Now I would pay to see Darrell vs Leroy. But I think something like Robb vs Adam would be just as good. Robb is huge and Adam held his own against Bananas.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
Now I would pay to see Darrell vs Leroy. But I think something like Robb vs Adam would be just as good. Robb is huge and Adam held his own against Bananas.
I actually think that Robb vs Zach would be good to see.
Jordan and Frank would be a good match-up too.
Dustin and Johnny(Portland) would be a solid bout too.
Exes 2--Jay & Jenna haven't been sent in. Thomas & Hailey were only sent in when they were to give Johnny R an easy win. Again, those that finished last were
Rivals 2--Jordan & Marlon didn't get voted in the first 3 times
It simply isn't true. When there were team competitions rookies that were deemed weak went in or rookies that were on a team with a huge alliance (Brad/Dunar/Tyler/Tori/Paula/Melinda)
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Well, I honestly think Jay & Jenna were going to be voted in at some point, hadden't Jeymmey and Knight not been eliminated.
Also, they had AYTO people in the house, which took priorities over J/J and Thomas and Hailey.
Rivals 2 also depended much more on the opposite ***. Jordan had his appeal so, that's how he got his by for a bit.
Now I would pay to see Darrell vs Leroy. But I think something like Robb vs Adam would be just as good. Robb is huge and Adam held his own against Bananas.
No where near just as good IMO. It would be good but not close to Leroy vs Darrell.
I don't see the appeal of watching two scrubs fight to see who sucks less. I don't give a **** about it being "fresh" if they are weak.
And I don't see the appeal of watching 2 overused ******** fight to see who's "Stronger" besides like someone said CT/Zach wouldn't be all that good probably. Zach has merit but he's nowhere near as good as CT is.
And who knows..Jay/Preston could be good depending on the elimination.
Forget CT & Zach, use Leroy & Darrell instead, my point was two strong competitors in a elimination is much better than two scrubs.
I don't see the appeal of watching two scrubs fight to see who sucks less. I don't give a **** about it being "fresh" if they are weak.
And I don't see the appeal of watching 2 overused ******** fight to see who's "Stronger" besides like someone said CT/Zach wouldn't be all that good probably. Zach has merit but he's nowhere near as good as CT is.
And who knows..Jay/Preston could be good depending on the elimination.
Forget CT & Zach, use Leroy & Darrell instead, my point was two strong competitors in a elimination is much better than two scrubs.
I get your point and it's not always true. It can be boring as **** sometimes. Johnny/Camilla and Mark/Robin is a good example of this.
And like I said before it's especially not all that appealing when you hate both of the people in the elimination. Kinda like the Laruel/Theresa elimination last season.
I don't see the appeal of watching two scrubs fight to see who sucks less. I don't give a **** about it being "fresh" if they are weak.
And I don't see the appeal of watching 2 overused ******** fight to see who's "Stronger" besides like someone said CT/Zach wouldn't be all that good probably. Zach has merit but he's nowhere near as good as CT is.
And who knows..Jay/Preston could be good depending on the elimination.
Forget CT & Zach, use Leroy & Darrell instead, my point was two strong competitors in a elimination is much better than two scrubs.
Not always.
Most times it is, there are a few exceptions like Latoya & Jemmye.
It also depends on the elimination round itself, if its a bad one than it doesn't matter whose in it. It could be Leroy vs Darrell and if it's I can then it sucks.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach's performance on Free Agents showed how much of an elite competitor he is. He messed up on the Final but he was the top male athlete.
And *** do u mean every elimination hes been in proved he is overrated? He MURDERED Brandon and fairly beat Leroy and Ty. And in that last match of Hall Brawl CJ learned he couldnt go low anymore so thats why he went aganist Zach head to head- and was pushed back like Wes was with Bg Easy.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
In the end, Zach was the one that won the tie-breaker as soon as he figured out how CJ's strategy was as you could see, how he just jumped over him one time which means CJ's three wins don't mean a single thing if you don't win the whole thing for your team and Zach did it and CJ didn't, because he g***ed out in the end.
Just for some guys here, Zach has been top 4 challenger based on performance since Rivals. You might think he's overrated, but the numbers (which don't lie and is the most neutral thing) actually prove that he is one of the most consistent challengers: Bananas, CT, Zach and Frank, everybody else doesn't even come close (with only mabye Tyler, but he only did Rivals)
Rivals 1: Bananas won three daily challenges, eliminations: 1 win
CT won two daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations: 1 win: 1 loss
Exes 1: Bananas won three daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations 1 win
CT won two daily challenges
Seasons2: Zach won four daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations 2 wins
Frank won four daily challenges, came in last once, eliminations 1 win
Rivals 2: Zach won two daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations 1 loss
Bananas/Frank won two daily challenges, CT won three daily challenges
FA: Zach won four daily challenges, eliminations 1 win
Bananas won four daily challenges, eliminations 3 wins
CT won four daily challenges, eliminations 1 win, 1 loss
Frank won no daily challenge, eliminations 2 win
Exes2: Bananas won one daily challenge, eliminations 2 losses (Battle of the Ex-iled are no elimination rounds on BOTE since per definition it's the dome), winning the Battle of the Ex-iled competition
Zach won one daily challenge, elimination 1 loss, lost the Battle of the Ex-iled
Summary: Bananas won 13 daily challenges ( out of 42 daily challenges), winning precentage 30.95 % came in last once, eliminiations: 5:2, winning Battle of the Ex-iled, 3 finals won, 1 finals loss (his fault)
Zach won 11 daily challenges (out of 34 daily challenges), winning precentage 32.35 %, came in last once, eliminations: 3:2 (I think only one was his fault, with Jonna, IMO even if Zach would've won against Jordan, Sarah would've won against Jonna pretty easy and would take the lead there), losing Battle of the Ex-iled, 1 finals won, 1 finals loss (his fault)
CT won 11 daily challenges (out of 37 daily challenges), winning precentage 29.73 %, came in last once, eliminations: 2:2, 1 final win, 1 final loss (his fault)
Frank won 6 daily challenges (out of 22 daily challenges), winning precentage 27.27 %, came in last once, eliminations 3:0, 1 final win, 1 final loss (not his fault)
Tell me, how is Zach overrated, based on those numbers? CT/Bananas/Zach all three had a pretty shit performance in a final (Exes, Rivals2 and FA), everybody lost two elimination rounds and everybody lost one elimination round were they were favorites to win (Bananas with Leroy since he's the bigger/stronger guy, CT with Bananas on FA, Zach with Jordan),
Bananas won elimination rounds against CT/Adam, Mark/Robin, Jordan, Isaac, CT, but lost to Leroy/Nia and Leroy/Theresa
Zach won elimination rounds against CJ, Knight, Brandon, but lost to Ty/Leroy and Jordan/Sarah (I don't understand how Zach proved to be overrated in every elimination round tbh)
CT won elimination rounds against Evan/Nehemiah, Leroy, but lost to Bananas/Tyler and Bananas
Frank won elimination rounds against Derek/Jonna, Chet and Dustin
I feel like Zach ( or Bananas in many cases) are just being viewed as overrated, because they just can't stand him, because if you look at the numbers, Zach was top 2 performer since Rivals and even on BOTE2, he didn't perform bad (his attitude might be viewed as wrong), because he never came in last
I mean really who would people rather see in a elimination, Jay vs Preston or CT vs Zach? If you say jay vs Preston than you clearly don't value competition.
Jay vs Preston could be great for all we know. LaToya vs Jemmye is all the proof needed to show that players on or near the same level can provide highly entertaining eliminations. It's the shock factor. CT vs Zach would be predictable, just like Laurel vs Aneesa.
Jemmye and LaToya are not on or near the same level on FA, LaToya almost collapsed after the first challenge she did, her endurance definitely had major flaws on FA and honestly any other elimination round Jemmye would win in like 8 out of 10 times.
Laurel vs. Aneesa is not predictable as seen on FA, because Aneesa lost both rounds by just one,two seconds. And for all we know, Zach vs CT could be great too and even Jay vs. Preston would be predictable just as you think CT vs. Zach would, in 8 out of 10 elimination rounds, Jay would go in as a favorite, the only one times were Preston would go in as a favorite is if that elimination rounds would involve heights or puzzles, but both have said that they suck in puzzles. CT and Zach are on or near the same level and they both could win any elimination round and that elimination rounds would be pretty close. Puzzles--both are good in them no clear favorite, endurance---close match-up no clear favorite, physical---close match-up no clear favorite, mental---depends probably CT.
P.S: 99% of the viewer will prefer watching CT/Bananas/Wes/Leroy/Zach/Jordan against anybody than watching Preston vs. Cohutta/Jay go against each other, quite frankly most of us and certainly the viewer would just skip that elimination round it doesn't even matter which category that elimination round would have. Nobody on earth would want to pay to see Preston against Jay, but everybody would pay to see CT/Bananas/Leroy/Zach/Jordan/Wes/Darrell/Landon/Derrick/Abram/any guy that looks athletic or like Laurel/Emily/Evelyn/Rachel/Paula/Camilla/Nany/Theresa/Aneesa/Cara Maria in any constellation and all of them are almost at the same level depending on the elimination round and only physical ones would be predictable with Jordan/Wes/Emily/Rachel/ Laurel (who I think would lose against Emily/Rache in every single physical elimination round) in there, but the rest pretty equal and most elimination rounds aren't even physical ones.
Also, go look at MTV's The Challenge wikipedia page and look at the records. If one of the people who got a call goes on this challenge, one of those records will be broken (will actually break his/her own record).
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
Again, Zach won Hall Brawl in the end, by winning the tie-breaker with 2-1. CJ previous wins don't mean anything in the end as only the tie-breaker counted and that Zach won by 2-1 which automatically means that Zach had better endurance than CJ. Zach only really bad performance were that Hammer elimination and the finale, but again almost every single good player did terrible in a final, Bananas did terrible in the Rivals 2 finale, CT did terrible in the Exes 1 finale, Laurel did terrible in the Fresh Meat 2 finale (and Emily on Cutthroat), Sarah did terrible on Cutthroat, Wes did terrible in the Rivals 1 finale or almost everybody of the good people lost an elimination round or came close to losing it despite going in with a big advantage (even Darrell and Landon).
Please go on lol, Zach DQ in his other loss, doesn't mean he performed bad in that elimination round and Zach DQ in that Speed Dating challenge doesn't mean he performed bad in that either, I mean they still did 10 balls.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
Again, Zach won Hall Brawl in the end, by winning the tie-breaker with 2-1. CJ previous wins don't mean anything in the end as only the tie-breaker counted and that Zach won by 2-1 which automatically means that Zach had better endurance than CJ. Zach only really bad performance were that Hammer elimination and the finale, but again almost every single good player did terrible in a final, Bananas did terrible in the Rivals 2 finale, CT did terrible in the Exes 1 finale, Laurel did terrible in the Fresh Meat 2 finale (and Cutthroat), Wes did terrible in the Rivals 1 finale or in an elimination round.
Please go on lol, Zach DQ in his other loss, doesn't mean he performed bad in that elimination round and Zach DQ in that Speed Dating challenge doesn't mean he performed bad in that either, I mean they still did 10 balls.
i have a picture that shows that Sarah didn't really hae a head start against Jonna as any people think due to editing. Zach was honestly only one hammer strike behind Jordan.
And saying Zach is overrated based on EVERY elimination is one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
Again, Zach won Hall Brawl in the end, by winning the tie-breaker with 2-1. CJ previous wins don't mean anything in the end as only the tie-breaker counted and that Zach won by 2-1 which automatically means that Zach had better endurance than CJ. Zach only really bad performance were that Hammer elimination and the finale, but again almost every single good player did terrible in a final, Bananas did terrible in the Rivals 2 finale, CT did terrible in the Exes 1 finale, Laurel did terrible in the Fresh Meat 2 finale (and Cutthroat), Wes did terrible in the Rivals 1 finale or in an elimination round.
Please go on lol, Zach DQ in his other loss, doesn't mean he performed bad in that elimination round and Zach DQ in that Speed Dating challenge doesn't mean he performed bad in that either, I mean they still did 10 balls.
i have a picture that shows that Sarah didn't really hae a head start against Jonna as any people think due to editing. Zach was honestly only one hammer strike behind Jordan.
And saying Zach is overrated based on EVERY elimination is one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
Please show it, I want to see that. I just hope that everybody realises that the edit wanted to portray Zach as this huge villian this season (especially considering the Jonna/Jay/Jenna situation and the "Women are inferior" talk between Zach, Reily and Jordan), on FA he was portraited as a good guy who was there just to compete, eventhough he wasn't any different in his confessionals than on BOTS2,Rivals2,FA, BOTE2.
I don't even think CT/Zach would be that great of an elimination to watch. Zach is soooo overrated. He has proved that every elimination.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
Again, Zach won Hall Brawl in the end, by winning the tie-breaker with 2-1. CJ previous wins don't mean anything in the end as only the tie-breaker counted and that Zach won by 2-1 which automatically means that Zach had better endurance than CJ. Zach only really bad performance were that Hammer elimination and the finale, but again almost every single good player did terrible in a final, Bananas did terrible in the Rivals 2 finale, CT did terrible in the Exes 1 finale, Laurel did terrible in the Fresh Meat 2 finale (and Cutthroat), Wes did terrible in the Rivals 1 finale or in an elimination round.
Please go on lol, Zach DQ in his other loss, doesn't mean he performed bad in that elimination round and Zach DQ in that Speed Dating challenge doesn't mean he performed bad in that either, I mean they still did 10 balls.
i have a picture that shows that Sarah didn't really hae a head start against Jonna as any people think due to editing. Zach was honestly only one hammer strike behind Jordan.
And saying Zach is overrated based on EVERY elimination is one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
Please show it, I want to see that. I just hope that everybody realises that the edit wanted to portray Zach as this huge villian this season (especially considering the Jonna/Jay/Jenna situation and the "Women are inferior" talk between Zach, Reily and Jordan), on FA he was portraited as a good guy who was there just to compete, eventhough he wasn't any different in his confessionals than on BOTS2,Rivals2,FA, BOTE2.
i think its somehwere around the Zach and Jonna thread for BOTE2. its saved on one of ym work computers os ill get i by 12:15ish.
I wish they just leveled out the playing field. Either make it a "best of the best" or get average people on the same level. Free Agents was kind of boring because I didn't read the spoilers and I knew Laurel was going to win for the girls, and Bananas, Frank, CT, or Zach would win for guys. (Probably Frank if he didn't get sent home) Everyone wants to see 2 strong competitors go against each other but it's not likely if Emily is going into elimination odds are Laurel is safe or vice versa because they're good competitors. I like surprise match ups that are exciting like Nany/Theresa or Jess/Cara IMO Jess/Cara was the best elimination on FA
I wish they just leveled out the playing field. Either make it a "best of the best" or get average people on the same level. Free Agents was kind of boring because I didn't read the spoilers and I knew Laurel was going to win for the girls, and Bananas, Frank, CT, or Zach would win for guys. (Probably Frank if he didn't get sent home) Everyone wants to see 2 strong competitors go against each other but it's not likely if Emily is going into elimination odds are Laurel is safe or vice versa because they're good competitors. I like surprise match ups that are exciting like Nany/Theresa or Jess/Cara IMO Jess/Cara was the best elimination on FA
Jessica could have won or at least get close to winning if she didn't keep throwing the ball.
Jemmye and LaToya are not on or near the same level on FA, LaToya almost collapsed after the first challenge she did, her endurance definitely had major flaws on FA and honestly any other elimination round Jemmye would win in like 8 out of 10 times.
To be fare, LaToya did get her head slammed into a door or wall when Swift jumped on them, plus she was dehydrated...I wouldn't call her weak for that. I was just tell her to increase her water intake.
And I think Zach is a good competitor, not the greatest, def. overrated, but he is a chauvinistic *****, I'd put him in the same catagory as Kenny and Evan based on that aspect. No one should ever talk to a woman like that , or anyone for that matter.
I also don't think free agents was a weak competitive pool either for girls either
There were actually a lot of lucky scrnarios for Laurel. it just so happened that
cara broke her hand
nia had to go against cara
Camilla theresa had to knock each other out
basically anyone that was a threat to Laurel was taken care of by someone not laurel. All of laurels threats basically fed on each other
laurel did personally beat Theresa(puzzle and not balls in or final), nany(6 ninutes), and aneesa(1.5 steps between both rounds). She sweated in all 3 scenarios
cara without a broken hand could've gotten Oppenheimer with laurel
nia could've gotten balls in or anything with Laurel
cara, camila, theresa all could've and should've (at least 1 or 2 of them) showed up with Laurel in the final and that would've been scary.
^^^all ugly and very reasonable situations that never occurred
Laurel actually had an easy and unlikely final geared in favor of her since it was literally just her vs nany since Devyn is irrelevant. She had some luck involved here imo. Her only unfortunate situation here was getting aneesa in an elimination round but that was really the only time where she had to actually get her hands dirty
It would be.
Now I would pay to see Darrell vs Leroy. But I think something like Robb vs Adam would be just as good. Robb is huge and Adam held his own against Bananas.
Zach is super overrated. CJ kicked his *** in the Hall Brawl elimination winning 3-2. Zach had such a big advantage against Jordan in the Hammer elimination and lost. He was terrible in the Free Agents finale. I can go on lol
I actually think that Robb vs Zach would be good to see.
Jordan and Frank would be a good match-up too.
Dustin and Johnny(Portland) would be a solid bout too.
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Exes 2--Jay & Jenna haven't been sent in. Thomas & Hailey were only sent in when they were to give Johnny R an easy win. Again, those that finished last were
Rivals 2--Jordan & Marlon didn't get voted in the first 3 times
It simply isn't true. When there were team competitions rookies that were deemed weak went in or rookies that were on a team with a huge alliance (Brad/Dunar/Tyler/Tori/Paula/Melinda)
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Well, I honestly think Jay & Jenna were going to be voted in at some point, hadden't Jeymmey and Knight not been eliminated.
Also, they had AYTO people in the house, which took priorities over J/J and Thomas and Hailey.
Rivals 2 also depended much more on the opposite ***. Jordan had his appeal so, that's how he got his by for a bit.
PR, just wondering did cara maria, marie and cooke get first round calls?
No where near just as good IMO. It would be good but not close to Leroy vs Darrell.
Forget CT & Zach, use Leroy & Darrell instead, my point was two strong competitors in a elimination is much better than two scrubs.
I get your point and it's not always true. It can be boring as **** sometimes. Johnny/Camilla and Mark/Robin is a good example of this.
And like I said before it's especially not all that appealing when you hate both of the people in the elimination. Kinda like the Laruel/Theresa elimination last season.
Most times it is, there are a few exceptions like Latoya & Jemmye.
It also depends on the elimination round itself, if its a bad one than it doesn't matter whose in it. It could be Leroy vs Darrell and if it's I can then it sucks.
Zach's performance on Free Agents showed how much of an elite competitor he is. He messed up on the Final but he was the top male athlete.
And *** do u mean every elimination hes been in proved he is overrated? He MURDERED Brandon and fairly beat Leroy and Ty. And in that last match of Hall Brawl CJ learned he couldnt go low anymore so thats why he went aganist Zach head to head- and was pushed back like Wes was with Bg Easy.
I think Darrell vs Alton (not Alton 2.0) would be a better match as both of them are more agile than Leroy.
This would be good
In the end, Zach was the one that won the tie-breaker as soon as he figured out how CJ's strategy was as you could see, how he just jumped over him one time which means CJ's three wins don't mean a single
thing if you don't win
the whole thing for your team and Zach did it and CJ didn't, because he g***ed out in the end.
Just for some guys here, Zach has been top 4 challenger based on performance since Rivals. You might think he's overrated, but the numbers (which don't lie and is the most neutral thing) actually prove that he is one of the most consistent challengers: Bananas, CT, Zach and Frank, everybody else doesn't even come close
Rivals 1: Bananas won three daily challenges, eliminations: 1 win
CT won two daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations: 1 win: 1 loss
Exes 1: Bananas won three daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations 1 win
CT won two daily challenges
Seasons2: Zach won four daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations 2 wins
Frank won four daily challenges, came in last once, eliminations 1 win
Rivals 2: Zach won two daily challenges, came in last one time, eliminations 1 loss
Bananas/Frank won two daily challenges, CT won three daily challenges
FA: Zach won four daily challenges, eliminations 1 win
Bananas won four daily challenges, eliminations 3 wins
CT won four daily challenges, eliminations 1 win, 1 loss
Frank won no daily challenge, eliminations 2 win
Exes2: Bananas won one daily challenge, eliminations 2 losses (Battle of the Ex-iled are no elimination rounds on BOTE since per definition it's the dome), winning the Battle of the Ex-iled competition
Zach won one daily challenge, elimination 1 loss, lost the Battle of the Ex-iled
Summary: Bananas won 13 daily challenges ( out of 42 daily challenges), winning precentage 30.95 % came in last once, eliminiations: 5:2, winning Battle of the Ex-iled, 3 finals won, 1 finals loss (his fault)
Zach won 11 daily challenges (out of 34 daily challenges), winning precentage 32.35 %, came in last once, eliminations: 3:2 (I think only one was his fault, with Jonna, IMO even if Zach would've won against Jordan, Sarah would've won against Jonna pretty easy and would take the lead there), losing Battle of the Ex-iled, 1 finals won, 1 finals loss (his fault)
CT won 11 daily challenges (out of 37 daily challenges), winning precentage 29.73 %, came in last once, eliminations: 2:2, 1 final win, 1 final loss (his fault)
Frank won 6 daily challenges (out of 22 daily challenges), winning precentage 27.27 %, came in last once, eliminations 3:0, 1 final win, 1 final loss (not his fault)
Tell me, how is Zach overrated, based on those numbers? CT/Bananas/Zach all three had a pretty shit performance in a final (Exes, Rivals2 and FA), everybody lost two elimination rounds and everybody lost one elimination round were they were favorites to win (Bananas with Leroy since he's the bigger/stronger guy, CT with Bananas on FA, Zach with Jordan),
Bananas won elimination rounds against CT/Adam, Mark/Robin, Jordan, Isaac, CT, but lost to Leroy/Nia and Leroy/Theresa
Zach won elimination rounds against CJ, Knight, Brandon, but lost to Ty/Leroy and Jordan/Sarah (I don't understand how Zach proved to be overrated in every elimination round tbh)
CT won elimination rounds against Evan/Nehemiah, Leroy, but lost to Bananas/Tyler and Bananas
Frank won elimination rounds against Derek/Jonna, Chet and Dustin
I feel like Zach ( or Bananas in many cases) are just being viewed
as overrated, because they just can't stand him, because if you look at the numbers, Zach was top 2 performer since Rivals and even on BOTE2, he didn't perform bad (his attitude might be viewed as wrong), because he never came in last
Jemmye and LaToya are not on or near the same level on FA, LaToya almost collapsed after the first challenge she did, her endurance definitely had major flaws on FA and honestly any other elimination round Jemmye would win in like 8 out of 10 times.
Laurel vs. Aneesa is not predictable as seen on FA, because Aneesa lost both rounds by just one,two seconds. And for all we know, Zach vs CT could be great too and even Jay vs. Preston would be predictable just as you think CT vs. Zach would, in 8 out of 10 elimination rounds, Jay would go in as a favorite, the only one times were Preston would go in as a favorite is if that elimination rounds would involve heights or puzzles, but both have said that they suck in puzzles. CT and Zach are on or near the same level and they both could win any elimination round and that elimination rounds would be pretty close. Puzzles--both are good in them no clear favorite, endurance---close match-up no clear favorite, physical---close match-up no clear favorite, mental---depends probably CT.
P.S: 99% of the viewer will prefer watching CT/Bananas/Wes/Leroy/Zach/Jordan against anybody than watching Preston vs. Cohutta/Jay go against each other, quite frankly most of us and certainly the viewer would just skip that elimination round it doesn't even matter which category that elimination round would have. Nobody on earth would want to pay to see Preston against Jay, but everybody would pay to see CT/Bananas/Leroy/Zach/Jordan/Wes/Darrell/Landon/Derrick/Abram/any guy that looks athletic or like Laurel/Emily/Evelyn/Rachel/Paula/Camilla/Nany/Theresa/Aneesa/Cara Maria in any constellation and all of them are almost at the same level depending on the elimination round and only physical ones would be predictable with Jordan/Wes/Emily/Rachel/ Laurel (who I think would lose against Emily/Rache in every single physical elimination round) in there, but the rest pretty equal and most elimination rounds aren't even physical ones.
I know 2 of the 3 mentioned got calls
Cara and cooke right ?
Great news, thanks !
Also, go look at MTV's The Challenge wikipedia page and look at the records. If one of the people who got a call goes on this challenge, one of those records will be broken (will actually break his/her own record).
Again, Zach won Hall Brawl in the end, by winning the tie-breaker with 2-1. CJ previous wins don't mean anything in the end as only the tie-breaker counted and that Zach won by 2-1 which automatically means that Zach had better endurance than CJ. Zach only really bad performance were that Hammer elimination and the finale, but again almost every single good player did terrible in a final, Bananas did terrible in the Rivals 2 finale, CT did terrible in the Exes 1 finale, Laurel did terrible in the Fresh Meat 2 finale (and Emily on Cutthroat), Sarah did terrible on Cutthroat, Wes did terrible in the Rivals 1 finale or almost everybody of the good people lost an elimination round or came close to losing it despite going in with a big advantage (even Darrell and Landon).
Please go on lol, Zach DQ in his other loss, doesn't mean he performed bad in that elimination round and Zach DQ in that Speed Dating challenge doesn't mean he performed bad in that either, I mean they still did 10 balls.
i have a picture that shows that Sarah didn't really hae a head start against Jonna as any people think due to editing. Zach was honestly only one hammer strike behind Jordan.
And saying Zach is overrated based on EVERY elimination is one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
Please show it, I want to see that.
I just hope that everybody realises that the edit wanted to portray Zach as this huge villian this season (especially considering the Jonna/Jay/Jenna situation and the "Women are inferior" talk between Zach, Reily and Jordan), on FA he was portraited as a good guy who was there just to compete, eventhough he wasn't any different in his confessionals than on BOTS2,Rivals2,FA, BOTE2.
i think its somehwere around the Zach and Jonna thread for BOTE2. its saved on one of ym work computers os ill get i by 12:15ish.
I wish they just leveled out the playing field. Either make it a "best of the best" or get average people on the same level. Free Agents was kind of boring because I didn't read the spoilers and I knew Laurel was going to win for the girls, and Bananas, Frank, CT, or Zach would win for guys. (Probably Frank if he didn't get sent home) Everyone wants to see 2 strong competitors go against each other but it's not likely if Emily is going into elimination odds are Laurel is safe or vice versa because they're good competitors. I like surprise match ups that are exciting like Nany/Theresa or Jess/Cara IMO Jess/Cara was the best elimination on FA
Jessica could have won or at least get close to winning if she didn't keep throwing the ball.
To be fare, LaToya did get her head slammed into a door or wall when Swift jumped on them, plus she was dehydrated...I wouldn't call her weak for that. I was just tell her to increase her water intake.
And I think Zach is a good competitor, not the greatest, def. overrated, but he is a chauvinistic *****, I'd put him in the same catagory as Kenny and Evan based on that aspect. No one should ever talk to a woman like that , or anyone for that matter.
I also don't think free agents was a weak competitive pool either for girls either
There were actually a lot of lucky scrnarios for Laurel. it just so happened that
cara broke her hand
nia had to go against cara
Camilla theresa had to knock each other out
basically anyone that was a threat to Laurel was taken care of by someone not laurel. All of laurels threats basically fed on each other
laurel did personally beat Theresa(puzzle and not balls in or final), nany(6 ninutes), and aneesa(1.5 steps between both rounds). She sweated in all 3 scenarios
cara without a broken hand could've gotten Oppenheimer with laurel
nia could've gotten balls in or anything with Laurel
cara, camila, theresa all could've and should've (at least 1 or 2 of them) showed up with Laurel in the final and that would've been scary.
^^^all ugly and very reasonable situations that never occurred
Laurel actually had an easy and unlikely final geared in favor of her since it was literally just her vs nany since Devyn is irrelevant. She had some luck involved here imo. Her only unfortunate situation here was getting aneesa in an elimination round but that was really the only time where she had to actually get her hands dirty
I don't trip off how Zach acts or talks if you wanna make yourself look like an ******* go ahead
A good idea they should have done on Exes 2 is have the exes do interviews together like on Ex-Plosion and Skeletons
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