Jemmye and LaToya are not on or near the same level on FA, LaToya almost collapsed after the first challenge she did, her endurance definitely had major flaws on FA and honestly any other elimination round Jemmye would win in like 8 out of 10 times.
To be fare, LaToya did get her head slammed into a door or wall when Swift jumped on them, plus she was dehydrated...I wouldn't call her weak for that. I was just tell her to increase her water intake.
And I think Zach is a good competitor, not the greatest, def. overrated, but he is a chauvinistic a**hole, I'd put him in the same catagory as Kenny and Evan based on that aspect. No one should ever talk to a woman like that , or anyone for that matter.
Again, I don't understand how Zach can be seen as overrated? He has one of the best overall numbers since Rivals. On FA he showed no weakness prior the final, he even outperformed CT/Bananas on multiple challenges that season. He won against CJ in the tie-breaker, had one week finale performance ( which a lot of good people had too) and didn't do as well in an elimination round as one might think(surprsingly happened to most of the good ones too) but Jordan just flat out beasted that elimination round as TJ said. It wasn't like Zach couldn't hammer at all. It was more about the technique and not based purely on strength, anybody who used a hammer before knows that...
If what Susie, Sarah and Veronica said are true, most men on the challenge are /were chauvinistic *****s and think the exact same way as Zach/Reily and Jordan when it comes to female competitors.
Problem for those three were that MTV decided to show it...
I also don't think free agents was a weak competitive pool either for girls either
There were actually a lot of lucky scrnarios for Laurel. it just so happened that
cara broke her hand
nia had to go against cara
Camilla theresa had to knock each other out
basically anyone that was a threat to Laurel was taken care of by someone not laurel. All of laurels threats basically fed on each other
laurel did personally beat Theresa(puzzle and not balls in or final), nany(6 ninutes), and aneesa(1.5 steps between both rounds). She sweated in all 3 scenarios
cara without a broken hand could've gotten Oppenheimer with laurel
nia could've gotten balls in or anything with Laurel
cara, camila, theresa all could've and should've (at least 1 or 2 of them) showed up with Laurel in the final and that would've been scary.
^^^all ugly and very reasonable situations that never occurred
Laurel actually had an easy and unlikely final geared in favor of her since it was literally just her vs nany since Devyn is irrelevant. She had some luck involved here imo. Her only unfortunate situation here was getting aneesa in an elimination round but that was really the only time where she had to actually get her hands dirty
Jemmye and LaToya are not on or near the same level on FA, LaToya almost collapsed after the first challenge she did, her endurance definitely had major flaws on FA and honestly any other elimination round Jemmye would win in like 8 out of 10 times.
To be fare, LaToya did get her head slammed into a door or wall when Swift jumped on them, plus she was dehydrated...I wouldn't call her weak for that. I was just tell her to increase her water intake.
And I think Zach is a good competitor, not the greatest, def. overrated, but he is a chauvinistic a**hole, I'd put him in the same catagory as Kenny and Evan based on that aspect. No one should ever talk to a woman like that , or anyone for that matter.
Again, I don't understand how Zach can be seen as overrated? He has one of the best overall numbers since Rivals. On FA he showed no weakness prior the final, he even outperformed CT/Bananas on multiple challenges that season. He won against CJ in the tie-breaker, had one week finale performance ( which a lot of good people had too) and didn't do as well in an elimination round as one might think(surprsingly happened to most of the good ones too) but Jordan just flat out beasted that elimination round as TJ said. It wasn't like Zach couldn't hammer at all. It was more about the technique and not based purely on strength, anybody who used a hammer before knows that... If what Susie, Sarah and Veronica said are true, most men on the challenge are /were chauvinistic *****s and think the exact same way as Zach/Reily and Jordan when it comes to female competitors. Problem for those three were that MTV decided to show it...
Theres a difference between Zach laying on the ground saying he is going to die for a long time then getting beat up the mountain by Laurel and Nany than how others have done. Bananas didn't do "terrible" on Rivals 2 he just didn't do as good. He didn't stop and lay on the ground he just wasn't as good as he normally is. CT just slowed down on Exes but I'll give you that one cause I think he did lay for a bit. Whoever mentioned Emily and Laurel doing terrible doesn't make sense either they just didn't do as well as everyone else. To me doing terrible is going Devyn pace or gassing out and laying on the ground. Zachs final performance is by far the worst of anyone you have mentioned.
I also don't think free agents was a weak competitive pool either for girls either
There were actually a lot of lucky scrnarios for Laurel. it just so happened that
cara broke her hand
nia had to go against cara
Camilla theresa had to knock each other out
basically anyone that was a threat to Laurel was taken care of by someone not laurel. All of laurels threats basically fed on each other
laurel did personally beat Theresa(puzzle and not balls in or final), nany(6 ninutes), and aneesa(1.5 steps between both rounds). She sweated in all 3 scenarios
cara without a broken hand could've gotten Oppenheimer with laurel
nia could've gotten balls in or anything with Laurel
cara, camila, theresa all could've and should've (at least 1 or 2 of them) showed up with Laurel in the final and that would've been scary.
^^^all ugly and very reasonable situations that never occurred
Laurel actually had an easy and unlikely final geared in favor of her since it was literally just her vs nany since Devyn is irrelevant. She had some luck involved here imo. Her only unfortunate situation here was getting aneesa in an elimination round but that was really the only time where she had to actually get her hands dirty
Honestly when the cast was first revealed the only person I thought that could have beaten Laurel in an elimination was Aneesa. I don't think anyone else could have beaten her.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach's performance on Free Agents showed how much of an elite competitor he is. He messed up on the Final but he was the top male athlete. And *** do u mean every elimination hes been in proved he is overrated? He MURDERED Brandon and fairly beat Leroy and Ty. And in that last match of Hall Brawl CJ learned he couldnt go low anymore so thats why he went aganist Zach head to head- and was pushed back like Wes was with Bg Easy.
He didn't fairly beat Ty and Leroy hence the reason he went home
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
Again, Zach won Hall Brawl in the end, by winning the tie-breaker with 2-1. CJ previous wins don't mean anything in the end as only the tie-breaker counted and that Zach won by 2-1 which automatically means that Zach had better endurance than CJ. Zach only really bad performance were that Hammer elimination and the finale, but again almost every single good player did terrible in a final, Bananas did terrible in the Rivals 2 finale, CT did terrible in the Exes 1 finale, Laurel did terrible in the Fresh Meat 2 finale (and Emily on Cutthroat), Sarah did terrible on Cutthroat, Wes did terrible in the Rivals 1 finale or almost everybody of the good people lost an elimination round or came close to losing it despite going in with a big advantage (even Darrell and Landon).
Please go on lol, Zach DQ in his other loss, doesn't mean he performed bad in that elimination round and Zach DQ in that Speed Dating challenge doesn't mean he performed bad in that either, I mean they still did 10 balls.
Overall though, CJ beat Zach 3-2. In the first heat, CJ won two points. In the second heat, CJ got the first point while Zach got the other two. I still think CJ should've won because he had the most points but that's just my opinion.
I also don't think free agents was a weak competitive pool either for girls either
There were actually a lot of lucky scrnarios for Laurel. it just so happened that
cara broke her hand
nia had to go against cara
Camilla theresa had to knock each other out
basically anyone that was a threat to Laurel was taken care of by someone not laurel. All of laurels threats basically fed on each other
laurel did personally beat Theresa(puzzle and not balls in or final), nany(6 ninutes), and aneesa(1.5 steps between both rounds). She sweated in all 3 scenarios
cara without a broken hand could've gotten Oppenheimer with laurel
nia could've gotten balls in or anything with Laurel
cara, camila, theresa all could've and should've (at least 1 or 2 of them) showed up with Laurel in the final and that would've been scary.
^^^all ugly and very reasonable situations that never occurred
Laurel actually had an easy and unlikely final geared in favor of her since it was literally just her vs nany since Devyn is irrelevant. She had some luck involved here imo. Her only unfortunate situation here was getting aneesa in an elimination round but that was really the only time where she had to actually get her hands dirty
Because of Zach. Overall Laurel did way better than Nany in that final.
PR, just wondering did cara maria, marie and cooke get first round calls?
I know 2 of the 3 mentioned got calls
I hope its Marie and Cooke! That would be perfect! CM can stay home please
I too hope it's Cooke and Marie. I really don't want to see Cara again(and honestly I hope she gets blacklisted from the shows). It's been so good to have a season where we don't have to put up with her shit.
Jemmye and LaToya are not on or near the same level on FA, LaToya almost collapsed after the first challenge she did, her endurance definitely had major flaws on FA and honestly any other elimination round Jemmye would win in like 8 out of 10 times.
To be fare, LaToya did get her head slammed into a door or wall when Swift jumped on them, plus she was dehydrated...I wouldn't call her weak for that. I was just tell her to increase her water intake.
And I think Zach is a good competitor, not the greatest, def. overrated, but he is a chauvinistic a**hole, I'd put him in the same catagory as Kenny and Evan based on that aspect. No one should ever talk to a woman like that , or anyone for that matter.
Again, I don't understand how Zach can be seen as overrated? He has one of the best overall numbers since Rivals. On FA he showed no weakness prior the final, he even outperformed CT/Bananas on multiple challenges that season. He won against CJ in the tie-breaker, had one week finale performance ( which a lot of good people had too) and didn't do as well in an elimination round as one might think(surprsingly happened to most of the good ones too) but Jordan just flat out beasted that elimination round as TJ said. It wasn't like Zach couldn't hammer at all. It was more about the technique and not based purely on strength, anybody who used a hammer before knows that... If what Susie, Sarah and Veronica said are true, most men on the challenge are /were chauvinistic *****s and think the exact same way as Zach/Reily and Jordan when it comes to female competitors. Problem for those three were that MTV decided to show it...
Theres a difference between Zach laying on the ground saying he is going to die for a long time then getting beat up the mountain by Laurel and Nany than how others have done. Bananas didn't do "terrible" on Rivals 2 he just didn't do as good. He didn't stop and lay on the ground he just wasn't as good as he normally is. CT just slowed down on Exes but I'll give you that one cause I think he did lay for a bit. Whoever mentioned Emily and Laurel doing terrible doesn't make sense either they just didn't do as well as everyone else. To me doing terrible is going Devyn pace or gassing out and laying on the ground. Zachs final performance is by far the worst of anyone you have mentioned.
Zach performance on FA final was terrible, but Bananas was also terrible considering that he beasted the Rivals/Exes finals. Prior to that final, Bananas, the four time champion, threw up and gassed out after a three minute long challenge and throughout the whole final, Frank constantly had to wait for Bananas to catch him up, whether it was the swimming or the running, he couldn't solve a basic 6th grade math equation and was basically useless in those other basic children puzzles in that final and was edited a being a ***** in the eating part and constantly complained about the stuff they had to eat/do. By his standards, understanding of his abilities and mocking CT/Wes for performing terrible in finals, Bananas did terrible, because he went Devyn pace in that final.
Laurel definitely hold Kenny down in that Fresh Meat final (especially since she saw herself as the best fresh meat) and she was literally about to quit on Cutthroat whereas Cara Maria and Luke didn't as seen in these pictures, especially since she saw herself as being the best girl or even the best person on the gray team (again!). What she says/said in the confessionals, is just the same as Zach's dying.
Throughout the whole Cutthroat challenge, Emily was also pretty much the entire time behind Jenn and she also had major problems with that dummy Ted.
In a way, for all the potential and abilities Laurel&Emily had and were praised throughout Cutthroat, they did terrible. Emily however performed just like the usual rookie-first-challenge-first-finals. Doing terrible doesn't always mean they have to lay down to be viewed as terrible if you perform way below your standards/potential/or what you constantly say you're going to do in a final, then you perform terrible which is what Bananas, Laurel and Emily did. Sarah, Abram, Wes, CT is no question about why they did terrible.
Overall though, CJ beat Zach 3-2. In the first heat, CJ won two points. In the second heat, CJ got the first point while Zach got the other two. I still think CJ should've won because he had the most points but that's just my opinion.
It wasn't a best out-of-five series with CJ and Zach, so you can't put the points together. CJ won the first round, Zach the tie-breaker which counts more.
PR, just wondering did cara maria, marie and cooke get first round calls?
I know 2 of the 3 mentioned got calls
I hope its Marie and Cooke! That would be perfect! CM can stay home please
I too hope it's Cooke and Marie. I really don't want to see Cara again(and honestly I hope she gets blacklisted from the shows). It's been so good to have a season where we don't have to put up with her shit.
They all 3 may have gotten calls, but I know for certain 2 of them did.
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
For some reason I always thought you liked Laurel.
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
However, Laurel broke down even way after carrying Cara, she was mentally broken when they arrived on that sign puzzle. I think Laurel acted wayy to cocky throughout that season (I'm better than every person on my grey team!") to almost quitting the final, so in a way she set herself up and that final never ever came close to how she looked at herself and praised herself and her abilities which means she did terrible in her own definition/mind set. She did the exact same thing on FM2 were she also didn't performed as good as she thought she would.
I think Devyn had a far worse performance imo (and by the time), because Devyn knew she had no chance and was basically just the short straw in every round whereas Zach was still in the running, but just couldn't make it work and Laurel wasn't a help either.
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
For some reason I always thought you liked Laurel.
You probably think that because I include her on any cast in which I want the best of the best. I don't like Evelyn either but they're both great competitors so I don't mind when they're on. I can deal with annoying but elite competitor far better than the opposite of that. Like Devyn is useless to me
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
For some reason I always thought you liked Laurel.
You probably think that because I include her on any cast in which I want the best of the best. I don't like Evelyn either but they're both great competitors so I don't mind when they're on. I can deal with annoying but elite competitor far better than the opposite of that. Like Devyn is useless to me
You really think that we will get a challenge where it's the best of the best?
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
For some reason I always thought you liked Laurel.
You probably think that because I include her on any cast in which I want the best of the best. I don't like Evelyn either but they're both great competitors so I don't mind when they're on. I can deal with annoying but elite competitor far better than the opposite of that. Like Devyn is useless to me
You really think that we will get a challenge where it's the best of the best?
No, I don't think we will now but I think we could have when the original "Final Duel" rumors surfaced. No we're going to get the same people over and over again with stupid formats.
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
For some reason I always thought you liked Laurel.
You probably think that because I include her on any cast in which I want the best of the best. I don't like Evelyn either but they're both great competitors so I don't mind when they're on. I can deal with annoying but elite competitor far better than the opposite of that. Like Devyn is useless to me
You really think that we will get a challenge where it's the best of the best?
No, I don't think we will now but I think we could have when the original "Final Duel" rumors surfaced. No we're going to get the same people over and over again with stupid formats.
I really want to see Bruno and Ashley Kelsey on a challenge together now that they are dating..
Again, I don't understand how Zach can be seen as overrated? He has one of the best overall numbers since Rivals. On FA he showed no weakness prior the final, he even outperformed CT/Bananas on multiple challenges that season. He won against CJ in the tie-breaker, had one week finale performance ( which a lot of good people had too) and didn't do as well in an elimination round as one might think(surprsingly happened to most of the good ones too) but Jordan just flat out beasted that elimination round as TJ said. It wasn't like Zach couldn't hammer at all. It was more about the technique and not based purely on strength, anybody who used a hammer before knows that...
If what Susie, Sarah and Veronica said are true, most men on the challenge are /were chauvinistic *****s and think the exact same way as Zach/Reily and Jordan when it comes to female competitors.
Problem for those three were that MTV decided to show it...
What if next seasons was Adults vs Children......
Adults = Maried, Parents, Real Jobs
Children = Single & Looking for Just A Good Time
or call it Battle of Maturity - Bam!
(I'm bored and think of these things randomly...#superfan)
Most of them would be children.
The Adults are done with the show if your on still your a child haha
Theres a difference between Zach laying on the ground saying he is going to die for a long time then getting beat up the mountain by Laurel and Nany than how others have done. Bananas didn't do "terrible" on Rivals 2 he just didn't do as good. He didn't stop and lay on the ground he just wasn't as good as he normally is. CT just slowed down on Exes but I'll give you that one cause I think he did lay for a bit. Whoever mentioned Emily and Laurel doing terrible doesn't make sense either they just didn't do as well as everyone else. To me doing terrible is going Devyn pace or gassing out and laying on the ground. Zachs final performance is by far the worst of anyone you have mentioned.
Honestly when the cast was first revealed the only person I thought that could have beaten Laurel in an elimination was Aneesa. I don't think anyone else could have beaten her.
He didn't fairly beat Ty and Leroy hence the reason he went home
Overall though, CJ beat Zach 3-2. In the first heat, CJ won two points. In the second heat, CJ got the first point while Zach got the other two. I still think CJ should've won because he had the most points but that's just my opinion.
Jemmye sucks, LaToya is much better.
I hope its Marie and Cooke! That would be perfect! CM can stay home please
Because of Zach. Overall Laurel did way better than Nany in that final.
I too hope it's Cooke and Marie. I really don't want to see Cara again(and honestly I hope she gets blacklisted from the shows). It's been so good to have a season where we don't have to put up with her shit.
Zach performance on FA final was terrible, but Bananas was also terrible considering that he beasted the Rivals/Exes finals. Prior to that final, Bananas, the four time champion, threw up and gassed out after a three minute long challenge and throughout the whole final, Frank constantly had to wait for Bananas to catch him up, whether it was the swimming or the running, he couldn't solve a basic 6th grade math equation and was basically useless in those other basic children puzzles in that final and was edited a being a ***** in the eating part and constantly complained about the stuff they had to eat/do. By his standards, understanding of his abilities and mocking CT/Wes for performing terrible in finals, Bananas did terrible, because he went Devyn pace in that final.
Laurel definitely hold Kenny down in that Fresh Meat final (especially since she saw herself as the best fresh meat) and she was literally about to quit on Cutthroat whereas Cara Maria and Luke didn't as seen in these pictures, especially since she saw herself as being the best girl or even the best person on the gray team (again!). What she says/said in the confessionals, is just the same as Zach's dying.
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Throughout the whole Cutthroat challenge, Emily was also pretty much the entire time behind Jenn and she also had major problems with that dummy Ted.
In a way, for all the potential and abilities Laurel&Emily had and were praised throughout Cutthroat, they did terrible. Emily however performed just like the usual rookie-first-challenge-first-finals.
Doing terrible doesn't always mean they have to lay down to be viewed as terrible if you perform way below your standards/potential/or what you constantly say you're going to do in a final, then you perform terrible which is what Bananas, Laurel and Emily did.
Sarah, Abram, Wes, CT is no question about why they did terrible.
It wasn't a best out-of-five series with CJ and Zach, so you can't put the points together. CJ won the first round, Zach the tie-breaker which counts more.
They all 3 may have gotten calls, but I know for certain 2 of them did.
Most likely Caramaria.....ew
Laurel is an ugly crier.
If i absolutely have to cry i always make sure my outfit and hair game is on point!
Well I didn't mean it in that sense, but okay.
That's me 25 hours a day, 8 days a week.
****!
Laurel had the most difficult job of any of the girls during the Cutthroat final as she had to support Cara's weight the whole time because Cara was too weak to help. Emily & Jenn pretty much gave up as soon as they saw that--understandable. Tori & Cara got carried--that's truly pathetic. Laurel was impressive despite the breakdown and I hate Laurel
Zach's performance on the FA final was the worst performance of anyone that didn't quit...that includes Devyn. Devyn didn't act like a *****. Zach did
For some reason I always thought you liked Laurel.
However, Laurel broke down even way after carrying Cara, she was mentally broken when they arrived on that sign puzzle. I think Laurel acted wayy to cocky throughout that season (I'm better than every person on my grey team!") to almost quitting the final, so in a way she set herself up and that final never ever came close to how she looked at herself and praised herself and her abilities which means she did terrible in her own definition/mind set. She did the exact same thing on FM2 were she also didn't performed as good as she thought she would.
I think Devyn had a far worse performance imo (and by the time), because Devyn knew she had no chance and was basically just the short straw in every round whereas Zach was still in the running, but just couldn't make it work and Laurel wasn't a help either.
You probably think that because I include her on any cast in which I want the best of the best. I don't like Evelyn either but they're both great competitors so I don't mind when they're on. I can deal with annoying but elite competitor far better than the opposite of that. Like Devyn is useless to me
You really think that we will get a challenge where it's the best of the best?
No, I don't think we will now but I think we could have when the original "Final Duel" rumors surfaced. No we're going to get the same people over and over again with stupid formats.
When was that? Right with Rivals/Rivals 2?
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