Cooke as partners & still has yet to get a win.

Who loses with DARRELL? She didn't even have to be a superwoman, all she had to do was keep up like Aviv did.

Same with Laurel.

Also the fact that Cooke on her rookie season had to carry the then 6-time veteran Cara Maria...unacceptable.

She has improved a lot over the years but will she finally get a win? We'll see.

Darrell said that Wes & Kenny wanted him out early so Cara had no chance

Cara killed Darrell in Exile--Cara had a chance--she wasn't ready...thankfully she improved

If you lose with Darrell that will always and should always be held against you.

Nany is overrated because she was at one point considered super likeable.
But seriously.. Lol @ the people arguing with DA about Cara! I love when new members entertain vevmos resident troll!!! XD

I think Cara wants to win, but than again sometimes i think she likes being thrown in so she can play up her role as victm or "poor cara" and have things to talk about on twitter for the next 6 months. If she skates by and never goes in she is basically the person she is constantly *****ing about on twitter every season


Cara and Nany definatley are same tier, and both have weaknessess that have cost them.

Just cause you don't win doesn't make you not a good competitor.

But that's the case being made against Nany though.

I don't think Nany is an awful competitor. I just think she's pretty overrated. You come off as if you are trying to prove that Cara isn't a good competitor at all. I think Cara is a lot better than Nany. Both haven't won, but that doesn't mean either is a bad competitor. Can we agree on that? Or are you going to find something else to fight me on Wink

I don't think Cara is terrible. She's never been outright bad, I just don't think she is this great competitor everyone else thinks she is. So I'll agree that nether are horrible.

I can settle on that haha. Cara is one of my favorite's but I don't think she's an amazing competitor. I do think she does well every season (for the most part) and is someone to watch out for. I think a lot of people overrate her and I think a lot of people underrate her. I hate Nany because of the way she acts. However, I think Nany is pretty solid too but I don't think she has the showing that Cara Maria has. Whether she was carried or not I just haven't seen Nany show as much as Cara has.

This exactly sums up how I feel! I agree 100%..

I think Cara wants to win, but than again sometimes i think she likes being thrown in so she can play up her role as victm or "poor cara" and have things to talk about on twitter for the next 6 months. If she skates by and never goes in she is basically the person she is constantly *****ing about on twitter every season


LOL!


Cara and Nany definatley are same tier, and both have weaknessess that have cost them.

Just cause you don't win doesn't make you not a good competitor.

But that's the case being made against Nany though.

See but no one is saying Nany isn't good. We're just saying Cara is better.

But people have said she is overrated when that's not the case. Therefore implying that she sucks.

Overrated doesn't mean they suck--it means people make them out to be better than they are.  Which is accurate for Nany and Cara...probably Rachel Robinson too despite the fact she's great...overrated doesn't mean you suck or even close to it.  Nany is overrated by many

Perfectly said.

And you overrate Cara--you have to own that or you can't keep bashing DA.  

If this is really about who is better between Nany and Cara this is riduclous--they're in the same tier with different strengths

I don't really overrate Cara though. I've never said she was on the same leve as Emily or Laurel. I do think Cara is one of the better girls of recent years though and she gets better with every season. I also do 100% think she is better than Nany. I think Cara Maria is second tier and Nany is third tier.

To determine if you overrate Cara Maria--who do you put in a tier with her?  There's a lot of names that will immediately prove you overrate her.  The top tier is very, very small.  Evelyn, Laurel, Emily S, Emily B, Holly S and then probably Rachel & Jodi...that's it.  After that there's a drop.  Holly-Max Velocity maybe too.  Cara Maria's not in the next group.

I would say she's on a tier with people like Theresa, Paula, Sarah, Jenn, Camila and Aneesa. I would say Nany is close but she hasn't show enough for me personally to put her up there. I think a lot of the girls are interchangeable. I think there are some missions and eliminations that these people would beat her in and I think there are some missions and eliminations that she would beat them in.  I think for the most part she would beat Sarah or Paula in something physical. It's kind of hard to compare people because Cara Maria Cutthroat is different than Cara Maria Free Agents or 'Bloodlines'. Same goes for Jodi on the Duel compared to how she may compete on Free Agents.

While I think Nany is overrated, Cara will never live down the fact that she had Darrell/Laurel/Abe/Cooke as partners & still has yet to get a win.

Who loses with DARRELL? She didn't even have to be a superwoman, all she had to do was keep up like Aviv did.

Same with Laurel.

Also the fact that Cooke on her rookie season had to carry the then 6-time veteran Cara Maria...unacceptable.

She has improved a lot over the years but will she finally get a win? We'll see.

Darrell said that Wes & Kenny wanted him out early so Cara had no chance

Cara killed Darrell in Exile--Cara had a chance--she wasn't ready...thankfully she improved

If you lose with Darrell that will always and should always be held against you.

Low-Key this just made me think of Kevin Hart lol.

While I think Nany is overrated, Cara will never live down the fact that she had Darrell/Laurel/Abe/Cooke as partners & still has yet to get a win.

Who loses with DARRELL? She didn't even have to be a superwoman, all she had to do was keep up like Aviv did.

Same with Laurel.

Also the fact that Cooke on her rookie season had to carry the then 6-time veteran Cara Maria...unacceptable.

She has improved a lot over the years but will she finally get a win? We'll see.

Darrell said that Wes & Kenny wanted him out early so Cara had no chance

Cara killed Darrell in Exile--Cara had a chance--she wasn't ready...thankfully she improved

If you lose with Darrell that will always and should always be held against you.

Low-Key this just made me think of Kevin Hart lol.


*****!!!! Omg yes!!!!!

But seriously.. Lol @ the people arguing with DA about Cara! I love when new members entertain vevmos resident troll!!! XD

While I think Nany is overrated, Cara will never live down the fact that she had Darrell/Laurel/Abe/Cooke as partners & still has yet to get a win.

Who loses with DARRELL? She didn't even have to be a superwoman, all she had to do was keep up like Aviv did.

Same with Laurel.

Also the fact that Cooke on her rookie season had to carry the then 6-time veteran Cara Maria...unacceptable.

She has improved a lot over the years but will she finally get a win? We'll see.

Darrell said that Wes & Kenny wanted him out early so Cara had no chance

Cara killed Darrell in Exile--Cara had a chance--she wasn't ready...thankfully she improved

If you lose with Darrell that will always and should always be held against you.

Again I do agree with this. It was her first challenge and she had probably the best partner there. She was nervous, panicky, and wasn't ready. It doesn't necessarily mean that if they were to do the elimination again that they wouldn't win. It is definitely something that should be looked at negatively on her record though. Thankfully, Cara Maria FM isn't the same Cara Maria now. I think a lot of people fight about her and overrate/underrate her because she's a different competitor each season. I think she becomes stronger and gains more confidence each season she is on. I'm sure some people will disagree, but I would personally say she is one of the 'Most Improved' competitors of the challenge.

I'm confused if they're alternating between male and female days because if that were the case then co-ed pairs would be eligible every single time! That wouldn't be fair at all. I'm really interested to know what the format is. 

Just cause you don't win doesn't make you not a good competitor.

But that's the case being made against Nany though.

See but no one is saying Nany isn't good. We're just saying Cara is better.

But people have said she is overrated when that's not the case. Therefore implying that she sucks.

Overrated doesn't mean they suck--it means people make them out to be better than they are.  Which is accurate for Nany and Cara...probably Rachel Robinson too despite the fact she's great...overrated doesn't mean you suck or even close to it.  Nany is overrated by many

Perfectly said.

And you overrate Cara--you have to own that or you can't keep bashing DA.  

If this is really about who is better between Nany and Cara this is riduclous--they're in the same tier with different strengths

I don't really overrate Cara though. I've never said she was on the same leve as Emily or Laurel. I do think Cara is one of the better girls of recent years though and she gets better with every season. I also do 100% think she is better than Nany. I think Cara Maria is second tier and Nany is third tier.

To determine if you overrate Cara Maria--who do you put in a tier with her?  There's a lot of names that will immediately prove you overrate her.  The top tier is very, very small.  Evelyn, Laurel, Emily S, Emily B, Holly S and then probably Rachel & Jodi...that's it.  After that there's a drop.  Holly-Max Velocity maybe too.  Cara Maria's not in the next group.

I would say she's on a tier with people like Theresa, Paula, Sarah, Jenn, Camila and Aneesa. I would say Nany is close but she hasn't show enough for me personally to put her up there. I think a lot of the girls are interchangeable. I think there are some missions and eliminations that these people would beat her in and I think there are some missions and eliminations that she would beat them in.  I think for the most part she would beat Sarah or Paula in something physical. It's kind of hard to compare people because Cara Maria Cutthroat is different than Cara Maria Free Agents or 'Bloodlines'. Same goes for Jodi on the Duel compared to how she may compete on Free Agents.

She's not close to Jenn or Sarah heading into this challenge...not close.  

Theresa, Aneesa, Paula, etc--okay but Nany's on par with them as well.

Who Cara was on Cutthroat/FM still matters--that's part of her resume.

Are we 100% it is pairs or could it be teams where a player from both teams goes in and whomever losses is eliminated along with their bloodline?

Are we 100% it is pairs or could it be teams where a player from both teams goes in and whomever losses is eliminated along with their bloodline?

I put my money on this. It'd cause a lot of drama.

DA, I think you read what he/she said wrong. She/he said "...except when she has to go against Emily or Laurel". So that's 5 seasons with 3 finals so 3/5 is consistant.

Cara's finals....carried by Laurel, carried by Cooke, carried by Abram

And Nany has never really been carried the way Cara has. Alot the stuff Nany has done she's done on her own.

BECAUSE NANY DOESN'T MAKE IT FAR ENOUGH TO BE CARRIED. Laurel and Cooke would NEVER have made the finals if Cara Maria was that bad of a partner. Why didn't Camila or Nany make it further than her than?

Shitty partners can be carried. Wes and Casey on Fresh Meat 1 is a Prime example of this.

Don't even compare Casey to Cara Maria, please. Casey is the worst girl on every season she's been on. Cara Maria is at least in the top 5 on both Rivals seasons. Wes literally carried all of Casey's bags and all she had to do was walk.

1.  Casey wasn't the worst on The Ruins--Shauvon was there

2.  At the very least 5 were better than her on Rivals...Evelyn, Laurel, Paula, Jonna & Sarah...put Jasmine or Katelynn with Cara and she goes home first

True haha but she's still right there with her. Comparing Cara to Casey is a little extreme. I'd say Jenn was better than Cara before Jonna was. Jonna did very well for her rookie season but I think Cara would have taken her in something physical.

Cara being able to beat Jonna one on one doesn't mean Jonna wasn't better on the season.  Jonna's beating very few people in anything physical.  Jenn was also better than Cara on Rivals...so at best Cara was 7th.  Robin, Aneesa, Camila & Theresa weren't around long enough to accurately place them though Aneesa and Robin did well on the first mission.

I still think if Laurel could choose via school yard pick she would pick Cara over Jonna, Jasmine or Katelynn. Agreed about the rest being out to early to decide.

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While I think Nany is overrated, Cara will never live down the fact that she had Darrell/Laurel/Abe/Cooke as partners & still has yet to get a win.

Who loses with DARRELL? She didn't even have to be a superwoman, all she had to do was keep up like Aviv did.

Same with Laurel.

Also the fact that Cooke on her rookie season had to carry the then 6-time veteran Cara Maria...unacceptable.

She has improved a lot over the years but will she finally get a win? We'll see.

Darrell said that Wes & Kenny wanted him out early so Cara had no chance

Cara killed Darrell in Exile--Cara had a chance--she wasn't ready...thankfully she improved

If you lose with Darrell that will always and should always be held against you.

Low-Key this just made me think of Kevin Hart lol.

*****!!!! Omg yes!!!!!

Are we 100% it is pairs or could it be teams where a player from both teams goes in and whomever losses is eliminated along with their bloodline?

I'm hoping that that's what it is. It would really work with this format.

Just cause you don't win doesn't make you not a good competitor.

But that's the case being made against Nany though.

See but no one is saying Nany isn't good. We're just saying Cara is better.

But people have said she is overrated when that's not the case. Therefore implying that she sucks.

Overrated doesn't mean they suck--it means people make them out to be better than they are.  Which is accurate for Nany and Cara...probably Rachel Robinson too despite the fact she's great...overrated doesn't mean you suck or even close to it.  Nany is overrated by many

Perfectly said.

And you overrate Cara--you have to own that or you can't keep bashing DA.  

If this is really about who is better between Nany and Cara this is riduclous--they're in the same tier with different strengths

I don't really overrate Cara though. I've never said she was on the same leve as Emily or Laurel. I do think Cara is one of the better girls of recent years though and she gets better with every season. I also do 100% think she is better than Nany. I think Cara Maria is second tier and Nany is third tier.

To determine if you overrate Cara Maria--who do you put in a tier with her?  There's a lot of names that will immediately prove you overrate her.  The top tier is very, very small.  Evelyn, Laurel, Emily S, Emily B, Holly S and then probably Rachel & Jodi...that's it.  After that there's a drop.  Holly-Max Velocity maybe too.  Cara Maria's not in the next group.

I would say she's on a tier with people like Theresa, Paula, Sarah, Jenn, Camila and Aneesa. I would say Nany is close but she hasn't show enough for me personally to put her up there. I think a lot of the girls are interchangeable. I think there are some missions and eliminations that these people would beat her in and I think there are some missions and eliminations that she would beat them in.  I think for the most part she would beat Sarah or Paula in something physical. It's kind of hard to compare people because Cara Maria Cutthroat is different than Cara Maria Free Agents or 'Bloodlines'. Same goes for Jodi on the Duel compared to how she may compete on Free Agents.

She's not close to Jenn or Sarah heading into this challenge...not close.  

Theresa, Aneesa, Paula, etc--okay but Nany's on par with them as well.

Who Cara was on Cutthroat/FM still matters--that's part of her resume.

Not close to Jenn or Sarah? They are both solid but aren't that impressive. I would put Theresa above Sarah. I think Cara is a lot stronger than Sarah muscle wise. Endurance is hard to say. Jenn is hard to say too because she hasn't been on in a while. I agree the resume still counts but I am saying if Jodi is on the show now, she may be a lot weaker than she was on the Duel making her lower than a top tier competitor. I guess that's kind of stupid of me to say because in 10 years we can say that Laurel is no longer elite lol.

DA, I think you read what he/she said wrong. She/he said "...except when she has to go against Emily or Laurel". So that's 5 seasons with 3 finals so 3/5 is consistant.

Cara's finals....carried by Laurel, carried by Cooke, carried by Abram

And Nany has never really been carried the way Cara has. Alot the stuff Nany has done she's done on her own.

BECAUSE NANY DOESN'T MAKE IT FAR ENOUGH TO BE CARRIED. Laurel and Cooke would NEVER have made the finals if Cara Maria was that bad of a partner. Why didn't Camila or Nany make it further than her than?

Shitty partners can be carried. Wes and Casey on Fresh Meat 1 is a Prime example of this.

Don't even compare Casey to Cara Maria, please. Casey is the worst girl on every season she's been on. Cara Maria is at least in the top 5 on both Rivals seasons. Wes literally carried all of Casey's bags and all she had to do was walk.

1.  Casey wasn't the worst on The Ruins--Shauvon was there

2.  At the very least 5 were better than her on Rivals...Evelyn, Laurel, Paula, Jonna & Sarah...put Jasmine or Katelynn with Cara and she goes home first

True haha but she's still right there with her. Comparing Cara to Casey is a little extreme. I'd say Jenn was better than Cara before Jonna was. Jonna did very well for her rookie season but I think Cara would have taken her in something physical.

Cara being able to beat Jonna one on one doesn't mean Jonna wasn't better on the season.  Jonna's beating very few people in anything physical.  Jenn was also better than Cara on Rivals...so at best Cara was 7th.  Robin, Aneesa, Camila & Theresa weren't around long enough to accurately place them though Aneesa and Robin did well on the first mission.

I still think if Laurel could choose via school yard pick she would pick Cara over Jonna, Jasmine or Katelynn. Agreed about the rest being out to early to decide.

If she would take Cara over Jonna at that point in time...Jonna's better at puzzles (Laurel's one weakness) and has endurance...then Laurel's an idiot.  I'd take a dead person to be my partner and have to carry them over Jasmine or Katelynn but Jonna, regardless of who Laurel would pick, outperformed Cara on Rivals and Seasons

DA, I think you read what he/she said wrong. She/he said "...except when she has to go against Emily or Laurel". So that's 5 seasons with 3 finals so 3/5 is consistant.

Cara's finals....carried by Laurel, carried by Cooke, carried by Abram

And Nany has never really been carried the way Cara has. Alot the stuff Nany has done she's done on her own.

BECAUSE NANY DOESN'T MAKE IT FAR ENOUGH TO BE CARRIED. Laurel and Cooke would NEVER have made the finals if Cara Maria was that bad of a partner. Why didn't Camila or Nany make it further than her than?

Shitty partners can be carried. Wes and Casey on Fresh Meat 1 is a Prime example of this.

Don't even compare Casey to Cara Maria, please. Casey is the worst girl on every season she's been on. Cara Maria is at least in the top 5 on both Rivals seasons. Wes literally carried all of Casey's bags and all she had to do was walk.

1.  Casey wasn't the worst on The Ruins--Shauvon was there

2.  At the very least 5 were better than her on Rivals...Evelyn, Laurel, Paula, Jonna & Sarah...put Jasmine or Katelynn with Cara and she goes home first

True haha but she's still right there with her. Comparing Cara to Casey is a little extreme. I'd say Jenn was better than Cara before Jonna was. Jonna did very well for her rookie season but I think Cara would have taken her in something physical.

Cara being able to beat Jonna one on one doesn't mean Jonna wasn't better on the season.  Jonna's beating very few people in anything physical.  Jenn was also better than Cara on Rivals...so at best Cara was 7th.  Robin, Aneesa, Camila & Theresa weren't around long enough to accurately place them though Aneesa and Robin did well on the first mission.

I still think if Laurel could choose via school yard pick she would pick Cara over Jonna, Jasmine or Katelynn. Agreed about the rest being out to early to decide.

If she would take Cara over Jonna at that point in time...Jonna's better at puzzles (Laurel's one weakness) and has endurance...then Laurel's an idiot.  I'd take a dead person to be my partner and have to carry them over Jasmine or Katelynn but Jonna, regardless of who Laurel would pick, outperformed Cara on Rivals and Seasons

That was Jonna's first season. Laurel wouldn't know how Jonna's endurance is. Cara showed during the FM test that she was strong and fast. Also, Cara is bigger than Jonna. Assuming that there would be physically eliminations, it would make sense for Laurel to pick Cara over Jonna. Jonna outperformed Cara on Seasons yes, since Cara was out the third episode and Jonna lasted a while. Rivals I would say Jonna may have outperformed her too but it wasn't anything major in my book.

Are we 100% it is pairs or could it be teams where a player from both teams goes in and whomever losses is eliminated along with their bloodline?

I put my money on this. It'd cause a lot of drama.

I feel like they wouldn't be dumb enough to do this. What if Camila and Nany went home just because their bloodlines lost? idk just doesn't seem like a good idea. If it's not pairs the only thing I can think of is if one team votes someone in their bloodlines goes in with them. For example Alumni votes Stephen in and Bloodline votes Dario in the elimination becomes Dario/Raphy vs Thomas/Stephen. But that doesn't make sense either because they wouldn't let Jenna/Brianna go up against Dario/Raphy. 

Hopefully PR finds something out soon cause none of this makes sense lol 

Nany won the most dailies out of ANYONE on Free Agents, male or female Smile

Are we 100% it is pairs or could it be teams where a player from both teams goes in and whomever losses is eliminated along with their bloodline?

I put my money on this. It'd cause a lot of drama.

I feel like they wouldn't be dumb enough to do this. What if Camila and Nany went home just because their bloodlines lost? idk just doesn't seem like a good idea. If it's not pairs the only thing I can think of is if one team votes someone in their bloodlines goes in with them. For example Alumni votes Stephen in and Bloodline votes Dario in the elimination becomes Dario/Raphy vs Thomas/Stephen. But that doesn't make sense either because they wouldn't let Jenna/Brianna go up against Dario/Raphy. 

Hopefully PR finds something out soon cause none of this makes sense lol 

I think it's probably that but they would find a way for it to be same-sex pairs go against each other or they do an exile-like elimination like Both Fresh Meat seasons.

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